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we here at cnn even got a moment in the lime green light. >> quote. brett, you're just that girl who is a little messy and likes to party and maybe says some dumb things sometimes. end quote. >> oh, god. >> yeah. >> 360 that is, of course, charli xcx reacting to our very own jake tapper and jamie gangel, who explains to people like me and others out there exactly what brat meant when we were all talking about that. the pop star also took home the first of three grammys of her career last night. thank you. did you guys know what brat was before this summer? >> no. >> i still don't. >> i still don't. >> okay. and the washington talk. they're going to win. >> the election. >> for. >> brat. yeah. no. >> i think you're brat. >> thank you, kendrick lamar. >> jamie gangel. taylor swift. it's all the same.
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>> wow. okay. >> i don't know. well. >> we'll leave it there. jamie, we love you. thanks to our panel. thanks to all of you for joining us, i'm kasie hunt. don't go anywhere. cnn news central starts right now. >> breaking overnight. >> brace yourself for economic chaos. u.s. stock futures are down after president trump launches. >> what the. >> wall street journal. >> just called. the dumbest trade. >> war in history. what prices. >> analysts say will go up first. >> also this morning, investigators are now examining the data recorder from the black hawk helicopter involved in last week's deadly collision in washington. and this morning, crews are set to begin removing wreckage from the crash site. and a major night for the one and only beyonce. bringing home more than one grammy for her groundbreaking album, cowboy carter. i'm kate bolduan with john berman. sara is out today. this is cnn news central.
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>> and breaking. >> this morning. stocks are down. >> oil prices. >> are up. >> economic anxiety is just about everywhere. after president trump launched a trade war on. >> u.s. allies. >> with the wall street journal called. >> the dulles. >> trade war in history. a moniker the president. >> clearly does not like. >> so he signed executive orders imposing 25% tariffs on goods. >> from. >> canada and mexico, an additional 10% tariff. >> on chinese imports. >> they all go into effect at midnight tonight. this means you. >> could soon pay. more for. >> groceries. >> gas. >> new. >> cars, cell phones, avocados. >> president trump says. >> it will. all be worth. >> the price. he says it. >> will be. >> worth. >> the price that must. be paid. this morning, he is scheduled to speak with the leaders of canada and mexico i don't expect
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anything very dramatic. >> we put tariffs on. they owe us a lot of money and i'm sure they're going to pay. we may have short term some little pain, and people understand that. but long term the united states has been ripped off by virtually every country in the world. >> by the way, that's not how tariffs work. they don't pay them. >> they're paid. >> here in the united states. let's get right to cnn senior white house reporter kevin liptak for the latest on this. and the clock is ticking to the deadline. kevin. >> yeah. >> and it's quite. >> a striking. >> acknowledgment from. >> the president. >> there that. >> americans could feel some discomfort. >> from these tariffs. >> essentially, he's saying that in. >> order to fulfill. >> his campaign promises on tamping. >> down on. >> illicit drugs and migrants coming. >> across the border. >> another one of his campaign promises, probably his top campaign promise, which was to lower prices for americans, will just have to wait. and that's exactly what economists say might happen. and it's not only for big purchases like cars.
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this could affect small purchases as well. things directly from chinese manufacturers, from companies like shein and temu. these could really have an effect on americans pocketbooks. and the president says that the tariff regime might not end here. listen to what he said last night when he was asked whether additional tariffs could be coming for the united kingdom and the european union. >> well, we're going to see what happens. it'll happen. but we're going to my we'll see how things work out. it might happen with them, but it will definitely happen with the european union. i can tell you that, because they've really taken advantage of us, and uk is out of line, but i'm sure that one, i think that one can be worked out. but the european union is it's an atrocity. >> now. by and large, trump has enjoyed the support from republicans on that. those who are opposed have mostly remained silent. one of the objections to
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that is senator rand paul from kentucky. he wrote on social media that tariffs are simply taxes. he said that this could mean less trade and higher prices. now he represents a state that could be directly affected by the reciprocal tariffs from canada. they have gone after american liquor. now mexico says that they will announce their own reprisals today. china says that they will file a complaint with the world trade organization. one of the big questions in all of this is what canada and mexico can actually do to have trump ease up on these tariffs. it has never been explicitly clear what precise metrics he's using to to curb the flow of migrants and fentanyl across the border. over the weekend, justin trudeau says that he had been trying to reach trump on the telephone since the inauguration, but his calls hadn't been picked up. of course, that will end today. but as you heard trump say, there any hopes for a last minute reprieve seem far fetched at this point.
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>> and again, it is already having an impact with stock futures down, oil prices up the opposite of what most economists and i think most americans hope for on a day to day basis. kevin liptak, thank you very much for that. >> and prime minister justin trudeau right behind you, because canada is responding and responding quickly with their own, with tariffs of their own. the government announcing a full list of goods imported from the united states that would be taxed. and the list is long. everything from meats and cheese to appliances like fridges and stoves. the list will continue to go. furniture, beauty products. fruits. vegetables. spices. sugar. chocolate. the alcohol that was the aforementioned alcohol that we were just hearing from kevin liptak. cnn's paula newton is tracking all of this for us. and what canada is saying about this all this morning. good morning paula. >> good morning to you kate. you know, i think canadians have almost surprised themselves with the reaction here, kate. it has
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been so visceral, so emotional. words like betrayal being thrown around as if the united states had asked for a divorce. and the reason they're not being alarmist, either, kate. the reason is what kevin just said. they do not understand what the united states wants. now, they could have irritants in the trading relationship for sure. get to the table. the prime minister's office is saying, and we will negotiate. but this this seems different. and remember, this was preceded by joking or not. all those, you know, musings by the president that canada should become the 51st state. i want you to listen now to just some of the reaction. >> i don't think there's a lot of americans who wake up in the morning saying, oh,, canada. >> my conversations. >> with howard lutnick and others in the administration tell me that perhaps in march there's a window again. but most of this is so unpredictable. >> i mean, the president has decided now to make gas in the united states more expensive.
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he's decided to make groceries in the united states more expensive. and our retaliation is going to cost americans jobs that it's completely ridiculous. >> i think that's what's been so unnerving is the fact that this will, in fact, hurt american consumers as well. now, look, kate, no one's saying that canada would win a trade war with the united states. all canada is saying is we don't want a war at all. but again, this has turned into a cancel. america and anti-americanism that i have never seen. i want you to listen now here quickly to just one of the chorus of boos that we heard at at least one nba game, nhl games over the last 24 hours. i mean, kate, i've been to games and hockey games. we actually know the words to the u.s. anthem. we at least applaud politely afterwards. this has taken on a whole new tone in canada and canada, and i want to get back to that issue of alcohol. so
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although even the alcohol is being taxed by 25%, duty tariff coming in to canada, 25% provinces on their own are taking u.s. wine, beer and alcohol off the shelves, saying we just don't want to sell it anymore. >> the reaction has, yeah, that reaction even before the tariffs set in in some of those provinces being very swift, very real and very i mean, they're angry about it. no one wins in a trade war. that's one thing we can all be sure of. and we're going to start seeing it very soon. it's great to see you, paula. thank you very much for your reporting on that. so coming up for us new this morning, workers at the main office of usaid unexpectedly told to stay home today. this is as elon musk calls the aid agency a ball of worms. and president trump considers shutting it all down. the ntsb now has the black box from the helicopter that collided mid-air with the american eagle passenger jet over the potomac river, and the recovery
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before the crash. early ntsb reports suggest the pilot of the american eagle flight made an attempt to lift the nose of the plane just seconds before impact, which raises questions about if they did or did not see the black hawk helicopter in the path. let's get right to cnn's gabe cohen at reagan national airport for the latest. gabe, what are you learning this morning? well. >> john, you mentioned a. >> piece of it there. >> what we. really saw over. >> the weekend were investigators. starting to put pieces. of this puzzle together. you mentioned that early. data from the flight recorders that are on the plane, indicating. >> that the plane may. >> have been pitching upward in those final seconds, perhaps indicating that the pilots. saw the black hawk tried to avert a disaster, but it was just too late. we have also learned from investigators that those flight recorders on the plane indicate that the jet was flying at an altitude of around 325ft. now that's early information. investigators still looking at the black box on the. >> black hawk.
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>> but that height is significant because helicopters along this route on the potomac really aren't supposed to be flying above 200ft. so if they were at 300 plus, investigators are going to want to know why. take a listen to transportation secretary sean duffy talking about some of these unanswered questions. >> i'll tell you this. >> the questions i have is, you know, what was. >> happening inside the tower. >> were they understaffed? and the position of the black hawk, the elevation of the black hawk were the pilots of the black hawk wearing night vision goggles. did it affect their peripheral vision or their perception? >> and, john, we've also learned that 55 of the victims have been recovered and identified by dive crews from the potomac river. that means 12 are still missing in the water. and so i have been told that in the next hour or so, a salvage operation is going to get underway. crews have gathered at the scene, heavy
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equipment, a crane and barge, and they are going to start the process of lifting the wreckage, the plane out of the water, hoping that it is going to help them reach those 12 missing people. yeah, it is difficult work. it is emotional work for all the people involved. gabe cohen at reagan national airport this morning. gabe, thank you very much. keep us posted on what else you learn. all right. time to dig in. new york's top fbi official vows to fight after the trump administration questions agents about their involvement in investigating the january 6th riots. in a matchup preparing for takeoff and seeing flames and smoke coming from the wing of the plane. >> ontario, canada your. >> third largest trading partner and number one export destination for 17 states. our economic partnership keeps millions of americans working. we're here right by your side. >> speak now or forever hold your.
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attack on the capitol. cnn's security correspondent, former fbi agent josh campbell, has much more on this one for us. and so, josh, what are you hearing about this survey and also what this could mean for people at the fbi? >> yeah, kate, it is. >> certainly a five alarm. fire inside. >> the fbi right now. >> and that's because we. >> are in. >> an unprecedented. >> time. >> that we've never. >> seen, and that is career. >> fbi agents. >> analysts, professional staff members. >> now potentially being targeted for firing. of course, this isn't just theoretical because it comes after the justice department has already cleared out the seventh floor. the top floor leadership of the fbi telling those senior agents to either resign, retire or be fired. and now, word coming that this could also impact potentially thousands of fbi employees who worked on the january 6th riot investigation, as you mentioned, you know, the the fbi has sent out the survey to employees essentially trying to gather information about their role in that
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investigation. this is all coming from the justice department and the fbi agents association is telling people, do not leave. i'll read you part of a statement that they sent out to their members saying, do not resign or offer to resign. while we would never advocate for physical noncompliance, you need to be clear your removal is not voluntary. they later went on to say employees carrying out their duties to investigate allegations of criminal activity with integrity and within the rule of law should never be treated as those who have engaged in actual misconduct. of course, we know that the fbi itself has been the target of donald trump and his allies again. but what is so unusual here is that we've never seen career agents, employees actually being potentially targeted for firing. now, in the survey that you mentioned that was sent out to employees, they were supposed to list information and then provide a narrative on what their specific role was. but the fbi agents association, in another message, went on to advise members that they should actually write in the form, quote, to the best of
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my ability and belief, i have performed my duties in accordance with investigative guidelines, federal statutes, and the constitution of the united states and the matters i worked on were properly predicated, were opened and investigated at the direction of the department of justice. and that's what's so important here. regardless of what people think of that january 6th investigation, this was done, you know, using the federal courts. and, you know, obviously outside independent courts and juries, in order to try to go after those cases, but really an unprecedented time. and then finally, i'll mention that all of this seems to fly in the face of what kash patel, who was the nominee to become the new fbi director, actually testified about in congress? he was asked whether there would be any type of retribution against fbi employees. here's what he said. >> every fbi employee will be held to the absolute same standard, and no one will be terminated for case assignment. all fbi employees will be protected against political. >> they deserve so i've talked to a lot of fbi employees who are wondering at this hour, you
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know what's happening here. >> is this an attempted clearing out of fbi employees before potentially patel potentially takes office? or is this something that, you know, he might know about a lot of questions at this hour? a lot of consternation inside the bureau, kate. >> i would say a lot of questions and a lot of concern, especially given all of this. josh, thank you so much. looks like we could be looking at some new developments even today on this one. we're also keeping a close eye this morning on market futures currently pointing lower after president trump launches a trade war with canada, mexico and china altogether. and we're also learning new information about the victims of a deadly medical jet crash. the plane going down in the middle of a philadelphia neighborhood. we'll be right back. >> are mornings cough congestion. >> i'm feeling better all in one and. done with mucinex. >> kickstart. >> headaches. >> better now. >> mucinex kickstart gives all in one and done relief with a morning jolt of instant cooling
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>> 600 point drop for the dow. 1.7% for nasdaq futures. look this is what the beginning of a trade war looks like. there's chaos. there's confusion. markets are down. business groups and trade experts are warning that this is going to cause higher prices for consumers. so president trump is just hours away from putting tariffs on more than 40% of all u.s. imports. and we've seen a number of business groups come out and criticize this move. the footwear industry is saying that there's going to be higher prices for sneakers and shoes for consumers. the oil industry wants to have lower tariffs on canadian energy. plastic industry says that jobs are going to be hurt, and manufacturing farmers are already saying that they're going to be hurt by retaliation, and they already want federal aid. we have the alcohol industry saying this is going to be bad for all of north america. and the housing industry is saying there's going to be higher home prices because they know that 70% of all imports
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into the u.s. of key manufacturing of key building materials come from mexico and canada in particular. we're talking about softwood lumber and gypsum. this is all coming from mexico and canada. and it's going to get more expensive. so this is the situation that could cause the housing affordability crisis to get worse, especially when you think about the fact that we could see the fed have to pause even longer on interest rate cuts, which means perhaps higher mortgage rates. now we know that the president likes to use tariffs. he loves tariffs, right. he sees them as a way to get leverage. he's trying to address these concerns around immigration and illegal drugs. but there's a lot of business groups and trade experts and economists who are saying that this could do more harm than good. the chamber of commerce, which is pretty supportive of the trump agenda. they put out a pretty pointed statement saying that all of this is unprecedented. it's not going to solve those problems that trump is worried about, and it's only going to raise prices for american families and upend supply chains. john, i know that
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a lot of this kind of feels like groundhog day, right? because we saw this during trump 1.0. but it's really important to remember that what trump is doing here is much bigger in size and scope. right. we're talking about tariffs on all three of america's biggest trading partners. mary lovely she's a trade researcher. she told me that this may be the biggest own goal yet. she said it's a recipe for slowing down the economy and increasing inflation. so john look there's just so much at stake here. this is just a huge gamble. >> look, insofar as donald trump, the president, has addressed inflation at all, it has been saying he's trying to lower energy prices, lower oil prices. what did they do today? >> well, look, we're bracing for higher prices because we get a lot of oil from canada. and so what's happened is the u.s. is putting a 25% tariff on most imports from canada, but a 10% tariff on energy in particular. and that is an acknowledgment that there's a risk that this could cause higher prices, because canada is the number one
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source of foreign oil into the u.s. every day we're getting 4 million barrels of crude from canada, right. that's four times as much from opec. and gasbuddy is warning that we could see noticeably higher gas prices, particularly in the midwest, in the rockies, in the great lakes region, we see 5 to $0.20 per gallon increase. and look, john, if there's anything we learn from the last few years, it's that americans do not like higher gas prices. >> all right. matt egan, thank you very much for that. with us now, cnn political commentator scott jennings, former senior adviser to senator mitch mcconnell, and karen finney, former senior adviser to hillary clinton's 2016 campaign. scott jennings, favorite son of kentucky kentucky has largely spoken overnight on what it thinks about these tariffs. i want you to listen to the senior senator from kentucky. your former boss, mitch mcconnell. >> it will drive the cost of everything up. in other words, it'll be paid for by american
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consumers. i mean, why would you want to get in a fight with your allies over this? >> and, scott, your junior senator rand paul, said tariffs are simply taxes. conservatives wants united against new taxes. taxing trade will mean less trade and higher prices. and i'll just add one more to this. scott jennings, the wall street journal, which has a lovely profile of you in it this morning. they called this the dumbest trade war in history. so what's your reaction to all this? >> well, first of all. >> i agree. >> the profile was amazing. >> number two. >> this is not without risks. i mean, look, there are risks in engaging in this kind of massive policy upheaval. and and, you know, change in our, you know, economic flow with canada and mexico. however, let me try to offer some explanations for why trump might be on to something. again, not without risk, but he might be on to something. number one, the name of the game here is behavior modification. he
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wants canada and mexico to help stem the flow of drugs and people across the border. that's number one. he doesn't think they're doing enough. he's using these tariffs as a tool to say, look, i'm not fooling around. we mean business. until you help me, i'm going to inflict some pain upon you. the american economy is bigger than yours. you depend on us more than we depend on you. therefore, please modify your behavior. number two, the other goal here would be to renew some interest in american manufacturing. don't want to pay tariffs on imported goods? make it here. buy it here. that would take a long time to manifest itself in the economy. but there is some viewpoint that the more we have more manufacturing in the united states, the less dependent we are on cheaper goods from other countries like this. so those would be the arguments for it. i would also just argue, john, this morning, that democrats who are crying foul about the possibility of raising prices for american consumers are simultaneously arguing to let the trump tax cuts expire, which would, i guess, be a tax increase on everybody who pays taxes. so i think the hewing and crying from
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the democrats today is a little hollow when they're trying to raise income taxes, but fussing about these tariffs. >> karen, where do you see this fitting in in the battle against inflation. well. >> first of all, not quite. >> scott, what democrats. >> are saying. is we don't need more tax. cuts for billionaires. and particularly we shouldn't be paying for that on the backs of working and middle class americans. where we see this is i mean, look, president trump finally acknowledged something that we were saying all throughout the campaign, which is there's going to be some pain. well, guess what, he didn't run on. there's pain to come. that was not his message. and at a time when we've just seen the fed is not going to cut rates, inflation is already you know, it's come down quite a bit thanks to biden-harris policies. we're about 2.9%, but we're not going to get that down further with these tariffs, which are new taxes on the american people. and there's another
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impact that's starting to happen. you're seeing countries and others sort of galvanize outside the country against america. so think about the people who are creating goods that they sell on etsy. well, you've got people who are saying, you know what, i just can't buy that from you because i'm not buying american. we're seeing those that kind of organization happening in canada and other countries, and we're also seeing other countries say, well, hey, if america is going to punish us, let's just get together and do things on our own. so it is a very big gamble that is most likely going to increase inflation. and it's another increase in cost for the american people. let's remember the first week trump was in office. he withdrew what president biden had done by decreasing the cost of prescription drugs like insulin. if you were paying $35 for your insulin, you're now going to pay more because of donald trump. so this is breaking faith with the promises that he made to lower costs and saying, y'all are just going to have to wait because i'm going to do my
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revenge agenda first. >> scott, what do you think the chances are that president trump just declares victory in the next 24 hours? so these tariffs don't go have to go into effect. i mean, canada, for its part, says we don't really even know what you're asking. united states here. so president trump has some leeway to say, ah, they did what we wanted. >> sure. and i'm sure conversations are going on with both countries about what it would look like to secure their borders and to stop the flow of people and drugs across the border. and if donald trump could tell us that that was happening, i think that would be a great outcome. regarding other countries and regarding our position vis a vis other countries. karen, i want to directly address that. you have to give trump a little credit. so far, he has had some success with this behavior modification strategy. so far. it worked on colombia. and if you look at the news reports from the weekend, it might be working on panama as they have started to move away from china a little bit over this issue of who actually controls the panama canal. so one of the larger macro issues
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here to me is, is donald trump on a mission to show dominance in the hemisphere, dominance in the region, and to try to get other people to bend to our will? colombia and panama, i believe, have if mexico and canada bend on helping us stop the flow of people and drugs, that would be another victory. and john, yes, if the tariffs went away, everyone would be happy. we'd have less immigration, less drugs and lower prices. and that would be a great day for everybody. >> i will say, and we're going to get into this much more over the course of the show. usaid has always been one area where the u.s. has tried to exert influence on other countries overseas. there's an email that those employees got this morning saying, don't come to work today. elon musk has outright said he wants to get rid of usaid. karen, how do you think that fits into scott's goal of spreading influence, u.s. influence around the world? >> actually, it harms our ability. i mean, a big an important part of sort of what we've called for a long time, a three legged stool, right, is diplomacy, defense. and then the work that we've done through
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usaid and other efforts to increase, not only not only our influence in other countries, obviously, it helps us address things like outbreaks of different pandemics or, you know, things that can spread throughout the globe. but it also has been an important part of building our diplomatic and defense efforts in other countries. i've seen that work myself up front and close and in person over the last 20 years in a number of countries, so i think it actually makes us less safe. great example. in in the continent of africa, we used to be dominant. it's actually now china that is more is has gaining dominance. and that again, that means that's a whole region where they have dominance. we have lost ground. and that makes us less safe because we know there are plenty of areas where there are havens for terrorists. so it concerns me greatly to just take a hatchet to everything rather than to say, let's look at this
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mindfully. but, you know, sort of piece by piece and see what makes sense to make sure we're not losing the expertise, like in something like the ntsb, for example, i think this hatchet approach, particularly from somebody like elon musk, who actually also has government contracts that will be impacted by some of the work he's doing. >> karen finney, scott jennings, great to see you both this morning. thank you very much, kate. >> this morning we are learning more about the victims killed in a medevac jet crash in philadelphia this weekend. the crash, which was caught on camera, killed all six people who were on board, as well as a person who was on the ground. dozens were injured and sent to nearby hospitals. five people remain hospitalized as of this morning. cnn's danny freeman is live in philadelphia with much more on this for us. and, danny, what are you learning about the victims who were in that plane and also where things stand with this investigation? now? >> well, kate, as of yesterday.
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>> we now know the names of all six people who were on board that flight that came crashing down in the street behind me in philadelphia back on friday evening. you mentioned valentina, also her mother, lizbeth. those were the that was the little girl and her mother, who were being medevaced from philadelphia on that flight. we also learned the captain was captain alan montoya perales. he was 46 years old. he'd been with the company since 2016. his copilot, josue de jesus juarez he was 43 years old. he'd been with the company since 2023. kate. and then there was a doctor. doctor raul meza arredondo and a paramedic. rodrigo lopez padill all on that plane. i spoke with the company jet rescue air ambulance yesterday. they said all of the people on that board, on board that flight were very seasoned. they continue to extend their condolences to all six members, family members of the people who were on that flight. meanwhile, kate, to your point, we are learning a lot more actually about the investigation. there was progress made yesterday evening in terms of what ntsb investigators are ultimately
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looking for. they discovered one of the black boxes that was on that plane, the cockpit voice recorder. they've been looking for it all throughout the weekend in this large debris field here in northeast philadelphia. they ended up finding it eight feet deep in the crater that the plane left on cottman avenue behind me. so just incredible that they do have it. it's been sent to the ntsb lab for further analysis. the impact, though, kate, here incredibly, incredibly wide. many people injured, 22 in total. five, as you noted, still in the hospital. and that includes little andre howard. take a listen to how his family's processing right now. >> my son, who was also the same name as me, andre howard, tells his little sister. get down. and he grabs her. i hear the glass shatter. i turn around, there's a piece of metal sticking out of my son's head. >> there's a mother. >> what am i supposed to do? >> but he's good. he's pushing through.
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>> just incredible. truly hoping little andre makes a full recovery. now, kate, you noted the top seven people were ultimately killed in this crash. six on board that plane. and then one person the city confirmed was in their car when that plane came down. officials desperately hoping that number stays as it is. but they have noted they may not know the full picture just yet. they're asking anyone in the area if you fear someone you love might be missing and hasn't checked in, who might have been out there on the street last friday night, please call 911. they're trying to make sure they know and account for everyone who might have been in the area that evening, kate. >> all right, danny, thank you very much for bringing us that. and in wake of these two devastating plane crashes, we've been talking about the transportation secretary, sean duffy, was speaking to cnn and said that big changes are coming for the faa. listen to this. >> we're going to surge air traffic controllers. we're going to bring in the best and the brightest. that was the
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direction from president trump. our air traffic control system. it's antiquated. a lot of the systems we use date back to world war ii. we have to upgrade the system. we have to have the best system in the world. >> what does that mean and what does that require? joining us right now is a former air traffic controller, steve abraham. he ran the control tower at new york's jfk airport. steve, thank you so much for your time. secretary duffy's statement there. he's talking about he said, we are going to surge air traffic controllers. how quickly can they do that? >> i think. >> you know, all the administrations for the past 20 something years have been trying to hire enough air traffic controllers. the system now has about 10,800 controllers, and they're supposed to be 14,000. and the challenges that they face are basically about 2% of people who apply for the job end up getting hired. and then the training time for a controller from the completion of their pre training in oklahoma city to
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when they're able to work on their own in a complex facility, can run between 36 and 48 months. >> which lays out what the challenge. let's be honest, the reality and what the challenge has been for years. my colleague pete muntean has been reporting on the on the shortage of air traffic controllers for a very long time. this is not a new problem, but what has the shortage that has existed for so long? what has that meant for air traffic controllers? >> i think, you know, after you work multiple years of six day workweeks and 50 and 60 hour and six day work weeks and 50 and 60 hour work weeks under incredibly complex, challenging conditions, you get fatigued, um, and the controller workforce is a dedicated group of individuals who will come to work every day and do what they can to make the
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system function, and it obviously functions well given the safety record. but eventually fatigue overwhelms the system. and you're you've been faced recently with retirements and numbers that continue to decrease as opposed to increase. >> and to be clear, the ntsb has not put fault or has pointed to any one factor at all yet that that led to, contributed to, or brought about that midair collision. the ntsb has been very careful to say that they are far from putting out any of their preliminary findings in this, but as this investigation continues, steve, one air traffic and air traffic control source has told cnn that at the time of the collision, one air traffic controller was working two different tower positions, though they also noted that that is not an uncommon setup, so it is not uncommon. but from your perspective, is it a problem?
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>> well, i guess i would say if the agency designed the system to have multiple people performing separate job functions and they're combined to one person, you're have the potential to overwhelm somebody. i will say controllers are very, very aware of the line of when they become overwhelmed or reach the point where they have too much traffic and they have the ability to turn off the valve to stop accepting airplanes, because we all know that safety is the paramount rule and nothing efficiency will never trump that. you know, the reality is, you know, all those folks at dca and actually everybody in the system right now, they could have done and it may show that they did their job perfectly, but they're still affected by this. even someone
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who wasn't even involved in the incident. well, is critically affected by this error. and this accident. it's a tragedy. >> an absolute tragedy. the ntsb todd inman has done an amazing job trying to convey the where they are with their investigation as they continue it. and they were he was talking on saturday about some of the altitude readings that they've been able to get. i would like your take on it because everyone involved from from the outside looking in, agreed that it's confusing. and he said it's initial and not yet verified, but initial data show that the passenger jet was flying at around 325ft, give or take 25ft, at the time of impact. and then the ntsb also said the data available to the air traffic controller showed the helicopter was at 200ft near the time of the accident. clearly a discrepancy there because the two aircraft collided. what could explain that? does this point to a potential problem
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with technology available? what are you hearing that? >> so i think the technological discrepancy is something that the ntsb will have to delve into and as mr. inman said, it's only preliminary information. um, there are multiple sourcing points for all that data. there's the tower radar display, there's the black boxes available in the aircraft, and you really need to correlate the data between the three different points to end up to what the truth is. uh, you know, multiple people have talked about the voice recordings that have been made available, uh, publicly. and those voice recordings aren't the certified recordings. so there is potential to miss syllables or words, and you really have to wait till you have all the verified information available from the true sources before you can make any truthful determination. and, you know, the ntsb goal is to prevent this
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sunday's game. meanwhile, the nba trade deadline isn't until thursday, but fans are reeling from what is being called arguably one of the biggest trades in league history. late on saturday night, the news broke that the mavericks were trading superstar luka doncic to the lakers in a three team deal that also sent anthony davis to dallas. doncic arrived in los angeles on a private jet last night. the five time all star, one of the most impactful players in the league, but he's been sidelined since suffering that calf injury on christmas day, and the 25 year old released his first statement across his social media accounts, saying, quote, seven years ago i came here as a teenager to pursue my dream of playing basketball at the
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highest level. i thought i'd spend my career here and i wanted so badly to bring you a championship. he went on to say. in good times and bad, from injuries to the nba finals, your support never changed. thank you not only for sharing my joy in our best moments, but also for lifting me up when i needed it most. we don't know when doncic will make his debut, playing alongside lebron james at the lakers. the team scheduled to take to the court next tomorrow night against the clippers. >> thank you for that. and queen b well, she's done it. beyoncé's cowboy carter took home more than one top prize at last night's grammy awards, despite being the most decorated artist in grammy history. the coveted category of album of the year is one she had not yet conquered until now. but maybe the biggest star of the evening was the city of los angeles itself. the show paid tribute to
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the city and the emergency workers after last month's devastating wildfires. l.a. firefighters were invited on stage to close out the show. let's get to the show. cnn's elizabeth wagmeister has much more on this. take us through it. what are the big moments of the night? >> hey, kate. so beyonce, of course, was the big moment. as you said, she finally did it. she has broken records every time it seems that the grammys. but now she has done it again. so the first award of the night that she won was for best country album for cowboy carter. beyoncé herself even looking surprised as none other than taylor swift announced that she had won that award. and then, capping off the night with the biggest award of the night, finally winning album of the year. now, another standout moment that ran throughout the show, and i was in the room, kate and the performances were just really incredible. was the best new artist category was a stacked category. everybody from
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chappell roan to sabrina carpenter to benson boone all performing in there. right now. we see chappell roan as she is winning for best new artist now. she took the stage with a very powerful speech, actually calling on the record label executives in the room. let's take a look at what she had to say. >> i told. >> myself, if i ever won a grammy and i got to stand up here in front of the most powerful people in music, i would demand that labels and the industry profiting millions of dollars off of artists. i would offer a livable wage and health care, especially to developing artists. record labels need to treat their artists as valuable employees with a livable wage and health insurance and protection. labels. we got you, but you got us. >> so chappell getting a lot of praise for that momed

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