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brown is on assignment. i'm phil mattingly in washington, and we begin the hour with the breaking news on president trump's trade war postponed. president donald trump just announced he will pause the 25% tariffs on mexican imports. we have reporters in mexico city and in the north lawn of the white house. let's go straight to cnn's valeria leone in mexico city for the latest. valeria, midnight was the deadline here, where tariffs were supposed to be implemented. they're not now. why not now? >> why. >> so in a surprising shift. >> tariffs on mexican goods are. >> now on pause. >> after president. >> shimon and president trump. >> reached an agreement. so rather than presenting today mexico's response to the trump administration, tariffs, president shein confirmed that she had a conversation with president trump this morning, what she described as a long call of 45 minutes to talk about immigration issues and the
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interest that both countries have in reducing fentanyl consumption. both governments reached an agreement to secure the border. mexico has agreed on deploying national guards to the mexico u.s. border, and the mexican president said that she asked trump to cancel tariffs on mexican products, which shein said that trump agreed to. mexico's economy minister marcelo ebrard will be in charge of this negotiation with u.s. government officials. let's put the tariffs on pause forever. that's what mexico's president suggested to trump this morning. but they agreed to pause tariffs for one month. part of the agreement, she explained, has to do with the u.s. government committing to reducing the traffic arms into mexico. >> valeria leon, thanks so much. i want to turn to cnn's kevin liptak, who joins me now from the north lawn at the white house. kevin, there was also a call with canadian prime minister justin trudeau this
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morning. we haven't heard of any pause there, but there is supposed to be another one this afternoon. is this just a bilateral mexico u.s. thing, or do we expect another pause? also applying to the canadians? >> yeah. at this point, this only applies to mexico. and i'll tell you after that phone call with justin trudeau, officials i talked to on the canadian side were not all that optimistic about a last minute reprieve from these tariffs. but of course, they have scheduled up this follow up conversation at 3 p.m. eastern time. and it remains to be seen whether trump will extend the same one month pause on those 25% tariffs on canada, as he did on mexico. one thing that we've heard from officials this morning is that the negotiations with the mexicans that occurred throughout the weekend were going much better than the conversations were going with the canadians. we heard that from kevin hassett, one of the top economists here at the white house earlier this morning. now, i think the big question is whether or not this is a huge surprise. you know, we did hear
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from donald trump just last night that he didn't expect anything dramatic to come out of these telephone calls. but on the other hand, look at those numbers on the screen. the stock market at one point, the dow jones industrial average was down almost 600 points this morning. donald trump is attuned to nothing more than the stock market. and i think there was a sense, at least among some of his outside allies, that he was looking for an off ramp here. now, one of the big questions in this tariff battle is what exactly trump was looking for from canada and mexico. that had been a point of extreme frustration among canadian and mexican officials. what quantifiable metric did he want to see them take in order to ease off these tariffs? you know, just on friday, a delegation of canadian officials was here at the white house meeting with donald trump's border czar. they were supposed to meet around 4 p.m., donald trump at 4 p.m., says he wasn't looking for any concessions. so there was an incredible amount
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of confusion today. this morning, i think we are getting a good idea of what he's looking for, which is troops on the border, 10,000 troops on the border that mexico says it will send to try and cut down on those fentanyl flows. phil. >> we'll see what canada offers in their negotiations. obviously, 10% tariffs. also on china. no indication right now of any calls there. kevin liptak valerie leon, thanks so much. it is important to note that tariffs, as i noted on china and canada, have not been paused, at least at this moment. that might explain some of the market reaction. we've seen a pop, but not an entirety of a turnaround. cnn business correspondent vanessa yurkovich joins me now. do we expect a complete rebound here? >> i think. >> investors are being cautious. >> cautiously optimistic. >> this news obviously of this pause on tariffs with. mexico has encouraged investors investors. and you've seen markets recover just a little bit. they were down almost 2% all of them earlier this morning. but we've seen a pop. we've seen a recovery. but if you look at specific stocks,
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specific industries that were expected to be targeted with these tariffs, you see a mix. you see general motors down down over 2%. you see three m which is manufacturing down about 1%. and constellation brands this is a company an alcohol company that imports and exports from around the world. you see them still down over 2%. so investors still feeling a little bit shaky about whether or not tariffs will also be paused. with canada and mexico, two of our key trading partners. as it stands right now, tariffs are set to go into effect with canada 25% and about 10% with china. and the goods that are going to be impacted for everyday americans. you see it right there. grain, livestock, sugar, fertilizer, lumber, oil and gas are only going to be targeted at about a 10% tariff coming in from canada and then from china. electronics, home appliances, toys and footwear. americans, we
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buy about 50% of our footwear from china. so that's a significant amount. so we are waiting to see what happens. and of course, phil retaliatory tariffs happen. that's already we've already heard from canada that they're expecting to retaliate with 25% tariffs against goods that are coming out of the u.s. and into canada. we'll see. there's another call, as you mentioned, scheduled with trudeau later this afternoon. will there be a turnaround like there was with mexico, phil? we'll have to wait and see. >> all right. vanessa yurkevich, thanks so much. joining me now for more on this. former michigan congressman and governor james blanchard also served as the u.s. ambassador to canada, sir. the biggest question right now is, is this the start of a complete turnaround, or is donald trump planning to split this on some level? and canada is still going to have to face the tariffs? do you have any insight right now? >> no. you know, i think there are people hoping there will be some sort of deal soon. uh, and
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work things out. it's harder with canada because the basis for attacking them is it's ridiculous. trump is accusing them of being a national security threat. that's absurd. we share all intelligence. we've been allies with canada since world war i. uh, there's minuscule amounts of fentanyl coming in from canada, and there are more migrants going north to canada than south from canada to the u.s. so the basis of all this is absurd. hopefully it'll get worked out. but if we don't, the prices in michigan and elsewhere, the cost of living on food, cars, automobiles will go up. it's inflationary. and look, everybody who knows anything about canada and trade knows what i'm saying is true. beyond that, though, if we get a deal or a reprieve or something, the long term damage to our relations with canada has really, really been severe. this is not the feelings of
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canadians. our best friend, our best partner, our best allies have been really devastated. they're not only hurt, they're at this point angry. it's going to take a lot of time, many months, maybe years to repair the damage to our partnership with our trusted ally canada and everyone in canada. watching this knows what i say is true. this is tragic for no reason, no excuse here for us to do this to canada and with mexico. again, you don't want to treat your partners and your neighbors this way. and by the way, it's disgusting to watch trump constantly threaten canada and mexico. but in canada's case, constantly threaten canada and belittle them as he's moving on with his policies. it is really insulting and it is a terrible representative of the leader of the united states of america. no american president has ever acted like this to work. canada.
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can i ask you almost anybody else? >> to the point? >> you broke up. >> to the to the point you're making right now when you talk to your diplomatic contacts in canada? what what is their view? i understand the anger. i understand the frustration. what are they telling you about what the end game is kind of the bilateral relationship, what it means going forward. >> i mean, look, they need to work something out. you know, every trade deal, every trade agreement has off ramps, meaning the u.s., canada, mexico trade agreement was scheduled to be reviewed next year. so there's probably a fig leaf that canada can give trump if they want to, that trump will accept and proclaim victory like invading normandy or something. look, we're dealing with an abnormal guy in the white house. we all know that the problem canadians have is they don't understand
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why the united states senate is standing up to him. they really wonder about that. sure, there could be a short term solution. a few more border guards. uh, something like that, which can can easily do and would do. i mean, look, we share we share the patrol, the great lakes, we have americans, coast guard and canadian in the same boat. all right. and i'm sensitive to that being from michigan. so cooperation has been the hallmark not conflict. they can work something out. but i'm telling you, this has gone too far. and i think most people, as i said, who are friends of canada in the united states, agree with me. canada does not deserve this. they deserve their respect and friendship. and we're going to repair the damage. >> wait, can i ask in terms of michigan itself, you know the state very well. you've been talking about the direct impact on the economy. i've driven over the bridge to windsor many
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times. being from toledo, what actually will if this goes into effect at midnight, what are we going to see in the state of michigan? a state that matters a lot to donald trump electorally? >> well, it could disrupt the auto industry for sure, because we have a totally integrated auto industry. as a matter of fact, we're about to celebrate the the opening of a brand new bridge, the gordie howe bridge, next fall. it's it's really one of it's the busiest corridor in the northern part of the united states. so it's an integrated auto industry. it'll really complicate the auto industry. and i don't know that it'll shut it down. it'll shut down some models, perhaps. look, they're all trying to prepare for this and try to find a way to survive it. it'll certainly affect the cost of living in terms of agricultural products from canada. uh, beef, poultry, uh, grains. uh, so from mexico, it's going to be more fruits and vegetables, but you'll have some of those from canada. utilities, utilities. uh,
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detroit is heated by natural gas coming from canada. home heating in the upper peninsula, people there, their homes are heated by propane that comes in from canada, that we have a completely integrated economy. you know, i grew up in suburban detroit, like 14 miles from the windsor city hall. i mean, and then you have you have you have tourism. uh, you know, canadians are beginning to boycott coming to the united states. that's revenue. tourism is an important industry. so the integration of our two countries in everything from national security to trade to economy to to environment, it's so strong that anyone who tries to put that asunder is making a grave mistake. and so i'm hoping our friends in the senate and i think, by the way, the senate republican leader from south dakota, senator thune, knows about agriculture. they need to put a stop to this. this isn't just going to happen at the white house. >> yeah. governor james blanchard, former ambassador to
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canada, thank you so much for your time, sir. appreciate it. >> thank you. thank you very much. >> well, still ahead this hour, does elon musk know your social security number under his role in the trump administration? the spacex ceo has just been given new access to the treasury department's payment system. our reporting next. >> on the boeing 747 has crashed in the lockerbie area. >> trying to find out the why of it became everything. >> nothing is what it seems in the lockerbie story. >> lockerbie, the bombing of pan am flight 103, february 16th on. >> necessary action. missing punches, unnecessary. >> check reversals. >> unnecessary time sheet corrections. >> unnecessary unanswered sick. >> time. >> get paycom. >> and make. >> the unnecessary. >> unnecessary. >> liberty. >> liberty mutual is all she talks about. since we saved hundreds by bundling our home and auto insurance. >> it's pronounced liberty.
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of government efficiency team. his members now have access to the u.s. treasury's payments system. now the top civil servant at the treasury department left abruptly on friday, the same day trump affiliated officials asked about stopping certain payments made by the federal government. now, this is kind of the plumbing here, the system that doles out more than $5 trillion in payments each year. that includes social security benefits, tax refunds and payments to federal workers. nearly 90% of the government's payments. cnn's katelyn polantz joins us now. caitlin, we've been covering this, working on this, reporting it out over the course of weeks. now. i think at this point, what does the team have access to right now? do we know what's happening in the treasury department? >> well. >> it. >> appears they have access to a super secret, super sensitive system within the treasury department. it's so sensitive and so low key in the way the treasury department operates that other administrations political appointees were barely paying attention to it. but what this is, is it's the
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essentially the accounting department for the entire federal government. it is the payment processor. so any time an agency says yes to a payment or says no to a payment, they refer that information back over to the treasury department, the bureau of fiscal service. and then they just cut the checks. what one person told me about that is that in looking at what elon musk, people affiliated with trump, people affiliated with elon musk are doing now that they are working at the treasury department. they seem to be what they seem to want treasury to be the choke point on payments. and that's unprecedented. that's what one source told me about what seems to be happening in the agency and what evolved over the last couple of weeks. there is that during the transition, there were people working with trump who had come in and started asking questions, really detailed questions. what kind of software is used for the federal government to cut its checks? trillions of dollars a year to deliver. can we visit centers in
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kansas and in philadelphia, where low level government employees are working on it to keep these systems running? they do not fail in delivering these payments, and that is something that is very core to the reliability of the federal government and the nation's economy and the treasury initially was didn't really respond to that. and then this top civil servant over this bureau, the bureau of fiscal service, he got into a fight with the people affiliated with trump and with elon musk. the department of government efficiency last week ended up leaving the agency very abruptly. and that's how they appear to get access to that. we don't know exactly what's happening now, but it's a scary situation for a lot of people, especially at the treasury department, who've been there a long time and protected these systems, because elon musk is now out there on twitter saying the doge team is rapidly shutting down illegal payments. but at the core of this, it is not the treasury department's choice whether these payments are illegal. it depends on other
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things in the federal government to decide yes or no on what payments. >> it's not how the system works. i think look candidly, there was probably a lack of imagination on my part when we were reporting this out in terms of what intentions may have been and what they were actually trying to do. and i think at treasury, they were confused as well, because they'd never gotten asks for briefings like this, for access like this before. but i think one of the interesting things, and you've kind of followed this from the start, there's a broader picture here that's being painted across the federal government. this isn't treasury specific. this isn't bfs specific. what is it? >> well, we we know that there are people like musk who want to shut off certain payments that the federal government makes. we don't know how their decision making is being made. we don't even know if musk right now is a federal government employee. like that question has not been answered by anyone. but there is a bigger issue that's evolving in the administration where, you know, last week, the office of management and budget said, we want to freeze outgoing grants and loans, and then the courts
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got involved and said, hold up, don't do that. you can't do that. we're putting court orders on you not to do that. we don't know if what's happening at the treasury department is is sort of a workaround to what's happening in court related to the omb freeze. that proposal that was rescinded. but it's it's a question that is on the table. are there levers of payments across the federal government that musk and trump are trying to turn off in different ways? and one of the things that just happened last night is that after the courts last week said this omb freeze on grants, stop, you can't go forward with it. one of the nonprofit groups that is suing said, we found a group of nonprofit nonprofit group that has five employees in west virginia. they operate paycheck to paycheck, building wheelchair ramps for people with disabilities in west virginia, taking people to dialysis appointments to pharmacies, to
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groceries to get food. that's what this charity in west virginia does. the money has shut off. that charity cannot get access to the payment system where it funds itself through what the federal government disburses to them. so even with the courts saying you can't freeze grants and loans to nonprofits, there is evidence from at least one nonprofit in the country that says we can't access the money that the courts say we're entitled to now, and it just raises more questions. what is happening here and what happens next with the administration and in court? >> a lot of questions right now is kind of the biggest takeaway. katelyn polantz great reporting as always. thanks so much. well, still ahead, vice president vance is on his way to east palestine, two years after the toxic train derailment. that is, a major new lawsuit is filed against norfolk southern. one of the plaintiffs joins me next. >> welcome back. >> have i got news for you
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shou chew dennis. she lived in east palestine at the time of the crash, and is one of the participants in the lawsuit. thank you so much for joining us. i just to start, why did you decide to join this lawsuit? >> well. >> we definitely. >> needed some answers, my family and i. my son was nine years. old at the time. we both got very sick the night that it had happened. we waited several months, displaced for 18 months total, living in hotels. my son had to repeat the fourth grade because of the loss of his education. we still don't have answers for our health impact and a lot of the experts that are involved are saying that it could just get worse for us. so, you know, i would like to have some kind of resolution for that. >> in terms of your experience here, i think the importance of of this day and of watching the vice president and his arrival there is shining a light back on a place two years later that perhaps people have moved on from. talk about what these two
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years have been. do you feel like you've gotten the assistance you've needed? do you feel like local, state, and federal officials have listened when you've raised issues and told them what you need? >> uh, i feel like we've been left with more questions than answers every step of this way. a lot of people are honestly still in the position they were the night that it had happened. a lot of people who got the most sick left early and, you know, they're living in different states or they're living in rvs and campers on couches of families still. two years later, we don't even have places for people to live who were evacuated from these chemicals. and yeah, the local government seems to want to shut their doors on our needs. they want to say everything's cleaned up and it's always on the brink of being almost done. but it's been two years. you know, i left my lease after waiting seven months because we needed to move on with our life. like, clearly the cleanup wasn't happening. um, people are still sick. we still don't have specialists to go to. we don't have anywhere to cover the cost of that. this
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settlement is honestly a joke in terms of what we need long term. um, people need to have health coverage for life. a lot of things are going to come up in the future. and the fact that the settlement is withholding data from their experts about this stuff is concerning to me as well. um, yeah, it's a lot. >> it is a lot. do you have expectations? i feel like there's been so much disappointment when you talk to residents of east palestine across the board. apolitical disappointment. it's not about a party. it's just writ large that the visit from the vice president, that this administration, given what it pledged during the campaign, that they will be able to answer some of your questions, they will be able to get some of the help you're asking for yeah. >> i would like to see the federal government be able to step in, because when vance was a senator, he did seem to listen to us in some degree. you know, i actually met with him down in washington, d.c., with a group of residents. and, you know, he did write letters of support
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about our medi-cal, medi-cal, medical costs, um, and our ongoing needs that we still have that's being neglected. um, so i do have some hope that he's going to continue to, like, follow through on what he's so adamantly, you know, talked about. you know, he did get people to kind of talk about the situation when it first started happening. um, so i'd like to see a change happen. i'd like to see some action happen. i hope they take the ntsb report very seriously, because none of those, um, suggestions have been, um, addressed yet by that ntsb report. so i hope this isn't another useless handshake and photo op. um, but i'm not sure we really. i mean, we had to beg president biden to come in. um, i think a lot of people are going to be upset when if jd vance doesn't bring something concrete to the table, because, like i said, this settlement is not enough. a couple a few thousand dollars isn't enough to cover people's homes that they owned to to relocate them to cover health care coverage. you know, a cost of cancer treatment
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is probably going to be more than what people are getting from this settlement. so, um, it's very concerning, and i hope that they step in and intervene. um, they can enact 1881 to get us life, uh, coverage for medical costs. um, they can declare an emergency declaration. there's a few things that they can do that i hope they will follow through with at least vance. um, and then trump as well made an appearance. you know, he brought water. yeah. which obviously is not enough. but you know, that that need to do action to take action is really what i'm looking for. and i'm hoping that's going to happen because we're very afraid of the future consequences. and, you know, my son, he's just young. you know, i don't want to. so when you're also in the settlement, you sign away your rights to sue for health, future health impacts. so as a mother, that's very concerning for me. so i hope something else comes along and takes care of this. and i hope the government can intervene and do that. >> well, please keep us posted. you see, jd vance is walking down from the plane's stairway right now for that visit to east palestine. we certainly will be
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following up. uh suzetrigine. we appreciate your time. thank you to the community. and also thinking about your family. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> we'll keep an eye on that. also this morning, the justice department is instructing thousands of fbi employees to fill out a questionnaire about their work investigating the january 6th insurrection. the unusual move, to say the least, comes as president trump's administration is considering expanding its purge of career law enforcement officials. joined now by cnn security correspondent and former fbi agent josh campbell. josh, how are fbi employees reacting to this? >> well, it is a five alarm fire right now at the fbi. i've talked to numerous people, their agents, professional staff, and they are worried that mass firings could be coming their way. we know that donald trump's justice department has already cleared out the executive level of the fbi. about seven people so far. but as you mentioned, that questionnaire that went out to employees yesterday who had some
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type of involvement in the january 6th investigation, what they fear is that this is essentially providing a list that doj could then use to fire employees who were working on that investigation. again, the questionnaire asking those agents, what was your role? providing additional information. and so they think that there's only one direction that this is leading is trying to come up with a list to possibly fire people. now, the fbi agents association, which represents thousands of fbi agents. i'll read you an email they sent. they're basically telling members, do not resign. don't voluntarily leave. they say that while we would never advocate for physical noncompliance, you need to be clear that your removal is not voluntary. now, interestingly, as besieged as the bureau feels right now, internally, there are a lot of leaders there that are stepping up to try to defend their people. we got reporting just yesterday of the fbi agent in new york, the top agent in that office, who sent out an email to the troops, essentially saying that it is time to dig in. he said that agents should not be unfairly targeted because they were doing their jobs in
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accordance with law and fbi policy. of course, they're just on tenterhooks now because they're waiting to see what trump's justice department will actually do. he's made it clear that he doesn't. you know, he basically despises those investigations that involved him as well as january 6th. of course, they fear that retribution could be just over the horizon. >> josh campbell, thanks so much. you bet. and we'll be right back. >> the last thing you think is someone's going to pass away. >> everybody watched. >> him become. >> this force. >> none of us is perfect. doby lived. >> it in a way that the world watched. >> the finale. >> of kobe the making of a legend, saturday at nine on cnn. >> want the fastest. >> working glp. >> one for half the price? roh now offers. >> fda approved. >> weight loss injections. cheaper with results. >> you can see. >> faster. >> lose 15%. >> of your weight. >> with the formula. >> from eli lilly that hits not. >> one, but. >> two. hormones to curb hunger
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army helicopter that collided with an american airlines flight. one specific focus will be the military helicopters altitude. at the moment of impact. investigators are also studying the voice and data recorders from the american airlines flight. also today, the army corps of engineers, you can see it right there recovering the plane wreckage from the potomac river. crews have recovered and identified the remains of at least 55 victims. joining me now is steven wallace, a former faa director of accident investigation. steve, are you surprised that black box information will be released as soon as today? >> you know, this is something that's different. i worked with the ntsb for decades, and this is they've gotten more forthcoming about releasing that. and while they will be very careful not to announce the official probable cause of the accident until they have examined all the evidence, and in this accident, they have all the evidence. it's all there. but they have gotten better, i
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think. and, you know, there's a tremendous public pressure and desire to know what happened. so they've gotten quite a lot better. they've already released yet already the fact that the recorders on the jet showed that it was a 325ft at the point of impact and and, you know, while not announcing the probable cause, the helicopter was reportedly supposed to have been at 200ft. >> so when you say everything that they need is kind of there, what do you mean? for people who are novices here or who are trying to figure out what's what are you seeing right now that gives you confidence that they've got everything that they'll need to be able to have a fulsome investigation. >> so just about exactly ten years ago, we lost the malaysia flight 370. this airplane disappeared over the horizon. that's from an investigative standpoint. you know, there's nothing some debris washed up in on mauritius. months later, here we have state of the art flight
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data and voice recorder on the airliner. i'm not quite clear. i think there's a combined voice and flight data recorder coming off of the military aircraft. we have radar data. we have eyewitnesses, and we have all the wreckage. i mean, there's like there's nothing missing. and and the ntsb, they're never in a hurry, but they're always methodical. and so they will just go through every piece of the evidence methodically and oftentimes i would say more often than not, in a major accident, they don't announce the probable cause. for over a year. i suspect that this one will be somewhat faster than usual, because there's a lot of pressure, and because all the evidence is sort of in their hands. >> to that point, we if we could bring that video back up of the the engine being pulled out of the potomac, you know, piece by piece, the engine in particular, like, what are they looking for as they recover more of the
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debris. >> so they will. >> look at. >> everything. this in this accident, i don't see anything that suggests. a mechanical failure of any kind, unlike the the business jet accident in philadelphia. it looks like something went catastrophically wrong. but i don't see so. but they won't eliminate anything. they will examine the end. they will examine the engine and and, you know, see if there's any indication of any mechanical failure of any kind. but this, this airliners approach, from what i could see, looked to be absolutely normal up until the point of impact. >> the the investigators never want politics or public pressure to play into anything. but this is a political time we are living in, and certainly there's been a lot of attention on the accident. what happened, the investigation, how does that play? if you're an investigator in this, if you're an executive
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overseeing these investigations. >> there's a huge amount of integrity in the aviation community. and the ntsb will lead this investigation. but it uses a party system, which means that the faa is required. where i worked was required by law to be a party to all investigations. but the airlines, the aircraft manufacturer, probably the air traffic controllers union, the pilots unions, anybody who has a stake in it and some expertise to bring to the table will be invited. and i must say, i have seen, um, i have a huge amount of respect for the ntsb and their ability to just be fiercely independent and resistant to political pressures. >> is will there be an idea of all these are changes that need to be made after this? or this is a place where we could have done better. this is a place where we have deficiencies that need to be addressed. how should people expect this? the investigation and the kind of endgame of it to to lead to
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hopefully positive change out of this? >> well, absolutely. i mean, i would point out that the prior to this accident, the last time that a united states airliner was in a mid-air collision was in september of 1978. this is a system that operates depending how you count 30,000 airline or bring in the maybe 45,000 instrument flights every day. and so the system works incredibly well. yet this horrific accident happened. so everybody in the community will be absolutely determined to do whatever is necessary to make sure that it can't happen again. and of course, there's discussion of the particular challenges of reagan airport and the mix of, uh, of military traffic. and here also just the use of visual separation. i'm a pilot. it's not unusual. the controller says, have you visually acquired the aircraft? can you maintain visual
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separation, fall behind? um, you know, these are things. that, um, there's room for human error. and i would just like to say that, uh, among accident investigators is kind of an expression, which is that when you find the human error, that isn't the end of the investigation. that is the beginning of the investigation. meaning, because we we look more and more at human factors like human errors, why did it happen? you know, fatigue, lack of training. i mean, absolutely. uh, and the ntsb gets better and better and that's more often the focus of accidents, the human factors involved. >> stephen wallace, appreciate your time. thanks so much. >> thank you. thank you, phil. >> and we'll be right back.
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white house borders are tom homan talk about repeatedly, which is that he needs more funding from congress, that he wants to up the number of detention beds. and last week, president donald trump said that he wants to expand facilities at guantanamo bay to hold migrants for temporary periods. so what is happening on the ground right now is that as they are arresting people, in many cases, sometimes they just don't have detention space and they can release them on other what they call alternatives to detention. this has been an existing program. it's a way to monitor people in the system, even if they don't have the space for them in the moment. so what they are doing is holding some people, repatriating some people, and others are still getting released after they've been arrested. so this is part of what the white house is keenly aware of because of their sort of proclamations to congress that they need the money, but also by just by signaling with guantanamo bay that they are looking for more space. >> congress sets the beds, congress funds. is there still a way around that that they're looking at right now, or is this just a reality until they get new money? >> well, they do use county
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jails as well. so they do have other facilities that they can lean on. but to your point, congress has allotted about 41,000 beds. it's certainly not enough for what they are trying to achieve. >> how do they feel in the minute we have left here about how the first couple of weeks have gone? when you talk to your sources in the administration. >> look, they feel pretty good. they have certainly had something that we haven't seen before, which is bringing all federal agencies into immigration enforcement by giving them that authority to do that. and that alone is what they call the force multiplying out on the field. and they feel good about that. they haven't done that before. when it's immigration centric. we may have seen that with, for example, drug task forces. so that is something they feel good about. but what is happening behind the scenes too, is that they are having to plan for the realities that have been the u.s. immigration system for a very long time, which is that the department of homeland security and its immigration enforcement agencies are just understaffed and under-resourced. so a lot of this has been trying to make up for that by using other levers in the federal government. the defense department is another
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one that they're pulling. we've seen that along the u.s. southern border, and they're trying to make their show of force. so certainly all of this is happening all at once. but the question again comes back to ambition and reality. and there are still questions that need to be answered on that. >> yeah. and a legislative avenue that they have to pursue and are in the midst of, but still very early stages. priscilla, as always, great reporting. appreciate it. thank you for joining us. i'm phil mattingly. stay with us. inside politics with dana bash starts after a short break. >> before the spotlight. >> we struggled. >> to keep the lights on. >> tatum with the ball. >> my ambitions were. >> to make it to the league and get my money right. >> dribbles up the court. >> i saw more from myself. crosses and sophie gives members confidence to see more for themselves. helping them earn and save more money for their ambitions. believe you can get there with the next generation of banking. >> and the crowd goes wild. >> join the official bank of the
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