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political opponents essentially. but me being the number one and so many other things beyond that, and they've been hurt very badly and we'll see what happens. but cash is the one to do it. and i hear he's doing very well. cash will straighten it out. we have great confidence that we can make the fbi great again. >> mr. tulsi gabbard. >> okay, 1 or 2 more and we'll be. >> done. >> nomination is. >> say it. tulsi gabbard. >> yeah, i think tulsi is going to be doing okay. i'm not sure i can't guarantee anything, but she's liked by so many people, especially people in the military and law enforcement. >> she has a little bit of trouble with some senators over her thoughts on edward snowden. i know snowden, you've mentioned in the past you're thinking about pardoning him. are you still and what do you think about that? are you discussing with mr.
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murdoch and mr. ellison? >> just respect. i have great respect for rupert murdoch. i disagree with him a lot of times with the wall street journal, but that's all right. we've disagreed before, but and i'm sure they didn't have any idea what they were talking about because already you see what's happening. look at look at columbia. look at what happened with that. everybody said that with columbia it was going to be a disaster in 1 in 1 hour. everything was settled. you know why? tariffs. tariffs without tariffs, they wouldn't have been the same way. they weren't would not have treated me the way they treated me, which was extremely nicely. uh, and i don't want to use countries, i don't want to use names. but tariffs are very powerful both economically and in getting everything else you want. tariffs for us. nobody can compete with us because we're the pot of gold. but if we don't keep winning and keep doing well, we won't be the pot of gold. and then tariffs won't be so good for us. but when
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you're the pot of gold, the tariffs are uh the tariffs are very good. they're very powerful. and they're going to make our country very rich again. thank you very much, everybody. >> thank you. thank you guys. thank you guys. >> no i don't know. >> i don't know. thank you guys. >> let's go. how is the market doing. >> hey guys. thank you guys. thank you guys. so i did i don't know. >> i don't think. >> about it. thank you. thank you guys. >> thank you very much. >> thank you guys. >> we can fact check that one though. he does think about the market often. and we certainly know that you can call it the weave. but for a press conference where he talked a lot about the panama canal, it meandered more than the panama canal. and with all of the ups and downs of it to boot. >> he covered a lot of ground there. my notes are a bit of a mess, given the amount of stuff we just heard from president trump. he talked about a sovereign wealth fund. he signed an executive order to create an exploratory committee to go that
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route. he also talked about the firings of officials at usaid. he essentially said that he believed that disintegrating that agency is within the purview of the white house. he said he doesn't need congressional approval to shutter it. he made some accusations about fraud regarding that agency that i at least had not heard before. he also talked about tariffs, discussing his phone call with mexican president claudia sheinbaum this morning, an agreement that mexico made to send 10,000 troops to their border to try to block fentanyl and undocumented immigrants from crossing the border. he also previewed his conversation with prime minister justin trudeau of canada later this afternoon. >> that's right. he's really trumpeting this approach, which is using tariffs as a big stick, whether it is in colombia or whether it is in mexico, where they have agreed to get a pause in these tariffs to have 10,000 mexican soldiers on the border. and when it comes to canada, as he's waging a trade war there, and we're seeing this expecting this call here in about an hour,
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he said. we don't need them to take our cars, but what is sort of missing, and we're going to bring in our reporters to talk about this is just how inextricably linked the auto industries of america and canada are. you may ask your neighbor for a cup of sugar. they may ask you for some flour. but if you look at detroit, it is right next to canada. and they are like that when it comes to auto parts or software or molds. these are things that are crossing the border in the course of production, and they are very much linked. i want to bring in jeff zeleny, who is there. we heard him asking questions during this. jeff, tell us a little bit about what stood out to you. >> well, look, fernando, you and boris were talking about at the very end there where president trump said he doesn't look at the stock market. we asked that question if this was a decision he made with the mexican president this morning because of the global stock reaction. and he said no. and he said, i don't look at the market. what
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was it doing? we know, obviously, based on watching him for a very long time, that is not true. we do not know if that's why he reached a temporary agreement with mexican president claudia sheinbaum, but that was certainly interesting. but i think just overall, clearly the president is, you know, saying that he has a 3 p.m. phone call with the canadian president, but he put a lot of distance between and differentiated between mexico and canada. but you were absolutely right. the big picture here is that a lot of these supply chains, a lot of manufacturing is north american manufacturing, of course, including canada, the u.s. and mexico. but in that wide ranging signing of executive orders, the president, clearly in an upbeat mood there, except when we asked him about the wall street journal, really demonizing and criticizing the the trade war, calling it the dumbest trade war. rupert murdoch was sitting in the oval office. of course, he is the longtime patriarch of
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the wall street journal. he's essentially past most of that on to his family now, but he got a smile on his face. the president had a smile on his face, said the wall street journal. is often wrong, but the reality here is business leaders and republicans on capitol hill from red states were very concerned about the the ramifications of this trade war. the president said he did not blink on this. he said the deal with mexico to have some 10,000 national guard of their national guard on the border was a good deal, but left unclear what will happen with the candidate or china by midnight, when that deadline is still looming. >> yeah, he mentioned that he's going to have a call with china in the next 24 hours, notably jeff. he also spoke there extensively about the panama canal and doing something big to take it back. essentially. he apparently said that there's a call with panama on friday. of course, secretary of state marco rubio is on his way back from
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there. pivoting, though, to usaid and elon musk, something notable. the president there was asked whether musk had any conflicts of interest, whether he might have made decisions that the white house didn't agree with. and trump essentially said that musk is only taking steps if we agree with him for these firings, and arguing that the tesla founder, the founder of spacex, who has all these government contracts, does not have any conflicts of interest. what did you make of those remarks? >> look, i mean, that is something that is very much an open question here. and the president saying that conflicts of interest do not exist does not make it so. but i think on usaid, when we asked the president if he believes he can dissolve it without an act of congress, he says yes, he believes he can. the there are many people who disagree with that. we also asked about the usaid and foreign aid in his first administration as president. he looked very
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favorably or certainly more favorably on usaid. ivanka trump, of course, is senior advisor, was using usaid to for women's programs, proposals and things. and he said yes, he thinks it is a good idea. but then he talked about fraud that was unsubstantiated and the like. but on elon musk specifically there, he said that, you know, he is giving elon musk these, these directions. but the question here is how much detail the president and even some people in the white house are aware of what elon musk and some of his top lieutenants are doing, that is in very much an open question here. but he did raise the conflict of interest idea, saying if there were conflicts, that is something that he would call out. but again, a little bit like the chicken guarding the henhouse here. >> all right, jeff, let's bring in daniel dale. you have a lot to fact check here, daniel, i don't know. i'll take one off your plate, though, which is the condoms for hamas. not true. it's kind of become the haitians eating your pets
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because it's been debunked. it's not true, but it plays well with the base. so he's repeating it here. we should say worldwide. usaid didn't provide $50 million in condoms. no condoms to the middle east during that time period of the last few years in question. take it away. what else? what else? >> so he he said that a 38,000 americans died during the construction of the panama canal. in fact, during the american construction phase that we're talking early 20th century, it was roughly 6000. but those people, even those 6000, were not all americans. they were mostly poorly paid caribbean workers. the actual american number was in the hundreds. so a gross exaggeration, he said when talking about canada. they don't take our agricultural products for the most part. in fact, canada is the third largest export market for u.s. agriculture. about $28 billion in purchases in 2023. there is a dispute about milk exports that he referred to. but in terms of agriculture as a whole, it's not true. he said, that the european union doesn't take our farm
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products. the european union is the fourth largest export market, about 12 billion per year, he said. we have about a 350 billion trade deficit with the eu. another gross exaggeration. it's about 125 billion. and he repeated this claim about aid to ukraine, that he repeatedly that he regularly makes. he said that the eu provides way less aid to ukraine than the u.s. does. they need to catch up and so on. in fact, according to the latest numbers we have, the eu has committed about double the aid to ukraine during this war than the u.s. has about 250 billion to about 125 billion to the u.s. eu also leads in terms of the amount of aid actually allocated. so that's not true as well. >> i actually want to fact check something you said just now, brianna, because i believe i wrote it down. trump actually exaggerated his own made up, exaggerated claim during this. he doubled it. he used to say that it was 50 million for condoms in gaza. >> what did he say? >> he said 100 million. oh, this time, neither. >> of which for.
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>> fact checking me, neither. >> of which. >> to be clear, daniel, are correct. >> but one is doubly incorrect. >> there's a yeah. >> there's a concept i think of as trump flation where he makes a false claim and then it keeps getting falser and falser. over time, the numbers keep rising. so a good example there. >> daniel dale, thank you so much. we also have matt egan with us who has been watching markets very closely. and it was clear, matt, this morning, once the deadline for these tariffs were obviously looming before midnight tonight, that markets were not responding well. the announced deal with mexico to delay them for a month saw a quick bump up. and they're kind of back down now right. yeah. >> boris you know so much about tariffs can be really complicated. but the stock market reaction was really simple right. we saw markets take a hit on friday when investors realized that president trump may actually go forward with these tariffs. the market opened sharply lower. the
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dow was down about 700 points at one point this morning. but yes you're right. look at that. you can see the market bounced all the way back as those tariffs on mexico have been delayed. but the broader market is still down a bit because there is obviously so much uncertainty. now i found this conversation with president trump in the oval office that we just saw really fascinating, a fascinating window into why he loves tariffs so much. he views them as this magical negotiating tool, right. this ability to get leverage over other countries. and he doesn't really distinguish almost at all between friends or rival countries. right. and so he's willing to threaten to impose tariffs on longtime allies and neighbors like canada and mexico as well as on china. and so there were some really important updates there, right? he was praising the president of mexico, explaining why those tariffs have been not canceled
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but delayed. but he had tougher comments about the prime minister of canada, justin trudeau. he was complaining about some of the regulatory practices in canada and sort of suggesting that we don't need to bring in some of the goods from canada, although i think the housing industry has been pretty clear in their arguments that we do need to bring in a lot of those building materials like lumber. and trump also made clear that really, this is just the beginning of his tariff strategy here, right? i mean, he said that this is just an opening salvo when it comes to china. he said tariffs will go much higher if they need to. he suggested tariffs on the european union as well. and so this is just another reminder of how all of this uncertainty is really just beginning here. right. tariffs are on. they're off. they're dialed up. they're dialed back. and then meanwhile we see the market go all over the place. and consumers and investors ceos are just trying to make sense of all. >> the roller coaster. >> that certainly is matt egan thank you so much for that. we do appreciate it. and we're
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joined now by charlie angus. he is a member of the canadian parliament. you heard him there, sir. what i'd like is for canada to become our 51st state. he said it before. he just said it again moments ago. your reaction? >> well, what president trump also said is that the tariffs will not come off until we give up our birthright and our sovereignty to a convicted predator that is never, ever, ever going to happen. so what donald trump has done is unified canadians in a manner i've never seen before. and while americans may be waking up to the tariffs, we've already started the pushback. people in kentucky. did you know that your biggest export market for spirits is canada? we just took everything off the shelves. california. did you know that the largest purchaser of wines in the world is the liquor agency in ontario? you don't get any more california wines in ontario. elon musk, our premier, just canceled a $100 million deal.
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today. canada is getting ready for this fight because we know that he's erratic. it may be this week, it may be next week, but there's a huge actual boycott going on in grocery stores. ordinary people, people stopped me on the streets. nobody is buying anything that comes out of the united states right now because we understand this is a threat to who we are as a nation. >> there are also republicans here in farm states concerned about ingredients for fertilizers that come from canada as well. there are a myriad of products that we are just learning about as americans. fascinating. although perhaps not under duress, to learn about them. he's obviously looking for some kind of concession. you hear him, he talks about colombia. he's talking about mexico and the 10,000 mexican troops. and i know you view him as unreasonable, to say the least, here, but do you think that ultimately canada might end up conceding, or is that not even a
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possibility? >> well, i think the issue is, is that donald trump has claimed that canada is a narco state. the man's a liar. so would we put some more money on the border? sure. i'd love to put more money on the border to keep american guns from shooting our people on the streets. we would do that to avoid a trade war. we're reasonable as canadians. but when you have somebody threatening our sovereignty, well, we're hunkering down for a fight here. so, yes, for people in, in in the grain growing belts, potash from canada is essential for the tech people. critical minerals. we've already had our b.c. premier talk about shutting off the critical mineral flow. would you need that? but the big issue, and i think it was raised by some of your previous panelists, otto, the auto sector is so integrated that within a week, with even without the retaliatory trade, uh, pressure from canada, you'll start to see lansing, toledo, bowling green start to sputter and go down because this is just in time
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delivery. our whole north american economy is based on this. so the donald trump thinks that canada is his biggest enemy. the guy wouldn't stand up to putin. he gives a feather to china, but he's going to pick a fight with us. well, if that's the way it's going to be, we will be there pound for pound. it's going to hurt us a lot. but the american people are much more divided than we are right now, and we are unified. so we wait to see what comes next. >> we're going to see this call or hope to see soon what comes of it. it's supposed to take place in about 45 minutes. would you say then that canada is going to call his bluff, or is already calling his bluff? >> well, we've already announced, i think, $125 billion in retaliatory tariffs. we will give 21 days pause so that our companies can start to retool. um, before we launch the next level. we've already started pulling off a lot of american products off the shelves prior to this. um, i'm hoping that our
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prime minister will cut a deal. i think with donald, it's so important that he looks like he's won something. i mean, this isn't gunboat diplomacy. this is really, i don't know, like al capone in a syphilitic period, trying to do a shakedown. so, yeah, we'll make concessions on something that, you know, he can write a press release about, but on key areas, canadians would, i think, would hunt our leaders down if they bowed and kissed the ring to the man from mar-a-lago. it's not going to happen. so we shall see. i'm hoping that we can get through this and get back to work with our american cousins. >> sir. thanks for being with us. canadian mp charlie angus. we do appreciate it. >> thanks so much. >> still to come this hour elon musk upending the lives of many federal workers. thousands have been told to stay home today after the world's richest man announces via x, his social media platform, that their agency is being shut down. plus, crews have begun salvaging the wreckage of american airlines
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confirming that it's essentially been folded into the state department. usaid spends billions of dollars each year to fight poverty, treat disease and respond to natural disasters around the world. we're joined now by jeremy konyndyk, a former senior official at usaid. he's also the president of refugees international. jeremy, thank you so much for being with us. first, i just want to get your reaction to what you heard there from donald trump in the oval office, not just saying that he doesn't need congressional approval to scrap usaid, but also making these accusations about fraud and corruption at the agency. >> yeah, there's a lot of disinformation flying around from the administration right now. but to be really clear, what's happening, this is the world's richest man deciding the world's richest country should stop helping the world's poorest people. that is the story here. the president does not have the authority to unilaterally shutter a federal agency that has been established in congressional and congressional statute. >> i wonder what you make of marco rubio then, saying that he's now the acting director of usaid. >> i saw that i suspect that's a sort of gambit for them to get away with saying, well, we
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haven't destroyed the agency as a legislative matter yet. we still have a director. it just happens to be the secretary of state. but look, there is there has been a lot of destruction at the agency over the weekend. there's very little clarity on what's replacing it or what their what their actual affirmative plan is to continue this vital mission. >> is there any recourse for legal action or congressional intervention, perhaps, to try to question or argue against what trump is saying, that he can do this unilaterally? >> i expect there will be legal challenges. a number of congress members of congress have been out front of usaid this afternoon, rallying in support of the agency, standing up for congressional prerogatives, noting that this is, in fact, a congressionally mandated agency. it can't just be disappeared. >> what about this argument from rubio, when he was in el salvador, saying that usaid is supposed to respond to policy directives of the state department, yet it refuses to do so? >> it does respond. it is mandated to respond to the policy directives of the secretary. that's not new. that's been lost since the late
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1990s. every usaid administrator of both parties has always followed that. i have no idea what he's talking about there. notably short on specifics on a lot of these accusations that are being lobbed against the agency. >> you don't see a space where, as they've argued, the work of usaid directly interferes with un, rather with united states national security objectives. >> no, not at all. most of what most of the work usaid does is actually directed by congress. congress says fund this much for health fund this much for education fund this much for humanitarian assistance. the administration negotiates that budget with congress every year and then executes that. i don't see where they're seeing some huge disconnect. certainly the agency is not operating on its own power. they're operating under congressional and state department directives. >> on the doge personnel that went to headquarters this weekend and apparently got access to usaid, usaid, security systems, and personnel files. what would they gain trying to access that information? what do you think their objectives were? >> that is a very, very important question to dig into.
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you know, like any national security agency. and of course, usaid is a national security agency, part of the foreign policy apparatus. they have access to highly classified intelligence through their secure facilities. it's very, very worrying if people without the appropriate clearances got into those facilities. and, you know, if i'm a if i'm a partner country of the united states that shares intelligence, i'm now wondering, is elon musk or is some 23 year old who works for elon musk able to read what i'm sharing with the u.s. government? >> have you heard from any usaid employees that got that email telling them to stay home today? how are they feeling about all this? >> i think the whole usaid workforce is just gutted right now. you know, i served in that agency two times in prior administrations. i know many of those people. they do this work, you know, not for glory. most of the time, usaid is out of the headlines and no one pays it. this is probably the most attention usaid has ever gotten. so they are doing this because they believe in the mission, and the mission is to help support people around the world. going
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back to why jfk created this agency back in the early 1960s, that's why they're there, and they're gutted not to be able to do that. >> jeremy konyndyk we appreciate you coming in and sharing your perspective. thank you so much. still to come on cnn news central investigators revealing new clues about the final moments of that doomed american airlines flight as crews begin salvaging pieces of it from the bottom of the potomac. an update just moments away. >> the boeing 747 has crashed in the lockerbie area., trying to find out the why of it became everything. >> nothing is what it seems in the lockerbie story. >> lockerbie, the bombing of pan am flight 103, february 16th on cnn. >> you founded your kayak company because you love the ocean, not spreadsheets. you need to hire. >> i need indeed. >> indeed you do. our matching platform lets you spend less time searching and more time connecting with candidates. visit indeed.com slash hire. >> this is what it feels like to file with taxslayer. confident
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>> tonight at 10:00 eastern on cnn. >> in just a few hours, we could get some major clues as to why an army helicopter collided with a passenger jet over washington, dc last week, killing 67 people. the ntsb is expected to release the data from the helicopter's black box, found over the weekend. one of three flight recorders recovered from the two aircraft. today, the operation is set to enter a new phase as crews begin removing large sections of wreckage from the american airlines plane. the dc fire chief says that so far, 55 victims have been identified and that crews will pause salvage efforts if more remains are discovered. cnn's gabe cohen is at reagan national for us. gabe, what more should we expect from this ntsb briefing well. >> boris, if they do have flight data and voice recordings from the helicopter, it's going to paint, hopefully a much clearer picture of what was going on on that black hawk just before this
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collision. and hopefully it can answer some of these outstanding questions that we still have. remember some of the early data from the black boxes on the jet indicate that at the time of the collision, the plane was flying at an altitude of about 325ft. that is well above the 200 foot limit for helicopters along that route on the potomac. they are still gathering radar data, trying to shore up that discrepancy. but if in fact, the data from the black box on the helicopter lines up with that, they're going to want to know why it was flying upwards of 300ft. and perhaps voice recordings from on board will answer some of those questions. we also know that on air control, air traffic audio from the night of the collision, controllers asked the pilots on that black hawk if they could see the american airlines flight because they had to pass behind it. and you can hear on that audio, the personnel that was on the helicopter give a verbal confirmation. the question is,
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were they looking at lights from a different aircraft? what exactly was the point of confusion there? hopefully, again, those voice recordings can answer some of those questions as to what exactly was going on. as for the salvage operation that is happening today, boris, you can see there is a massive crane in the potomac. they are currently pulling out the wreckage. big pieces of the plane, because they are still searching for 12 of those 67 victims who died in the crash, who have not yet been recovered and identified, 28 of those, 67 were members of the u.s. figure skating community. some of them were children. we're learning more about their stories, learning about 11 year old angela yang and 11 year old sean kay. they were an up and coming ice dance team, incredibly talented at their craft at such a young age. we've learned about brielle beyer. she was 12 years old, described by the figure skating community as
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spunky and polite and talented, and also about cory haynos. she was 15 years old. he landed a triple axel in front of his coaches in wichita just hours before the crash. these are just some of the stories. boris. some of those 67 stories all cut far too short by this tragedy. >> gabe cohen, thank you so much for the update. our thoughts obviously are with their families. thanks, brianna. >> and let's talk now with billy nolan, former acting faa administrator. he's currently the chief regulatory affairs officer for archer aviation incorporated. he also flew army helicopters and was a pilot for american airlines. billy, thanks for being with us. and maybe you can give us a sense of what we should be expecting here, because the ntsb will be holding a news conference here in the next few hours. they have this data recovered from the black hawk helicopter. they will be releasing. what information
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might we learn? what might we not learn? >> yeah. >> well, thank you for having me on today. >> i don't think. >> we will learn. >> today at this briefing that you will have a definitive answer. you know, once, once they've got the data off of the the black box for the, the black hawk, it will take them time to look at that, to transcribe that, to make sure that they've got that exactly right. and this is just a part of what's a very methodical process. and i know there's this really, really need and want for desire for answers. but it is critically important. we're on day five. you know, post this horrific accident. so but i can i can assure you that in the audience that the ntsb will move in the most, you know, expeditious manner. all, you know, in line with their protocol to make sure they get it right, you know, having voice data and the data from, you know, from the systems on board the helicopter, that
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will be, you know, what we will learn is just what the report has said, right? eventually what we hope to learn is did they indeed have the correct airplane in sight? if not, maybe they were looking at something else. so we should get more answers once that's available to the ntsb. >> there's also a discrepancy that has come out, and i just wonder what you make of it, because flight tracker data is showing that the helicopter was flying higher than it should have. it was reported that it was flying above its approved altitude of 200ft, which is what these all these helicopters that fly through this route are supposed to be at. preliminary data from ntsb shows the plane was flying at around 325ft, plus or -25ft. so then it would have been between 300 and 350ft. but then the data available to air traffic control showed the helicopter was at 200ft near the time of the accident. how do you break that down?
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>> yeah. so, you know, both of these both of these aircraft, both you know, the the american eagle? uh, kg7 this this 700 aircraft, the military helicopter, they've got, you know, systems on board that that report out their altitude and their position, et cetera.. so part of this discrepancy, of course, we've got the data from the airplane that shows it at approximately 325ft agl above above ground level. and it's, you know, 30, 35 40s away from landing. and then what we don't know yet is what needs to be confirmed is exactly the altitude of the helicopter. and and that data should be contained within the flight data recorder for the, for the helicopter itself. so i, i expect that once the, the ntsb feels comfortable that that that the data on board the helicopter is correct, they'll be able to
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report or give some sort of preliminary indication as to what that will be like. so, you know, that's what the investigation is designed to do, brianna, is to cut through all the things that we don't know and get to some really concrete answers here. >> yeah, hopefully we'll learn about that discrepancy. i know a lot of folks have focused in on that. billy, great to have you. thank you so much. >> thank you beth. >> coming up, president trump issuing an ominous threat. what he's saying about the panama canal. >> when it really philosophize about it, there's one thing you don't have enough of. and that's time. time is trul scarce. commodity. when you come to that realization, i think it's very important to spend time wisely. and what better way of spending time than traveling? continuing to educate ourselves and broaden our minds?
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press conference. what's the latest you've learned? >> boris? the main headline from that press conference that ended not too long ago is that while the number of people injured in this crash has gone up slightly, thankfully, the number of people who died in this crash has stayed at seven. i'll get to more of that in a bit, but i just want to tell you a little bit about what we actually saw today, because it's been a pretty active scene back here. secretary of transportation sean duffy visited the crash site today. he was joined with pennsylvania governor josh shapiro, philadelphia mayor cherelle parker and duffy said he was struck by just how expansive and deep the crater was that was left by that plane when it hit the ground here on cottman avenue. and he emphasized what we learned last night, what you just mentioned, boris, that the ntsb has indeed recovered that cockpit voice recorder from the medevac jet crash site. but it was eight feet underground in that crater. again, just another element of just how destructive this crash was. they were also able to recover an enhanced ground proximity warning system, which
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was really stunning. city and state officials actually acknowledged some of the hard conversations that folks have been having out here, that really, this could have been much worse. mayor cherelle parker getting emotional when thinking out loud. this plane could have hit a gas line. and you see so many buildings, businesses, homes around here, it's remarkable. this plane landed on the sidewalk. still no less of a tragedy here, but there's still more investigating that has to be done in order to figure out just what went so wrong. boris. >> jenny freeman live for us in philadelphia. danny, thank you so much for that update. meantime, what happens over the phone in the next few minutes could be the difference in whether the u.s. enters into a trade war. president trump and canadian prime minister justin trudeau, scheduled to speak at any minute. when we come back, we'll discuss the implications. >> cooked books, corporate fat cats, swindling socialites, doped up cyclists and yes, more crooked politicians. i have a feeling we won't be running out of those anytime soon. >> a new season of united states
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