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tonight elon musk makes his presence felt as he moves to terminate an entire federal agency with president trump cheering him on. congresswoman jasmine crockett is standing by to respond. plus, breaking immigration news tonight. el salvador's president now offering to put america's deported immigrants in its prisons. that includes u.s. citizens convicted of violent crimes. fear and defiance. also inside the j. edgar hoover building as the fbi gets ready for a major trump purge. so just how far are they planning to go? and will anyone stand in their way? tonight on laura coates live. well, it's day 15 of donald trump's second term, and we almost got into two trade wars while also watching elon musk press control alt delete on

an entire federal agency. yes, the world's richest man and doge leader. he's working to end the program responsible for delivering humanitarian aid all across the globe. now, he claims that usaid is a criminal organization and it's, quote, time for it to die, unquote. now, advocates argue that usaid saves lives around the globe. it treats diseases. it fights poverty. it responds to famines and natural disasters. it creates goodwill and promotes america's image abroad. now, that's the point that democratic lawmakers and protesters were trying to make outside the agency's headquarters. they say what trump and musk are doing is not even legal, because only congress can decide what happens to that agency. but that's not actually stopping the president or elon musk. trump says he doesn't need congress to scrap the agency, and the white house claims it's wastefully spending

on projects like these. >> $1.5 million to advance dei in serbia's workplaces, 70,000 for a production of a diy musical in ireland. 47,000 for a transgender opera in colombia. 32,000 for a transgender comic book in peru. i don't know about you, but as an american taxpayer, i don't want my dollars going towards this crap. and i know the american people don't either. and that's exactly what elon musk has been tasked by president trump to do. >> now, cnn can't verify all that, but we are learning more about what trump has tasked musk to do and how much power. well, he really has. now, he is what's known as a special government employee, and that means he's not a simple volunteer or an outside advisor. but it also means he's not a full time federal employee either. he has a top secret security clearance. he's got an office on the white house campus as well. now, the new york times

is reporting that he's even moved beds into offices a few blocks down down the road. why? so he and his staff can work late into the night. there's a lot, a lot of acts of someone who's not actually confirmed by the senate. he's even got control over the treasurys federal payment system. call it, if you will. america's checkbook. so who's checking his work? the man who hired him. >> mr. president, why is it important for elon musk to have access to the payment systems at treasury? >> well, he's got access only to letting people go that he thinks are no good. if we agree with him. and it's only if we agree with them. he's a very talented guy. from the standpoint of management and costs, and we put him in charge of seeing what he can do with certain groups and certain numbers. >> i want to bring in democratic congressman from texas, jasmine crockett. she serves as the vice

ranking member of the house oversight committee, is also part of a congressional subcommittee that will work with musk's doge. congresswoman, thank you so much for joining me this evening. there is a lot to unpack, especially the title he has as a special government employee. would that give him the right to be able to access the treasury department's payment system, or even usaid? >> no. absolutely not. i like that you laid out the description of the type of employee he is. this is the first that i'm actually hearing of it. we thought that this may have been his classification. with this classification, you normally are not allowed to run anything. absolutely not. so that's already exceeding the scope of what you're allowed to do with this type of classification. that's number one. number two, with this type of classification, you're looking at maybe about 120 days. this isn't somebody that is supposed to be on full time forever. so maybe that's why he wants to sleep on the job, because he knows that it's supposed to expire. but right now we have an administration that could care less about what the courts say that they can do.

they could care less about what the law says. they could care less about the constitution. and so i think that we have to understand that we are not dealing with normal people. we are dealing with someone who has proven to be a criminal, proven to be disrespectful to us as americans. and listen, we have to fight him the exact same way. we have to come back with the same type of energy, which means that if you want to play ball, then i'm ready to play ball. listen, you guys decided to do this while the house was out. well, the house is back in as of tomorrow, and i can guarantee you there will be some spicy things that i will be up to tomorrow because i am a duly elected member of the u.s. house, and we will have some things that we are trying to do. as of today. we know that, um, well. >> like what? for example. >> so ranker meeks, who is the ranker for foreign affairs, he filed a privilege motion as it relates to this trade war, which, of course, trump has allegedly resolved that very

quickly. but he was exceeding his emergency powers. he was misusing his emergency powers to try to engage in this anyway. so at this point in time, if we've got to file privilege motions, if we've got to do amicus briefs, if we've got to physically show up some places and ask some questions, because you can't keep us out, you may be able to say to, um, whomever is running security somewhere that you're going to keep employees out. but as a sitting member of congress, especially one that serves on oversight, and i've got oversight over the entire federal government, you're not going to keep me out of anything. >> well, one of the things that's been happening in terms of playing ball has been federal unions have been suing to block musk's ability to actually access the sensitive data for the treasury. congress obviously a different position than a litigant. an average litigant. what could the democrats do specifically, as opposed to being in the majority, to actually try to combat this? it doesn't sound like there's the largest of appetites among republicans to say that the mandate may have been for you to serve in office, but not to have

this wide scope of authority for a non-elected official. >> well, i'm definitely going to say that the mandate wasn't there at all. the numbers are really small, kind of like his crowds. so i'm not going to say that there was a mandate. but what i will say is that it is time for us to stand shoulder to shoulder with those that are going to file those lawsuits. we've got to make sure that they know that we are giving them access to our constituents, making sure that they know these are the stories of our constituents. these are the ones that are willing to testify about the fear that they are living through. i get emails consistently about people saying, what the heck is going on? and here's the reality. the reason that you have to have a certain level of clearance before you can engage in these types of actions, or you may even have to be confirmed in some way, is because really, you can cause a lot of harm and no one has explained. listen, if your whole job is to figure out where we can cut money, then sit down and look at the budget and

say line by line, listen, mr. president, what you should do is in your proposed budget that you send over to the congress, you should cut this. you should cut that the same way that he decided during his first term that he was going to zero out money for hbcus. and doctor adams had to come and fight to get that money for hbcus back. >> i will note that if you are a special government employee, there are limitations for when you have to file disclosure or ethics. if you exceed a certain amount of time, it triggers even more oversight over who you are for the reasons you're talking about. but i want to get to a new appointment that seems to be happening. president trump is appointing darren beattie to a top state department role. i know many people remember who darren beattie is. he was fired in 2018 from being a speechwriter. he was speaking at a conference attended by white nationalists. and then a few months ago, he posted this congresswoman competent white men must be in charge if you

want things to work. unfortunately, our entire national ideology is predicated on coddling the feelings of women and minorities and demoralizing competent white men. your reaction to his appointment? >> he needs to go. i mean, this is very simple. we right now have a white supremacist that is sitting in the white house. he is backed up by other white supremacists. and if you really want to know who the criminals are in this country, you can google it. you don't have to trust me. but the people that commit 80% of the most violent crimes in this country are white supremacists. yet for whatever reason, they sit and they serve at the pleasure of the president. they are the ones that were there on january 6th, tearing our democracy down physically. and now we have them tearing us down right here from within. here is the problem. >> of course, congresswoman. interrupted you, but president

trump, of course, has denied any allegations. he is a white supremacist, and that's why he apparently fired what he is. i know, i know your point, but he did fire darren beattie in reaction. they believe in part to his attendance at that conference. does that change your opinion in. >> any way? no, it doesn't change my opinion because we saw what he literally recently just posted. and the coddling is for the white boys. that's what's happening right now. i am tired of the white tears. listen, if you are competent, you are not concerned. when i walk into congress every single day, you know why i don't feel away and why you can't make me doubt who i am is because i know that i had to work ten times as hard as they did just to get into the seat. when you look and you compare me to marjorie taylor greene or me to lauren boebert, there is no comparison. and that is the life that we have always lived. so the only people that are crying are the mediocre white boys that have been beaten out by people that historically have had to work so, so much harder. this is why they don't want us to have education. this is why they are trying to

literally say we won't fund the hbcus because they know that if they've already gone after affirmative action and they're saying, you know what? don't allow them to come in to say these, these pwis, as we call them, don't allow them to come into these institutions. we know why they created the hbcus in the first place. it was because they wouldn't allow us into the white institutions. and so now they're not allowing us in. and now they're saying, you know what? we're also going to defund the hbcus. you know why? because they don't want any more kamala harris's. they don't want any more jasmine crockett. but i got news for them. i don't care what they do. we will fight to the end to make sure that we get our due. because again, if you want to talk about the people that shouldn't be in this country, you probably need to look in the mirror. because the last time i checked, the native americans who some of i.c.e. have been rounding up, or the puerto ricans who are absolutely americans, listen, the only people that came and colonized

this place are your ancestors. trump. >> i'll note that the bd position is for the acting undersecretary for public diplomacy and public affairs, a key role in helping to shape u.s. messaging abroad related to counterterrorism and violent extremism. thank you, congresswoman, for your words tonight and for your insight. we are just minutes away from entering into what could very well be a new and costly trade war with china. at the stroke of midnight, just about 45 minutes away, a 10% tariff on all imported goods from china will take effect. it's what trump today called an opening salvo, meaning he could escalate tariffs if he thinks china isn't doing enough to stop fentanyl from entering this country. and what that means for you at home is the potential for higher costs. and if you're wondering, well, what about mexico? what about canada? well, those tariffs happen to be on ice tonight because trump agreed to pause those for 30 days. some

modest concessions from the two countries he was able to receive. and mexico said that it would deploy 10,000 troops to the border, which i should note it has done before. and canada said it would keep its promise to enact a previously announced billion dollar border security plan, along with appointing a fentanyl czar and labeling cartels as terrorists. joining me now, senior columnist for yahoo finance's rick newman. rick, thank you for joining. trump says that he's going to talk to the president xi in the next i think 24 hours. but assuming assuming there's no deal. how worried should people be at home about the impact of these tariffs on china? >> they are going to raise prices here for people who are confused about this. i mean, there's really no no way around it. this is straightforward. a tariff is a tax that the american importer pays to the u.s. treasury. and then the importer typically tries to pass

along that higher cost to everybody who purchases those products, whether it's happening in the supply chain for components of other finished goods or it's finished products like clothing or toasters or appliances or things like that. so this is just going to be basically a 10% increase in the cost of virtually all imports from china for as for as long as it stays in effect. now to put this in perspective, it would have been a lot worse if trump left those tariffs on on mexico and canada in place, because we import a lot more from mexico and canada combined than we do from china. and trump was talking about a 25% tariff there, not just a 10% tariff. that's why we saw a big sell off at the beginning of the day in the stock market today, and then stocks regained some ground once this all worked its way out. and it turns out we're not going to get canada and mexico, but markets are going to have to grapple with imports from china. and prices are going to go up by a little bit.

>> you know, the market did flinch, as you say. they did recover after the pause was announced, with mexico and canada. but i wonder if the fear is actually over now, especially if you're one of the business owners who rely on goods out of canada and mexico. is that flinch at all comforting? >> it's a it's a momentary reprieve. but i mean, wall street and the business community are basically trying to figure out every day what's coming next. what is trump going to do next? how much of this does he really mean, and how much of it is theater? so, um, you know what a lot of the wall street analysts think is going to happen is kind of what we saw today. so they guessed right on this first round. and they're guess all along has been that trump is going to threaten fairly severe tariffs. but there are going to be these last minute negotiations where we're going to wriggle out from under them. now it's just unknown if if trump is maybe he will impose tariffs on mexico and canada one month from today. what we do know, however, and especially from trump's first term, is

that he is sensitive to what happens in financial markets and especially the stock market today. so we got the stock market down about 1.5% before we heard that there was going to be a delay in the mexico tariff. so maybe that's trump's red line, maybe a stock selloff of 1.5% or 2% is enough to make trump be the one who blinks. >> we'll see. rick newman, thank you so much. the markets were watching, as are the american consumers. let's talk about this now and continue the conversation with cnn political analyst and white house correspondent for pbs newshour, laura, also former senior adviser to the trump/vance 2024 presidential campaign, brian lanza and cnn political commentator and former senior spokesperson for hillary clinton's 2016 presidential campaign, karen finney. glad to have all of you here. okay, let's start with these tariffs, because of course, i did say that i think shoes are going to be impacted by this. so i'm particularly interested, brian, in all this. the white house press secretary saying that canada is bending the knee just

like mexico. but by the way, that deal was on the table back in december. so why why engage the allies in this way? >> you know, listen, i think it's important to understand that next year, usmca, the sort of the trade agreement between the north american countries is up for another renegotiation. and the reason it's up for renegotiation is when it was first negotiated during trump, renegotiated during trump, there were components that none of the countries could agree on, specifically, mexico and canada said no to the u.s. on some key enforcement components. and so we went forward without we went with the new usmca, without the key components of enforcement. we're now coming to that window where we can renegotiate, and trump is trying to soften them up, whether they're allies or not. they're trying to soften them up. the canadians and the mexicans, so that when we get to the usmca, we can actually trigger the component conversation that was avoided in 20 2018. so i think it's important, you know, obviously we're renegotiating usmca. we all want it. we have huge benefits from it. but there are key components that that that, you know, allow the chinese to

cheat. they allow the chinese to subsidize, you know, manufacturing facilities built in mexico. and those cars or those manufacturing products get brought into the united states. we didn't settle it last time. we want to settle it this time. and the way to show to the canadians that we're serious and the way to show the mexicans are serious and say, listen, this is what's going to happen. we're not going to tolerate you guys piling up against us to make sure the enforcement components of trade is not going to take place. >> we're going to play hardball from the very beginning, from our from our face. >> can we start with the fact that he basically got things that were already in place? so joe biden got 15,000 troops to the u.s. border, like with a phone call. he didn't have to have all this market chaos to make that happen. and similarly, think about what's when you have which i hear if i buy your argument, you could also say, okay, but trump is going to be negotiating with a different leader in mexico this time than he did last time. how about a phone call before you go threatening everybody and make, you know, creating fear and chaos? and similarly, in canada, justin trudeau is gone. so he

just cut a deal with a guy who ain't even going to be there. what is the impetus for the new person to not feel like they have to flex to trump? i just but here's the bottom line. this is just chaos and pain. that is what we have seen in the two weeks that two and a half weeks that trump has been in office, and yet not a thing done to lower americans costs. not one thing. in fact, we're talking about adding to our costs with these tariffs. and by repealing the decisions that joe biden made to lower the cost, for example, of prescription drugs, he's actually already increased people's costs. >> you know, the person who's charged with, in part, government inefficiency, obviously. doge, i can't help but think about elon musk because i keep wondering about his level of influence in the white house right now. obviously, usaid, laura, he had said, we're shutting it down just this morning. he said that people are getting notifications, don't even show up to headquarters today as well. secretary of state marco

rubio now says that he is the acting director of usaid. so what does this tell you about the influence of musk? he's not elected. we know he's a special government employee. is his role far deeper than anyone even knows? >> yes, i believe it is just based on all of the sources that i've talked to across the government. i mean, elon musk, in the span of, what, a few weeks and especially in the span of the last few days, has been able to access the office of personnel management, which is the government's hr. he's been able to access. i reported today the small business administration systems asking doge to get access to the payment systems there. and then there's also the access to the treasury payment systems, which has personal information on millions of americans. doge has access to that. and then you get to usaid, which is they have they access classified areas over the last few days, multiple sources have said, and yes, there's a lot of turmoil. i mean, federal workers and usaid

sources that i've talked to say that they're really concerned about what this means abroad. they're fighting currently fighting an ebola outbreak. and in addition to that, they have some stationed in ukraine and in somalia. and they're worried that as the u.s. pulls back and doesn't provide food or doesn't provide aid to these countries and communities in need, that that leaves an opening for china and russia. >> you know, there is news as well. speaking of secretary of state marco rubio, that just came in and want to alert everyone. he is now announcing tonight that el salvador is set to not only accept u.s. deportees of any nationality, but also convicted u.s. citizens for a fee at their mega prison. cnn's david culver was granted exclusive access only major outlet at the time, by the way, to even see inside. that's unprecedented. of course, the idea of this happening, brian, what is behind this agreement that the americans would send

even their own citizens to one of these mega prisons? >> well, it appears to be cost. i mean, first of all, the el salvador president knew exactly how to appeal to president trump. there's a reason he's offering this outreach, because he knows what president trump wants to prioritize, and that's mass deportations. you know, they have economic needs that they need. they have economic and political priorities that el salvador needs. and they want to wrap themselves with president trump to sort of offer that shield to help achieve their goals. so what do they do? what all diplomacies do? they reach out to the president and see where they can align and see where they can offer help. >> they say, i'll take your own for a fee. that's that. that's pretty unprecedented. >> it's supremely unprecedented. but that will that's clearly going to stand out. president trump's going to say, here's an ally who's willing to help the united states at this difficult time and offer a cost saving measures. taxpayers, they're going to they're going to weigh in. i suspect taxpayers want the money saved. now, the difference is, is, you know, you know, there's going to be prison advocates who say you can't really remove them from the united states. they need access to all these other united states.

>> those are called constitutional advocates say that's on that point. but. >> the constitution. >> but what's your reaction to this? i mean, obviously, last weekend we heard about people turning away planes and trump leaning in and allowing and enforcing the idea of persuading them know they will land. they will land on your soil. you will have repatriation of your own citizens. now, it's the idea of u.s. citizens as well, and not for nothing. we have a problem with the private industrial complex of prisons where people certainly have a a wallet at stake for all of these things, unfortunately. but what's your reaction tonight to this? >> well, i think the lobbyists in that big prison industrial complex, i don't think they're going to let it happen. but it's a smart political play by the government of el salvador to get a nice little. i mean, we're talking about it on cable. we're watching it. we weren't going to be talking about el salvador. right. if this hadn't happened. but again, i think let's go back to the big picture. you know, this is about chaos and pain. and i don't i don't think that's going to end anytime soon. and a lot there are a lot

of people who are very anxious. and so far trump has shown he's not able to govern efficiently and effectively. when you've got el salvador saying, give me your tired, your poor, your huddled criminals. >> well, i think trump would have the opposite response that this is, in his mind, working. we'll see what actually, indeed does. thank you everyone. up next, the makings of a dramatic new purge at the fbi. thousands of agents on edge after being asked to fill out a controversial survey that some fear could be seen as a loyalty test. the questions they were asked and why some worried the answers could very well cost them their job. plus, new tonight, a major win for president trump as cbs news gives the fcc the transcript behind that infamous 60 minutes kamala harris interview. new reporting tonight on what happens next.

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about its agents actions. in january 6th investigation. questions like, were you a supervisor? what division were you in and what was your role? you know, some agents, they're pushing back. a group representing thousands of agents imploring congress and president trump to, quote, prevent acting officials from taking personnel actions that undermine our shared goal of keeping the fbi out of politics. one top member of the fbi new york field office refusing to cave to pressure writing, quote. today we find ourselves in the middle of a battle of our own. time for me to dig in and some lawyers now representing federal agents are warning that they'll take the doj to court if mass firings happen. but trump he's vowing to push forward with the doj makeover. >> well, i think the fbi was a very corrupt institution. and i'm a i'm a victim of it in a true sense. i was able to beat it. but other people have been

treated horribly. i think the fbi has a great reputation, had a great reputation. i think its reputation was really damaged badly, as is doj. >> so there is no evidence of widespread corruption within the bureau and agents. they do not have a choice in what cases they are assigned. with me now, justice and fbi reporter for the new york times, devlin barrett and retired fbi special agent pete lapp. i'll begin with you, pete. what does this feel like hearing about this? this forthcoming purge? >> yeah. my heart breaks for my fellow colleagues, my former fellow colleagues. five years ago, i retired, and if i were there, i wonder what i would be doing and how i would be feeling, you know, wondering if i'm about to be walked out for doing my job, you know, for opening lawfully predicated investigations, for responding to the largest investigation in fbi history. i do wonder if i would be a part of that group that is sleeping tonight, wondering if i'm going to be

walked out tomorrow by the executive branch that i've worked for. and the oath that i've taken to support defend the united states. it would be a question i'd be wondering myself, frankly. >> devlin, what is the question i have is what will it be like tomorrow when that deadline hits? >> so i. >> think the indication so far is that the bureau leadership is going to turn over the list of employees that the doj has asked for. they've called it a lawful order, which suggests they feel they have to go through with it. i think the real question becomes there have been some discussions about after they get the list, will doj then demand the firing of hundreds of fbi employees? and i think that's the part where you may see a real intense conflict between the fbi and the justice department. if the justice department leadership currently goes through with that idea. >> is there concerns that you might have about even that list going out? i mean, what happens about it being publicized further? >> well, we've already seen agents in other investigations involving the former president,

now president. they've been doxxed. their names have been released as and not by the government, by by the other side. and they've been subject to significant amount of harassment. their their families have been threatened as a result of that. there are real concerns about their safety if their names come out publicly as part of the january 6th investigation. so i absolutely would have concerns about that if i was the agents, the professional support, or especially their families. they're just doing their job. >> well, again, they're not they don't get to choose. yeah. i'll take that case. no, not for me. they have their assigned matters. but on this point, there's got to be a chilling effect. there's got to be the point that there's a fear. if you have done something that goes against this president or perceived as such. be careful. >> yes. and there's tremendous anxiety within the fbi right now. people don't know what's going to happen. there are over the weekend, certainly there were all sorts of rumors flying around. the other thing i think is really important to remember is donald trump's criticism and

his supporters criticism of the fbi has long been that the leadership of the fbi is the problem, that if we could get the right leaders in the top of the bureau, it would it would not do the bad things we don't like anymore. but what they're talking about right now is not i mean, they've definitely gone after the leadership, but what they're talking about right now is going after brick agents. what they're talking about right now is going after people who were given an order. they did what they were supposed to do. and no one has made an allegation of misconduct against any of these people. and so it does have a chilling effect, potentially. i think it already has had a chilling effect. it's only a question, i think, how much more of a chilling effect might there be? >> gosh, i'm old enough to remember when they didn't want fishing expeditions. devlin barrett, pete lap, thank you both so much. up next tonight, a major development in transcript gate 60 minutes, giving the fcc the transcript of their campaign interview with vice president kamala harris on the on the

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have time to do you first time consignors get $100 extra. terms apply new tonight cbs has given the fcc the transcript and tapes from last october's 60 minutes interview with then presidential candidate kamala harris. >> cbs saying it was, quote, legally compelled to comply with the fcc's demand. the fcc says it's only acting upon a complaint from a conservative group who accused the network of distorting her answer. the gripe is similar to the core of trump's $10 billion lawsuit against cbs, which alleges that

60 minutes, quote, doctored the interview to put harris in a more favorable light and help her win the presidential election. the moment in question comes when harris was asked why israel's prime minister, benjamin netanyahu was, quote, not listening to the united states. the lawsuit alleges cbs released a clip of the interview to cbs face the nation that was different than what aired on 60 minutes. here's that clip it seems that. >> prime minister netanyahu. >> is not. >> listening well. bill. >> the work that we have done has. resulted in a number of movements in that region by israel that were. >> very much prompted by. >> or a. >> result of many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region. >> and here's what actually aired on 60 minutes. >> it seems that prime minister

netanyahu is not listening. >> we are not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for the united states to be clear about where we stand on the need for this war to end. >> the trump campaign alleges the edit was done to help harris. cbs responded, saying both clips were from the same answer and the lawsuit is meritless. i want to bring in cnn's chief media analyst, brian stelter, who spoke to trump's new fcc chair today. brian, you spoke with chairman brendan carr about his request for the transcript and also videos of kamala harris's interview and, of course, the free speech concerns. what did he tell you? >> yeah, he said this was a rare case, a case of a complaint against cbs for quote unquote news distortion, which is something the fcc is allowed to investigate. he said he has to see the tapes in order to know if cbs is telling the truth here. i think it is fair to say that someone at cbs screwed up back in october. this was a poor editing decision because it

stirred up lots of doubts about what harris said. one part aired on a sunday, the other part aired on monday. this was a mess, but that's all it was. it was editing. it wasn't a conspiracy to help harris and hurt trump, and that's what it's been turned into by trump's team. the fact that his pick for the fcc has decided to investigate this. it shows that everything based on a faulty premise is being taken very seriously by the trump administration. and as a result, a news network, cbs, is being told to hand over its raw materials. its edited, unedited transcript and tapes. that is a remarkable moment. and there are a lot of people, including some former fcc leaders, who say the government should not be doing this at all, should just. butt out. >> well, a settlement, if that should come there. it would be viewed widely, pretty much as a capitulation on the part of the cbs and their parent company, paramount. and there's important context we're having to do with with paramount in particular. what is it? >> yes. paramount global is in the midst of trying to merge

with skydance. this is the company, paramount behind paramount plus and nickelodeon and mtv and cbs. it is trying to get a big deal through in order to get the deal approved, it has to get approval from the trump administration, from brendan carr, and from other trump administration officials. so paramount is trying to settle. they are trying to settle trump's lawsuit, and they're going ahead and agreeing to this request to hand over the tapes and the transcript. it has the appearance of a payoff where they are doing what the trump administration wants, and in exchange, they're going to get the deal approved. is this the price of doing business in the trump era? it may well be. this is why many people inside cbs news are very uncomfortable right now, because they feel like their parent company is caving in. >> you know, this actually comes on the back of abc news $15 million settlement with the president. meta also agreed to a $22 million payout over another trump lawsuit. the question, many are wondering is, will this have a chilling effect on

coverage of trump? is that the point? >> and a chilling effect is exactly what some trump voters want to see. it is certainly what some of these trump appointees want to see. however, i think ultimately it's up to viewers and readers to determine for themselves. are they noticing a change? are they noticing a difference in the news coverage? personally, i watched abc tonight, i watched cbs, i saw some hard hitting coverage and some scoops about the trump dysfunction and upheaval in government. so there's great journalism being produced, but the readers and the viewers, the viewers of this program, have to be on guard right now to watch out for any sign of people losing their backbones and caving in to these government, uh, attempts at harassment. >> well said. it's up to the viewers to be extra vigilant and observant of what they are seeing in their own democracy. also, news corp owner rupert murdoch, apparently he was dropping by the oval office today. his company owns, as you know, both fox news and the wall street journal, which published an editorial titled the dumbest

trade war in history. now, trump was asked that today and asked about it. listen. >> the deal with mexico this morning was that a partially related to the market reaction and a criticism from mr. murdoch's own newspaper. he called it the dumbest trade war on the on the editorial page on saturday. >> i'm going to have to talk to him. >> about that. >> i've been right over the wall street journal many times. i will tell you, i don't agree with him on some things. no, it's not only is it not dumb, you're going to see, you're going to see. >> why was murdoch even at the white house today? >> you know rupert murdoch, he wants access to power. he wants to be where the action is. he wants to bend the ear of the president. so he got what he wanted today. but so did president trump because trump was able to poke him, rib him, maybe even embarrass him a little bit. talking about the wall street journal, murdoch is out with a new editorial tonight. it's titled trump blinks on north american tariffs, essentially saying that the president is pausing after only minor concessions. so so

rupert murdoch continues to be against trump's tariffs. but bigger picture here, rupert murdoch is an example of what's happened to many millions of republicans in the united states after january 6th. we know from rupert murdoch's emails that were obtained by dominion in that lawsuit that he was horrified by trump. he wanted to make trump a non-person. he didn't want to hear the word donald trump ever again. and now, four years later, rupert murdoch back in the oval office trying to repair his relationship with trump because he wants to be where the power is. he wants to be where the action is. and that's where rupert murdoch finds himself again today. >> and doing it with a smile. brian stelter, thank you so much. ahead, two hollywood stars, two very different accusations in the battle between blake lively and justin baldoni is getting more heated by the day. the judge's message to their attorneys next break my stride.

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>> news for you returns february 15th on cnn. >> a real life hollywood drama is playing out in court today. that's right. lawyers for blake lively and justin baldoni meeting in court for the very first time. at the first hearing for a lawsuit. embroiling the stars of the hit movie. it ends with us. the film centers around a woman in an abusive, intimate relationship with her husband. >> what happened? >> you fell. >> down. >> the stairs. no no no, don't don't don't don't don't touch. you tripped, and i. i tried to catch you. you're you're you're okay. you're okay. >> lively is suing baldoni. she claims he sexually harassed her on set, then launched a secret smear campaign to damage her reputation. baldoni denies the allegations. he argues that lively and her superstar husband, ryan reynolds, are

trying to defame and extort him with her claims. but during today's hearing, a judge told lawyers on both sides to stop fighting the case in the media and save it for the courtroom. joining me now to delve into the drama, kim masters, former editor at large for the hollywood reporter and now a partner at pwc, and neymar rahmani, former federal prosecutor and president of west coast trial lawyers. kim, to begin with you, this case has gotten very messy, to say the very least. on the surface, it sounds similar to a metoo type of case. what's really at the heart of the matter here? >> there are allegations flowing. >> back and forth. >> it started out with blake lively accusing justin baldoni in a big a big article in the in the new york times. sorry, my dog is unhappy and he then counterattacked. and there were allegations against their publicists. there's now a web. he wants to sue the new york

times. there's he's trying. he is fighting for his professional life. she obviously has either feels this very sincerely or. there's perhaps another motive. but going after him, hammer and tong, and looking to obliterate him, it's a very dicey thing from a public relations point of view, because the allegations are so confusing, so back and forth. so he said she said it's not like a clear cut thing where we know exactly he assaulted her. there's no allegation that he did that. so i think it's not helping anybody's, um, anybody's reputation. >> you can't miss a headline. it's all over and people are trying to piece together, but they're using a particular website as well. and neymar, a lot of this has played out in the media. one of the parties, baldoni, actually has a devoted website to try to, he believes, is expose that which he thought was cherry picked in the new york times article and beyond the judge, he could have issued a gag order, but he didn't. why

not? >> the judge didn't, laura. and that was a big. win for. >> baldoni's team. >> the judge said. this is phil lyman that essentially the parties just have to comply with the local rule 3.6 there in new york. that says that the lawyers shouldn't make extrajudicial statements that may substantially impair the jury pool. but the damage has already been done on both sides. and obviously lively came out first and filed her lawsuit, gave a copy to the new york times with some text messages. but baldoni has made an extraordinary comeback, and kim talked about this being a case not just for the courtroom, but the court of public opinion. this is to save baldoni's career, and he's really made an extraordinary comeback. if i were to guess, you know, 80 to maybe even 90% of people now support baldoni. this is after he was canceled, essentially was dropped by william morris agency. he had a lawyers. he had a woman's award that was rescinded because of

these allegations. but now because of what has been put on this website by brian friedman, his lawyer, it has the amended complaint, it has the full text messages. we've seen the video of them dancing on the rooftop. the voice note that he sent lively. i think folks are now coming to baldoni's side in this case. >> well, that's. and ironically, kim, part of what her concerns have been in her suit, that there was a public smear campaign targeted for that very reason to ensure that she would not be looked upon favorably. and she is not fighting alone in this matter. i would say her husband, the actor ryan reynolds. he is right there with her. how is this impacting reputationally? how they are viewed in hollywood along with baldoni's? >> you know, ryan reynolds had the most. immaculate reputation smart, funny, just perfect. and he, you know, an amazing career. blake lively has been seen in a less favorable light. and she

could say, well, people are unfair to women. but on the other hand, you've seen things. for example, an interview with a norwegian journalist where she was really quite unpleasant that started making the rounds immediately when this got underway, an old interview. so she didn't have that perfect reputation. i think there's a risk to ryan reynolds. he's standing by his wife, which is maybe fine, but if if people start to feel and i'm not so sure that everybody is on team baldoni now, but if people start to feel like, oh, are these two bullying? baldoni and ryan reynolds is such a big star, and they got their agency to drop baldoni. is this fair? it just creates this confusion again, which is not good for anybody. and i'm not so sure that justin baldoni comes back for this from this. i think he's trying his best. but with this kind of mess, i think people just feel like in the industry don't want to necessarily even touch any of this with a ten foot pole, not including ryan reynolds, because of course, he's a huge star. >> we'll see how all of it

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