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of the new republican immigration push, and a big reason more immigrants think it's best to stay in the shadows. >> and john king is with us now. john, i was always good at geography, and i know that nebraska is not a border state. so why did you choose to go there? to focus on immigration? >> a couple of reasons. as we expand the project now to look at the midterms and how the trump policy impacts the country, not just in blue states or swing states, but also in red states. remember, yes, nebraska is red, but it has that don bacon district near omaha, a republican who won the district that kamala harris carried in the race for president. that's number one. number two, it is a red state, right? is donald trump willing to disrupt his farmer friends? is he willing to disrupt the meatpacking industry by doing this? so we want to test trump policies as we look forward. yes, mostly in swing states, but also in places that will have competitive elections and that have fascinating stories. >> i look forward to hearing so many more of them. john king, you've been so helpful tonight. thanks so much for being with
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us. the news continues right here on cnn. >> it's wednesday, february 5th, right now on cnn. >> this morning. >> the u.s. will take over the gaza strip, will own it. >> a stunning proposal to take over the gaza strip, potentially with. >> american troops in a plan that could permanently relocate millions of palestinians, plus a major makeover. the cia offering the entire agency a buyout. just how far will the president go to reshape the nation's top agencies? >> and i want the states to run schools, and i want linda to put herself out of a job. >> shutting it down. president trump lays the groundwork for his promise to close the doors at the department of education. all right. it's 5 a.m. here on
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the east coast. this a live look at southern gaza. that's rafah that you are looking at. it is about noon, just a little bit after noon. there in gaza. the focus, of course, here on the east coast as well. good morning everyone. i'm kasie hunt. it's wonderful to have you with us. quote the riviera of the middle east, end quote, president donald trump, detailing his vision for transforming the gaza strip, a move that would potentially derail decades of u.s. diplomacy that has been aimed at stabilizing the region. while he was meeting with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, president trump restated his proposal for neighboring nations to take in palestinians, while the u.s. takes over gaza. >> i would like to see jordan. i'd like to see egypt take some. look, the gaza thing has not worked. it's never worked. i think they'd love to leave gaza if they had an option. right now, they don't have an
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option. the u.s. will take over the gaza strip, and we will do a job with it, too. we'll own it and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded bombs and other weapons on the site. level the site and get rid of the destroyed buildings, level it out, create an economic development that will supply unlimited numbers of jobs and housing for the people of the area. >> reaction from both sides of the aisle quickly pouring in. the reaction to what would be a seismic shift in u.s. policy. three republican senators who spoke to cnn, senator lindsey graham, called it, quote, an interesting proposal. he added, quote, it might be problematic. senator thom tillis suggesting there are, quote, probably a couple kinks in that slinky. and senator john cornyn says, check back with me tomorrow. delaware senator chris, seen here
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covering his face in disbelief as reporters told him about trump's idea for the first time, had this to say. >> you can report that i was speechless. i'm speechless. that's insane. i can't think of a place on earth that would welcome american troops less. and where any positive outcome is less likely. this is between offensive and insane. and dangerous and foolish. >> major actors in the region also responding overnight, the terror group hamas, which governs gaza, released a statement calling trump's proposal a, quote recipe for creating chaos and tension in the region before adding our people in the gaza strip will not allow these plans to pass. but far right lawmakers in israel are hailing the u.s. president, the former national security minister, ben gvir, writing on the platform formerly known as twitter, quote donald, this looks like the beginning of a beautiful friendship. joining us now to discuss avi mayer, the former editor in chief at the jerusalem post. avi, good
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morning. the terms of our conversation, considerably different than the many that we've had about the war that's been ongoing for the last number of months because of what we heard from president trump in the oval office. i think my big question is simply, is this something that is real? is this a real proposal? or is this one of those situations where donald trump is putting something out there that lays out a negotiating position and relates to other things that ultimately he wants to see play out in a region or place. i mean, we've seen it with the tariffs lately with canada and mexico. now, obviously, this was stunning to everyone who heard it here in the united states yesterday. how is it being received in israel, and what's your view of the actual realism to this versus bluster and negotiating tactic? >> well, casey, good morning. look, i've been an observer of this region for many years. i
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did not have this on my bingo card. i really reversing decades of u.s. policy, declaring that the u.s. will take over the gaza strip after it is emptied of its 1.8 million residents, will level it, develop it, and turn it into a hub of housing and employment. is a remarkable, i would say. i agree with you. stunning statement from the president of the united states. and i think your question is exactly the right one. is this his actual position now? does he really believe that he's going to invest the human capital, the financial resources, the diplomatic weight that will be necessary to bring this about? or is this some kind of opening gambit in a long run effort to bring about some kind of grand vision, some deal that he's been talking about regarding iran and saudi arabia and israel? my instinct, my rational instinct is to say the latter. but donald trump is an unpredictable guy,
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and this may be his actual position. we'll have to see what the next few weeks and months bring. >> so, avi, let's say that this is him executing the art of the deal just because i think it's a little easier to imagine how this might play out than it is to imagine the entire gaza strip being cleared, palestinians being moved elsewhere, and the whole thing becoming mar-a-lago on the med. um, but if in fact, this is something that has to do with negotiating, can you sort of talk a little bit about the question around normalizing israeli relationships, especially with saudi arabia, in a way that would take on iran? because and correct me if i'm wrong here, but my understanding of the situation is that the saudi demands for that include a two state solution for israel and palestine. and that, of course, is something that's not tenable on the right in israeli politics anymore. so if trump
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puts this out there as his negotiating position to start with, the ultimate goal of normalization, something that he worked on, you know, set up with the abraham accords and other and other things. how does that impact potentially getting to a place where israel and saudi arabia, essentially, you know, lay down their arms in the joint effort to take on iran? >> look, you know, i don't know that there are many people in this region who look at gaza and the west bank and say, we're ready for a palestinian state. i think there's broad recognition that even if that is the ultimate goal, it's not going to happen anytime in the near future. but you're right that saudi arabia has said that a pathway towards a palestinian state is a prerequisite for any kind of normalization arrangement with israel. it's possible that the president is putting this out there as this very dramatic statement that he will then withdraw from in exchange for some kind of movement by saudi arabia in the
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direction of normalization, even absent the establishment of a palestinian state that has been a large priority of his for many years now. of course, it's a priority for prime minister netanyahu as well. and they of course, they all share the same goal of containing the prospect of a nuclear armed iran. that is not a reality, that any of the rational actors in this region, or, quite frankly, the world want to see. and it's possible that this is president's effort to push the region in that direction. >> well, i have a feeling there are a number of conversations between you and i set for the future about this. so, avi, i always appreciate having you on the show. really appreciate your level headed expertise on all things. so thanks for being here with us. i appreciate it. >> thank you. have a great day. >> all right. straight ahead here on cnn this morning making good on a campaign promise. president trump taking on transgender athletes in women's sports. plus buyout offers, ominous emails, questions being raised over possible mass layoffs at critical federal agencies and a teacher's union pushes back as the president
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expected to impact all u.s. educational institutions that receive federal funding. the signing, coinciding with national girls and women in sports day. it also fulfills a promise that helped fuel president trump's campaign for the white house. >> we will, of course, keep men out of women's sports. who would want men playing in women's sports? they want it. who would want? transgender operations? for almost everybody in the world? they want them. >> joining me now is julie manchester, national political reporter for the hill. julia, good morning to you. this is what nancy mace tweeted about this. tomorrow will be at the white house as the president signs an executive order to protect women's sports, a ban transgender women from playing in on women's sports teams. maga is the new feminist, she says. we hold the line because women are counting on it. obviously, she has made this something that she has used to gain a lot of media attention.
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but bottom line, what do we expect from the president today on this and what real world impact is it going to have on the, we should say, very few number of people that this would apply to? >> yeah, that's absolutely true. remember in utah, a state with a republican governor, we know that governor spencer cox vetoed legislation at one point that would have banned transgender women in sports in that state, saying that there was only evidence of what? for trans people playing on women's sports teams. so there's a real question of what kind of impact it has. but look for the president, for his team. they say this is promises made, promises kept. this is a campaign issue. they really touted throughout the campaign. and then following the campaign, you heard a lot of democrats actually saying we should have been more aware of this issue and messaging and responding to this issue. there are numerous polls that show that a majority of americans are opposed to trans women or trans people playing on women's sports teams. however, members of the
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trans community advocates would say that's because there hasn't been enough messaging and education around this issue. but i think we're seeing this issue becoming much more mainstream and how americans look at it. and you're seeing the president take executive action. >> on it. well, the messaging war clearly won by republicans in the last campaign on this. let's look at that at the ad that the trump campaign put a significant amount of money behind in some crucial states ahead of the election in november. watch this. >> kamala supports transgender sex changes in jail with our money. kamala even supports letting biological men compete against our girls in their sports. kamala is for they dim. president trump is for you. >> a very simple message there kamala. for they them donald trump for you. in the wake of the election, this has some democrats, as you point out, trying to reckon with this and saying, hey, maybe our party is out of step one of them, probably the person who got most out front on this was seth moulton, who i talked to about this on the show a couple of
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months ago. now let's watch what he had to say about it. you told them that democrats spend way too much time trying not to offend, rather than being brutally honest about the challenges americans face. i have two little girls. i don't want to see them getting run over on a playing field by a male or a formerly male athlete, but as a democrat, i'm supposed to be afraid to say that. >> i was using this as one of many examples where the democratic party has lost touch with the american people, but the problem is that we're so insistent on, you know, policing our words and even refusing to engage in debates about contentious issues that we're just losing on them. >> so moulton put out there, hey, i'm not allowed to say this out loud. and this is part of the problem. how do you think we're going to see democrats react to this today? >> you know, look, i think you're going to see a number of different responses. we could this is a major test, i think, for democrats as they seek to essentially rebuild and rebrand their messaging following the election. this is one of those
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issues that they found themselves on the back foot on, that they were divided on, that they didn't have a unified message on. so i think you'll definitely see a lot of democrats speaking out in favor and support of the trans community. but you could see some democrats like seth moulton, for example, urging his party to maybe take a different stance or at least have that tough, uncomfortable conversation about the issue going forward. >> yeah, uh, julia, um, how do you anticipate, you know, on capitol hill today when you, you head up there to just kind of do your day job? uh, we're still in this kind of unrelenting world of trump. i mean, there's gaza there's still the tariffs. i think that is still an important story. there's obviously this. how do you anticipate and we saw democrats yesterday rallying to oppose elon musk running government. what do you anticipate is going to be the focus today. >> you know it's a good question because even before i went to bed, i saw that a number of
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obviously usaid employees were placed on leave. look, this is all about flooding the zone from the trump administration. like i said, we're looking to see what message democrats put out. is it a unified response? are they divided on this issue? but also, i think it's i'm also curious to hear what republicans have to say. remember, after that announcement president trump made about gaza last night? we heard a lot of republicans, senator lindsey graham, thom tillis raising a lot of concern and kind of confusion about what that means going forward. remember, trump also campaigned on not getting the u.s. involved in foreign wars or foreign conflicts or troops abroad, taking over gaza you would assume, would do that. >> he didn't rule out using american troops, right? >> right. >> yeah, i was struck by that as well, considering when you went to trump events, it was always, let's prevent world war three. i mean, a physical takeover of land by the united states in the world's most of the world's most contentious regions doesn't seem to necessarily align with that larger goal.
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the displacement of 1.7 million palestinians. the pitch turned gaza into the riviera of the middle east. >> it would be my hope that we could do something really nice, really good, where they wouldn't want to return. why would they want to return? the place has been hell. it's been one of the meanest, one of the meanest, toughest places on earth. you take certain areas and you build really good quality housing, like a beautiful town. like someplace where they can live and not die. because gaza is a guarantee that they're going to end up dying. >> trump's comments in the midst of a fragile ceasefire between israel and hamas, tens of thousands of palestinians have been finally returning to their homes in northern gaza, many of them vowing to rebuild. trump's remarks were met with a a range of bipartisan reaction
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here at home, south carolina republican senator lindsey graham. quote, i think most south carolinians would probably not be excited about sending americans to take over gaza. i think that might be problematic, but i'll keep an open mind. democrats slammed the proposal, calling it a distraction. >> you got to take this guy seriously. and of course, i'm sitting here and i'm thinking about what's happening at the u.s. treasury tonight, and it seems to me completely possible that he's also trying to distract us all from the ransacking of the of the treasury department's federal payment system that is going on right now under the thumb of elon musk. >> so we're going to get you the avalanche of things that donald trump is doing in just a second. but we want to focus in on gaza right now. joining me, joel rubin, former obama deputy assistant secretary of state for legislative affairs. joel, good morning. >> good morning casey. >> did you expect that we would be discussing this here on this
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set today? >> you know, i didn't get much sleep last night because my phone blew up at about ten, ten, 30 or 11 after everybody sort of digested the insanity of this. all, um, this is the most reckless, uh, unworkable, ridiculous idea that we've seen on israel-palestine from an american president, period. but it was intentional. and that's what's really important. there's always the guesswork about did he or did he not mean it? he was reading off a script. president trump was during his press conference with prime minister netanyahu, in addition to the the fireside chat there. so this is a this is a real view that he has. now. why and what does it mean? that's a whole other issue. but this is reckless and dangerous. >> so peter baker, who has covered most of our recent modern presidents, uh, wrote about this and he frames it this way, not unlike how you put this. never mind. he can name no legal authority that would
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permit the united states to unilaterally assert control over someone else's territory, or that the forcible removal of an entire population would be a violation of international law. never mind that resettling 2 million palestinians would be a. gargantuan logistical and financial challenge, not to mention politically explosive. never mind that it would surely require many thousands of u.s. troops and possibly trigger more violent conflict. mr. trump's idea would be the most expansive commitment of american might and treasure in the middle east. since the invasion and reconstruction of iraq two decades ago, and it would be a jaw dropping reversal for a president who first ran for office in 2016. decrying nation building and vowing to extract the united states out of the middle east. i mean, this is one of the first things that jumped out to me. i mean, he ran against doing this, putting american boots on the ground in this region. >> that's right. let me give a couple of examples as well as to what this will mean in the real
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world. first of all, we built just in the past year or so, a $380 million pier off of gaza that floated away into the mediterranean did nothing. had no impact about 40 years ago, the united states went into beirut on a similar mission, and our marine barracks got blown up by hezbollah. and we left under ronald reagan. this would invite terrorism. this would be an extraordinary expense that would dwarf iraq, because, quite frankly, gaza is in worse shape than iraq. and the idea that americans would somehow now own the gaza strip, it's just it's it's beyond any concept of reality. so then the question is, what does it do? and the big concern is that this could blow up the cease fire negotiations. this could sort of burn the fingertips of everyone we're working with in the region. and it could undermine our relationships with key american allies like jordan and egypt. that hamas, of course, you know,
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they're at the table here. they can then argue, use this as a rallying cry to pull away. so this has real world impacts on human beings right now. it's not a joke. >> joel, what is the possibility of this just being one of these negotiating tactics that we see from trump, where he says something explosive and we saw it with tariffs right earlier in the week to try to influence, for example, we were talking earlier this week about saudi arabia wanting a two state solution or a plan for one, as part of negotiations to normalize relations with israel. does this just set out a line from which he can negotiate and not represent a real proposal? >> you know, casey, i think there is always a smidgen of possibility in that, that somehow this will get the palestinians to pay attention. he means business, just like with canada. we're going to slap a 25% tariff on you and then withdraw it a day later. but get your attention. but the problem here is that by doing this and by putting this out there, what he is now doing is undermining american credibility. in word,
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there is now going to be a discussion that all these negotiating tables about what does he want, what's he trying to achieve. the israeli far right, as you saw in your program earlier, they're happy. they're excited. this has been a discussion ongoing for a number of years, but it is not workable. it's reckless, it's dangerous, and it's only going to throw our alliances into disarray. >> all right, joel rubin, always grateful for your perspective. sarah, thanks for coming on the show. okay, so related. flooding the zone is a strategy that donald trump deployed in his first term as president. and in this second term, well, the floodwaters seem to be getting higher. since inauguration day. president trump has unleashed a dizzying barrage of executive orders and shocking comments, among them firing scores of government employees, offering buyouts to millions of others, threatening to invade or extort our allies, freezing billions in federal funding, pardoning hundreds of people convicted of violence, some against police
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officers. on january 6th, granting elon musk access to vast swaths of sensitive information. and that's even before we get to what we were just talking about. the president's new comments about gaza the strategy, something that trump's former chief white house strategist, steve bannon, candidly described during trump's first term. >> the opposition party is. >> the. >> media, and the media can only because they're dumb and they're lazy. they can only focus on one thing at a time. all we have to do is flood the zone every day. we hit them with three things. they'll bite on one, and we'll get all of our stuff done. bang bang bang. these guys will never, will never be able to recover. >> and of course, that was the version of that flood the zone without the word that we're not supposed to say on television. his actual quote, flood the zone with joining me now, kevin fry, washington correspondent for new york one. kevin, good morning. where would you like to start? which piece of the flooded zone?
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well, should we begin with? >> i mean, maybe. >> there's even a better phrase for this variation, which might be move fast and break things to just steal something from silicon valley and elon musk effectively, because to to kind of bounce off of what senator smith was just saying earlier in the segment. essentially, there's so much going on that at least democrats are starting to argue that this is shielding and distracting from the potential damage that elon musk is doing to the bureaucratic infrastructure underneath the entire federal government. >> and that, of course, part of this is, you know, it's is that it is hard to talk about some of these, you know, the bureaucracy is fundamentally boring. correct? right. but they do a lot of really important things. and you saw democrats yesterday. i want to show a little bit of there was a press conference. we have seen democrats struggle to figure out how to oppose donald trump the second time around. here's a let's take a little bit of a look at how they were trying to do it yesterday. watch this. >> when we. >> open up.
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>> the senate. >> every single. >> morning, we don't pledge allegiance to. >> the billionaires. >> we don't. >> we don't pledge. >> allegiance to. >> elon musk. >> no one elected elon musk to make any decisions. >> about getting. >> my county, my city, my state. there is an economic coup happening right here in the treasury. we're here today in the hopes that you will see the light. but if you do not see the light, we will bring the fire. resist. >> resist. of course, the tagline of the opposition from the previous trump administration. um, but at the same time, they don't have any recourse right now. i mean. >> effectively, no, i mean, senator schumer and congressman jeffries were facing a lot of pressure over the past two weeks to try to figure out how the heck do you navigate this. and i believe at least schumer was at that press rally last night outside of the treasury. yesterday they laid out
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essentially like a four part principled plan, which was. litigation legislation trying to appeal to public sentiment, which they cite essentially the withdrawals on the plan to freeze federal government spending as an example of how that might have worked last week, because that's a little more tangible and understandable for for folks across the country. and then also providing some degree of oversight, but because they're not in charge of committees, they can't really dictate what congress is focusing on. one thing i did ask yesterday at this press conference with jeffries and schumer was, is elon musk moving so fast through, to quote myself, the bureaucratic infrastructure. can you possibly keep up with this? and there wasn't really an answer on that front. the one other thing i will add is that you mentioned that it's more flood waters than before. some of that seems to be because whether trump wanted to acknowledge it or not, the project 2025 blueprint has provided a pretty fundamental, uh, game plan for how to address some of these things, because there has been so many pieces of that that have been adopted by
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this administration. >> all right. kevin fry for us this morning, sir. thanks very much for being here. i appreciate it. all right. ahead here on cnn this morning, we could use a little bit of this super bowl week. it's in high gear in new orleans. our coy wire reports on the new arrival in the mahomes household, who's providing motivation for the chiefs quarterback. plus, how the trump administration plans to eliminate the department of education. >> the trump administration. >> is preparing. >> an executive. >> order. >> to abolish the. >> department of education. >> yeah, it's. >> just like he won. >> fourth grade class president. he's like. >> no more. >> homework and. >> pizza for lunch every day. >> and we're. >> getting a vending machine. >> if you have heart failure or chronic kidney disease, vasagar. >> can help you keep. >> living life because. >> there are places you'd. >> like to be serious. side effects include increased ketones in blood or you're in, and bacterial. infection between the and genitals, both of which may be fatal. severe allergic
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thrilled that a man who writes smocking gun and scot free with two t's and tap with two p's and wants to make it in showbiz and spells his party. republicans is doing this. what could possibly go wrong? you know it's eliminating. >> what could possibly go wrong. the trump administration is drafting an executive order that would initiate the process of eliminating the department of education. sources tell cnn the plan would be a step toward fulfilling one of the president's campaign promises. >> we're going to take it all out of washington. we're going to send it all back to the states. i believe that school choice is the civil rights issue of our time. we want to close the federal department of education. >> trump back in november nominated former wwe executive linda mcmahon to head the department of education. now, as he looks to dismantle it, the
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president, making an unusual request of his pending secretary. >> i told linda, linda, i hope you do a great job and put yourself out of a job. i want her to put herself out of a job. i want the states to run schools, and i want linda to put herself out of a job. >> joining me now, npr education correspondent anya kamenetz. she's also the author of the stolen year how covid changed children's lives and where we go now. anya, very grateful to have you on the show this morning. i would like to talk a little bit about the ways in which the department of education benefits people who find themselves in situations where they have no other recourse, especially people with learning challenges and disabilities. because i think this is a place that a lot of people watching. certainly i have friends in my own life. i have i have small kids. i think your kids might be older than mine, but this is this is
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something that actually really does affect people where they are. and certainly we can also, a lot of republicans have always said, you know, get the federal government out of education, but these particular ways where the rubber really meets the road, what are the implications of closing the department of education yes. >> so as you mentioned, i mean, there's already a very large degree of local control over our schools. the federal government is only responsible for about 8 to 10% of funding of the schools. however, they have a very large role of oversight and accountability, and particularly for 14% of students that are covered under disabilities. they oversee not only the implementation, but also the enforcement. of course, this is the dreaded di, a accessibility part, and this is exactly the civil rights role of the federal government that it's taken historically. along with that, the federal government administers title one, which is
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the major program that directs funding specifically to to poor students. so places where property taxes are not funding good outcomes for kids. that's where we look to the national government to play that role. >> so, anya, if you are someone who, you know, you find out your child's been diagnosed with autism or another version of neurodivergence and you need a plan from your local school to help you educate your child. and the department of education doesn't exist. how is your life potentially different? what can't you do that you can do under the current system? >> you may have lost access to funding and you more importantly, you're losing access to recourse, right? so many, many families that i know personally have gone through this rigmarole of trying to get the services that your kid needs. many times you have to take various official steps to hold the district accountable, perhaps the state accountable, but the buck stops at the federal government. and, you
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know, this is exactly the kind of thing that we're seeing from this administration where they're walking away and really dropping their responsibility to protect some of our weakest and most vulnerable students. >> yeah. what role, anya, does this have in terms of administering college related grants? things along those lines. >> so the the other major responsibility of the education department, besides title one and besides students with disabilities and the office of civil rights, is the giant slate of federal student loans. we're talking about $1.6 trillion in federal student loan debt, which effectively turns the education department into some kind of bank. so what's contemplated here is moving that function into the treasury department or another department. and, you know, there have been a lot of problems with the student loan. um, industry, the student loan administration turning it over even more so to to business interests, which i'm sure has
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been a long time. um, something that the president has advocated would not turn out that well, most likely for most people that have outstanding debt. >> all right. anya kamenetz, thank you very much for bringing your expertise to the program. i'm sure we're going to require it, uh, quite often here in the months ahead. thank you very much. >> all right. good luck. thanks. >> all right. time now for sports. there's a new arrival in the mahomes household as the kansas city chiefs seek their third straight super bowl title on sunday. their quarterback finding new motivation. coy wire has the latest from new orleans. >> reporter. >> we are. >> here in new. >> orleans outside the philadelphia. >> eagles team hotel, and they have a tough task here at super bowl 59. they have to try to take down the two time defending chiefs, who are going for a first ever three peat as super bowl champions. now as if patrick mahomes, their star quarterback, needs any more motivation. he's already been to five super bowls in seven
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seasons, including three wins. found out just a bit ago that he does have some added motivation this time around. his newborn baby daughter, golden. >> it's always motivating whenever you have another baby. i mean, just because i want them to have the same experiences that the other two had and she's she's been amazing. she's been sleeping well. mom's been extremely happy and i'm excited for her to be able to to come to. i think this will be her first football game at the super bowl, and hopefully we can get her a win, baby. >> golden picked a great game to be her first one. on the other side, there is some added motivation for saquon barkley. the philadelphia eagles 2000 yard rusher and mvp candidate, running back super bowl sunday will be his birthday, so we caught up with him to ask how he feels about that. >> i think. >> it's pretty cool that the super bowl lands on my birthday. um, you know, not only my birthday, khuza'a birthday, and sam's birthday too. um, but yeah, i don't think, uh, you know, winning the super bowl on your birthday or whether it's the day before or the day after,
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i think just winning the super bowl in general is such a cool moment, and it puts you in football royalty, and it's something that you want to accomplish since you're a little kid. so whether it was on my birthday or not, to be able to win it would mean everything would mean the world. >> saquon will turn 28 on super bowl sunday in his first ever super bowl. and his teammate that he mentioned, cooper, cooper, dejean. it's his birthday as well. cooper's number 33. saquon wears number 26. those two added together equal 59. this the super bowl 59. some eagles fans are saying it is written in the stars. we shall see. >> yes yes yes it's written in the stars okay. but let's not take that for granted okay. we still have to actually perform. i mean hell jalen hurts played like he played a week or so ago. uh fingers crossed. but again, we're so superstitious here that we don't allow ourselves to think that way. gabbard straight ahead here on cnn this morning. president trump's seismic plan for the u.s. to take over the gaza strip. democratic congresswoman debbie dingell joins us live on what it all means for the future of u.s.
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