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from those lawsuits being his primary source of income. he could rig the system. he could pull vaccines out of the vaccine injury compensation program and leave them open to the slings and arrows of civil litigation. he could change compensable injury list to make it more easy for his his personal injury lawyer friends to also cash in. i don't trust him for a second and all his actions over the past 20 years should make every senator who sat on that committee also not trust him. this is going to be hard to watch. i mean, some of his ideas about, you know, sort of processed food and eating better and trying to decrease the incidence of obesity and the consequences of obesity, like type two diabetes. great idea. there are a lot of people in this country that can do that. but with this man, you're getting the additional baggage of the fact that he is a virulent anti-vaccine activist who means it, he means it. and you're going to see you're going to see how much he means that soon. >> doctor paul offit, thank you so much for coming in. a new hour of cnn news central starts
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now. >> he is moving the goalposts of crazy. new reaction this morning from advisers, lawmakers and nations after president trump said the u.s. will take over gaza quote, if i go back, they will kill me. a new cnn report as president trump's mass deportation plans take hold. and this morning, former twitter employees are offering advice to federal workers on how to deal with an elon musk takeover. i'm john berman with sara sidner and kate bolduan. this is cnn news central all right. right there, you're seeing live pictures from the white house. and also from gaza the geopolitics of one has been completely upended by the other.
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president trump proposing u.s. ownership of gaza with u.s. troops if necessary, and the removal of 2 million palestinians. >> we'll do what is necessary. if it's necessary, we'll do that. we're going to take over that piece that we're going to develop it. i do see a long term ownership position. we have an opportunity to do something that could be phenomenal, and i don't want to be cute. i don't want to be a wise guy. but the riviera of the middle east, this could be something that could be so bad. this could be so magnificent. >> in the last few hours, there has been condemnation from nations around the world that, in theory, would need to support this move. we could hear again shortly from the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, who will meet with defense secretary pete hegseth. we're already hearing from some republican senators questioning the idea. senator thom tillis told politico there's probably a couple of kinks in that slinky. and senator josh hawley says, quote, i don't know that
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i think it's the best use of u.s. resources to spend a bunch of money in gaza. i think maybe i'd prefer that to be spent in the united states first. let's get right to cnn's alayna treene at the white house, where i imagine there is some fallout this morning, or at least people behind you watching the reaction very closely. >> i mean, absolutely, john, what the president said yesterday was truly remarkable and stunning to hear, especially during a press conference. one thing that struck me, though, was that the president seemed to be building toward this sentiment all day, even before prime minister benjamin netanyahu arrived at the white house yesterday afternoon. now, i do want to just focus again on what the president said. he said that he believes that the united states could take over gaza. he said will own it. he also would not rule out using u.s. troops to do so. again, just very remarkable comments. and again, as well. this is not something off handed and not off handed rhetoric. i should say that the president is using. we know that
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in the past he has referred to the gaza strip as prime real estate. that could be used well in the right hands, but this is very much going further than that. and of course, one, its breaking with precedent and what we've heard from several u.s. presidents say for generations now. but it could also completely threaten the delicate deal we know that is being worked out with the trump administration and those between israel and hamas and the cease fire deal. this very careful, delicate cease fire deal that they are trying to maintain. now, another big question, of course, is what would happen to the men, women and children around, you know, nearly 2 million people who currently live in gaza. where would they go? we know that the president in the past has said that he believes that egypt and jordan, neighboring countries, should accept them. but it's also something we've heard both leaders of this country argue is not on the table, something they have rejected. the president, however, argued he believes it is still on the table. listen to what he said yesterday.
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>> it'll be wonderful for the people, palestinians, palestinians, mostly. we're talking about. and i have a feeling that despite them saying no, i have a feeling that the king in jordan and that the general president, but that the general and egypt will open their hearts and will give us the kind of land that we need to get this done. and people can live in harmony and in peace. >> johnny said he believes that the leaders of egypt and jordan will open their hearts. it's very unclear what exactly that means, but of course, i think a key question is whether or not the president believes that he could essentially force these countries into accepting a people who are displaced in gaza. and the other thing, of course, here's why i would note, is the king of jordan is coming to the white house next week. so this will certainly be a very crucial part of that conversation. but one thing that was clear is we did not hear any real details on how this would be possible, how the united
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states could take this over. but it was very clear. and it's clear in my conversations with white house officials that the president is very serious about this. now, i do also just want to point your attention to some of that reaction that you were referencing. we heard from marco rubio, the secretary of state, trying to defend donald trump on this. this is what he posted overnight. he said gaza must be free from hamas. as potus shared today, the united states stands ready to lead and make gaza beautiful again. our pursuit is one of lasting peace in the region for all people, so we'll certainly be getting, of course, more reaction. and as you mentioned, we are going to continue to see prime minister netanyahu today in washington. he's meeting with defense secretary pete hegseth and has more meetings later this week. john. >> we'll be watching all of that very closely. alayna treene at the white house, thank you very much, sarah. >> all right. to continue the conversation. joining us now is cnn political and national security analyst david sanger. david, thank you so much for joining us. look, this president is the person who said that the
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u.s. must get out of forever wars. he is now proposing sending american troops to gaza, forcing out millions of palestinians and rebuilding it to own it, to have a stake in it. is this complete fantasy? >> well. >> sarah, it's it's certainly one of the most unusual proposals we have heard, even from the mouth of donald trump. it's not that the idea of moving palestinians out of gaza is an entirely new one. during the past year and a half of war, or a year and a quarter of war, there were questions about whether or not the gates could be opened so that people who wanted to go into egypt and could, and that there would be some kind of temporary refugee camp set up. but to the palestinians living in gaza, the key question is, can you then return? or is this just a mechanism for israel to force
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the palestinians out of gaza and into a place where they don't have a homeland, that the state that would be part of a two state solution? so what we heard from president trump was a vision for a glorious gaza with hotels and seaside looks, and it will be beautiful. and it was a developer's view of what you could do with a seaside piece of land. and we heard nothing about whether the palestinians would have the right to return. he simply said it would be a land open to all people, including palestinians. well, that's a very different thing from having a separate palestinian state. >> yeah. i do want to ask you about this. gaza is destroyed. we've been looking at the pictures. obviously, 60% of buildings destroyed, 90% of the population displaced, tens of thousands of palestinians dead. hostages are still being held by hamas. and trump is talking about gaza as a piece of real
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estate, as you put it, to be owned and used by the united states. i mean, how is this going to affect the united states and how it deals with, for example, israel's neighbors like jordan, like egypt, who have unequivocally said no to having 2 million palestinians coming in at refugee status. >> well, first, in jordan's case, there are already millions of palestinians there. and the jordanians are concerned that it would destabilize their. society. uh, president sisi has the same concern, obviously, about about egypt. we're going to see king abdullah in, uh, in washington next week. and he's really on the spot now. you know, the usual process for all of this. sarah would be, you
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know, you work through the different agencies of government, the national security council, you come up with a proposal for the president, you red team it to make sure that you understand what its implications could be. you quietly sell it to the allies so that not everybody jumps up and down and says no when it first happens. there was none of that. this seemed to evolve, as you heard before, from the morning to the afternoon. it just sort of came out of the president's head and and his mouth. and then, of course, you saw prime minister netanyahu sitting there smiling, understandably so, because he's got a right wing that wants to take over all of gaza and make sure that it is, in fact, once again, is full israeli territory. if he can't get that having it as american territory probably seemed like a pretty good option. and certainly it would be a 15 year building project. the other remarkable part of this is that at the very
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moment that we're dismantling the usaid program around the world, in part because it spends billions of dollars, we've got this project just in gaza whose price tag, i suspect, would be tens of billions of dollars. >> yeah. and that is there are so many questions that the american people would have about spending millions, tens of millions of dollars in a country that the united states is now trying to, according to trump, own. um, there are so many, so many questions. and there's also the question about security and whether this causes more destabilization in the region. david sanger, thank you so much. i really appreciate you walking us through that this morning, kate. >> here's a quote for you. it's like a. bull in a china shop. warnings from former former twitter employees to federal employees. now about elon musk's doge agenda. what has tear it all down approach feels like from the people who know
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of email addresses, and a former twitter employee said that essentially, musk has this algorithm for change where his his motto, his m.o., is to question every requirement, assume that every requirement that anybody ever gives you is dumb. question it. eliminate it wherever possible, and basically ask, do we even need this thing? should we? should we have it to begin with and start eliminating from there? we're now hearing former twitter employees offering advice to federal government workers, both publicly and quietly, including things like how to communicate securely through platforms like signal, and then more personal advice about how to navigate this kind of upheaval. one former principal software engineer at twitter posted on x don't comply without question. don't fold over in advance. find small routines that anchor you and make you feel in control, even just for a few minutes every day. so they're really empathizing with what federal government employees are going going through now. i also spoke with shannon liss-riordan, who is the former, who's the attorney who's represented a lot of these former twitter employees in taking legal action
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against the company. and she said she's already getting questions from federal government workers about whether they could, can or should take this buyout package and whether they can count on the money. and she said there are big questions about whether they can because this money hasn't necessarily been approved by congress to pay these folks out through september. so she said the advice that she's giving people is basically, you need to decide what's in your best interests, and there's no way to predict exactly how this is going to come out. but she said she's already expecting that there will be lawsuits from these federal government workers. but the question is, the tricky thing is that it's harder to sue the government than it is to sue a private company. >> absolutely. and also, even given her advice, it's hard to it seems it might be hard to know even what is in your best interest. >> she basically said there's no good options here. >> oh, jeez. claire, very interesting perspective from people who would know. thank you so much. i really appreciate it. john. >> quote i would be risking my life. a new cnn report as immigrants fear being sent back to their native countries. and breaking overnight, police are searching for a man suspected in a deadly mass shooting at a
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entirety. >> of our. >> foreign assistance worldwide. our lifesaving foreign assistance worldwide. >> um. >> we are. >> damaging us capacity, us standing, and also harming lives. >> these are. >> programs that range from eradicating. polio to fighting outbreaks that are occurring right now. bird flu. >> monitoring is being shut down. it's already shut down. it's already closed. >> uh. >> and so this is the. >> demolition. >> unconstitutional demolition. >> of a. >> critical agency. >> um, and. >> it is, uh, it's. going to. >> it's going to be it's going to cost lives. >> how will it impact, for instance, fighting malaria? >> uh, the entire. >> malaria team is wiped out, including. >> some of the top world experts in. malaria. um. >> programs involving. thousands of people. >> around the world. >> distributing millions.
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>> of bed. >> nets. >> uh, providing for children who it's one of the top killers of children. in areas that have malaria around the world. and those treatments and diagnostics. >> gone, and. >> the. people who take care of. them laid off. thousands of people around the world. who are. >> terminated. >> uh, it is. >> how does that make us stronger? how does that make. >> us safer? we had return of malaria. >> to the united states just this past summer. >> so elon musk says that usaid is not an apple with a worm. he says it's a ball of worms. a criminal organization. he says, so what would you say to elon musk? >> um, it. >> is. >> i don't know if it's ignorance or indifference. i fear it is both. uh, this is an. agency founded by. >> john f kennedy in 1961 as. our vehicle for. providing the. hearts and.
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>> minds, uh. >> winning hearts and minds around the world. >> it is our. >> largest civilian, uh, operational capacity for extending abroad. >> these this is these. >> are the people. >> who eradicated. smallpox already from the world. were able to take an india and stop famine there. and then. help india. >> become an. >> exporter and a. partner to. >> the united states. um, this. >> is so far from the truth to call these. people worms. describe it as a rogue criminal operation. it's they're, you know, they are often using words to describe their. >> own activities. >> it's projection rather than the reality of what we have and the damage of. removing overnight this entire. >> capacity. >> the the systems of checks and balances have failed. and congress has abrogated and abdicated its responsibilities. >> you've seen the list of specific programs that elon musk and his allies and some republicans in congress say that
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usaid is funding that they feel is out of bounds. it should not be funded. what do you say to those? >> um, look, there is a debate over whether there should be diversity programs, whether hiv clinics should treat transgender people, uh, who have hiv like this is an argument we can have over a small component of this budget. um, but you don't destroy the entire organization. policy changes from administration to administration. and we can look at this program, the different programs. but we're talking about a in global health, for example, it's half the budget of my hospital where i practice surgery, and it is reaching hundreds of millions of people with work being done through catholic relief services. save the children. these are not criminal enterprises. these are not rogue operations. these are vital, uh, capabilities for the
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united states. >> i have to let you go, doctor. but based on these changes, when they go into effect friday as a result, do you think people will die? >> people already. ah, the the the pause is two weeks old. this is now the firing of the crew and the loss of the entire capacity for the united states, china and russia are celebrating governments. i know i've spoken to ministers of health. they are calling them asking china, can you backstop these programs that america is walking away from? can you make sure our people don't die from malaria? can you make sure that 20 million people with hiv, who now, as of last week, stopped being able to get medication that is keeping them alive, that this can be solved? they've been trying for this for for undermining the u.s. in this way for decades. and elon musk is making it happen now. >> doctor atul gawande, we
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billionaire elon musk as he takes a sledgehammer to federal government agencies. earlier this week, one white house official said musk is serving as a, quote, special government employee. so how do americans feel about musk and his unelected role? cnn's harry enten is here to run the numbers for us. all right. how popular is the idea of having elon musk in this position? position, which has a great deal of power? >> yeah, i think simply put, the american people did not sign up for this. they voted in donald trump. they did not vote in elon musk, a key role for musk in trump's administration. you see this 39% support, 53%. >> the clear. >> majority opposed. they don't want this. >> the american people don't want this. >> no. >> no, no. >> just 36% of independents support the idea of elon musk having a key role in the trump administration. so the bottom line when it comes to all of this and elon musk being everywhere, it seems in the federal government trying to
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trim down the federal deficit, the american folks, simply put, do not want elon musk having a key role in the trump administration. >> even though he has a very key role at this point. how has his own popularity sort of been impacted by this? because if you go on twitter x, which he now owns, you would think he is the king of kings. >> he may be the king of x or twitter, but he ain't the king of the united states of america. and if he were the king, he'd be a very unpopular king. elon musk's net favorable rating. you know, back in 2016, when he was known as the spacex guy. right. his net favorable rating was 29 points by last year pre fall, he had dropped all the way down to minus three as he began to take on more of a political role. remember as he took on x as he bought x, formerly known as twitter. now look in 2025. whoa. the bottom has fallen out. fallen out. -11 points. and it should be noted that donald trump's own net favorable
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rating is closer to about a net zero. so elon musk at this particular point is far more unpopular than donald trump is, who is at the apex of his popularity. in fact, what we see with elon musk is he is at the trough of his popularity. >> look, i think a lot of people saw them as almost a package deal. you saw him more than jd vance. we don't even say jd vance name. he is the vice president. it is musk, musk, musk all day, every day because of the moves he's making. so does it seem like he's sort of becoming the face of this administration? >> yeah, i think in some ways he is he is becoming the face of this administration. look at google searches for elon musk. they're at their all time high at their all time high. since google started tracking this back in 2004. get this. it's up 700% from this time last year. it's like a rocket ship taking up. and you mentioned jd vance. get this. searches for elon musk are seven times as high as the searches for jd vance. so the idea that elon musk can go do this and kind of quietly go into the corner, he's becoming a face of this administration, an unpopular face at that.
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>> and he certainly has not been quiet about any of it because he owns x and he can put everything out there. and we've seen it on a daily basis. >> as someone who's quite loud, i recognize other people who are quite loud. >> he's quite loud. you're loud. >> i know we're all really shocked. >> by that. this is actually a shocking revelation. >> who's run the band? >> all right, harry enten, thank you so much. appreciate it kate. >> and also this morning, advocacy groups and unions are now suing the treasury department over elon musk's move with doge staffers to gain access to treasury's payment systems, which disperse funds to federal agencies. the new lawsuit says this, in part, the scale of the intrusion into individuals privacy is massive and unprecedented, and this comes on top of multiple other lawsuits that the trump administration is already facing for attempting to implement that blanket government wide funding freeze. joining me right now is lisa gilbert, the co-president of public citizen, a watchdog group that's behind the lawsuit against the treasury department. lisa, thank you for coming in. why sue? why take on the treasury department? why sue the
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treasury department specifically? as i know, your group has also filed suit against doge over its uncertain legal status and authorities previously absolutely. >> well, thanks so much for having me. and you know, our suit simply demands an immediate end to the systemic, continuous and ongoing violation of federal laws that protect all of our privacy. that is, the privacy of personal information contained in federal records. it's a big deal because the treasury maintains sensitive personal and financial information of all of us, of millions of americans, and there are laws in place to protect us. we are simply suing to put us back to regular order. >> are there assurances that elon musk or the secretary of the treasury could offer that would make. it's not really about feelings, but i'll say it. i'll put it that way. it would make you feel better about doge staffers gaining access to this sensitive treasury data. >> i don't think so. it's a great question, but, you know,
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treasury is claiming that, you know, tom krause, ceo of cloud group, has read only access as if that is supposed to make us feel better. but it's a remarkable justification because read only access is still illegal. the law bars access to individuals who lack a legitimate need for it. presumably they want this access for something they plan to use the data in some way, either to reject payments or to use it for some other punitive purpose. it's something that regular americans are fearful of, and certainly it's not something that's allowed or legal. >> members of congress have really joined in in protest against these moves, specifically by doge. i want to play for you something that democratic congressman jamie raskin said in standing out in protesting against moves like this. >> elon musk. >> you may have illegally seized power over the financial payment systems of the united states department of treasury, but you
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don't control. >> the money of. >> the american people. the united states congress does that. we don't have a fourth branch of government called elon musk. >> and yours is not the only lawsuit that doge is facing around its structure and practices here. why do you think this has struck such a chord? >> i mean, this is such a huge amount of information and data. you know, this what treasury does is send out 6 trillion in annual payments, social security and medicare and veterans benefits and tax refunds. this is how your grandfather gets his social security check or how your mom's doctor gets paid by medicare. you know, this is something that an unelected billionaire shouldn't have the power to turn on or off. you know, it's incredibly important. private information. and i think it really is striking a chord. it makes people uncomfortable. you know, elon musk and doge should not be allowed to
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continue to infiltrate and take over key government systems with no sense of what they're going to do with this information, or even worse, if they'll be using it for personal profit or things that could benefit their own. his own company. >> lisa, what you said you're asking for in the lawsuit is just a stop to this and a return to regular order, if you will. the way, the way it has been. what is the next step here? i mean, how quickly can this happen? what are you watching for in terms of the next move in trying to decipher the intentions here? >> well, early this morning, we're filing our motion for a temporary restraining order to stop doge from accessing treasury records. so. so that's the next move, and we'll be waiting to see how the courts respond. i think in the interim, watching very closely to see how treasury and musk and trump respond to the outrage from members of congress and senators, as you referenced, from regular americans, there was a huge protest in front of
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treasury last night, responsive to the outrage. you know, i think we're going to continue to see them try to justify what they're doing. but again, you know, there really is no justification. you know, this is our information. these are our payments. it is simply not acceptable for doge to be poking around and potentially taking punitive actions here. >> let's see what happens next. lisa gilbert, thank you for coming on. john. >> all right. this morning, the white house press secretary confirms the trump administration has flown its first planeload of deported migrants to guantanamo bay. that follows other immigration tactics, which include sending more u.s. troops to the southern border and high profile ice raids in major cities. as part of his all over the map series. our john king went to nebraska, which depends on immigrant workers, to see how this is playing out for voters and the immigrants themselves. >> the nebraska prairie. it's calm and quiet as the rolling
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farmlands wait out winter. >> this is where. >> community looks like. >> but even. >> here, the new trump agenda stirs passion and fear. >> love over hate. >> immigrant workers are critical in a state where cattle outnumber people by. >> more than 3 to 1. >> nebraska is second to texas. >> in u.s. beef. >> production. sixth in pork, and its cornhusker state nickname celebrates its role as an agriculture giant. >> if we have a. >> hitch in the get along in nebraska, it's a big enough processing state. >> it's going. >> to be felt in. >> the food chain. >> by hitch in the get along. >> nebraska farmers. >> union president. >> john hansen. >> means a trump immigration crackdown that rounds up undocumented workers. >> do we need better enforcement? i think we do. >> there's a constructive. >> way to do. >> it, and. >> there's less than constructive. >> way to. >> do it. >> and so it remains. >> to be seen. >> how we proceed. >> this is a red state, and its republican governor is offering support. if the trump white house puts nebraska on its immigration crackdown list. fear is the. >> word you.
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>> hear most from immigrants, even those with legal status. >> this first term was more of like, let's see if this can happen. this year is more i'm going to do it. they go to school. >> jen has. >> a green. >> card now and is. working toward citizenship, but he has. >> family and. >> friends who are undocumented. and he asked that we not use his full name. >> it's a scary time for my community, for people i care for, are i'm not lucky enough like i am. >> rumors of i.c.e. >> activity spread fast, as did word that agents can now enter schools and churches. >> it starts up people getting scared. basically, it starts off like have you seen immigration? have you seen this? and you see the fear in people's eyes. just the fact that they can't go out to the store, they can't go get groceries or even hospitals. it's just a hard time. >> immigrant advocates like mary cho. >> say clients. >> are worried now about sending their children to school or showing up for english classes and other services. >> we really. >> want to keep immigrants and refugees involved in the community because because
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they're so integral to our community. but it's been very difficult for them to be able to do that because they fear going outside of their homes. >> so originaria. >> de honduras, centro américa. >> is seeking asylum. she was a journalist back home in honduras targeted by the government, she says, after reports detailing corruption. >> basicamente se vuelvo honduras. >> pues me maten. >> if i go back to honduras they will kill me. >> she entered the states a year ago using a biden administration phone app that trump eliminated on day one. your lawyers tell you you're in the asylum process and you should be okay. but with trump as president, are you worried? >> claro. si. por supuesto. >> of course for. >> sure. >> y porque. >> because he tries to implement quite strict policies with immigrants in general. and i think even. >> more with people. >> who have just entered the country, at least with the program i entered with, there is some instability, so to speak. so of course that increases
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anxiety and concern. >> todo con la llegada de. trump. >> with trump's arrival, i have felt very unstable. i have a lot of anxiety. i suffer from insomnia and i cannot stop thinking about the possibility of being deported. >> de pensar en la posibilidad de volver. >> i cannot go back. >> no puedo. >> nebraska state senator kathleen kauth is pushing a new e-verify law that requires employers to certify their workers are legal, simple and common sense, she says. but korth concedes the polarized national debate might make it harder to win over democrats. >> i'm really more worried. >> about nebraska. >> and focusing on what do we need in. >> nebraska to understand. >> the. >> problem, how do we make sure that we. >> are. >> keeping people who are not here legally from taking jobs. from people who are here? >> korth believes the state can handle any workforce disruption caused by stronger enforcement, and she is a state example of the trump effect on the republican party. any path to status or citizenship for those already here illegally must start with going home.
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>> i kind of view it as a poison apple from the poison tree. whatever the legal definition is, if your first act is to break the law, you have become a criminal. and so therefore everything after, even if it's well intentioned, even if it's wonderful, please go back and go through the process because we do want you here, but we need you to do it the right way. and i don't think that that should ever change. >> go back is the driving theme of the new republican immigration push, and a big reason more immigrants think it's best to stay in the shadows. >> and john king is with us now, john, as we said, nebraska, as you said, nebraska is a red state. but in the next major election, the midterms could play an important role. >> that's exactly right. to the eastern part of the state is omaha. that's don bacon's district. he's a republican. he's always on the list of vulnerable republicans. kamala harris, the vice president, the democrat, won that district. so that's one of the reasons we went to nebraska to watch how this plays out in a red state that has a very competitive
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district. as we watch the trump policy impact from now, not only through the first 100 days, but through the midterms. there's also a question that, john, even a lot of people who support trump's enforcement, they're are worried about economic disruption. they worry about the meatpacking industry now. they worry about the construction industry now they worry about farms. when we get to the spring and into the summer and then into the harvest season, they're not opposed to enforcement. a lot of these people, especially in this red state. but they say, what about the other part of the conversation? when are we going to have conversations about an expanded guest worker program or new visas for legal immigrants to come into the country? so it's a great conversation in a red state where the politics are pretty complicated. >> and it was a great piece, a great report. john king, thank you very much for that. thank you sarah. >> so good. thank you so much, john. this just in the u.s. postal service updating its guidance now on service from china, saying it will indeed continue accepting all inbound mail and packages from china and hong kong. that is a reversal of what was expected today, after the agency had warned incoming packages would not be accepted.
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>> this morning there is a new type of pain medication on the market that could be life changing for millions of americans. yesterday we told you about it and asked you to submit your questions about this new drug. and now dr. sanjay gupta is back with some answers for you. thank you for being back, sanjay. so let's jump right into it. stephanie from minnesota submitted this question and asks, how is this new drug any different from other prescription pain medication? and this gets to the crux of why it could be so life changing. >> yeah, i mean, this. >> is a. >> pretty big deal in the world. >> of. >> pain medications because. >> it is essentially. >> representing a totally different class of pain medications. you know, you. >> typically think of. >> anti-inflammatories or opioids or sometimes even things like antidepressants or anti-anxiety medications. this works in a in a very different way. you know, for opioids, for example, the way, you know, the brain is processing all pain. so
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opioids in many ways work by sort of dulling the sensation of pain in the brain. and that's why people often feel loopy or feel a little off when they're taking opioids. the way that this medication works is actually more at the site of pain, where the pain is initially being processed, and it changes the way that those pain signals are then transmitted to the brain. so it's very different than what else is out there. and as a result, i think it's going to be a good option for people. we haven't had a new pain medication approved, kate, in more than 25 years in the united states. so i think that's part of the reason there's excitement. it's 50mg every 12 hours. when you're in pain. it's not cheap. cost over $15 per pill. we'll see how insurance handles that. but this is you know, this is sort of emerging even as we speak, kate. >> and let's get to something. you were just touching on that that loopy feeling when it comes to medication, because ali from marin county in california gets to that saying that. will it make me loopy like other meds? i can't take any pain meds
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because i feel like i'm on another planet and it turns out a lot, a lot. and with that, i think that gets to what a lot of people think when it comes to these medications. >> have you ever tried opioids, kate? i mean. >> i you know what? i actually never, never did. sanjay, i did need to after my back surgery, which was basically one year ago today. and loopy is like the easy word for it, for what it did to me. >> by the way, i'm glad you're doing so well after your back operation. the these opioids can really knock you out. being on another planet, it's a good way of describing it. these again these these medications, this journey of x medication. it just works in a in a completely different way. we're going to see as more and more people take it. what sort of side effects that they have. we know that it can cause these types of side effects itching, muscle spasms, rash. but in terms of that loopiness and and also in terms
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of the euphoria that people will get that may make those opioids more addictive, it just doesn't seem to be happening with with this medication. we will see. again, this is a big deal because it's the first medication approved in a long time. as more and more people take it. we'll see if there's other side effects that sort of emerge. but because it doesn't work on the brain, unlikely to cause those sorts of symptoms. >> which leads to another question of what that means in terms of people who have an allergy to other pain meds, like aspirin. we have one viewer question. susan had asked this question if she she is an allergy to aspirin and other pain meds like that, what does that mean for genetics? >> well, you know, when you have pain medications, even though they're all called pain medications, they can be in totally different classes, work by different mechanisms. so i don't know specifically what the allergy is. if it's more of an allergy to anti-inflammatories. right. this is not an anti-inflammatory. so it's not likely you would have an allergy to this. you obviously want to talk to your doctor about that.
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but you know, if even if you have cholesterol lowering medications, there can be different classes of those. and some people may be allergic to one, are not tolerate one, but be okay with the other. it's probably going to be the same with this pain medication. the biggest sort of substitute that it's going to probably provide for is for opioids. people who would have otherwise taken opioids, foot pain, abdominal pain, whatever it might be, they may be able to take this medication instead. >> that and thank god for that. to be able to phase out opioids. and i mean, first pain medicine, new pain med in 25 years is pretty mind boggling considering all the all the progress we have in all sorts of of drug science. but this is understandably so, and why we ask you so many questions about it. this is a big deal. it's good to see you, sanjay. >> you too. thanks, sara. >> all right. a strong storm and powerful winds triggering. landslides across california. this often happens after major fires. one caused a home in
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sonoma county to fall into the river below, where it floated downstream. thankfully, no one was hurt because no one was inside at the time. but authorities evacuated some homes nearby just in case. a number of roads also shut down due to landslides. all right. right now, police are searching for a suspect in connection with last night's deadly shooting at an ohio warehouse. one person killed, five others injured. it happened at a cosmetics facility in new albany. police recovered a firearm from that scene. authorities say the shooting appears to have been targeted. no reason to believe there will be any further threat. two of japan's biggest automakers are still holding various discussions, despite reports their merger was scrapped. that is according to nissan. nissan and honda announced a possible merger in december as they try to compete with surging chinese automakers. nissan says they plan to make an official announcement by mid-february. we're basically almost there. all right. a new hour of cnn news central starts right
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