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a violation of international law. >> take it or leave it. the cia is offering buyouts to its entire workforce. the agency's new trump appointed leader says the change will infuse new energy into the agency, but experts are worried this could have dire consequences for national security and lessons learned. what elon musk's handling of twitter after he bought it in 2022 can tell us about his plans for the american government in 2025. we're following these major developing stories and many more, all coming in right here to cnn news central. >> right now. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu is in washington as the world is
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processing a stunning proposal from president trump that would upend decades of u.s. policy in the middle east. the president is calling for u.s. ownership of gaza and relocating the 2 million palestinians who live there to other countries. trump adds that will then give the u.s. an opportunity to develop the area into a worldwide destination. he also says he's not ruling out military force to make this happen, something the white house has tried to explain just moments ago. >> why not rule out the idea of committing u.s. troops? this has been a long standing argument that the president has made really, over the last decade or so, talking about endless wars or not, something the u.s. wants. why not rule out? >> because i think the president is very good when he's making deals and negotiating not to rule out anything because he wants to preserve that leverage in negotiations. and so i think that's what he's doing here. >> israel's far right lawmakers are hailing trump's plan. the palestinian authority says the
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move would be a recipe for chaos. meantime, here in washington, democrats on capitol hill are slamming the president's idea. while some republicans don't seem willing to jump on board so quickly. cnn's nic robertson is live with us now for more reaction. london in london. nic, what can you tell us? >> yeah, just last week, boris, when this was beginning to become an idea that president trump supported the idea of pushing out gazans from gaza. i spoke to a regional diplomat who said to me, just look at the people in gaza, the gazans, they're going back to their piles of rubble. so you know what? we did that today. we sent our cameraman down there to go and talk to them. and they were adamant they don't want to leave. here's what they said. >> all of our children's homes have been demolished and our house is half destroyed. rain comes into the house, cold is coming in and we will still stay. whatever happens, even if we stay in the tent. even if they give us castles and villas, we are not leaving our lands.
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>> i want to die in my land to stay in it. i was born in gaza, lived in gaza, studied in gaza. i got married here and had my children. whatever happens, i will never leave it. >> and it's not just the people of gaza who are saying this. we've heard today from the king of jordan. jordan's one of the countries that president trump suggested these gazans could go to. and he has said, we reject the idea of displacement. we've heard that from the french today, french officials keir starmer the british prime minister in parliament today answering questions. got to got questions about this because it's such a sensitive topic. and he said look, absolutely gazans have a right to go home. they have a right to rebuild their homes. and he said we should be supporting them in that. that is that is pretty straight up rejection. and i think what is interesting, first out the gate to respond last night with the saudis, who very quickly said we only support a two state solution with the palestinians.
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they're not taking on trump on the issue of pushing out gazans, but it's clear. it's obvious. and i've heard this behind the scenes from diplomats that if you talk about pushing out the gazans from gaza, you end the possibility of a two state solution. so the message very clear from the region, boris, don't do it. it's a bad idea. that's the message. >> nic robertson, thanks so much. let's expand the conversation now with cnn military analyst and retired air force colonel cedric leighton and cnn global affairs analyst kim dozier. thank you both. always great to see you. kim, aside from being highly unlikely as a resolution for gaza, these kind of comments also serve as a recruiting tool for jihadi groups. >> absolutely. i mean, this is the third rail in middle east politics. you do not fulfill the worst fears of everyone in the middle east that the u.s. would be on israel's side in all things by saying something like this. and this will be a recruiting poster for al qaeda, for i.s.i.s. most of all, for
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hamas. the moment anyone tries to move the palestinians out of gaza, you've got something like 2 million gazans there, more than half of them do not support hamas right now. but the moment you tell them that, you've got to leave because of a u.s. plan backed by israel, every single one will join hamas and fight. >> so this just isn't going to happen. this thing that trump is, is talking about, right? i mean, but it forces everyone to react to it. they have to work through the details of it. why this detail? that thing isn't going to work. talk a little bit about that, cedric. and sort of the oxygen that that swallows up when this whole thing kind of seems like a futile exercise. >> yeah, this is really interesting. just from a psychological standpoint, brianna, because what you're looking at here is a, you know, as you mentioned, kim, this is the third rail of middle eastern politics. and what that really means is if you start talking about this kind of thing, then you're not talking about
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implementing phase two of the ceasefire. you're not talking about what comes next. you're not talking about good governance for gaza or protecting the palestinians who live there, or frankly, the israelis on the other side of the border. >> or what you do about hamas. >> or what you do hamas about hamas, because hamas all of a sudden ceases to exist in this kind of fantasy world that we're living in right now. and if hamas doesn't exist in the fantasy world, but it exists in reality, then you're going to have a problem. because if you go in there from a military standpoint or a diplomatic standpoint or even a humanitarian standpoint, and you don't realize what the threats actually are, you are going in into a very dangerous situation that is going to put people not only at risk, but it will kill people. >> it's almost as if we didn't live through iraq, right? exactly. i do wonder, colonel, the white house keeps talking about bringing in regional partners. what regional partner would support this? >> well, you know, we i think certainly jordan and egypt are
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off the table when it comes to this. they're not going to be accepting anybody from gaza. at least that's what they tell us now. and they've told us that for decades. then you look at gulf state partners, potentially. one clue might be the qataris, you know, based on the nuanced expressions from the foreign minister. however, however, they have not done this up until this point. nobody has mustered in all arab force of peacekeepers. nobody has come in and said, okay, we're going to take over. we're going to use troops, let's say, from the african union, or we're going to use troops from the arab league. none of that has happened, and the un is not willing to do any of this kind of these kinds of maneuvers. there's no peacekeeping force like we have in lebanon, or had at least on the golan heights. so this is the kind of thing that we're getting into. it's basically unchartered territory from a diplomatic standpoint, and it's an area where you really can't
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move forward because there are no structures in place to make it real. >> and just to jump in on that, one of the things that qatari foreign minister was saying, an interesting take. he was emphasizing in public comments today. yes, we gulf nations need to work together to rebuild gaza, but right now we're concentrating on phase two of the negotiations as if to say, don't look at all this craziness over here. we're staying focused on the one thing that will drive us forward. good attempt. the problem is, now that president trump has said that out loud, and his white house press secretary has doubled down on it. the main message it sends is that this administration will not support a two state solution. most importantly that it won't force israel to make painful territorial sacrifices that would be needed to make two separate states possible. >> so that sort of jumps off of nic robertson's point. tell me you don't support the two state solution without telling me you
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don't support the two state solution. not going to come out and just say that. right. so what is it? we see what this what the effect this has on that conversation. where do you go from there. >> well, one of the things is this does jolt all the operators in the region that, look, this white house doesn't see anyone to talk to on the palestinian side. so you all have to work together to step in and present a credible option behind closed doors to president trump. you also have to rush in the diplomats. i've been speaking to arab diplomats former regional diplomats. they're like, we got to get to him behind closed doors and make our case to him, because the israelis already beat us to it. >> but can i ask you, because it is hard to see who who on the palestinian side would be the one leading the charge in some kind of conversations? so then why is it still important to acknowledge a path forward, even in the absence of making any real progress or being able to,
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at this point in time? right now? >> well, one of the main things that trump wants is expansion of abraham accords. and the only way to do that is to get saudi arabia to sign on. and saudi arabia has said again, in the past 24 hours, it is not possible without a two state solution. so they are holding firm to that and we're frozen until they move forward. >> yeah, that's going to complicate everything because the saudis are key to this. and if they don't move forward with this idea, with this, if they stick with the two state solution idea, which they will, that is going to make this basically untenable. >> kim. cedric, thank you so much to both of you. appreciate it. and still to come, more than 2 million federal workers now have just one more day to decide. are they going to take a buyout offer and leave their jobs, or are they going to risk getting fired anyway, even if they don't? as the white house plans sweeping layoffs? >> plus, first buddy elon musk playing a big role in efforts to shrink the federal government. and he appears to be using the
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decide is tomorrow, and cnn has learned that the white house is now threatening widespread layoffs. soon after that deadline. cnn's jeff zeleny joins us now live from the white house. jeff, what are you hearing as this deadline comes closer well, it's certainly one of the central questions being asked among federal workers here in washington, but also in all corners of the country where they work. >> is are they going to accept the layoff offer, the the buyout offer that would technically pay them until september? they have to make a decision by tomorrow. now, this is all part of a very accelerated process of trying to reshape the workforce. but right now there's about 24 hours left in that. and a few details of this we can put on screen here and show you how federal workers have until tomorrow to make that decision. there has been some questions. if this is actually a legal deal, most workers are being advised that yes, it is any government employee can
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accept this is viewed as an off ramp, if you will, for federal workers who do not want to come back to the office full time. it varies agency by agency, by agency. but underscoring all of this, boris is just this idea again, of some agencies being dismantled. the funding for others being squeezed. it's a moment for the federal workforce here that could change dramatically in the trump administration. and that is indeed by design. then after this, those layoffs might come after that. >> yeah. and jeff, president trump and elon musk have continued to make moves to dismantle usaid. how are those steps fitting with trump's view of middle east policy? >> boris, that's one of the interesting conundrums here, or contradictions, if you will, because even as the president is talking about sort of reshaping the gaza strip, he said the u.s. will will own it. it will take several years, of course, if that were ever to happen, likely it is not. however, what agency
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would do some relief? what agency would do the aid? so the whole idea of why foreign aid is necessary is being underscored by the president's plan yesterday, which of course is controversial, even as the usaid and other foreign aid programs are being dismantled here. so it just shows that every one of these decisions, that it sounds popular and easy to shrink government. the question is, how and where does that leave the government in terms of readiness and other things? so there are some very deep questions here underlying all of these early moves here by the trump administration. >> jeff zeleny live for us at the white house. thanks so much, jeff. brianna. >> we've also learned that the cia is now the first u.s. intel agency to offer buyouts to all of its employees. as new director john ratcliffe tries to shift the agency's culture to align with the trump agenda, a cia spokesperson said the move was part of the director's efforts to, quote, ensure the cia workforce is responsive to the administration's national
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security priorities and said the changes are part of a holistic strategy to infuse the agency with renewed energy. let's discuss this with republican congressman pat fallon of texas. he is on the house intel and also the house armed services committees. sir, as i mentioned, you're on the intel committee. you see this buyout offer at the cia. do you worry about a brain drain at a key agency like that that, you know, could lead to the next 9/11? >> well, actually, brianna, i'll tell you, the really high quality agents that we have within the cia are probably going to stay because they're very good at their jobs. and people that are very good at their jobs tend to like their jobs, and they want to continue contributing to the country. i talked to john ratcliffe, who was actually my predecessor in congress when he was the national director for intelligence, and he was saying that unfortunately, a lot of folks at headquarters in his agency really weren't, you know, carrying their water. and so taking some of those folks and welcoming them back to the
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private sector would be a good thing. >> what do you mean, not carrying their water? what were they doing? >> they weren't doing their jobs. they were very inefficient. and there are clearly some people, if you think that the federal, the 1.7 million folks that work for the federal government that are not military are operating at maximum efficiency, that's one thing. but then i can sell you a bridge in brooklyn, or we can ride to work on a unicorn. i just don't think that's the case. i mean, most private companies don't operate at maximum efficiency, and that's what doge is all about, is simply getting a dollar and getting the bang for the buck that we can for the american taxpayer. so we all benefit. this shouldn't be a republican or democratic thing. this isn't partisan. this is just about the government working at best and saving american taxpayers money. >> trump is gutting. usaid. he has said that it is run by radical lunatics. it also, though, provides carrots to other countries that are actually mutually beneficial to the united states. and without them, china will step in and
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fill that void. do you think that's smart? >> well, let me let me tell you, brianna, when under the biden administration in 2023, when usaid did their own report and said and found that only one out of every $10 that is spent is reaching people in need abroad, that's only 10%. so that's not maximum efficiency, and we can do far better. of course, i strongly believe and i believe also this administration acknowledges that working with foreign nations and providing aid, the proper types of aid to the proper type of countries is beneficial because there is a belt and road initiative that beijing and the communists and china are doing, and they will fill that vacuum, but we don't need to waste it on, say, $7 billion to canada so they can have bipartisan bipoc seminars. canada is a wealthy nation. they quite frankly shouldn't receive any foreign aid from the united states. >> i'm not aware of the usaid review that you speak of. i'll do a check in to that. i will note that the republican chairman of the senate armed
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services committee, roger wicker, said that usaid. he said this to our manu raju is, quote, our way to combat belt and road in the competition with china. is he wrong? >> i don't think the president is saying that he wants to eliminate the mission. i think he's saying he wants to do it more efficiently, and. >> he's saying usaid is the way to do that. is roger wicker wrong? >> no, usaid, maybe not under its current leadership is the way to do it. but there's a mechanism in which to have and dispenseoreign aid properly. >> okay. so you as i mentioned, you sit also on the house armed services committee and we are expecting layoffs of the civilian federal workforce. i wonder if you are expecting layoffs or dismissals of any of the military leadership any time soon. >> well, that's going to be the
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purview of the commander in chief. but clearly we need to take our most talented folks and reward them. and folks that aren't doing their jobs well, they need to go. and, i mean, it was the father of modern progressivism, franklin delano roosevelt talked about public sector unions and how problematic they are. so i would agree with fdr in that regard. >> can you guarantee that there will not be a political purge of military brass, of general and flag officers by this administration? >> i think the president is going to focus on what the military does best, and that is projecting power, both soft and hard power and lethality. and the generals and admirals that can do that, i think will stay. and the ones that can't will go. and that's the purview of any commander in chief. >> so it sounds like you are expecting some kind of purge. >> i didn't say that at all. not at all. you said. >> you expect they will go. >> the president. >> how are they going to go, do you think? are they going to volunteer? >> no, i'm expecting not. it's
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not a political purge. what i said was people that aren't doing their jobs are not. >> what does that mean? >> we'll go. that has nothing to do with politics. that means if you're not one of the top performers, then you will probably. that doesn't matter if it's the military or anybody in federal government, then you won't be employed longer. that's what i would do if i was. i want the best people. i want the ones that have the most merit. and that's what the president is doing. >> so you expect that if there are dismissals in the military, it will be based entirely on performance, on whether or not they're the top performer. >> absolutely. >> okay. and also, you are yes. you are on the personnel. subcommittee. um, are you aware i mean, i know you're aware that military families need a second income for their service member to serve. that's we live in a two income economy. that's kind of just how it is most of the time. most of the time for most families. are you aware how many military spouses and also retiring service members are
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being caught up in this return to work eo and this hiring freeze? >> well, i just actually got the gavel. i'm the subcommittee chairman for military personnel, and i just got it. and we just are. we haven't met yet as a committee, but one of the things that we want to focus on is quality of life issues for our military personnel, not just the person serving, but their whole family. and also we have a recruiting crisis that we have seen other than the marine corps. the other three branches have not met their recruiting goals year. >> over year. i'm not asking you about recruiting goals. with all due respect, sir, i'm asking you because i talked to military spouses. >> life issues. >> okay? but i'm talking to you about there are service members who cannot stay because they have, you know, multiple children and a spouse, and they can't stay and serve if their spouse cannot have a job. many of them are gainfully employed in the federal government. it is a huge employer of military spouses. it's also a huge employer of veterans like yourself who have transitioned
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out of service and into some into the private sector, but a lot of them into the federal workforce. are you aware of how many of them are being affected by this? because i'm hearing from a ton of them. >> and you're hearing that someone has lost their job, or they fear that they're going to lose your job. because, again, if you're a federal worker and you're doing a great job, i don't think you have anything to worry about. >> no, it's an issue of remote work. the opm guidance that is supposed to exempt military spouses who are remote workers is not being honored in some agencies, you have teleworking spouses who, when their service members, including in the special forces navy seals, they have their service member going on deployments. they have three children, and they are being told that they need to drive, you know, 40 miles an hour and a half each way to work. and back when telework was allowing them to work before their kids got up. get their kids to school or
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to daycare, work after their kids went to bed so that they could do. and these are people, sir, who are working very hard. they see this as service. these are military spouses who are viewing their federal work as service. the way their service members in all of these service branches view their service. are you aware of this? it doesn't sound. >> like it, brianna. brianna. brianna, can i ask you a question? was this telework available prior to covid, or was this something that was born out. >> of covid? >> do you know that? >> can you answer prior to covid, sir? >> due to covid. >> prior to covid. >> covid it was. >> yes. >> okay. they could telework. okay. and so what you're saying now is they're not being allowed to telework. or is somebody just telling you that because it sounds anecdotal? >> it's not anecdotal, sir. okay. it's not anecdotal. i'm telling you, it's not anecdotal. >> so, no, brianna, what i'm asking you is, did somebody tell you this? did they call you up on the phone or did you read about it in an article? no, i'm asking the question, sir.
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>> i'm talking to dozens of military spouses. they had telework before covid. they are in a position where they will not be able to maintain their work because of this return to work. eo, even the opm guidance involving remote work is not being honored to the word by some of these agencies, which is going to have to force them out of the workforce because they cannot manage their families and their job. >> well, we're going to have to take a look at that. i haven't seen that. and you've talked to apparently 18 or so military spouses. i've talked to plenty of military spouses. i haven't heard that, but i'm certainly welcoming to look into it. >> i've talked to significantly more than 18, but all right. >> well, you just told me dozens. so i guess what is dozens then is dozens. hundreds of people. dozens are in twelves. >> it's not anecdotal. i will tell you that this is widespread across many, many agencies. >> and it's done scientific
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research on it already. okay. >> i've done reporting on it. that's what i do i report. >> okay. >> but it's a broad problem. i'm just letting you know, congresswoman, we'll check back. >> in between reporting and spin. so there's that. okay. >> i'm not i'm not spinning. i'm not spinning it, sir. these are military spouses who are the backbone of the military. and this is what they're saying is happening, some of whom support trump. >> okay. okay. thank you. >> all right, congressman, thank you so much for being with us. and right now, protesters are turning out in cities across america. boris. >> yes, indeed, they are branding these rallies as part of the 5051 movement. 50 protests, 50 states one day. these are live pictures of what protesters say is an important moment to oppose what they see as, quote, the trump administration's attempts to destroy our freedoms and human rights. at one protest, demonstrators held up signs reading stop the steal and no kings in the usa. you see, the aerials are from raleigh
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springfield. these are from boston. gatherings are planned throughout the day and some protesters are planning marches from state capitals to local i.c.e. field offices. these are live images of demonstrations in austin, i believe there they are outside the state capital. you see the signs there? no human being is illegal. et cetera. some that i probably shouldn't say on tv. similar scenes are playing out at the capitol building in denver. a lot to watch for across the country as these protests are ongoing. we're going to stay on top of this story and get back to you after a quick break. stay with news central. >> with fatigue and lightheadedness. i knew something was wrong. then i saw my doctor and found out i have afib and that means there's about a five times greater risk of stroke symptoms like irregular heartbeat, heart racing, chest pain, shortness of breath, fatigue, or lightheadedness can come and go. but if you have afib, the risk of stroke is always there. if
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official is accusing fbi leadership of insubordination by refusing to identify a core team of bureau employees who worked on january 6th investigations. cnn senior justice correspondent evan perez joins us now. evan, this memo also appears aimed at calming fears of a mass firing, but it doesn't seem to be having that intended effect. >> it's kind of hitting in the opposite direction. now, this is a memo from emil bove who is the acting deputy attorney general of the justice department right now. and he was trying to essentially tell fbi employees that i've been asking for a smaller group of of fbi agents. i've been trying to identify who worked on these january 6th cases. and your bosses have essentially been disobeying my orders. so that's the reason why i sent this memo last week, which implicates thousands of fbi employees who worked on january 6th cases. i'll read you a part of what he says to try to again assuage these fears, that
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this is going to be a prelude to a mass firing. i'll show you part of this memo on screen. it says no fbi employee who simply followed orders and carried out their duties in an ethical manner with respect to january 6th investigations, is at risk of termination or other penalties. and then he goes on to say, say, the only individuals who should be concerned are those who acted with corrupt or partisan intent, who blatantly, blatantly defied orders from the justice department leadership or who exercised discretion in weaponizing the fbi. now the question is, what is this weaponization going to look like? how are they going to define it? pamela bondi, who is the new attorney general? she just got sworn in just this morning at the white house. she is upstairs now at the justice department. we expect that she's going to be signing some orders. one of them is to create this this new weaponization working group, which is not only going to look into the jack smith cases, but also looking
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into the cases that were brought against trump in new york. so alvin bragg, the district attorney in manhattan who oversaw the hush money case, as well as letitia james, who is the attorney general that oversaw the the the other case, the the fraud case against the trump organization. so all of that is going to be included in this weaponization look, which includes, by the way, the fbi agents who worked on january 6th cases. >> yeah, this is a huge story. and it would be leading our shows were it not for so many other huge stories. evan perez, thank you so much for the update. brianna. >> elon musk and his team are bulldozing a path through the federal government in their effort to cut what musk calls waste. but we've seen this playbook before. when musk took over twitter. cnn's clare duffy is with us now on this. and, clare, i know you've been talking to former twitter employees. what are they telling you? >> yeah, brianna. >> a lot of former twitter employees are having deja vu now, watching what elon musk is doing within the federal government. one of the most striking things, of course, that
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we've seen musk do at the government level is just the speed with which he has tried to cut costs, cut staff, cut entire departments. you'll remember that when he took over twitter, it was just days before he had laid off the company's senior executive team, and 50% of the company's staff and one former tweet, twitter senior employee, told me that this is in keeping with musk's sort of algorithm for change, the first step of which this employee said is to question every requirement. assume that every requirement that anybody ever gives you is dumb. question it. eliminate it wherever possible, and essentially ask, do we even need this thing? should we and should we have it to begin with and then start cutting from there? we are now hearing some of these former twitter employees offering advice to federal government workers, both quietly and publicly, on everything from how to communicate securely with your colleagues on platforms like signal to more personal advice about navigating such upheaval. one former twitter employee posted on x. she said don't comply without question. don't fold over in advance.
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but really all i would get as a resignation. so really interesting, they're claire duffy, thanks. that's right. >> i shouldn't say around it that we heard from and they the government reneges on their promises here that the employees resignation will essentially be moot. >> but again, i think it's a matter of do these employees trust those statements from the government? >> yeah, especially if they've moved or gone on somewhere else, you know, and they can't just come back to that employment. it's a it's a big gamble. clare duffy thank you so much. we'll be right back. >> look at him streaming directv without a satellite dish. did you see how fast that guy found the game? he hardly struggled at all. every day is a struggle for us pigeons. and he's flipping through channels faster than a falcon. you know, i dated a falcon once. >> life, diabetes. there's no slowing down. each day is a unique blend of people to see and things to do. that's why you choose glucerna to help manage blood sugar response uniquely designed with carb steady glucerna. bring on the day.
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our lives for many, many years now. as people argue about this issue and discuss the issue of transgender women competing in women's sports, and that we're talking about little kids, girls all the way up through colleges and into the pros and the olympics. and even at the olympic level, this is domestic, but even at the olympic level, boris. both world aquatics and world athletics, that's the track and field governing body and the swimming governing body have said basically what the president will be saying in a few minutes, which is to say if someone has gone through male puberty, they cannot compete in women's sports. so this isn't just a u.s. issue. this is a worldwide issue. >> you mentioned world aquatics. i remember leah thomas, this trans athlete. she was a female swimmer at the university of pennsylvania, and she gained national attention. i wonder how states, schools and sports organizations have handled the
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issue since then. aside from these global organizations, more sort of local ones like the ncaa. >> it's been a patchwork. some states saying it's okay. some not. in fact, charlie baker, the president of the ncaa, has said that he is looking for guidance that the ncaa is looking for leadership on this. also, charlie baker, a month and a half ago at a congressional hearing, was asked how many athletes there are in the ncaa, over a half million. and then the next question was, how many are transgender? less than ten. so we are talking about a very small number of people, but that hasn't changed the headlines and the arguing and the confusion and the emotion of something that truly is much bigger than just those ten athletes or less than ten athletes. and the lpga. women's golf just in the last month and a half, they also came up with the same policy that, of course, that swimming and track and field did worldwide. which is to say again, if you've gone
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through male puberty, you cannot compete in the women's category. so the trend seems to be moving the way that the president is moving, even, of course, as there's so much emotion and of course, hate, which no one wants to see as people work with the science. and i suspect, boris, that this is something that will be being discussed for decades to come, especially involving science, versus the emotion of the story and the issue. >> yeah, and it's quite possible, even likely, that this executive order could wind up in court. christine brennan appreciate the analysis. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> and that executive order banning trans athletes from women's sports is coming up next hour. we're going to bring it to you when it happens. stay with us. >> erin burnett out front tonight at seven on cnn. >> like a relentless weed. moderate to severe ulcerative colitis symptoms can keep coming back. start to break away from uc with tremfya with rapid
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not to stay distracted. it's going to be tough. the eagles, they have this monumental task of trying to take down the chiefs and their otherworldly quarterback, patrick mahomes. he's not even 30 years old yet. five super bowl appearances in seven seasons three. of three wins. and i asked him if there's any added motivation this time around. and there is. it's his welcoming his third child into this world with his wife, brittany. just a few weeks ago. and this super bowl sunday will be baby golden's first time seeing dad play in person. he's not just playing for another title, he's playing for his family. listen to this. >> it's always motivating whenever you have another baby. i mean, just because i want them to have the same experiences that the other two had and she's she's been amazing. she's been sleeping well. mom's been extremely happy and i'm excited for her to be able to, to come to. i think this would be her first football game at the super bowl, and hopefully we can get her a win.
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>> now on the other sideline, one of the eagles star players, running back saquon barkley. he's playing with some added motivation to super bowl. sunday is his birthday. he's turning 28 years old. he put together one of the greatest seasons we've seen from a running back in nfl history. he's an mvp candidate. here he is on the big moment this sunday on his birthday during the game. listen., i think it's pretty cool that the super bowl lands on my birthday. >> um, you know, not only my birthday, khuza'a birthday and sam's birthday too. um, but yeah, i don't think, you know, winning the super bowl on your birthday or whether it's the day before or the day after. i think just winning the super bowl in general is such a cool moment, and it puts you in football royalty and it's something that you want to accomplish since you're a little kid. so whether it was on my birthday or not, to be able to win it would mean everything would mean the world. >> it's his first super bowl. he mentioned his teammate, cooper dejean. it's his birthday as well. cooper wears number 33. saquon wears number
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