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news. any moment now, speaker mike johnson and senior house republicans are set to meet with president trump at the white house. and it comes as tensions flare among gop lawmakers over advancing trump's agenda, putting the president's legislative plans at risk. cnn's jeff zeleny joins us now from the white house. and cnn's manu raju is live on capitol hill. jeff, to you first. what do we know? >> look, pamela. >> the center. of the. >> president's legislative agenda and the future of the president's legislative agenda hinges on meetings like this. and we know that house republicans will be here shortly to meet with the president. and essentially, he wants to sign a bill that will, you know, be the heart of his legislative agenda. but the question is, what kind of bill will it be? there are very different approaches here. the house wants to do one bill. the senate wants to break it into a couple of different bills. the president has said repeatedly he does not have a preference. he talked about one big, beautiful bill. but i am told in recent days he is coming around to the idea being pushed
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by senate republicans of a separate bill. the first would be for some of his big priorities, like the border, like some energy policy ideas, like some immigration ideas. and a second bill would be later for his tax cuts. the house is worried about getting a couple of bills through, so they would like to do one big bill. so at issue now is, is the president going to be essentially a referee here? we know that he is not very big on the small print, not very big on the details. he just wants to get this accomplished. but there is a sense of frustration here at the white house that house republicans have been moving very slowly on this. so the president right now will be meeting with house republicans, and tomorrow he is having all senate republicans down to mar-a-lago. so certainly he is hearing from a lot of those senate republicans. but, pam, the bottom line to all of this, with republicans in control of the house and the senate for the first time in six years, they have to show that they can govern. and that has not been their strong suit. >> manu, tell us a little bit more about passing this agenda
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and why it has republicans at odds. >> yeah, this is a major clash that is now developing between the house republicans and senate republicans. and it's not just a process issue. it's also a policy dispute, too. and it could threaten to sink the entire agenda. basically, what the house republicans are pushing for, they want to try to lump everything in into this massive bill that includes energy issues, immigration issues, national defense issues, and also a sweeping tax overhaul. that last piece, the tax overhaul, is what has caused a lot of divisions within the ranks. senate republicans want to punt on dealing with the tax issue until much later. and because of the mechanisms in congress, they're trying to use a budget process that allows them to circumvent a republican filibuster, a democratic led filibuster in the senate, meaning they have to they could pass it along straight party lines because of that process and the peculiarities of moving around capitol hill, they have to make these strategic decisions now. otherwise it could change how they pursue this. it could also affect how they they actually could pass
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is not not an option. >> in the. >> direction of democrats. >> in opposing. >> but this is a long, complicated process that the senate republicans want to begin next week. it's a two step process. first, they need to approve a budget blueprint that lays out the broad parameters that needs to be approved by both chambers, the exact same plan. and then they have to draft the details of that binding legislation. and that will get even more complicated. so, pamela, if they can't agree on the sequencing and they can't agree on how to move ahead, how are they going to agree on the details? that's going to be a big question at the white house, just in a matter of moments here. >> yeah, that is that is the question, right? jeff zeleny manu raju. thank you. well, we are just over two weeks into trump's second term and elon musk's doge has been on a tear. the world's richest man seems determined to remake the federal government in his image, and he's doing it at breakneck speed. in the span of just 17 days, musk has effectively killed die in the federal government, offered buyouts to millions of federal workers,
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gained access and read only, according to the administration, to the treasury payment system, ousted key civil servants, effectively shuttered key federal agencies like usaid, and take aim at others, including medicare and the department of education. all of this in less time than it's taken for some of trump's cabinet picks to be confirmed, including those who head who would head some of the agencies in musk's crosshairs. and cnn is also learning this morning that just days into trump's term, musk's lieutenants at the treasury asked its acting head to shut off all payments to usaid, a move so out of line that it prompted the acting secretary to question whether it was even legal. musk's crusade appears to be raising some eyebrows in trump's orbit. one trump operative confided to wire that the tech mogul is getting, quote, too big for his britches and warned a collision course could be coming. joining us now for more is texas republican congressman brandon gill. he serves on the house oversight
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doge subcommittee. congressman, welcome to the show. i believe this is the first time we've had you on. thanks for coming. so i just want to start off with. >> thanks for having me. >> what is your current understanding of what specifically elon musk is actually doing within the federal government right now with his tech staffers in the name of doge? >> well, the. >> american people delivered. >> president trump. >> a very. clear mandate to root out. >> waste. >> fraud and abuse in the federal government. and, you know, let me tell you, we have been talking about bringing elon musk in for months and months and months now. i think my colleagues on the other side of the aisle like to act as if this is something novel, as if this is something that's unexpected. this is part of the trump mandate. getting rid of wasteful spending. i think that my colleagues on the other side of the aisle seem not to be upset about our tax dollars going to idiotic projects, particularly within usaid. but the fact that all of this waste is finally
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being exposed. and elon musk is playing a key role in that. >> so so what specifically, if you could just lay out because you're a member of the subcommittee on doge oversight, what specifically is elon musk doing right now with his his staffers that he has brought in to washington? what systems are they gaining access to? what are they doing with the confidential data they're accessing some with private information about americans. just if you could just lay that out for us. >> well, first of all, let's be very clear. elon musk and his team are not acting as outside advisers. they are acting as employees of the relevant federal agencies. they have security clearances. they're complying with applicable federal laws. so they're doing this entirely above board. but you saw a great example of this with what elon musk has been doing with usaid, for instance, he's uncovered that we have been sending millions of dollars for transgender activism in south america, millions of dollars for dei scholarships in
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burma. these are things that the american people largely didn't know about until now, and we're going after them. we are going after this kind of waste, fraud and abuse. taxpayers all over the country are tired of their money being spent in ways that don't benefit them, are being spent in partisan left wing political projects, particularly on the other side of the globe. and that's what we're going after. >> okay, so. >> so look, americans, of course, they want the government to be more efficient. they want their taxpayer dollars going to good places. i just want to go back, though. you said they're all acting above board. how do you know that? because i'm not hearing specifics from you about exactly what elon musk and his staffers are doing. the programs are getting access to the information. what they're doing with that data, how they're getting security clearances. i'm not hearing specifics from you, so i'm just wondering how, you know, they're all acting above board and that abuse isn't happening, given getting
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rid of abuse is one of the key missions of your committee. >> well, they've been given the same security clearances that any other relevant employee of these applicable federal agencies would need. they are complying with federal laws. i think that we need to allow them to do the work that republicans were given a mandate to do. these people are. >> are you. >> getting briefings? >> are you? i just want to i just want to understand and i'm sorry to interrupt because i'm just trying to understand. i think the american people are, too. how do you know that? are you getting disclosures, briefings? i know elon musk hasn't been subpoenaed. republicans blocked that. so how do you know this? where is your information coming from to be able to say that with authority? >> we've been getting close. we've been having close contact with the white house. but i want to be very clear about what happened yesterday and the oversight committee hearing that was pure political theatrics from our colleagues on the other side of the aisle. democrats have an opportunity to invite a minority witness to every
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hearing that we have. they chose a political excuse me, they chose a college professor. they could have invited elon musk. then once the committee began, they demanded that chairman comer invite elon musk whenever they could have done it to begin with. and then they began this partisan political games of trying to subpoena elon musk. this is pure theatrics. democrats can play political games, but republicans are focused on rooting out waste, fraud and abuse from our federal government and doing real substantive work to save american taxpayer dollars. >> comer is the chair of the committee, so it would make sense for him to ask elon musk to come testify. and again, it's still. >> not have that opportunity as well. >> democrats too. but they they they did want a subpoena to happen. you were right. and that that was blocked by the republicans. i do want to just follow up with you because you talk about, look, americans knew what the donald trump package would be, and they put him in office. okay. but there is some polling out from quinnipiac
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showing that 53% oppose musk's role in the administration. a lot of americans are looking at this and saying, wait a second, we didn't elect elon musk, and there's not a lot of transparency. i've been trying to get some information from you. there just isn't the transparency. why did republicans, you know, why aren't republicans doing more, especially in your role as oversight on the oversight committee to find out what's happening in the federal government from elon musk and unelected special government official with billions of dollars of contracts before the federal government and a staffer, some as young as 19 years old. why don't you want to know more? >> well, first of all, democrats had the opportunity to invite elon musk to the committee that's on them. if they want to ask him questions, they are welcome to do that. but what i'd like to know, if we want to talk about transparency, how do we not know until now that taxpayer dollars have been going? we've been spending millions of taxpayer dollars on transgender activism in south america. there is an enormous
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amount of waste in our federal government, and we're uncovering new, just egregious ways that the federal government has been spending our taxpayer dollars. we're uncovering new ways every single day. that's where the lack of transparency is. and we finally have an executive branch and president trump, who is serious about going after this waste. and that's exactly what the american people elected president trump to do. that's exactly what they elected house republicans to do. and that's what we're doing. >> and i just want to note, gerry connolly, your colleague on the committee on the other side of the aisle, he has invited elon musk to come. he has said, please come testify to this committee. we haven't heard from anything. we haven't seen any disclosures from him, despite a federal law requiring conflict of interest disclosures. so i do want to note that we're also doing a fact check on what you said. my producer is doing that right now. but i want to ask you something, because i know some viewers might be watching this right now, congressman, and saying, well, hold on a second. so you're all on board with what elon musk and his team of
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staffers are doing. would you be okay if democrats were doing this? if, for example, george soros came in under a democratic administration and had his staffers gain access to sensitive programs about americans and their personal information and dismantling agencies, would you be okay with that? >> it's amazing that democrats are acting as if this is something that's novel. i've been talking to my constituents for months and months and months about elon musk coming in, having a serious business person coming in and using his team to go through the federal budget with a fine tooth comb. there is nothing that's surprising about what's happening right now. and again, if my colleagues want to invite him, they could have done that yesterday. and you're welcome to fact check anything i have to say. i invite you to do that. in fact, i think that given the record of fact checkers over the past four years, i don't think many people are going to put a whole lot of stock in it. but you're welcome to do so. well. >> we'll we'll be sure to look at the source. i'm not saying
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you're right or wrong, i'm just saying i have a duty on this show to make sure that any, any information that goes out is, is fact checked. that's just a personal that's what i have to do. but fair enough. so i just want to go back though. would you be okay? because it is unprecedented what elon musk is doing? i know you say it's not a surprise, but it is. i mean, we have not seen the world's richest man come in and go agency to agency with his staffers. you know, they're all unelected and have access to these sensitive programs. would you be okay if democrats did this? if a george soros came in with his staffers and did the same thing that elon musk is doing, would you accept that? >> well, what's unprecedented is spending our taxpayer dollars on left wing partisan political projects all over the globe. that's what the american people are focused on. this is a result of this election. this is a result of president trump getting a very clear mandate from the american people to get rid of this kind of nonsense from our federal government, and
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we're doing it more efficiently than we've ever been done, than it's ever been done before. and again, the, the, the fury that we're seeing from the other side of the aisle isn't about this waste. it's not about paying for left wing activism on the other side of the globe. it's that it's being exposed finally. and that's what the american people want. >> it certainly want more transparency about everything, right? about how taxpayer dollars are being spent and about what is happening within their federal government. i do want to note that that they have done gender activism in south africa through gender based violence and promote women's empowerment. it's not possible, though, to verify the millions of dollars of taxpayer dollars being spent, but usaid would say it's not doing left wing activism. it's helping vulnerable populations. i take your point, though. look, a lot of americans want the money. >> to spend lgbt and transgender activism in guatemala. >> and look, and there's a big question with putting donald trump in office and what he has campaigned on, whether, you
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know, where that money should be going. and that is fair to discuss. that is fair to discuss. >> go ahead. and if democrats want to defend that, then they are absolutely welcome. if they want to go to the american people and tell the american people that they think that it's appropriate to spend millions of taxpayer dollars on radical transgender activism in foreign countries, and they are absolutely welcome to defend that. >> i want to follow up with you. you said you were hearing from your constituents. there are more than 7000 federal workers in your district who are likely impacted by these orders to either accept a buyout or be fired. they have until midnight to make a decision. what are you hearing from them? >> you know, my constituents are more focused than ever on our federal debt and our federal deficit, which is a result of biden level spending. they want to rightsize the federal government, and they want to get rid of left wing activism. we're spending, for example, over $500 million every single year to fund state sponsored media like
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npr and pbs to promote left wing values that are utterly antithetical to the american experience. that is a problem. that is what my constituents are focused on. >> it's journalism. but, you know, we can agree to disagree on that. i don't want to get into a for tat on that. congressman. i just want to follow up with this post that you had on x. you said that congresswoman ilhan omar, a u.s. citizen, should be deported to her home country of somalia. omar became a naturalized citizen at 17. why did you do that? >> melissa? my colleague ilhan omar, she is an american citizen. she is a member of the house of representatives. i didn't call for her to be deported, but i did say that america would be better off were she deported. i think that there is a serious problem, particularly given after the past four years of open borders of democrats facilitating the invasion of our country by illegal aliens. my colleague
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ilhan omar was advising illegal aliens, somalis, on how to evade i.c.e. detection. that is as un-american as you can possibly get. it's unbecoming of a congressperson. what evidence? absolutely. >> where are you getting that from? specifically, where are you getting that from? specifically? >> we have the audio of her doing that. but do you think that that interview. >> she is a. >> duly she is a duly elected member of congress. >> her duty. >> constituents put her. >> in office and customs of america not to represent foreign illegal aliens who shouldn't be here to begin with. and i think that she is. i think that that raises serious. >> helping people understand what the laws are. but listen. >> to whom is she most loyal? illegal aliens? somalis or american. >> citizens representing her constituents. >> legitimate question as a member of congress, congressman brandon gale, i really appreciate your time. i appreciate this conversation. i think it's really important. i and i think our viewers appreciate it as well. thank you so much, congressman, and look
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security, but punt on a tax overhaul. house republicans want the overhaul included in one bill, but can't agree on specifics. joining us now is senator jeff merkley, an oregon democrat. he is the ranking member of the senate budget committee. hi, senator. so republicans hold such a slim majority, right in both houses. do you feel this meeting speaks to larger difficulties facing the party? how do you think this is going to play out? >> well, right now, senator graham has said on the senate side, he is going to put forward a bill this friday. it will be up for discussion wednesday and thursday of next week. so the senate's proceeding with a reconciliation bill in a two part strategy. so first, addressing the issues of immigration and energy. meanwhile on the house side, they want to do a single bill, but they can't find a single bill that they can get a majority to agree on. and so they're rather stymied at the moment. and yet, reconciliation is the filibuster free pathway where republicans can move without democratic support. so it's essential to their plan.
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>> let me just ask you, i mean, there are some questions over democratic messaging and whether democrats need to get their act together when it comes to messaging and counter messaging right now. what do you say to that? >> well, what i can say is that everyone is speaking to the essence of what this project 2025 plan is being implemented, and it's three basic points. and the first point is to attack the programs that families depend on to be able to thrive and move into the middle class. one up the debt and third, give massive tax breaks to the richest americans. this is the great betrayal because trump ran on assisting families. but his plan, in fact, is to devastate families and help the richest among them. you could see it at inauguration, where he had the billionaires lined up behind him. this is government by and for the billionaires. >> so all right, i want to shift gears a little bit here, because you brought up project 2025 just around 21 hours ago. you kicked off the speeches opposing the
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nomination of russell vought to lead the office of management and budget. the protests went through the night. of course, vought is one of the top policy architects of the maga movement and a key author of project 2025. excuse me. you have called vought the most dangerous man in america. why do you say that? >> yeah, he is the most dangerous nominee. i mean, the public is more familiar with hegseth and others. tulsi gabbard. but in fact, it is this individual who believes that first, the presidency should be the equivalent powers to a king. an imperial presidency, and who believes that laws are just suggestions. so he is the driver of the president's ability to do what the supreme court has said they can't do, which is take the law that says you need to fund x, y, and z and decide to only fund what they want. and that is a violation of the separation of powers. and we've already seen law after law after
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law broken under russell vought guidance. this is well, for example, all of the inspector generals being fired. the law says you have to fire for cause and give 30 days notice. they ignored it, et cetera. and the big issue though is this separation of powers or the funding of programs. this is making the president both the congressional act or the congressional department and the executive department all in one. that's a king. that's why he's so dangerous. he's undermining the law and he's undermining the constitution. >> so just to follow up, because, you know, he obviously hadn't been in his official role yet when some of this stuff has been happening with omb. he was also the head of the omb in the last year of trump's first term. and the country survived. why do you consider him such an ominous threat now? >> well, look what he did in the last year of the last trump administration. he was the one who impounded the funds illegally for ukraine. and it led to the president's first impeachment and trial. then in
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the senate, he was the one who issued an executive order at the end of the last administration, which said that they were taking away the impartial professionals out of our government and preparing to replace them with loyalists who did not have the expertise. he's repeating the same things now. and by the way, you said he's not already. i mean, he's he's already over at omb deciding what meetings are held. he's acting as if he's already confirmed. we gave him a questionnaire of saying, hey, under what authority are you even in the building? you haven't been confirmed. and we got no answers back. his files are incomplete, and in that situation, the republican leadership of the senate has a responsibility to delay his confirmation. but they're not doing so because this is the the momentum of the imperial presidency and the republican majority in the senate. bowing to that and letting it run over the law and run over the
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constitution. >> so are you saying that basically they're abdicating their article one legislative branch duties by letting him become the head of omb.? >> absolutely. because this is an individual who came to our offices and said, hey, i know what the court said when nixon tried to impound funds. but you know what? president trump doesn't agree with the court, and neither do i. so we're going to do it. that type of straightforward decision making of violating the law and violating the constitution means this individual should be nowhere near any government office. >> and also, though, you know, the director of omb is a partisan job, you know, the duty is to enact the president's agenda. so why is he more dangerous than anyone else that trump would put in the job to carry out his wishes? >> well, this role and people are not so familiar with omb like they are the defense department or secretary of state and so forth. but this is the
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chief engineer of the administration. all of those executive orders that were issued in the first two weeks. this was under russell vought gaetz prescription. and not only was he the architect of project 2025, but he wrote the 180 day plan for the first 180 days of the trump administration. so he is the the key person. and to have the key person who says we're we're just going to violate the law. and, you know, if you don't like it, take it up with the courts knowing that the courts will take years to decide things. i mean, we we have an assumption of a foundation of law. and once that assumption is gone, you have erased the line between a republic in which there is a congress to make the laws and an executive to implement them, and a dictator and an imperial presidency, where the president is given the power to do both. and that is why he's so dangerous. >> i want to pivot to something else, because you're also a member of the senate foreign relations committee. what do you
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think about president trump's proposal for a gaza takeover and essentially relocate? now the white house is changing its tune, saying temporarily, nearly 2 million palestinians. what do you think? >> well, well, let's understand that a plan to depopulate gaza was the generals plan from the far right in netanyahu's cabinet to depopulate gaza so israel could take it over. now, president trump is talking about, well, we will help depopulate it. this would be a crime against humanity. this would be a massive violation of international law. and this would destroy the possibility of a palestinian state, which is why trump and netanyahu are giving some voice to it. there is only one way to break this cycle of hate and violence in the middle east, and that is for the palestinian people to have the opportunity to have their own country and pursue their own aspirations. this type of strategy is just going to increase the the hate and
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violation of basic human rights across the board. and it's a horrific it's a horrific idea. and we should all stand fiercely opposed to it. >> senator jeff merkley, thank you for coming on to share your perspective. we appreciate your time. up next, details about the unclassified email sent to the white house with the first name and last initial of every cia staffer over the last two years. >> i brought in. >> ensure max. >> protein with 30g of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. here, i'll take that in. >> sure. max protein, 30g protein. >> one gram of sugar and a protein. >> blend to feed muscles up to seven hours. >> lactate is 100% real milk just without the lactose. delicious too. just ask my old friend kevin. nothing like enjoying a cold one while watching the game. who's winning? we are my friend. we are. >> look out, cause here i come. have you always had trouble with
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cohen joins us now. zachary, you have been reporting on this. what threat does this email pose? >> yeah, pam, we're hearing a lot of concern about the counterintelligence threat here, and particularly because they sent it on an unclassified or in an unclassified email that opens the door to potentially exposing the identities of these new hires of these cia officers that were included in this list. and that includes people that are training to go undercover, people who can conduct their missions based purely around the fact that they are able to hide their true identity from everybody else. so that's been a prime target for foreign adversaries and foreign hackers in particular. we've seen them in the past target this unclassified white house email network. you might remember the opm hack just a few years ago was a massive breach by chinese linked hackers. russian hackers have also tried to gain access. so this really is the concern here that foreign adversaries are going to try to identify these individuals based on this list that was provided to the white house. and, look, the cia obviously values and prioritizes secrecy, right? the starbucks at
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needlessly at. >> risk here. so obviously this list was provided to the white house by cia after pressure from the trump administration to really comply with that executive order from trump to downsize the federal government. one source put it as this was the least bad option, sending only the first names and the first letter of the last name to try to obscure the identities of. >> not hard to figure it. >> out, right? right. but while also sort of, you know, going along with what the trump administration wanted here. at the end of the day, though, the cia says they were doing what trump directed them to do, saying, quote, we are complying with the executive orders and are providing requested information through the appropriate channels. but, i mean, ultimately, those concerns are still out there. and congressman haines and other democrats are still speaking out against them or speaking out about them. >> all right, zachary cohen, thank you. we'll be right back. >> okay, everyone. >> our mission is. >> to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. >> ensure with 27. >> vitamins and minerals,
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>> a deep well of hits. or is it going to be another takedown of drake? is he going to perform. not like us. especially given the fact that drake has filed suit against his own record label over that song for defamation, even though he did not name kendrick lamar as one of the defendants. pamela. >> so who are some of the other performers? >> well, ledisi is performing jon batiste. it's really going to be like a real like, um, new orleans flavor because of course, that's where the super bowl is being held. but kendrick is being joined by sza, who's a frequent collaborator with him, and she is going out on tour with him as well. but that's something else that people are looking for, because oftentimes with these halftime shows, we get surprise guests. and so he's had so many collaborators. people want to know in particular, is taylor swift going to perform with him because they collaborated on her bad blood song? and of course, she'll be there because someone special to her just happens to be playing again in the super bowl. so since she's already going to be there for her
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boyfriend travis kelce, playing in the super bowl, people want to see is she going to pop out and perform with him? you know, my colleagues and i have been talking about this and i personally, if i can venture my own opinion, i don't think she's going to do it. i think she wants to keep the focus on her boyfriend, who this is a huge deal for them to be returning to the super bowl, so i just don't see her taking to the stage to kind of take away the shine from him. but you never know. i mean, he's like i said, collaborated with so many people, including beyonce. i mean, just a lot of top names. so anybody could pop up with kendrick lamar. and a lot of people want to see lil wayne. you know, there was a lot of disappointment that lil wayne was not announced as the halftime performer because nothing says new orleans like lil wayne. so there's an expectation that kendrick lamar might give the people what they want and bring fellow rapper lil wayne on. so just lots of excitement. pamela cannot wait. >> all right. we cannot wait. lisa respers, france. thank you. we'll be right back. >> thank you.
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of 2025, set to be released tomorrow morning. economists estimate that 170,000 jobs were added last month, with the unemployment rate expected to hold steady at 4.1%. and while the data might be strong, some people who are looking for work are still struggling to find a job. and that's an especially important point to raise because federal workers, some are either taking buyouts or they could be laid off soon. they have until midnight tonight to make a decision. vanessa yurkevich has more. >> this is. >> what i'm doing now. >> in the middle of the week, in the middle of the night. working in a catering hall and minimum wage and begging for tips. but this is only temporary, right? it's only temporary. >> on paper, the jobs. >> market appears strong, but it's getting harder for people out of work to find new jobs, especially those looking for high paying, white collar positions. since the end of 2022, the number of people
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looking for work for more than six months is up by 45%. right now, we're on our way into deep brooklyn to meet with diane evans. she's 59 years old. she's been working in the hr industry for 35 years. but about a year ago, she was laid off from her job, where she was making over $200,000 a year. and since then, she's only been able to find one job that's working at a catering hall as a bathroom attendant. when you see the headlines, strong numbers, hundreds of thousands of jobs added. what do you think when you see that? >> that's not the reality that i see. that's not what i'm living. >> how would you compare this job market to all the other job market cycles that you've been through in your career? >> i've never seen anything like this. they call it the white collar recession. so it's like middle management and that kind of level. i'm just not getting the traction that i think i should get based on the amount of work i'm putting in. it's crazy. i've applied to over 1000 jobs in a year, which
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is crazy. >> and what is your success rate out of those 1000 jobs of getting a call back? >> um, i'm probably being generous here, but maybe one call to 25 applications, maybe more. >> this is. >> a lot. >> a lot of work. >> like, how much time are you spending every day? >> i start my day probably 730 ish in the morning. the first thing i do is go on linkedin. over 100 people have already clicked apply and they just posted it yesterday. people will say to me, why don't you get any job? you know, you're such a snob, you have to be a vp. i applied to lowe's, home depot, target, all kinds of stuff around. >> here that. >> rejection letters. i got a rejection letter from macy's. being a spritzer person, i worked in macy's when i was in college. like, are you kidding me? my oldest son, his friend, got me a job as a ladies room attendant at a catering hall, a
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very high end catering hall. but the first week or so was rough. i looked in the mirror and i cried. >> how much are you making? like an hour there at this job. 1650 1650. >> compared to the 100 i used to make. how did you figure out my salary? it was a little bit over $100 an. nir oz. macy's. >> oh, this is macy's you used to work at. >> yeah. >> the one that rejected me. i, you know, i did think that i was going to be able to make a decent living, to be able to save and, you know, have money for retirement. and my job's gone. my money's gone. and starting all over from scratch is scary right now. >> here we are. >> oh, this is charming. >> this isn't exactly the life i envisioned, but i'm trying to make lemon drop martinis out of
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