could take place and in which time frame they could take place as well. the russians, certainly at this point in time, saying, look, they are the ones who are making gains on the battlefield and therefore for them, they believe it's the u.s. and the ukrainians need to come to them with proposals. at the same time, you do feel here in moscow, john, that the russians also themselves believe that it is time for talks and possibly for this war to come to an end in the not too distant future. john. >> critical time, to be sure. frederik pleitgen, it is great to have you in moscow for this. thank you very much. a lot of news. a brand new hour of cnn news central starts now. >> a new day and new tariffs. president trump now preparing to hit all steel and aluminum imports into the u.s. and that could impact everything from home prices to airplane parts. a disastrously bad idea. that's what scientists are calling a plan to slash payments for research infrastructure, warning

it could be devastating to america's place as a global research leader and a concert countdown abruptly canceled by a large blockage of fat grease and rags, aka a fatberg. you heard me correctly. we'll discuss. i'm sara sidner with john berman and kate bolduan. this is cnn news central. >> a new week, a new government agency targeted an expiring deadline on that so-called federal buyout and a new round of tariffs. today, president trump is set to announce new tariffs on steel and aluminum imports. he says he's going to separately announce new reciprocal tariffs to match what other countries have on u.s. goods, dollar for dollar. every country they charge us, we charge them is the message from the president. the tariffs on steel and aluminum will impact

canada and mexico, two of the largest exporters of steel to the united states. and yes, the president just last week hit pause on his threatened tariffs against those very same countries that was supposed to be a 30 day pause on across the board tariffs. but now who knows. also today, china's retaliatory tariffs on the united states go into effect. they will impact about $13 billion in u.s. goods. cnn's alayna treene at the white house to start us off this hour. what are you hearing this morning about about the tariffs, about what most experts say. and i just spoke with someone just last hour who said the very same that this is a tax on american consumers is that's who will pay for it. >> i mean, that is really the big question is how this could hurt american consumers. it's also something we've heard the president acknowledge before. he said that he believes, yeah, sure, americans could face the price of this temporarily, but by and large, kate, and according to my conversations with many people close to the

president, white house officials, they all agree that the president is very serious about tariffs. we knew that for the entire time on the campaign trail, he talked about tariffs. he called it the most beautiful word, and he believed that it really is a really good trading and effective use of trade strategy for him. so it really shouldn't be a surprise that he is moving aggressively ahead with that plan. i do want to talk a little bit about what you mentioned. one is 25% tariffs on all steel and aluminum coming into the united states, as you mentioned. that's likely to hit our neighbors, particularly canada and mexico, very hard. we also know that brazil and south korea and vietnam are the other largest sources of steel coming in to the united states. and then aluminum, by and large, more than 70%, according to, the american iron and steel institute data and other government data, more than 70% of aluminum comes from canada into the united states. so really going to be hitting them hard, particularly, of course,

after we know that the president pressed pause on implementing broader blanket tariffs on both canada and mexico until they could, you know, work out some sort of negotiation, hit pause for a month. but i also want to get into the reciprocal tariffs, because we've heard the president say that as well. he said that he's planning on imposing reciprocal tariffs. essentially, if any country puts tariffs on the united states, they're going to he's going to hit it right back. he talked about this more over the weekend. take a listen to how he put it. >> i'll be announcing probably tuesday or wednesday at a news conference. reciprocal tariffs. and very simply it's if they charge us we charge them that's all. >> when is it going to affect you, sir? >> almost immediately. if they are charging us 130% and we're charging them nothing, it's not going to stay that. >> way. >> now, kate. he also, without naming specific countries, said that he would perhaps consider potential exemptions when it comes to reciprocal tariffs, depending on if he's satisfied

with any agreements. he works out with different countries. but i think, look, the key thing here to keep in mind is especially when it comes to trade policy and tariffs, the devil is in the details. we are still trying to learn exactly what this could look like. but again, i can tell you from my conversations with those close to the president, he is very much serious about moving forward with these tariffs, and we should get more clarity on that at some point today. >> and really quickly. he also is very serious about moving forward with this. the so-called buyout offers for the entire federal workforce. but that's going to be in court today. what's going to happen? what's going to happen? >> that is, there is a hearing today to really determine the legality of it all. i would note that the actual initial deadline imposed by the white house for all different federal workers, it was offered to more than 2 million federal workers. this so-called buyout program, the trump administration is calling it deferred. resignation program. all workers had, until initially thursday, february 6th at midnight to decide whether or not they were going to essentially put themselves on

voluntary paid leave through the end of september. however, that caught up and got caught up in the courts thursday afternoon. just hours before that deadline, we saw a district judge say that actually we're moving that deadline to monday. we need a hearing to determine whether or not this is legal. we are going to see that hearing play out today. but we do know that the white house pushed that deadline back to actually tonight. 11:59 p.m., for workers to decide if they are going to take this. so more on that as we see it kind of unfold in court today. kate. >> absolutely. elena. thank you so much. alayna treene at the white house for us. john. >> all right. new this morning, vice president jd vance is questioning whether courts can block actions taken by the president. and some are inferring that he's raising the possibility that the president just ignore these orders. this is what the vice president wrote, quote, judges aren't allowed to control the executive's legitimate power. this followed a judge's order that temporarily blocked elon musk and his team from accessing sensitive treasury department systems. with us now is cnn

senior legal analyst, former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york and philadelphia eagles fan. that is why i am wearing the tie this morning for you, sir. good morning. elie honig. so jd vance writes, judges aren't allowed to control the executive's legitimate power. we maybe should underline and bold that word legitimate there, because it's doing a lot of work. what can courts do? >> it? >> it certainly is doing. >> a lot of work. >> john and jd vance is really stepping very. >> close to. >> dangerous ground. >> with that statement. >> and he knows it. by the way, this is a yale law school graduate. so the notion that the courts have cannot stop the executive from doing what he wants, the notion that the executive may have the option of defying the courts, that is completely beyond even what the most extreme right wing conservative theory in favor of broad executive power has ever argued. now, look, there is a very broad view of executive power. sometimes it's called the unitary executive theory, which

holds essentially that the president is all powerful within the executive branch. but even proponents of that theory do not say that the president is free to disregard an order of the court. if that were to happen, that is a line in the sand that has not been crossed. donald trump did not cross that line in his first four years. he has not crossed that line in his first couple weeks here in his second term. but if we get over that line, then we've got a major crisis. and i think it's irresponsible of jd vance. i know he didn't quite go there, but he got pretty close to even suggest that. >> and to be clear, the court stopped all kinds of executive action from president biden to the courts. jump in all the time on executive actions because the constitution is sort of murky on what a president can and can't do. let me just read you the first part of vance's tweet, because this this actually sort of expands on his thinking. if a judge tried to tell general how to conduct a military operation, that would be illegal if a judge tried to command the attorney general and how to use her discretion as a prosecutor, that's also illegal. but

here's the thing. when a judge weighs in on powers that belong to congress, on laws that congress passed and the executive, the president may be ignoring or crossing the line on those laws, that might be another thing. >> yeah. i mean, even the premise of jd vance statement there is incorrect. i mean, judges do have the authority to block extraconstitutional actions by the executive branch or by congress. and john, you're exactly right. that has happened countless times to every administration in recent history and probably in the entire history of the united states. and president, it's part of being president. presidents have railed publicly against decisions by the judiciary. but at times, that's what the judiciary does. that's what the judiciary exists for, to say, no, you've gone too far, either congress or executive branch. and by the way, we are seeing this spate of decisions from district court judges. those are trial level federal judges. we'll see another one today on the buyout issue. but remember, also, there's a process here. if you lose in the district court

and you're the administration and you don't like it, you have the right to appeal up to the court of appeals. and then you can even ask the next level, the u.s. supreme court, to take the case. so it's not as if the game is over. once the district court judge rules, there are still many other layers of protection and appeal built in there, too. >> so to what extent, ellie, do you think that the white house, the trump white house knows this and this is a concerted strategy? i ask you this because i read this renowned legal scholar over the last few days who said that the white house is engaging in what's called a make me strategy. >> so that i've heard that that scholar is a little shaky in some of his opinions. yeah. look, the strategy that donald trump has used here so far is he's going to do what he wants first, and then he's going to make plaintiffs. he's going to make state attorneys general. he's going to make private citizens go sue him in court if they want to stop him from doing what he wants, they have to make

him. so that's definitely been a strategy by the president. but that's not unconstitutional. where it crosses a line is if that happens, he goes into court and a court says, you're not allowed to do this executive branch or i'm putting it on hold, i'm putting an injunction. and then if the president or the executive branch defies that, that's where we get into real trouble here. so for sure, donald trump has taken a conscious legal strategy of, i'm going to do what i want, maybe i'll lose in the courts. that's fine. i mean, i think there's problems in that, but that's not unconstitutional. where we cross a line is if he starts defying the courts. >> just to be clear, it was elie honig who was the renowned legal scholar writing about the make me strategy and then 20s or less the supreme court, this supreme court. do we have any hints about where they may be predisposed to go on how much power an executive has? >> you know, this supreme court has generally been taken a broad view of executive power. but i also think it's a mistake to say, oh, there are six, three supreme court. they ruled in favor of trump on immunity. they're going to do whatever he

said. they have rejected donald trump at many key junctures. they rejected his election fraud claims. they rejected some of his efforts to stop prosecutors from taking steps against him. they rejected his efforts to resist a subpoena. so i think this supreme court will not tolerate if the executive branch crosses that line of defying the courts. >> yeah. and also congress. when congress writes laws with specific language, this court seems to give deference to that. elie honig, great to see you this morning. congratulations on your big win. i know you played hard. >> thank you. the eagles you can't hate him because ellie is an eagle. anyway, think of it as a big real estate site. that's what president trump is now saying about gaza as he doubles down on america taking it over, eyes in the sky. cnn has learned the u.s. has stepped up the use of spy planes at the southern border. what it is they are after there, and winter alerts for 29 people, 29 million people across the country as storms

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joining us now. katie, what more are you learning about these spy planes and these flights? >> yeah. kate, let's talk about the. scale of this ramp up here. up until now, the u.s. military would fly. maybe one surveillance flight a month along the u.s. southwestern border. we have seen at least 18 just in a ten day period beginning in late january along the u.s. southwestern border and in international airspace around the baja peninsula. this comes, of course, as donald trump has increasingly indicated that he would like to see the military take a greater responsibility for dealing with both the cartel issue specifically, as well as the the issue of migration to the u.s. southern border. but important to remember, kate, here, that the flight hours in the kind of planes being used here, these are finite resources. and up until now, the pentagon has really prioritized using these planes to do things like collect intelligence on the war in ukraine, or hunt russian or chinese submarines, for

example. so this ramp up really underscores the degree to which the trump administration is willing to shift finite national security resources away from overseas threats and towards the southern border, where donald trump has declared a national emergency, and specifically towards the cartel issue. >> yeah, that perspective, that context there, that's really important, katie. and what can they actually see from the from these planes? >> yeah. so three kinds of planes in use here, including interestingly, a u-2, which is a platform that was developed during the cold war. it's a high altitude surveillance plane designed to take really exquisite pictures of stuff happening on the ground. and according to our sources, none of them could recall that being used in a southern border context during their careers. these are planes that are also capable of collecting signals intelligence. so to include communications potentially between cartel members on the ground, as well as imagery collection, these are all planes capable of seeing sideways essentially. so even though they're only flying in u.s. airspace and in international

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sounds really, really wonky. and in many ways it is. >> but the level of. panic that we saw from the research community. >> was really. >> higher than anything. >> we've seen so far. and of course, there. >> have been a lot of changes. >> already that. >> have been. happening at the nih. >> so essentially this is. >> a policy change directed at what are known as indirect costs of research. >> so to. >> put that in perspective. >> the nih says. >> in. >> 2023 it awarded about. $35 billion in external. >> research funds. of that $26 billion were direct research costs. >> going specifically. >> to research grants. >> then they had $9 billion that were allocated in what they. >> call indirect costs. now the research community. >> refers to this. >> as facilities and administrative. >> costs of research. >> so that can include anything from even keeping the. lights on in. >> their research labs, paying for. >> high speed. >> data, processing. >> the support personnel, the people who clean. >> the labs and. >> facilities. all of these things go into. >> this, and. >> it is how universities and. >> academic medical. >> centers fund their work. and so what the change is that the nih announced on friday is that they are going to go to a flat

rate of 15%. >> of research costs. >> for these indirect. >> costs. >> and that will be a big decline for a lot of institutions. the nih said that it was coming down from an average of about 27%. but you can see here they tweeted out that some institutions like harvard and yale were getting a rate of almost 70% of their research grants in order to fund the sort of administrative costs of doing that research. and so there's a lot of panic, especially because they said this isn't just for new grants, john, but for existing grants for payments going forward, starting today. >> and the impact, scientists say, would be what and when so the nih is essentially saying this would save more than $4 billion a year. >> but what the research community is saying is that that would result in them having to stop work. they would do less research. it could affect clinical trials that are supported by the nih. fewer patients might be able to get treatment. people would lose their jobs. there's a lot of panic about what this could mean, but there's also an expectation that lawsuits are

going to be filed, and there's a hope that this will be stopped because it's supposed to start today. >> the courts will be busy. meg tirrell, thank you very much for that report and explaining it so clearly, sarah. >> all right. speaking of researchers, to shed more light on the conversation, i'm joined by michael osterholm, director of the center for infectious disease research and policy at the university of minnesota. thank you so much for joining us this morning, sir. what when you hear this, um, where again, the nih is being targeted. what kind of research may be affected and impacted by this? >> well. >> sarah, it's all. kinds of research. and let me just help put the direct indirect funds into some perspective. direct funds are those which go right to the laboratory or to the research group and the work that they're doing, but all the other funds are not just keeping the lights on. >> but imagine. >> you're. >> a trucking company and. >> you had to build every road that you needed to use to get from point a to point b to

deliver your goods. >> that's the indirect cost. >> we account. >> for those every day by being there. >> so there are. >> many laboratories in this country that are doing incredibly important work, that the machines that they are using literally cost millions of dollars. >> now, that's. >> not their only use is. >> from. >> one research group, but from multiple groups. so what we do is we pool that. indirect money, whether it's. any aspect of the research. out there. and so people have to realize if they. >> want a trucking company. >> to try to build a highway every time they need to deliver a package. a then that they don't really understand what indirect is all about. >> what will this mean? or what could this mean to the average american? if this stops research or heavily impacts the ability to do research? >> well, one of the topics that is front and center in this country right now is influenza. we have a number of research groups that are doing very sophisticated research on getting us better flu vaccines, ones that are more durable, more protective, and they are using laboratory facilities that are

very expensive to maintain. and so from that perspective, we're going to see immediately work like influenza vaccine improvement, covid vaccine improvement are all going to basically either be slowed down or in many cases stopped. and so you have to understand that this is not about arguing about, you know, should someone get more indirect or less indirect, we all are a part of a group of negotiators that with the nih, we sit down and show exactly what kind of research we're doing, why we need the different machines or the different laboratories, the different support services. and then we negotiate a contract with them for that. it's not just some number made up that says, we want that much and indirect, it has to be directly related back to the expense that that particular project incurs. and so this, again, would be penny wise and pound foolish. >> i am curious because you said it could stop sort of the the research that is needed to make vaccines better. and then you

have rfk jr., who is been put up for the hhs secretary, who has said in the past there's no safe vaccine if he becomes hhs secretary and you have this issue with nih where they're doing this sort of cutting off of these funds, do you think vaccines are going to be harder to get in general? >> sarah, all of public health action is going to be harder to either appreciate, have it happen or things like vaccines have them available. and so we're very worried about this. you know, i've been in this business 50 years now, and there is nothing nothing has even come close to threatening the basic research capacity of this country to do good, to help people every day in their lives. and so, from my perspective, what we're seeing right now is a generational destruction of our research capacity. and there are many young researchers today that are not going to go into research here in this country. i'm also well aware of researchers right now who are likely to lose their positions

because of this action that are being heavily recruited by european research universities. the united states is going to quickly find itself way, way back in line on many of these issues. and it's so unnecessary because the cost benefit of providing this research money is and the studies have been done to show for every dollar you invest in this kind of research, society often saves millions of dollars. so from that perspective, it is really a terrible, terrible legacy issue confronting us. >> as we're talking about this, we are seeing the bird flu mutate. it has now gotten into cattle in nevada. it has infected at least several humans, one of whom died. new york has had to close live poultry markets today for for disinfection due to detecting bird flu. um, can you give me some sense of where we are with this particular flu? and if we are in, if we should start to, to really worry about this as we

see these numbers and these changes in bird flu. >> yeah. >> well, you know, i got to be honest with you and say that i probably know less about flu today than i did ten years ago, because the more we've learned, the more we realize we don't really understand it completely. what we're seeing right now is the natural home for these flu viruses are in wild birds, migratory waterfowl, and we've never seen widespread infection across all the continents of the world like we're seeing right now in these birds. they in turn, serve to then transmit it to other animal species, and occasionally to humans. what we're worried about is, well, one of those viruses change in such a way as to become the next pandemic virus, meaning that it is readily transmitted from person to person. and we just don't know that. i can tell you there will be more influenza pandemics. they're going to happen. you know, as i say often, the pandemic clock is ticking. we just don't know what time it is. so even if it's not h5n1, we're going to have another flu virus. this is the kind of research that's going to basically be destroyed by these decisions that are being made

right now. you know, we are going to be a fire company, going to a fire without any water. and i think this is really such an important issue because flu is ultimately going to come back and hurt us badly. >> michael michael osterholm, thank you for talking us through that from a scientific perspective, really important for americans to understand what some of what seems like subtle changes happening can have such a huge impact and potentially for decades to come. really appreciate you coming on this morning, kate. >> thank you. >> sarah. >> coming up for us. president trump doubles down on his plan for the united states to take control of gaza. so how do americans feel about that move? we have the new numbers just in, and what a halftime performer did to get arrested and banned for life from nfl stadiums and events. >> have i got news for you is back for another season. roy wood jr. amber ruffin and michael ian black are finding the funny in the week's biggest stories. >> trying to give you all four

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underwater at minus five points. and the net approval rating, that's approval minus disapproval. what a difference eight years makes. he's on the positive side of the ledger at plus four points. and again it's not just the cbs news poll. we're talking about the gallup poll. we're talking about the ipsos poll. we are talking about the pew poll. all of these respective pollsters have trump in a better position now than they did eight years ago. the bottom line is, americans are far more likely to say they like what they're seeing now versus what they felt during trump's first term. >> okay, so how rare is this? are you going to show us sort of where we're at now and how rare it is at this number? >> so i want you to take a look at this plus size, this plus sign. right. compare that to the negative sign being on the plus side of the ledger. right. and positive net approval territory. a positive net approval rating for donald trump. again. whoa whoa whoa whoa. entire first term. just 11 days. just 11 days. donald trump had a net

positive approval rating. compare that to the second term just so far. just so far. every single day of trump's second term. so far, he has been on the positive side of the ledger 21 days, all three weeks. that's already ten more days than he was in his entire first term. so again, this is just another sign that americans are far more likely to like what they're seeing in his second term than they were during his first term. >> he also won the popular vote in his second term. so it stands to reason that there would be more people that would approve of of some of what he's doing. is there something that americans say about why it is that they that they like him now more than they did back in the first term? >> you know, i think one of the things that's so important for politicians is for folks to believe what they're saying, and that they're keeping their campaign promises. so i think this gives you a pretty gosh darn good idea of what may be going on. trump's doing what he promised to do. you go back to

april of 2017. it was just 46% of all americans who said that trump was doing what he promised to do. compare that now to february of 2025. you know, there was a good show that was on during the 1990s called a different world. that is what's going on right now. we're living in a different world. 70% of americans say trump is doing what he promised to do. again, compare that to april of 2017, when it was just 46%. when americans are 24 points more likely to say that you're doing what you promised to do, it's no wonder that your net approval rating is much more likely to be on the positive side of the ledger than on the negative side, and so far, what we're seeing again is americans 21 days so far versus just 11 days during his entire first term, that trump has a positive net approval rating, quite a different world. >> totally. and thank you, because it's the same world with you every day. lots of energy, no matter what the heck is going on. >> no coffee necessary. >> very disturbing. okay, kate, over to you. >> joining me right now to talk

more about this is jane harman, former nine term member of congress from california and former ranking member of the house intelligence committee. she also just chaired the commission on the national defense strategy. it's good to see you. thank you so much for being here. in that same poll that harry and sarah were just talking about, he there was there were numbers coming out on his handling of the israel, israel-hamas conflict, his handling of it also got positive marks in this in that cbs poll. but the idea of the united states taking over gaza different completely flip flop, not playing well, only 13% of americans who were polled said that they thought that was a good idea. why do you think that is? >> well. >> blowing up the two state. >> solution was not a campaign promise in this campaign. i think i missed it. >> i don't think. >> he would. >> have won. >> michigan if that had been one of. >> his campaign planks. >> and it's kind of surprising that he's pushing this hard for this big, beautiful real estate deal. and oh, by the way, i think this is phase one. phase

two will be he will support israel's claim that they can annex the west. >> bank. >> and then we'll have 5 million palestinians with no place to go. i mean, this is just incredible. i remember i know you're going to ask me, so i'll volunteer it 26 plus years ago, being with president clinton, first lady hillary clinton and yasser arafat, yasser arafat, the head of the palestinian national congress, palestinian authority at the time in gaza, when the the phase one of a deal that clinton had negotiated was implemented, there was a big, beautiful hotel on the mediterranean, and there was a small, beautiful airport and there was an aid facility. oh, by the way, usaid, remember that. and the goal was to help gaza become a a major tourist mecca run by the palestinians, with palestinians living there.

and that's just a a better beautiful idea, seems to me, than displacing millions of people and trying to push them into countries that don't want. >> them, but even even so, even that effort fell apart after months but president, despite obviously president clinton's efforts, where do you see there was the way you wrote about it in the piece was was illustrative because you could hear clinton almost using similar language to what you hear from president trump in some regard. the similarities and what do you think can be learned from that experience? >> well, i peace is elusive. palestinian government has never been strong to remind hamas is there because there was an election in 2007 and hamas won. just wrap your head around that, by the way. i think hamas is now stronger than it was before. some of the israeli bombing campaign. i support the existence of israel. i and i support a two state solution,

which i think will keep israel safer. and it has been long standing u.s. policy. so how do we get somewhere? i think the the better idea right now is something that trump is pushing and was pushing, which is building on the abraham accords, getting the sunni arab countries, led by saudi arabia, to do a deal with israel, which has as a condition. and the saudis are still sticking to this, some form of of pathway toward a state for the palestinian people. they need better government. i mean, i'm not calling for regime change, but they should be calling for regime change. look how they've been living for years. but i think if, if, if steps could be taken, if, if the pa could be reformed, palestinian authority could be reformed, if hamas could be kept out of the new government, except perhaps in some small technical roles, then we would see, i think, real progress, not just for the people on in gaza, but for the palestinian people as a whole,

and they deserve a homeland, too. >> from your experience, what do you think of and i offer this as a big if. what do you think of it as if this position that donald trump has taken and continues to push and taking over gaza, if that is a negotiating position to tell arab nations, you need to get involved and you need to do something, or it could or i can or it could get worse. from your experience, what do you if it is a negotiating position, what do you think of it? >> well, this seems to be now the new new normal for a lot of things. negotiating positions about tariffs, negotiating positions about other activities. and maybe it is that and maybe the arab world will say, oh, my, we don't want palestinians pushed into our country, so we better step up. it's possible. uh, what do i what is my end game? my end game is for israel to be a secure country long into the future.

for israel to have the best possible government, for the palestinians to have the best possible government, and for the region living in peace to be a huge trading center for the world. and finally, we haven't talked about iran. uh, right now, iran is the most dangerous actor in in the region, and the israelis deserve credit for neutralizing the the terror groups that were iran's proxies. they deserve credit. but what should come from this? there are glimmers of hope in syria, glimmers of hope in lebanon that they will have better, stronger governments. let's nurture that. let's not have it fall apart. if there's huge, uh, disarray in the west bank and in gaza. and let's not destabilize two countries that have been friends of israel's for decades now, they would be jordan and egypt and the the hashemite government in monarchy in jordan is at risk if if palestinians are pushed into jordan, they already have a

huge palestinian population. >> when the king of jordan comes tomorrow, comes tomorrow. those conversations and what comes from those conversations, i think those are extremely critical into what we we see in the coming days. it's really good to see you. you too. thanks for coming, john. >> all right. this morning, 29 million people are under winter weather alerts. this is amid a new round of storms expected to dump snow from the middle of the country to the east coast. meteorologist derek van dam is with us. derek, my snow blower is not working. i think it needs new oil. how quickly do i need to get it? >> you're going. >> to have. >> to. >> do the old. old school. >> way. >> of shoveling. >> by hand. >> john. it's coming your way. >> and we've got. >> a12 punch of winter storms. impacting the eastern third. >> of the country. >> you can see both storms right now with the. >> winter weather alerts. >> winter storm. >> warnings for the. >> mid-atlantic. this is storm number two. winter storm watches across parts. >> of the plains. >> now look at what blacksburg, virginia national weather service office language. they're using numerous.

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>> christians in federal government, there have been great programs that have been run with christian assistance and usaid. >> this is not a problem, but the president is actually what he's trying to do is create a problem, which. >> is. >> part of a play. >> for power. and so. >> this is what we've actually seen is an. anti-christian bias. coming out of the white house. so we actually need. protection from the white house at this point. and no one knows that better than people like marion buddy who have been attacked, bullied by the president, receiving death threats. >> just for. >> preaching from her pulpit that he might give mercy. we've seen the. >> catholic bishops. >> being attacked by j.d. vance for doing their work. being accused of going for the bottom line. >> this is gross. >> grotesque, and the lutheran services that you mentioned. >> they they help. >> the elderly, they help. people across this country doing. great work. and elon musk comes out and says. >> oh, these. >> people are money laundering. >> this is terrible. these are

all attacks. >> directly on christian communities. >> the quakers. >> have. >> experienced it, with. i.c.e. being now allowed. >> to invade. >> congregations one after another. christian communities under attack from this trump-vance. elon musk administration. and it's. >> very ironic that. >> they're worried about anti-christian. >> bias, given. >> that we. >> need to be protected from this white house. >> rather than protection. >> this white house does have a lot of support from different parts of the faith community. i wonder how you think it uses faith. >> this white house. it uses faith for power. this is a all from a christian nationalist playbook. they don't have actually wide support. they have wide support from a very narrow slice of american christianity, which is white, protestant, christian nationalist who are on a quest for power. and that's what's being rewarded here. >> it's not just christian nationalists. i think, among religious groups that support him, he has support within, you know, many parts of the evangelical community, which isn't necessarily christian

nationalist. >> not necessarily, but many of them are. and so these are these are folks who have actually really helped him get reelected. and so when he talks about anti-christian bias, he's not talking about christianity at large. he's not talking about me or mainstream christianity, which includes the episcopalians, the catholics, the lutherans, the quakers, even, even even the the lds church has come out and said, we actually need to be able to do our ministry without being attacked by the government. and so what we're seeing now is actually a small group of people who have gained power and, and are trying to create a privileged class of belief. and that's what christian nationalism is, is that some people have a privileged class of they are christian. they are they have a certain viewpoint on power, and they have their their guy in the white house, and he is paying them back with giving them all kinds of christian privilege with this new eo, which is actually very biased

against the majority of christian folks. >> it's an important discussion going forward. reverend paul brandeis, raushenbush, we appreciate you being here. >> thank you. >> thank you, kate. >> this morning, the nfl has confirmed that a protester who appeared during kendrick lamar's halftime show at the super bowl was actually one of the hired background dancers. a protester unfurled a combined palestinian sudanese flag. it happened near the end of the halftime show. he was tackled and removed by security. eventually, the nfl now says that the dancer acted without the coordination of showrunners and had hidden the flag before the performance, saying no one involved with the production was aware of the individual's intent. he was tackled by security, as i mentioned, and will be banned for life from nfl stadiums and events. so i didn't know this was a thing, but it is a thing. a giant blockage of fat grease and rags in a sewer has forced grammy winning singer bryan adams to cancel a sold out show in perth, australia. authorities warned