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newsroom. i'm pamela brown in a very busy washington. and we begin with president trump's open condemnation of america's judicial branch. of course, the third co-equal branch of government as federal judges once again free some of his actions. after several legal challenges to the white house's agenda. both president trump and vice president j.d. vance have loudly been questioning the authority of the judicial branch and slamming its oversight as overreach. we are joined now by cnn's katelyn polantz and alayna treene. caitlin, i want to go to you first. is the trump administration not following some of these court orders from federal judges? that's sort of a key question. >> yeah, well, they've been accused twice as of yesterday of not following what the judges are telling them to do. specifically, in two cases where there was money or people working for the federal government supposed to not have been curtailed. so trump had

tried to, in one general idea that's spurring a lot of different lawsuits, cut back federal funding that is going out. and there was a judge yesterday that said, hey, i told you before that you have to keep funding things like environmental research projects and programs, health care programs do that, give them their money. you're saying that that money isn't happening right now. so that's one thing that happened. there are these complaints that that are ongoing. but the way these cases are playing out, there are so many of them. pam, i tried to count. we're up to maybe almost four dozen since the beginning of the administration. judges are coming in quite quickly, and they're saying, put everything on hold and let's preserve the status quo so that the administration's policy changes, cutting the federal workforce, cutting back the funding, doing some other things that they're doing with social policy, immigration. the judges are saying we don't want there to be irreparable harm here. and

so we're going to step in and temporarily pause everything so that the courts can then look at things further in the coming days and weeks and months and potentially have these challenges go to the supreme court. >> and some of them are trump appointed judges, right? >> some of them are trump appointed judges. there was a judge that said, hey, you can't get rid or put on administrative leave. all of the usaid workforce immediately reinstate those people. this is one of the complaints that happened yesterday where people in the case said, we don't think that the administration is following the court's orders. that judge was a trump appointed judge in the d.c. district court and the justice department yesterday said to that judge, we think the president can do what he wants. he has the power over the executive branch, including usaid workers and his powers, especially in the realm of foreign affairs, are vast and generally unreviewable by the courts. so that's what we're going to keep hearing from the justice department as they fight these cases. >> and of course, usaid was

created by by congress through a law. right. as a separate entity. and that is part of the heart of what is being challenged here in court. elena, what is the white house saying about this? how is it reacting to the latest legal challenges? >> well, pamela, since donald trump has taken office and been sworn in, you know, he signed dozens of executive orders and actions. he has plans later this afternoon to sign even more. and really, the only obstacle he's faced so far has been with these legal battles and with the courts trying to prevent and block some of what he is trying to do. now, some of those different battles that caitlin walked through, they were expecting, like the birthright citizenship order, they knew that that was likely going to get caught up in the courts. it's actually something. when i talked to white house officials, they argued that they wanted to get caught up in the courts, go through the process, maybe be challenged by the supreme court. but others, like some of the halting of funding to usaid and and the gutting of the consumer financial protection bureau,

those are ones where it is getting underneath the trump administration's skin. now, really where we saw a lot of this kind of progress over the last few days, and really, most notably, is how the president's allies and top officials are responding. we saw vice president jd vance over the weekend say that the judicial branch and judges, quote, aren't allowed to control the executive's legitimate power. i think legitimate doing a lot of work there. but then we also saw the president this morning weigh in on this directly. he was alleging without evidence that doge has been finding billions in waste, fraud and abuse. and then he went on to say that a certain activists and political judges want us to slow down or stop. he argued that would be a disaster. so we're seeing a lot of criticism toward these judges. i think really the question now is how they're going to continue to respond to some of these different legal battles. will they appeal or will they try to defy this moving forward? >> alayna treene katelyn

polantz, thank you so much. so let's discuss that and more with democratic congressman jerry moskowitz of florida. he is a member of the house judiciary committee. congressman, thank you for being here with us. first, your reaction to the accusations that the administration is not honoring some of these court orders? >> well, good morning. thanks for having me. well, look, we you know, we got to let that play out in the court system. obviously, the administration can go ahead and appeal, but we know how we got here, right? we already have elon musk and doge in the administration. you know, dealing with funding that is reserved for congress under article one. so we're already kind of dealing with this. but we got to let the process work itself out. we can't just claim constitutional crisis all the time. we can't always be at a ten. so we got to let it work itself out. and eventually, if the administration then doesn't listen to the supreme court, that then obviously would be a time where we could be be outraged. but there's a lot of game that has to be played as this works through the courts so far. >> so basically, what i hear you

saying is that we need to let it work its way through the court, and if they defy a court order, you know. but let's not freak out. but if it gets to the supreme court and they defy that, that's when you can say there's a constitutional crisis, basically. is that what you're saying? >> yeah, that's exactly right. because obviously this is going to go to an appeals court. right. and then after it goes to the appeals court, then obviously, depending upon the ruling, both sides can appeal to the supreme court. look, even judge kavanaugh said that the executive branch does not have the power to subvert things that congress funds. by the way, this is my entire argument. i remember i'm a democrat who joined the doge caucus here in congress. i do believe government is inefficient. i do believe we can save money, but that can only happen in congress. in fact, go look at the debt clock. even if elon musk is right, which i'm not sure he is. but let's just say for the sake of argument, he is, he's found hundreds of billions of dollars in waste and fraud. fine. cut it. get rid of it. but congress has to do that. the only way we can get the debt to go down is for congress to do it. okay. the debt clock right now keeps going up and up and

up, even while elon is doing his thing and say, okay, well, it's only been a couple of weeks, jared, give him some time. well, come back to me in a month and you'll see that the debt clock is not going to be affected unless congress does. does those actions in congress. so here's what maybe the speaker should do. take all the things that doge says they found, bring it to the floor for an up or down vote. >> let's talk a little bit more about doge. first of all. are you going to stay on on the doge committee? i know some of your colleagues have decided not to, given how they are seeing this play out, how elon musk and his staffers are going into different agencies and accessing these systems and so forth. are you going to stay there? >> well, there's three different, you know, buckets. there's a doge subcommittee in oversight, which i am not on. then there is the doge committee that elon is leading in the executive. and then there's the doge caucus, which is what i'm a member of in congress. and i joined that because we were told that this is where the discussion is going to happen. that being said, there's been no discussion. elon's been doing it all himself. we've had meetings. it's been bipartisan, we've had

good discussions, but it doesn't seem like the caucus is included on, you know what doge is finding? we were told that elon is going to audit it and make recommendations to congress. so look, i'm going to stay for now. but at some point in time, the caucus may just be irrelevant because congress is not being included, even though it's our constitutional duty to either fund or cut these programs. >> so what are your specific concerns in terms of how musk and dozier are operating and allowing, you know, having access to to some sensitive information about americans? >> well, obviously, the courts have already ruled on the treasury issue, and that right now we have no evidence that they're defying that order. it seems that there are limits on what access they can have in treasury. so look, what's happening over there is happening fast and furious. that's that's by design, right. and, you know, keep releasing information. flood the zone with all of these things. we don't know if everything they're finding is is true or not true. but you know, at the moment we can only take them at their word. but why don't they just present it to congress? why

don't you be transparent, bring all of those things to congress and let congress decide on an up or down vote. we could do it program by program by program. let's find out where every member stands on all of these things at doge says that they found we could just take an up or down vote. then we would be doing it legally because we'd be following the constitution, and then we would be obviously helping bring down the debt. in the event that they found all of this fraud, waste and abuse. >> so again, you're for bringing, you know, cutting down on fraud, waste and abuse. i think most americans would be. but are you you're a member of the doge caucus as you clarified. um, are you getting any information about what they're doing, what systems they're targeting, the conflict of interest concerns here with elon musk, and eliminating some of these agencies, such as the consumer protection bureau, financial protection bureau. i mean, are you getting any information as a member of congress? >> no, we're finding out, like you, via tweets. >> from reporters.

>> and we're exactly right. and so, no, there's no it doesn't appear to be any communication between what elon is doing and the caucus. it seems that congress is behind and being left out, considering this is our function. again, we were told that they were going to audit these departments and bring their recommendations to congress. but that's not what's happening. what they're doing is they're cutting and stopping, which is things that the executive branch can't do. that's for congress to do. or, you know, what? if that's what the executive branch is doing, they just need to admit to the american people. it's not affecting the debt. don't believe me? go look at the debt clock. if they're finding all of this waste and all of this abuse, why is the debt clock continuing to rise? so again, right, if we want to take this on, the only body that can take it on is the house and the senate, not the executive branch. >> all right. i want to turn to the hostage agreement between israel and hamas. hamas is saying it's delaying the next release of hostages, claiming

israel has violated the cease fire agreement. president trump just told reporters yesterday if the hostages aren't released by saturday, israel should cancel the deal and let all hell break out. what is your response to that? >> well, obviously i don't believe anything hamas says. i don't know why we'd say hamas says that israel is the one who violated the deal. hamas is the one who violated the deal. hamas is the one that came out and said, we're not releasing the hostages as we promised to do. so hamas is the one that has violated the deal. i'm not surprised. we're dealing with a terrorist organization. i don't know why we ever thought we could trust them, but we did everything we can to get our hostages out. you know, look, as far as the president's comments are concerned, i mean, hell has already been unleashed in this area. these families that don't have their loved ones back, 1200 people being killed in israel and innocent palestinians being killed because hamas has used them as human shields, has sacrificed them to the war because hamas doesn't want a two state solution. hamas doesn't want to live side by side in israel. so look, the president obviously uses tough language. that's not something we

haven't seen before. he did it in the first administration, but we're dealing with a terrorist organization. i mean, what do you want him to say? please, hamas, please give us our hostages. i mean, that's how the president deals with these things. and you know what? we should be tougher with hamas and we should be tougher with iran. let's start putting pressure, more pressure on iran. hamas is just their proxy. >> really quick, though, just to follow up on the two state solution part, you said hamas doesn't want that. it looks as though president trump is trying to abandon that by his proposal for the u.s. to take over gaza and permanently remove the palestinians from their land. they say they don't want to do that. what do you say to that? >> well, look, that's not going to happen. but i do think a two state solution at this moment is dead. there is no path at this moment for a two state solution. but i do think what the president is doing is he's saying to the arab leaders, he's saying to egypt and jordan, which all keep saying, we got to have a two state solution, a two state solution. well, what what do they suggest? remember, yasser arafat was

offered twice a two state solution, more than they will ever be offered now. and they turned it down. and so what deal is there that they're willing to accept? we know the deal that hamas wants. they want no israel. right. and so i do think, unfortunately, and i've always been a supporter of a two state solution, i think we have to be honest that at this moment, a two state solution is dead in the region. >> wow. all right, i want to i want to get one more question in to you. and that is about funding the government. obviously you talked about the debt and so forth. that's a big sticking point. congress is trying to figure out how it's going to fund the government moving forward. one of your fellow democrats, congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez, says democratic votes, quote, should not come cheap. let's listen. >> we should be very clear with the american people that the house is governed by a republican majority. the senate is governed by a republican majority, and the white house has a republican president. and if they want to pass their agenda, republicans need to conjure up the votes for them to pass their own bills.

>> do you. >> agree with your democratic colleagues? and what do you say to some of the democrats who are saying they might vote no to fund the government as sort of a leverage point? >> well, let me say this. i mean, remember, we've heard for weeks that we there's this big, beautiful mandate. and so, look, they have the house, they have the senate, they have the executive. republicans are in charge. right. so, you know, they got to be able to keep the government open. i do not think democrats should be using closing the government as a leverage point. but, you know, i would say this right now, if the government is going to close, i think that's on speaker johnson. and i'll tell you why. speaker johnson talked about individual spending bills. well, we have a month to go. where are the 12 individual spending bills? we can't fund the government by cr anymore. the american people said that they don't want the status quo. if we listen to what doge is saying and whether we disagree or we think what they're doing is legal, what they say is they have found hundreds of billions of dollars of fraud. the president just said that in a tweet. well, if that's the

case, then we can't fund it by cr because a cr would refund all of the hundreds of billions of dollars of fraud. and so since we can't do a cr because we can't fund the status quo, we can't fund the fraud and the abuse that they found, then we're going to have to do individual spending bills. well, the speaker is running out of time. he's got to get those individual spending bills out. otherwise he's going to close the government. >> interesting point, congressman jared moskowitz, thank you very much. thank you. and coming up, toeing the line between loyalty and pushback. up next, the growing concern from some gop lawmakers when it comes to doge. >> lockerbie premieres sunday at 9:00 on cnn. life. diabetes. >> there's no slowing down. each day is a unique blend of people to see and things to do. that's why you choose glucerna to help manage blood sugar response. uniquely designed with carb steady glucerna. bring on the day. >> when i started walton goggins

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>> happening right now. house republican leaders are speaking on capitol hill following their meeting. and this is happening as some congressional leaders are growing concerned over president trump and elon musk's attempts to slash the federal workforce. they're questioning the attempt to bypass congressional control over budgets, and others are facing a deluge of calls from their constituents. cnn congressional correspondent lauren fox joins us now from capitol hill. so let's get to that in a moment. but first, you've got some news on intra party fighting within the gop. tell us about that, lauren. yeah. >> i mean, there's really been a disconnect between house republicans and senate republicans on the best way to advance donald trump's agenda right here on capitol hill. and house republicans specifically, have been grappling with how to come together with such a narrow majority to pass a budget resolution, which would be the first step to passing a larger tax and border package for house republicans. now, we are hearing this morning that they are trying to aim to mark up a budget bill on thursday. that

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million palestinians who would be displaced by his plans to develop gaza. now, both jordan and egypt have soundly rejected the idea of taking them all in. joining us now is maya barry, the executive director of the arab american institute that is a nonprofit membership organization that advocates for the interests of arab americans. and also joining us is beshara baba, chairman of a group known as arab americans for peace. i want to begin there. the name of your group was arab americans for trump. you changed it after president trump announced plans to take over gaza and relocate palestinians. why did you change it? do you no longer support the president? >> no. no, no, we changed that. we, after the victory of the president in november, there was no need to continue with the name arab americans for trump. and we were thinking of changing the name. however, when he made the announcement regarding the

relocations of gazans, we wanted to come out with a press release, but we could not do it under arab americans for trump, because that would be counterproductive or contradictory to what we intended in our press release. so we changed it to arab americans for peace. all along, we wanted peace in the middle east. that is why we supported the president and abandoned harris and president biden. >> do you stand by that decision given as you put out, that the contradictory position of having a name like that, with your view of the plans he has for gaza? >> yes, i do stand by my position. just keep in mind that the president was able to force netanyahu to accept a ceasefire in gaza, something that the biden harris administration could not do in over a ten month period. so we are grateful that there is a ceasefire in gaza. we look forward to the to the president's second promise of achieving a lasting peace in the middle east that is satisfactory

to all parties. >> of course, trump has been given some credit for that, but it did happen before he officially took office. we should note, maya, to get to you. do you believe that this is a serious trump proposal on gaza or a negotiating tactic? and does it even matter? >> i don't believe it's serious. i'm not sure how it's a negotiating matter tactic that would potentially work. what i do think is it's incredibly dangerous, both to the ongoing suffering of the palestinians in terms of what they've endured, a genocidal policy in gaza and dangerous to the united states. i see no way in which us becoming a you know, one of the things that's interesting is it went from a discussion about soldiers, u.s. soldiers on the ground occupying gaza, and we're going to buy it. i'm not quite sure who we buy it from to now. we've shifted away from that. and we're talking about the

>> your national community has not come to a consensus on that, although there are allegations and it is being looked at through the but, you know, just on the broader view, how damaging is this proposal to u.s. >> standing in the arab world? >> i think it's exceptionally stormy in terms of the arab world, in terms of our allies there. when the trump administration has purported the normalization with saudi arabia as a key objective in terms of our european allies. the idea that the united states would float policies like this openly is now also producing in israel conversations regarding the transfer of palestinians in a very normalized way. i don't think that enables u.s. policymakers to achieve anything that would resemble what should be our policies.

>> i want to shift gears to president trump urging israel to cancel the cease fire, deal with hamas, and let all hell break out if the hostages are not released by noon on saturday. bishara, you were just praising donald trump for the role he had in that initial phase. what do you think about that statement? did this just turn up the heat in the region, or are you in favor of this? what is your viewpoint? >> no, i'm not in favor of it. and it does turn up the heat in the region. i mean, there is no way under the sun that all hostages are going to be freed by saturday at noon. i mean, the hostage process entails steps by israel and steps by hamas. israel has not fulfilled its promises. for example, a promise to bring in 60,000 housing units into gaza. and so far, zero of those 60,000 have have come in. so people are living under tents

or makeshift tents. and so the president's comment in that regard is not helpful and it's not realistic. at the same time, there is no way you could all the hostages would be released. besides, the palestinians in gaza have endured, you know, whether you call it a genocide or not, from my perspective, a genocide that killed 46,000 people, injured 120,000, and a threat by a u.s. president is not going to make a dent in that. >> yeah. and of course, that's your personal view. again, no international consensus on that. just to follow up with you, though, to both of you, quickly, you know, president trump has argued, look, when it comes to gaza, it is a destruction zone. you can't live there. it's unlivable. given the war that's happened there. and it's, you know, it's it's as his press secretary said in her own words, evil to keep people there trying to live there. what do you say to that? >> that's why it's credible to discuss it as a genocide. we

literally saw the 90,000 tons of explosives dropped on an area, a population forced to move from one area to another. they're not going anywhere. palestinians are not going to leave gaza. but that is. how did we get here? >> that's precisely help us, our viewers, understand. bashar, for you on that, you know that they're not going to leave their land despite what president trump has said. >> despite what anyone says. >> tell, tell, tell us why that is so important to them to not do that. >> well, you know, we are so ingrained in the in palestine. i'm palestinian-american. i was born and raised in jerusalem. my father, in 1967 when when israel was attacking the west bank, we refused to leave jerusalem at the time because he said, we became refugees. once in 1948. we will never become refugees again. and if we're going to die, let's die on our land. and that is the view of the majority, vast majority, if not all, of palestinians right now living under israeli occupation

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of course, pamela brown pamela bondi pamela brown. >> don't worry. you're not the first who's done that. >> i've done this several times. pamela bondi. >> it's good. some sources will answer their phone because they think it's pam bondi calling. >> so pam bondi is, of course, the attorney general. you got todd blanche. who was who was one of his personal attorneys and is now about to be the deputy attorney general. john sauer also involved here. he was helping on the supreme court cases. and, you know, the question of whether these people should recuse themselves. it comes up. but, of course, you and i both remember that in donald trump's world, recusal is a dirty word. you remember, of course you know. yeah. you remember jeff. sessions never recovered from that. so that that is part of what is now part of this discussion. >> it's it's interesting too, because beauvais was the one that sent that initial email over to the fbi or memo saying terminations. >> right. exactly. >> for these agents that and he was involved with the early stages. i think that context is so important. i really want to ask you quickly about the jfk file assassination files, and there are some new tidbits

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sam altman have a history of feuding. now. there's like a back and forth on musk's own platform x. where does this deal stand as of now? >> well, pamela, this really is a shocking development in this long running feud between two of the most powerful people in tech. elon musk, who has his own a.i. startup, sent shockwaves across the business world by launching this hostile takeover offer for open a.i. remember, that's the company behind chatgpt, the app that really made a.i. go mainstream and set off this boom. elon musk and a group of investors are offering $97.4 billion to buy openai. what's important to note is there is a backstory here. they've been feuding for a long time. musk and sam altman musk was actually a co-founder of openai in back in 2015, but they've been clashing ever since. now, altman responded by throwing shade at elon musk on his own social media platform by

saying, no thank you, but we will buy twitter for $9.74 billion if you want. altman was asked about all of this during an interview this morning, and he responded in deeply personal ways. take a listen. >> look, openai is not for sale. the openai mission is not for sale. elon tries all sorts of things for a long time. um, this is the, you know, this week's episode. >> do you think musk's approach then is from a position of insecurity about xai? >> probably his whole life is from a position of insecurity. i feel for the guy. >> do you feel for him? >> i do actually. i don't think he's like a happy person. i do feel for him. >> so clearly no love lost between elon musk and sam altman. look, this is not just another battle between billionaires. there's so much at stake here in the a.i. arms race. so we've got to watch this space very carefully, pamela. >> we will. matt egan, thank you so much. and coming up, it's the most intense flu season in at least 15 years. dr. sanjay gupta is next on a new at-home tool

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