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another american could be released today. plus, as transparent as possible. that's how elon musk is defending his role in government. and yet multiple lawmakers say they are getting no heads up on what his doge team is doing. senator chris van hollen will join me live to react. and later, an out of this world first for nasa. nasa. a twitch live stream with astronauts from the international space station. we'll bring it to you live. good morning. pamela brown is off. i'm phil mattingly in washington, and you are live in the cnn newsroom. and we begin with the breaking news, the markets reacting right now to the first big inflation report of 2025. the dow down, you can see right there about a little over 400 points. nasdaq and s&p both down as well. this is after that critical inflation report showing inflation is going in the wrong direction hitting 3% for the first time since june. i want to bring in cnn's vanessa yurkevich who is going to break
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down all the numbers. what are we seeing here, vanessa? >> yeah, we're seeing inflation heading in the wrong direction, heating up instead of cooling down. what we're seeing is month over month in january, prices rose by 0.5%. and as you mentioned, 3% annually. that's not a number that we have seen since the summer in june. and it really increased across all categories, prices across all categories. categories were on the increase, but we look at three in particular that really resonate with everyday americans shelter, food and energy. shelter costs up 0.4% on the month. energy prices up 1.1% and food costs up 0.4%. this was food at restaurants, food at home all on the rise. these categories are very important, particularly shelter, because that accounted for 30% of the monthly increase. and of course, phil, that's the most amount of money that americans are paying every single month. this is not a great picture for january.
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americans are going to want to see these numbers trending in the other direction. phil. >> you're pointing out food prices, but we got to talk about eggs. we've been talking about eggs. eggs are still a significant issue. and that boy was that underscored in this report. what are we seeing? >> we saw it right at the top of the report. the bureau of labor statistics wanted to point this out because eggs month over month rose 15.2%. they had never seen that number rise so fast since june of 2015. and then year over year eggs up 53%. but we shouldn't necessarily be surprised by this because we have been reporting on the deadly avian flu that has killed millions of birds. and because of that, there have been egg shortages and thus prices of eggs have increased. now, i've been speaking to a lot of agricultural experts asking them what is to be done about these prices. they say the biden administration couldn't control prices. the trump administration will not be able to control
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prices, but there are some things that they can do on a funding level to try to understand what's going on with this virus and trying to understand if it can be controlled. more funding for surveillance and research and potentially fill vaccines. this is controversial because if you start vaccinating birds, that means that the virus is now labeled endemic, which means that other countries potentially won't want to trade with us. so a lot of controversy around that. but hearing from agricultural experts and farmers that something needs to be done at a federal level to at least look at this, maybe not control the prices, but look at this and try to see if we can get these egg prices in particular under control. phil, just an anecdote for you. in our own building in the cafeteria, just saw a sign that said no fresh eggs. today because of the egg shortage. so it is widespread. americans are noticing and it's reflected in the cpi report here today. >> yeah, no question about it. vanessa yurkevich as always, thank you so much. let's discuss now with president trump's top
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economic adviser, kevin hassett, the director of the national economic council. kevin, i appreciate you being here. >> thanks. good to be here. yeah. >> we have heard repeatedly over the course of the last couple of months from the president when he talks about the politics of winning the campaign. there's a number of different reasons he points to, but he always comes back to grocery prices, says it's not exciting necessarily, but maybe wasn't the message that he always wanted to talk about. but that was the difference. grocery prices are up in particular eggs. what can the administration do? right. >> well, let's just talk about the top line news today. and i got to tell you that we've got on all of the above strategy to reduce inflation, including getting the macro economy right and getting smaller things right, like egg prices. but let's go to today's number. what we learned is that overall inflation is running about 4.5% over the last three months, which kind of closes the book on the disastrous biden economy, where, you know, we just learned that jobs were revised down by a whole million over the last year. so they kept overstating
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how well the economy is doing on that end. and now we see that that, you know, even though austan goolsbee, you know, the democratic person who's now working with the fed is out there saying inflation is under control, that inflation is not under control because the biden and the democrats spent so much money. and so what we're doing is at the top end, we're focusing on getting spending under control and having supply side tax cuts and regulatory policies and and drilling and so on, so that there's a lot of supply, reduced demand. that's how you get prices down. at the more microeconomic level. if you'd like, i could talk about all the work we've been doing on the avian flu to help get egg prices under control. but don't forget that the reason why there are no eggs at the stores, the reason why that happened is that joe biden's team didn't have an avian flu strategy at all. they were just killing chickens willy nilly. they killed 130 million chickens going into the late part of last year, 130 million chickens. rather than come up with an avian flu strategy. so again, it's another example of how the biden administration
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failed at the macro level. they failed at the micro level. and that's why the american people have brought president trump into the white house. >> can i stick on the macro level for a minute? because, sure, your agenda is very clear. the president has not been subtle about what he wants to do. obviously, we see what's happening on capitol hill as they start to move forward on what they plan to be, the tax cut or the extension, at least of the tax cuts on that end, the president this morning on his social media account, saying that rates need to come down, which will go well with the upcoming tariffs. the fed usually when inflation is high, you would think that they would either hold steady or push rates up. tariffs are traditionally considered inflationary. the tax cuts you're talking about are stuck in a legislative process that you know better than anybody. having been here for a long time, might take longer than anybody wants. so in the near term, how do tariffs and jawboning the fed change the trajectory of things. >> oh, we're not jawboning the fed at all. what we're doing is taking actions, aggressive
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actions to lower interest rates. so if you look at it that over the last week and a half, as we've revealed, the runaway spending and almost malicious spending errors of the treasury department under janet yellen, that the ten year treasury rate has dropped by about 40 basis points and remains well below where it was before we came in and started to announce our plans. and so the macroeconomic policies of president trump are already working, and we did an estimate before today's cpi shock that we already just in the last week by announcing the spending cuts that elon musk and everybody are managing through doge had saved american taxpayers $40 billion in interest payments with the lower ten year rate. and so absolutely interest rates are coming down and inflation is coming down. and as inflation comes down the fed could do what it wants to do. but the bottom line is our supply side policies and our micro policies are going to lower inflation. and they're going to do it. and you can already see that in the ten year market right now. >> before i let you go, i do want to ask about what the president said this morning. those upcoming tariffs, the reciprocal tariffs. he
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everybody's waiting to see what they actually look like in practice. i think there's been talk that they won't just be kind of a tariff or tariff match. it will also address country's other trade barriers, whether it's vat, taxes or subsidies as well. and two parter does this mean that kind of the across the board ring tariff that the president was talking about during the campaign is no longer on the table? this will be the effort. >> the president is pursuing. tariff policy in many dimensions and reciprocal trade is something that he's talked about ever since i first met him in 2017, and i even just had some negotiations with foreign leaders today on the matter. and so there's a lot of development going on, but nothing hard news to announce right at this moment. >> so they're not coming today well, we had a discussion today. >> the president has a clear view on what he wants, but we'll see how it all works out. >> you can always feel free, kevin, to highlight the details of what the president thinks of. >> course, but but i do want to come back and talk to you about
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avian flu, because very soon everybody's going to see a plan to get ahead of the curve on this thing. and we've been working on that 24 over seven. and again, the biden administration had absolutely no plan for the avian flu other than just killing chickens senselessly. and we're going to fix that and we're going to fix it soon is pretty much. >> you outline. >> kind of is confirmed. we're going to the ag department is going to be all over this. >> and i think that she's supposed to be moving forward in the senate this week. the the pillars of that plan. can you top line kind of how you guys are thinking about the approach? >> well, we'll have more on that soon. but but i can tell you the plan. the plan is very well formed right now and will be finalized in the coming week. >> kevin, the last one before i let you go, you mentioned kind of the treasury department, what the doge team has been looking into there. i know there's been a back and forth with op eds, and i listened to what you were saying about that op ed from five democratic treasury secretaries on cnbc earlier this week. you said malicious was kind of the way you framed the spending. you know, the bureau
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of the fiscal service, they can only kind of approve or disapprove. they don't have a lot of the options. the agencies are the ones who are supposed to flag those who do not pay list. part of the reason they do not pay list isn't as fulsome as it's supposed to be, is treasury doesn't have access to a lot of the databases. so why are you pinning this on treasury as being kind of the malicious actor? >> well, well it's not you're right that it's not just treasury, because what's happening? what happened to the biden administration is cabinet agencies all over the government would tell the treasury to pay stuff, and then the treasury would pay it without inspection. and the point is that there are still some things that they're supposed to communicate to the treasury before the treasury cuts the check. and those things weren't given to the treasury even. and so what we're doing is we're unwinding it all the way back to. but you're right that in the end, there's somebody somewhere and some other agency that's deciding to tell the treasury to send money to someone who they don't say who it is and they don't say why they're spending it. and we're totally getting on top of that. and everybody's like, oh, doge is controlling the treasury again. i don't think there are more than a handful of people at
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treasury who are just helping us, and they have read only access to the data. they're just looking at the data, trying to find what's been going wrong and help us fix it. the treasury secretary is on the ball, and with a couple of i.t. guys, they were able to outperform the hundreds of thousands of people in the u.s. government that look the other way. while our government was wasting american taxpayer money. it's unacceptable. all of us that that was going on and we're going to stop it. >> kevin hassett, appreciate your time, sir. as always, thanks so much. >> thank you. great to be here. thanks. >> well, it was a surreal scene just behind where kevin was standing inside the oval office, elon musk, we were just talking about him with his son in tow or on shoulders, joining president trump to address reporters and defend his doge agenda. standing next to the same resolute desk that a recent time magazine cover depicted him behind, the world's richest man downplayed concerns over potential conflicts of interest, as well as his outsized and unelected role in the administration. musk also offered, without evidence, numerous instances of fraud and
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waste. his doge team has identified even issuing this surprising concession. when pressed on some of those claims. >> some of the things that i say will be incorrect and should be corrected, so nobody's going to bat a thousand. i mean, any, you know, we will make mistakes, but we'll act quickly to correct any mistakes. >> here now to take. elon musk up on that offer is cnn senior reporter daniel dale. daniel, let's start with this luxury hotel story that elon musk has been talking about. a number of administration officials have accusing fema of violating the law by sending $59 million intended for disaster relief to new york in order to house migrants, in, quote, luxury hotels. what's happening here? >> so things things are murky here, phil, because they have not released a lot of details, but as far as we can tell, this was not actually disaster relief money. this is the same fact check we did after hurricane helene, when many republicans were making such claims. this $59 million came from a program called the shelter and services program, entirely separate from disaster relief funding, in
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which congress specifically appropriated money for states and cities to help with house the surge of migrants who came in during the latter part of the biden administration. now, what we know from new york officials is that the latest payment of about $59 million included about 19 million they say they used for hotels. they say none of that money went to luxury rates. they said we do not pay luxury rates. we put them in more modest accommodations. i can't independently confirm that, but i think we should wait for evidence from doge and the musk team before we believe it. >> yeah. transparency, evidence. we're all for it. it's you display better than anybody the concession from musk about being incorrect came following pushback over claims from him and the white house about condoms to gaza. what's the reality there? >> yeah. so, you know, people might hear that and say, oh, well, it's a candid admission from a rich, powerful man. he said, sometimes i'm wrong. certainly we're all sometimes wrong. but he said, we correct claims quickly. well, this candid admission came more than two weeks, or it came two weeks after this claim by the white house press secretary made headlines around the world and then repeated and further
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exaggerated by the president. the president made it $100 million in condoms for hamas. the reality is there is no evidence of any condom money going to gaza or hamas. now, mr. musk was informed by a reporter there. actually, we found out the money was condoms for mozambique. there's not even evidence of any condoms going to mozambique. this mozambique project that some people thought the white house might have confused because mozambique has a province called gaza that was not a condom initiative.
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names. so that's certainly not the spirit of transparency. >> and then he afterwards mentioned their names and retweeted. touting, i didn't even. >> see that. >> curious. he's very proud of their efforts. it's an engineering wise. it's said to be a talented team. all right. we're going to have to keep watching. i'm all for questions. to your point, taking questions like you did yesterday is helpful because there's a lot that i think we're trying to figure out right now. daniel dale always helping us do it. thanks. well, coming up, we'll go to capitol hill. the house doge committee. we just showed you holding a hearing right there. what they're calling the, quote, war on waste. we'll be back in a moment. >> welcome back. >> have i got news for you? saturday at 9:00 on cnn. >> if you have heart failure or chronic kidney disease, vasagar can help you keep living life because there are places you'd like to be serious side effects include increased ketones in blood or you're in and bacterial infection between the and genitals, both of which may be
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>> laura jarrett right now. both from senate confirmed officials, appointed officials and then kind of the quasi group that elon musk is running. the biggest question i have since democrats are in the minority in the house and the senate has been, is there any recourse or is it almost entirely based on the courts, to try and stop what you're talking about, the cfpb. republicans have long opposed the cfpb, have long tried to figure out a way to suffocate the agency's existence. now they're actually doing it. >> well that's right. look, there are three lines of defenses. but the most immediate line of defense are the courts. when you see this much illegal activity going on all at once, the courts have to be the first to react. and i've been working very closely with the lawyers bringing these cases in the courts, and we have seen so many
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temporary restraining orders issued in just the last few weeks. that's a reflection of the scope of illegal activity going on by the trump administration that thinks that it can use executive orders to make sweeping changes that really have to go through congress. now, you mentioned this congressional hearing. i would love to see them put up doge and project 2025 for a vote in the u.s. congress. i predict it would go down. it's very unpopular, which is why they're using these illegal means not going through congress, but through executive orders to try to do it. donald trump knew this was unpopular on the campaign trail. that's why he ran away from it. now he's got elon musk doing his dirty work. >> yeah. as someone who's following as many of those court cases as i can, i do have to wonder how the actual legal costs balance out with any cost savings that are discovered by doge at this point, i do want to ask you also a leading voice in your caucus on foreign policy issues, on the issue of gaza
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president trump making very clear his initial proposal, controversial proposal to in gaza to relocate palestinians redevelop the land into prime real estate. it was not just a kind of a trial balloon. listen. >> there is nothing to buy. it's gaza. it's it's a war torn area. we're going to take it. we're going to hold it. we're going to cherish it. >> mr. president, take it under what authority? it is sovereign. >> territory under the u.s. authority. >> senator, what's so striking? he was sitting next to king abdullah of jordan, a very close ally of the united states, arab states, very opposed almost immediately to what the president had laid out. um, what's how does this go from here? >> well, phil, what the president has done is he has lit a fire and thrown it on a keg of gasoline, because what's happening in gaza, what's happening in the middle east, is already a tinderbox. it's already on fire. and what he is
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doing is going to spread that fire. he has essentially called for what amounts to the ethnic cleansing of gaza, the forced removal of 2 million palestinians to other areas. king abdullah in jordan and of course, egypt have said not only is that repulsive from a moral perspective and a legal perspective, it will also destabilize their countries. it has emboldened phil, the farthest extreme right voices in israel. people like ben-gvir, people like smotrich. these are people who have been waiting for the opportunity to essentially find a way to move those palestinians out of gaza, and frankly, they'd like to move them out of the west bank. so what president trump has done, he came in saying he was going to enforce this cease fire agreement. he has made it much harder to move to the next phase. i hope we can do it. they were helpful. his steve witkoff was helpful in getting stage one implemented. but now president
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trump has made it harder to complete the job, despite the fact that he claimed that what he wanted to do was bring peace to the region. he's done the opposite. >> are you surprised there are people in kind of the trump orbit that you are never surprised when they immediately jump to support whatever the president says? i was reading what your colleagues, republican and democrat, were saying in the chamber after that proposal, and republican allies were very surprised, were very, i think, candid, at least in that moment, saying this isn't really a thing that can work. one who wasn't, though, was the secretary of state, marco rubio, who you served with in the u.s. senate, who was on the committee with you? are you surprised how quickly he got behind the proposal? >> look, i am. i my one vote i cast for a member of the trump cabinet was for now, secretary rubio. i regret to say that i regret that vote because once installed in office, he is essentially abandoning the positions that he took here as a united states senator. that's when he's in control. i mean,
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he's not in control of aid. elon musk is doing that. you know, rubio said he was going to consult with us on the aid situation at the very time elon musk was lighting it on fire. so, yes, i've been extremely disappointed in the actions of secretary rubio, including jumping on board on this insane wrong idea, which effectively is calling for ethnic cleansing in gaza because the president said he would be willing to use the military to do it. >> maryland democratic senator chris van hollen, i appreciate your time, sir. thanks so much. >> good to be with you, bill. thanks. >> well, right now we've been talking about the house doge subcommittee holding that hearing on what they're calling the, quote, war on waste. we're following it for you live. we're back in a moment. >> lockerbie sunday at nine on cnn. >> so i got you a little something.
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aren't going to people who don't qualify for the programs that they're applying for. but in this case, obviously, there is an injection of politics because democrats are arguing already in this hearing, you can't ignore what is happening outside of that room. we should note marjorie taylor greene is the chairwoman of this subcommittee, and we are already hearing from democrats that, yes, this should be bipartisan, but let's look at what elon musk is doing outside of the scope of just cutting back on waste, fraud and abuse. he is trying to unilaterally strike back on some of these, you know, government agencies that have existed by congressional approval for decades. and so i think that that is really the tone and tenor so far. they've really just been getting through their opening statements. they're hearing from the witnesses and their opening remarks right now. but i thought that this was really striking from gerry connolly. he argued a wrecking crew, a wrecking crane, a wrecking ball is not going to
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do it, and we are not going to support that approach. gerry connolly being, of course, a democrat who sits on this committee, but obviously, phil, there will be a lot more updates as this goes on and as democrats get more opportunities to weigh in in the hours ahead. >> lauren fox for us live from the halls of it looks like a senate building. i think it's one of them. it's one of them trying to find trying to find lawmakers. as always, appreciate the hustle. thank you. well, still to come, defense secretary pete hegseth, making his first appearance at nato and ruling out membership for ukraine. i'm joined by former u.s. ambassador to nato on what this means in the war against russia. next welcome back. >> have i got news for you? saturday at 9:00 on cnn. >> when it really philosophize about it, there is one thing you don't have enough of. and that's time. time is a truly scarce commodity. when you come to that realization, i think it's very important to spend
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>> 800 821 4000. >> new. this morning russia has launched another round of deadly strikes on ukraine's capital. the early morning drone and missile attacks killed at least one person and wounded four others, including a child. ukraine's president says it shows russia is not preparing for peace now that, as the defense secretary, pete hegseth is holding his first in-person meeting with his european counterparts. pete hegseth is pushing leaders of nato and the european union to accept a larger role in supporting ukraine, including funding and weapons production, and he's ruling out explicitly ukraine's future membership in the nato military alliance. >> the united states does not believe. >> that nato. >> membership for ukraine is a realistic outcome of a negotiated settlement. instead, any security guarantee must be backed by capable european and non-european troops. to be clear, as part of any security guarantee, there will not be
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u.s. troops deployed to ukraine. >> joining me now is kurt volker, a former u.s. ambassador to nato, also served as a special representative for ukraine negotiations during the first trump term. mister ambassador, thanks so much for joining us. what was so striking about what we heard from the secretary? there is a lot of what he was saying was kind of always understood to be the reality, but officials never said it out loud, and certainly not as directly as we just heard it. what did you make of that? >> yeah, that's exactly what i took away as well. that nothing in what he said is actually all that new. it was just expressed in a very direct and harsh way. i would also point out that nato membership should not be part of a negotiated settlement. it's none of russia's business. we should not be talking with russia about ukraine's future nato membership. that's for ukraine and nato allies to decide later. what i think the administration is setting out there. and to be clear, this is a prepared speech. pete hegseth. so it was obviously written in advance and cleared with the white house. it's three things.
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it is a ceasefire immediately. it is deterring future russian attacks. and then it is rebalancing the burden sharing. so europe is doing more. that's what we've been hearing consistently from the trump administration. i didn't really pick up much new in what seth was saying there. yeah. >> you make a couple really good points. one, what he said is exactly what the president and his team have made clear throughout the campaign. we kind of knew this was their position going in. but the second part was what you picked up, what i was when i read the comments. and then i watched them and i realized, okay, he's reading exactly from the prepared remarks to your point, wasn't doing that unilaterally, wasn't doing it off the cuff. what message are they trying to send in terms of the efforts to kick some type of negotiation into gear in the near term? >> right. i think it is, first off, immediate ceasefire. stop the fighting, stop the carnage. you hear that from president trump all the time. and then secondly, that europe needs to take the lead in future security for ukraine in order to deter
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new russian attacks, which we should anticipate are going to happen if there is a ceasefire, just like with the minsk agreements, before, putin is going to keep planning his attacks. so we do have to have future security for ukraine. and the u.s. is saying we want the europeans to take the lead. >> their capacity to do that. again, this has long been a discussion. it's long been an issue for president trump when it comes to europe's ability to provide to the level that the united states does. when you talk to european officials, your contacts over there, what do they think about their ability to fill any gaps yeah, they don't think they have the ability now. >> they know that they need to spend more on defense and build up that capability. and they find it very difficult to imagine doing that. but that's why i think president trump is pushing it, because it is something, ultimately, that they need to do. europe has to take more responsibility for europe's security. >> you what we've seen in these opening weeks, i think we're all trying to read tea leaves. we're
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trying to figure out where is keith kellogg, where is steve witkoff? obviously, there was the prisoner release and i think forthcoming exchange last night. do you see kind of a clear strategic pathway from this administration, and does it differ from maybe what we saw at various states in the first term? >> well, i do actually. the first term was about pulling america back. so 2017, after two terms of president obama and two terms of president bush, before that, america first meant pulling america back and focusing on things at home. in this second term of president trump, america first seems to be rebuilding american strength. it is taking a very assertive role in the world, whether it is with respect to ending the war in ukraine. so that's stopping putin there, ending the war in the middle east and putting pressure on hamas and iran. whether it is claiming that we need to do more about panama canal and greenland, it is a very assertive and america first
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strength stance coming from a second term. >> last night, the president, we were talking about the prisoner release, alluded to the fact that this would be helpful in whatever forthcoming talks there are related to the ukraine conflict. dmitry peskov didn't quite go that far when he was asked about it by reporters. he said, look, it's showing good faith in relationships is a good thing. didn't want to say anything about what it meant for eventual negotiations. is the president right? is this kind of a first step of a lengthier process that could deal with ukraine? >> yeah, i think so, i think so i remember the
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>> security assurances and putin is feeling a little bit left out of this. remember in his first day in office, president trump, even tweeted about sanctions to russia if they don't end the war. >> so putin is trying to get himself in. the bargaining here and releasing this american prisoner is one way. he's trying to show some goodwill and get trump's attention. >> what do you think the next steps are? >> i'm sorry. >> the next steps on this issue. specifically on ukraine for this administration. what do you expect to see? >> yeah, i think we're going to have the munich security conference this weekend where you'll have jd vance reiterating this message about europe needing to step up and do more and take responsibility for europe's security. you have keith kellogg, the president's special envoy, will be going to ukraine and other european capitals, and he's going to be listening. he's not going to be there projecting. this is what the plan is. he's going to be listening to. what are the europeans prepared to do to help secure ukraine for the future?
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what is ukraine prepared to do to accept a ceasefire and a peace agreement? where does this have to land? and then he'll come back and report to president trump. and i think president trump will be the one who will be driving this with phone calls to president putin, phone calls to zelenskyy. and i would expect eventually, after there's a ceasefire, that he would want to meet with putin and then nail down that this is a permanent peace. >> yeah. vance expected to meet on the sidelines with zelenskyy in munich. very critical days ahead on everything. ambassador kurt volker, thanks for walking us through it. appreciate it. >> pleasure. >> thank you. and we are following breaking news. the trump white house facing yet another lawsuit. that's next. >> lockerbie. sunday at nine on cnn. >> here's to getting better with age. >> here's to beating these two. every thursday. >> help fuel today with boost high protein complete nutrition you need and the flavor you love. so here's to now. now
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>> have i got news for you returns saturday at nine on cnn. >> the breaking news. top government watchdogs are suing the trump administration, claiming the president shouldn't have been able to fire them. cnn senior crime and justice reporter katelyn polantz joins me now. caitlin, they have a point. what does the lawsuit say? >> well, these are the inspectors general of eight of the different government agencies. there were actually 19 igs that have been fired by donald trump since he took office. eight of them are bringing this lawsuit, put on the pile of lawsuits against trump and his early actions as president. but they're saying they all got this email from the white house on january 24th, friday, four days into the administration, two lines saying on behalf of president donald j. trump, due to changing priorities, you're terminated, effective immediately. thank you for your service. goodbye. um, that is not what the law says. at least that's what they allege in the suit. they want
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their jobs back. they're saying that trump was supposed to, under the law, notify congress 30 days in advance before getting rid of these people if he wanted to, and also that they needed to be given a substantial substantive, case specific rationale for being terminated. now, this is just one of those suits to really pay attention to. it's about trump's power versus congress's power and checks and balances there. but this is also about waste, fraud and abuse. that's what these people do. they look at the agencies, they write reports. one example of one of these people fired, who is now suing phyllis fong. she was the ig at the agriculture department for 22 years. she did more than 7000 reports, found what the lawsuit says was $19 billion worth of fraud or waste at that agency, and have saved taxpayers that amount of money. she got one of those emails on friday, and then
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the following monday showed up to work and then had to leave the building when they took her laptop and her cell phone. so we'll see what happens in court. but this really is another one of those startling lawsuits to see how exactly this played out. >> the trump adviser has been unapologetic. they want their people in doesn't matter where it is across the government. have we heard anything from them since the suit has been fired? >> we haven't, not since the lawsuit has been filed. at least. i haven't seen anything yet. exactly. but we are seeing the justice department oppose all of these lawsuits across the board. they're going to go through lots of things in court coming. >> up, stephen miller told our jake tapper. they thought the notification requirements were unconstitutional. they moved on them. now we're going to find out what the actual ruling is. katelyn polantz as always, thanks so much. well coming up. we're minutes away from the senate vote to confirm tulsi gabbard as the nation's top intelligence official. will she have the votes? we'll watch. >> erin burnett out front tonight at seven on cnn.
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