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>> breaking news to cnn. president trump wrapping up what he calls a productive phone call with russian president vladimir putin, discussing the war in ukraine and agreeing to visit each other's nations. we have much more on their conversation and the implications of it coming up. >> plus. stocks rocked. >> on new prices going up. investors on edge after a new report shows. inflation increased last month. ahead what this all means for you. and also they're holding the line and they're under attack. president trump taking aim at the judges pausing or blocking his government overhaul. we're following these major developing stories and many more, all coming in right here to cnn news central we are following. breaking news. president trump saying that he just held a, quote, lengthy and highly productive call with

vladimir putin, the leader of russia. and he says negotiations to end the conflict in ukraine will be starting immediately. an official says president trump has also spoken with ukraine's president volodymyr zelenskyy. >> we're also learning that u.s. special envoy to the middle east, steve witkoff, met privately with putin while in moscow on tuesday. we have team coverage of these developments. cnn's natasha bertrand is live in brussels at a nato conference, and fred pleitgen is in moscow, both following this story for us. natasha, let's start with you. walk us through the details of this call.

>> hey, director, his national security advisors, secretary of state and middle east envoy steve whitt cough to begin negotiations immediately to end the war between and russia notably absent from that list of emissaries is trump's actual envoy to ukraine and russia, general keith kellogg, so it's unclear if he's been sidelined or if trump simply forgot to mention him. >> but this is a very significant call. apparently 90 minute call that he had with vladimir putin. and immediately after that call, he had a discussion with ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy. we are still awaiting the readout of that call, but it is safe to say that the ukrainians are not necessarily going to be thrilled about this conversation that president trump had with president putin, because they want to be involved in every conversation that involves them, especially when it comes to the war. now, all of this is coming as secretary of defense pete hegseth. he was here at nato headquarters in brussels today, meeting with nato and european

allies, talking about this very thing, talking about u.s. support or lack thereof for the moment, for ukraine and the future of it. essentially, his message was, look, ukraine, european allies, nato needs to step up even more. they need to carry the bulk of the burden in supporting the ukrainians. and the u.s. is going to step back here. here's a little bit of what he said earlier today. >> the united states remains committed to the nato alliance and to the defense partnership with europe. full stop. but the united states will no longer tolerate an imbalanced relationship which encourages which encourages dependency, rather, our relationship will prioritize empowering europe to own responsibility for its own security. >> one of the other most notable comments that he made earlier today is that the u.s. does not

believe that ukraine's membership in nato is a realistic objective of a negotiated peace settlement between ukraine and russia, something that, of course, the previous administration had never said previously. >> yeah. big news here. natasha. thank you. and, fred, i mean, an what we're hearing from the u.s. side of things is putin's coming to the u.s., and trump is going to russia. i mean, what's what's russia saying about this phone call? >> well, it certainly seems to be in the realm of of the possible. brianna. and one of the things that we can definitely ascertain is that the russians are pretty happy with the way that this call between vladimir putin and the u.s. president went down. in fact, the spokesman for the kremlin texted me after they had a conference call with journalists to sort of give the readout from the russian side and said that the conversation, as he put it, was quite positive and constructive. so clearly, the russians quite happy with the way that things happened. now, when we delve into that readout, it certainly seems that both the white house and the kremlin

pretty much are saying the same things. but the russians seem to have a different emphasis on certain things. one of the things that really stood out to us is that the russians are saying, and i'm quoting here, the topic of settlement in ukraine was also discussed. president trump spoke in favor of an early end to hostilities and a peaceful solution to the problem. and here's the interesting part, i think, is president trump in turn, mentioned the need to eliminate the root causes of the conflict and agreed with trump that a long term settlement can be achieved through peaceful negotiations, and that certainly is something that the russians have been indicating really over the past couple of days that we've been here is that after president trump had indicated that he wants to end the war in ukraine very quickly, the russians are saying, look, it's not going to be that easy when they speak about the root causes. they are saying that they do have certain red lines. they believe that the conflict is a lot deeper than the war that's going on right now. and there's certainly things that they believe still need to be discussed. of course, first and foremost, the territorial

questions with the situation on the battlefield, the russians obviously holding some territory in ukraine, the ukrainians holding some in russia, and then that question of potential nato membership for ukraine in the future. obviously something as well. but the russians also confirming that vladimir putin did invite president trump to come here to moscow. they also say that the two leaders agreed to try and solve problems together, to work in a constructive way together, also apparently touching on the middle east on technological issues as well. in total, the kremlin saying that this conversation lasted upward of 90 minutes and again, they seem pretty happy by the outcome and how things went down on that phone call. guys. >> yeah, a significant moment for this conflict between russia and ukraine. fred pleitgen, live from moscow. thank you so much. we're following even more breaking news to cnn. just moments ago, the state department announced a group of prisoners being released from a prison in belarus. one of them an american citizen.

>> cnn chief national security correspondent alex marquardt is here with some details. what do we know? >> well, this is day two of prisoner releases. this remarkable flurry of people being released by both russia and belarus coming back to the united states. yesterday we had marc fogel, the american who was released by the russians. today we have just learned three people released from belarusian captivity, one of whom is american. and this is very much playing into everything else that we've been talking about, which is the potential negotiations between russia and ukraine. the trump administration, seeing this as a good faith effort by russia to that will play into those negotiations. today, american officials saying that belarus is releasing these other three unilaterally, essentially agreeing with with with president trump's position of of of peace through strength. but make no mistake, belarus, russia

trying to curry favor with the trump administration here, i want to play a little bit of what two u.s. officials had to say after the release of these three individuals in belarus. take a listen. >> this was a unilateral gesture by the lukashenko authorities. they made this gesture because they are responding through what adam pointed out, which is the president's peace through strength agenda. they're responding to strength. they're looking to improve ties. this was a gesture on their side. >> it's important to note here that this is four releases we've had in less than a month of the administration. it's quite extraordinary. it's really a very rare thing. we work sometimes for years to get people out. i've personally worked on one of these cases for a number of years. and so to see this person come out of belarusian prison is quite extraordinary. >> so those are two senior officials in the state department, career officials. i

should note, and i think we need to push back a little bit on this claim, that that is a unilateral move by belarus. what is going on here is belarus is very much acting as a vassal state of russia. russia is trying to curry favor with president trump ahead of these negotiations with with ukraine. and what we're hearing is a lot of wins for vladimir putin today. you have president trump cozying up to him in this phone call, but you also have pete hegseth, the secretary of defense, essentially giving russia a lot of it wants to hear, which is no nato membership for for ukraine, that the fact that ukraine will not get back the territory that it had back in 2014, no u.s. soldiers being going on the ground as peacekeeping forces. so if you're in kyiv right now, you are likely quite upset about what you are hearing today. a lot of democrats are going to be angry about the trump administration giving over this notion of no nato membership,

essentially, without getting anything back from the russians. i heard from a european official who said, like, this is like the super bowl, starting with a score of 35 to 0 before kickoff in favor of russia. >> that is sort of how the super bowl went. we saw how it ended. alex marquardt, thank you so much. in the meantime, the first inflation report of the year is out and it shows prices are higher across the board. inflation hitting 3% for the first time since june. economists were not expecting that. they thought that this was going to be slightly lower. today's report an unwelcome surprise at a time when the federal reserve wants inflation slowing. and as uncertainty is growing over president trump's tariff plan. joining us now is cnn global economic analyst rana foroohar. rana, as you look at this, we should note, and i want to know what stands out to you, but also what you're expecting. as before, this report came out, president trump was saying, hey, interest rates need to be

lowered. >> yeah for sure. i mean, the president is is doing a lot to try and politicize what the fed's job is. but ultimately the fed's job is to look at the data. and that's what jerome powell has been saying. i think that what this means is they're going to go very slowly in terms of thinking about lowering interest rates. you know what stands out to me in terms of inflation right now and this report, is that it's taking into account some of the moves that the president has made. tariff wars inflationary, cracking down on undocumented immigrants. also inflationary. you can like that or not from a policy standpoint. but the fact is that more migration into the u.s. has been one of the leading reasons why you haven't seen more wage inflation, so that crackdown is potentially inflationary. and then at the same time, you've got the tax cuts potentially coming down the pike. that would then add more fuel to an economy that's growing pretty well, was growing pretty well before the president took over. so all of that together is for sure inflationary. and so the fed is

not going to be looking to lower rates in advance of that kind of report. >> yeah. because what would happen if they did lower rates. and also he's saying that lowering of the rates should go hand in hand with tariffs. is that how economists. that's how trump is saying it. is that how economists see this. how does the fed see this? >> um, no. in fact, it's diametrically opposite to what an economist would say. economists would say that tariffs are going to be inflationary. again, you can you can argue for them. there are some reasons why you might want tariffs, but they are going to be inflationary in the short term very likely. and so that means that the fed would be looking to keep rates where they are, not to add more fuel to the economy by lowering them. now, the president would like them to be lowered because he wants to offset any kind of inflationary impact from those tariffs. so he can say to the american people, look, there's not going to be pain here for you. we'll keep

the easy money going. we'll keep loans low and everything is going to be fine. but ultimately that's that's not how the fed works. they're going to be looking at data and, you know, barring barring anything dramatic. i do not think that jerome powell is going to change directions here. >> so national economic council director kevin hassett was on cnn earlier today. he says it's still possible to deliver lower interest rates for americans by cutting back on federal government spending, drilling more oil, cutting taxes and clawing back regulation. i think i know how you're going to fact check that, but fact check that, is he right? >> i got to say no, brianna. i mean, if you look, let's just take the federal spending and government efficiency question. look, there's a lot of reasons to want to make the government more efficient. but when you look at where spending really lives, it lives in entitlements. it lives in defense. and it's also about, um, interest rates on the existing debt. now, of

course, lowering interest rates, which would make the existing debt cheaper, is another reason that trump and the administration in general might want lower rates. but i just don't think that even if doge were actually going after efficiency, which i'm not convinced that they are based on what i've seen so far, i think without cutting those major entitlements and defense, it would be very, very hard to get to a situation in which, um, that kind of cutting is going to make a real difference. >> all right. rana foroohar, thank you so much for that. we do appreciate the reality check. in the meantime, we are awaiting on this quite consequential day. the white house press briefing. you can see the white house press corps is gathered there as we're waiting for the press secretary to come out. alex marquardt back here with us. and no doubt there are going to be a lot of questions about the conversation trump had with putin about what is happening right now, as they are kind of i think the white house, the

administration, alex, trying to spin this as belarus, russia, just sort of respecting the position that president trump is taking. there's going to be a lot of questions about what has happened today, what belarus may have gotten in all of this, and what is certainly good news that americans are being released. >> i think we really need to look at belarus as an extension of russia here. and that president lukashenko is doing this because president putin almost certainly asked him to. the u.s. also exchanged a prisoner. we should note a guy named alexander vinnik, a russian who was extradited here to the united states a few years ago. he is a convicted money launderer. so he got sent back to russia. this was a prisoner exchange. but before all this news came about, these prisoner releases, we were already trying to to set the stage of what was going to happen for ukraine this week. this is a monumental week for ukraine in particular, because we are leading into the munich security conference, which is an annual event where a lot of leaders, particularly

european leaders, gather. president zelenskyy is going to be there, but jd vance is going to be there. secretary of state marco rubio and others from the trump administration. and we've been trying to figure out generally the contours of what a peace deal might look like. and one of the new elements that has really been infused into this and really taken it over, is this notion that president trump really wants to get paid back for all the american support. and what he's been pushing is ukraine needs to pay us back with rare earth minerals. and so now the secretary, the treasury secretary is going to ukraine this week. and that really tells us a lot. >> alex, let's interrupt and actually jump into the briefing as it starts. let's listen. >> i can also confirm that the president just recently got off the phone with president zelenskyy of ukraine. his truth is as follows i just spoke to president zelenskyy of ukraine. the conversation went very well. he, like president putin, wants to make peace. we discussed a variety of topics having to do with the war, but mostly the meeting that is being set up on friday in munich, where vice

president jd vance and secretary of state, secretary of state marco rubio will lead the delegation. i am hopeful that the results of that meeting will be positive. it is time to stop this ridiculous war where there has been massive and totally unnecessary death and destruction. god bless the people of russia and ukraine. i myself just spoke to the president about these calls, and he told me to tell all of you. they were very good calls. they were very positive. and the administration is wholeheartedly committed to a peace deal to end once and for all. the russia-ukraine war. more on that later. i'm sure you will have more questions to ask this week. the president has continued to deliver on his promises to the american people, according to new polling that was released at the beginning of this week by cbs news. an overwhelming 70% of americans said that president trump is following through on what he pledged to do during his historic campaign. the poll also revealed that americans see

president trump as a tough, energetic, focused and effective leader fighting hard to improve their lives and our country. and yesterday in particular, was a truly special day for the united states of america, thanks to the great leadership of president trump and the strong and tough leadership of president trump. marc fogel, an american teacher detained by russia, was returned to american soil and met with the president here at the white house last night. special envoy steve witkoff and the rest of president trump's incredible national security team helped negotiate the exchange that secured marc fogel release. this event shows a good faith effort from russia, and it's a sign, as i just said, that we are moving in the right direction to end this brutal war. malphine fogel marks 95 year old mother was understandably very worried that she would never see her son again after his arrest in 2021. mrs. fogel was actually slated to join president trump on stage at the july 13th butler,

pennsylvania, rally to speak out for mark and then the infamous assassination attempt against president trump took place. but that day before the rally, president trump promised mark's mother that when he returned to the white house, he would bring her son home. god saved president. life's on that. president trump's life on that day in butler, pennsylvania. and now mark fogel is back home safely with his family. as a result. god is good. the president also continues to bring back common sense to our government. this week, he signed an eo to end the procurement and forced use of paper straws. taxpayer dollars were wasted on these nonfunctional and massively unpopular products for no other reason than it made radical activists feel good about themselves and on trade. president trump continues to take bold action to protect. >> we will continue to monitor the white house briefing here. we did just here. >> and the president. >> all right. we're going to continue to monitor the white house briefing here. we did just

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leave. they have limited doj's access to the treasury department's payment system, blocked trump's order ending birthright citizenship, and ordered the administration to unfreeze grant and loan payments twice. and despite all that, president trump is expanding musk's powers with a new executive order, telling agency leaders across the federal government to work with doge to prepare for large scale layoffs. let's go to cnn's jeff zeleny at the white house. jeff, what do we know about trump's new order that's telling federal agencies to start planning for these big layoffs? >> well, brianna, in a series of executive orders that really have defined the first opening weeks of the trump presidency, this is one yesterday. yes. the conversation with elon musk sort of overtook the actual executive order. but this has authority, and it's really sending some shockwaves across the federal government. and this is what it basically says it, you know, is, essentially putting into effect the doge of practices. and on hiring specifically for every

one new hire, there have to be four people who leave, and every new hire has to be approved. i'm told by someone on this doge task force. so this is not allowing agencies to bring on people that they believe need to come on even to fill open positions. every hire has to be approved. so this is very much a centralizing unlike most agencies have seen before. so certainly it is going to sort of instill this idea of shrinking the workforce, but also, brianna, we are getting new signs that this is a showdown between the white house and judges across the country is really heating up and intensifying. just a moment ago at the white house briefing, which we are monitoring, the white house press secretary called these judges a judicial activists. so a question here is, even though the president yesterday said i always abide by judges rulings, i will appeal if necessary. the the rhetoric and language about these jurists is

definitely intensifying, even as more courts are weighing in really from all corners of the country about some of these executive actions and the executive authorities. >> yeah, certainly. jeff zeleny live for us at the white house. thank you. boris. >> let's get some perspective now with marc short, a former chief of staff to vice president mike pence. marc, great to see you. you chuckled a bit when we went through the bullet points of what was in this new executive order. why? well. >> look, i think that for conservatives, we're celebrating actually cutting government. i think for so long republicans have talked about it and not been successful. and so i think i think there's excitement of actually being able to burrow into the federal government and take some of these actions. i think it paints democrats in a tough spot, too, because they don't want to be. i don't think they want to be sitting there advocating that, you know, pottery classes in morocco is good use of our dollars or lgbt theater in guatemala. but i do think that for republicans as well, if we really believe in these things, we should have them legislated. if the notion is that the executive branch can can do this unilaterally, what

happens when a democrat president comes in and says, you know what? i'm ordering all cbp officers to stand down. i'm telling cbp officers not to show up to work if we believe that that's what the executive branch can do unilaterally, it will have negative consequences. next time there's a democrat president. so if we really advocate for these things, they need to be legislated in the law. >> were you cheating and reading off my questions when brianna was speaking, i had a question specifically about that. this hypothetical, what if a democratic president installs this supra governmental agency and puts at the head of it someone who there isn't really that much transparency into their finances, and they unilaterally make these decisions about government agencies to that point, are you comfortable that we know enough about elon musk's financial dealings, not just within the united states? his deals with the pentagon, but also overseas, his financial dealings with the chinese to essentially hand him the keys to these sensitive government programs and to allow him essentially to to cut spending this way.

>> i actually i don't have as much concern about that. i think the reality is that most americans view elon musk as successful businessman. and basically streamlining government is a good thing. again, i think it's good for him to make recommendations of where we should be cutting, but ultimately, congress has the power of the purse, and congress is the one that needs to zero out these programs. and i think in many cases, the trump administration is showcasing why they're misallocation of dollars. and i think that builds a case for it. but again, if you take the next step and say that you can unilaterally do this, then you got to live with the consequences. when a democratic president unilaterally gets rid of republican programs or conservative programs that we like, like border patrol. >> but the thing is, he's just not giving advice. he's actually doing it. so so i think that's going to do it. >> i think that's going to continue to be litigated. right? i mean, i'm not to a degree, i do think that that's where the courts will step in. but again, i think that this is a challenge for democrats, too, because just in the previous administration, the courts ruled that you can't take the taxpayer dollars. of hard working americans to.

>> pay off the i know where you're going. >> with that. doctors and lawyers and the biden administration kept doing it regardless. >> i do want to get your thoughts, because you mentioned the courts taking care of it on this tweet. i think we have it. it's something elon musk just posted a few moments ago about this judge, who apparently ruled to put some health agencies websites back online that doge had taken down musk. they're tweeting this evil judge might be must be fired based on this accusation that he oversaw a case of one of the january 6th defendants who later committed suicide. i don't want to get into that part of january 6th. there were law enforcement officers who committed suicide after that day. but but focusing on the idea that you have musk tweeting about judges and arguing that the judiciary should be ignored or overstepped by the executive that flies in the face of what you're talking about, which is having a check the judiciary on what the executive is doing. >> absolutely. i mean, i think that in many cases, conservatives and republicans

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should not give her such an important post. he said the nation should not have to worry that the intelligence assessments the president receives are tainted by a director of national intelligence with a history of alarming lapses in judgment, in trusting the coordination of the intelligence community to someone who struggles to acknowledge these facts, is an unnecessary risk. now, even though they did not carry much water with other senate republicans, 52 of them voted to confirm her for the post. democrats who have been battling mcconnell for years on a whole host of other issues, came to his defense and praised the former republican leader. >> i think senator mcconnell is starting a new career and an admirable one, voting his conscience and standing strong for. the civil rights and liberties of this country. >> he spoke to. >> elon musk. i'm wondering how that conversation had went because he came after him pretty hard and then kind of backed off. >> of it. no, it was actually great. we didn't talk about gabbard once. um, we talked about doge. we talked about

kids. um, and he offered himself, believe it or not, to be my personal tech advisor. it's no secret that he's supportive of, i think, friends with miss gabbard, if that's what you're asking about. and that was a separate issue in my mind. >> so that last comment coming from senator todd young, he's a republican from indiana who sits on the senate intelligence committee who had some reservations about gabbard initially, and he came under fire, actually, from elon musk, who called him a, quote, deep state puppet, but later deleted that post on x. they did have a conversation. there. young also securing some commitments from gabbard herself on a number of issues, which is why he ultimately voted yes. but also republicans today falling in line behind the idea, behind pushing ahead with rfk jr. to lead health and human services department. that vote was advanced to a final confirmation vote along straight party lines. we'll look for mitch mcconnell. what he does on that vote

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the trump administration's edict to gut the federal workforce. remaining employees have been told to stand down from all work, including fighting financial abuse. and all of this is alarming. consumer advocates and ethics experts because they say there is a glaring conflict of interest between elon musk presiding over cfpb's shutdown while owning businesses that would benefit from weakened financial regulation. julie margarita morgan is the former associate director of research, monitoring and regulation at the consumer financial protection bureau. and julie, first, what is most alarming to you? because i think this is where a lot of people will start realizing what the cfpb does, what are the things that it will not be doing that most concern you thanks. >> thanks for having me here today. i think the thing that people really need to know is that there's a stop work order going on at the cfpb right now for virtually all of the work that the agency does. that means that the cops, who are usually

on the beat inside of large financial institutions, making sure that they're following the law, are no longer able to do their work. this is going to be incredibly consequential for american families. you know, over its history, the cfpb has returned $21 billion to consumers. and they do that by keeping a close eye on what these big businesses are doing, catching scammers, catching fraudsters, and making sure that people get redress. all of that has stopped right now. >> and on the conflict of interest point involving elon musk, just highlight for us the biggest ones as you see them. >> yeah, this is a really big point here. so elon musk has said that doge is about waste and government efficiency, but he has a specific financial interest here. elon musk from the start has said that he wants to turn x into a major payment system to a massive player in our financial system. the thing that stands in his way is having a strong regulator through the

cfpb, so he's not looking at cfpb as a place for waste, fraud and abuse. there isn't waste, fraud or abuse at cfpb. what he's looking at is weakening a regulator who stands in his way and in the way of his financial interests. >> and explain how cfpb would regulate something like that. obviously, the cfpb in the past has taken a very close look, for instance, at google pay, which i think people are very familiar with as sort of this kind of crossing platforms payment system. how would the cfpb be looking at something like that? >> i think what people need to understand is that we've seen this massive shift over the last few years where kind of the regular players in big tech like google, facebook x, apple have made these big moves into financial services. so they're becoming banks. they're offering payment platforms, they're offering credit cards, but they don't want to adhere to the same rules as other banks. they want to be a bank but not be held accountable as a bank. and

that's what cfpb would do. so cfpb just at the end of last year, had put in place a rule that would allow it to be on the ground the same way it is at other banks in these companies that offer digital payment platforms. so that's what this is really about for these big tech companies. >> so if i'm if i'm just someone sitting at home and i'm probably i'm hearing all of these acronyms as these agencies and doge is being thrown around, what i really want to know is, okay, well, how is this how am i going to see this? how am i going to see this in my bank account? how am i going to see this in lending practices? how is this on like a very real monetary level going to be impacting just an average american out there? >> yeah, i'm glad you asked that question because the cfpb does impact people's lives every day. number one, the cfpb is a place where people can actually call and file a complaint and be certain that they're going to get an answer to their complaints about financial issues. so if you have a problem

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barred from white house events yesterday over the news. organizations continued use of gulf of mexico instead of gulf of america. listen to this. >> thanks, carolyn. i have a few things for you, but on the commitment by president trump, he said that he and president putin agreed to visit each other's respective nations. are there any preconditions that president trump has that president putin must do before he goes and meets with him, withdrawing some forces, withdrawing all forces or anything like that? >> not that i'm aware of. that doesn't mean they don't exist. but i was just talking with the president in our national security team. i wasn't made aware of any conditions, but if they exist, i'm happy to provide those. >> and on the president himself, you know, he styles himself as this master negotiator. he is now deploying these negotiations, saying that they start immediately. we did hear from the defense secretary, pete hegseth, today saying that nato membership is not realistic for ukraine and neither is returned to pre 2014 borders. aren't they giving away bargaining chips before these negotiations have even started? >> again, i haven't talked to

the president about ukraine's nato membership, and he appointed several individuals to negotiate on his behalf. he's directly involved in these negotiations as well. and i'm sure if you ask him that question in the near future, when you're able to, he'll give you an answer. i just don't want to get ahead of him on it. >> and final thing for you, which white house official made the decision to bar the ap reporter from the oval office and the diplomatic reception room last night? >> well, first of all, let me just set the record straight. it is a privilege to cover this white house. it's a privilege to be the white house press secretary, and nobody has the right to go into the oval office and ask the president of the united states questions. that's an invitation that is given. and there are hundreds of outlets on this campus, many of you in this room who don't have the privilege of being part of that pool every single day and getting to ask the president questions. we reserve the right to decide who gets to go into the oval office. and you all have credentials to be here, including the associated press, who is in this briefing room today. >> but isn't it retaliatory in nature? is the argument, because

the reason that the ap was barred, which they said was because they're not using the phrase gulf of america, they're using gulf of mexico in line with their standards. and so the question here is, is this setting a precedent that this white house will retaliate against reporters who don't use the language that you guys believe reporters should use? and how does that align with the first amendment commitment that you were just talking about? >> i was very upfront in my briefing on day one that if we feel that there are lies being pushed by outlets in this room, we are going to hold those lies accountable. and it is a fact that the body of water off the coast of louisiana is called the gulf of america, and i'm not sure why news outlets don't want to call it that, but that is what it is. the secretary of interior has made that the official designation and the geographical identification name server, and apple has recognized that google has recognized that pretty much every other outlet in this room has recognized that body of water as the gulf of america. and it's very important to this administration that we get that right, not just for people here at home, but also

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