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a top democrat accusing him of possible perjury. >> president trump's pick to lead the fbi is about to face a critical vote. and job today. gone tomorrow. president trump and elon musk first started with paid leave in an effort to dramatically shrink the government workforce. now there's a new wave of firings overnight, and there are new details this morning about the phone call between donald trump and vladimir putin and what it could be setting in motion, what it could be setting in motion for ukraine. what does ukraine have to say about this? i'm kate bolduan with sara sidner and john berman. this is cnn news center. >> all right. any moment now, a critical senate committee vote for president trump's nominee to lead the fbi. kash patel. the judiciary committee is expected to advance his nomination to the full senate floor. that is despite the committee's top

democrat, senator dick durbin, lodging some serious allegations. durbin saying multiple sources have told him that patel had already ordered fbi firings, even though he has not been confirmed for the job. it's also a big day for some of the president's other picks. the full senate expected to vote on robert f kennedy jr.. s nomination for health and human services secretary. and there's a committee hearing for trump's pick to lead the department of education, linda mcmahon. cnn's lauren fox is covering all of this on capitol hill, an extremely busy day. you have these three nominees. what are you learning? >> yeah, i actually standing outside of the room where the senate judiciary committee is going to vote in just a couple of minutes on kash patel nomination. now, democrats have been opposed to this nomination from the start, and it was really unclear when he was nominated whether or not he would get the support that he needed from republicans. but so far, many of the republicans, including all of those on the

judiciary committee, have said that they are supportive of patel. and that leaves democrats with very few options to slow down this nomination. what they had done is held over a vote in committee by a week. that is something that typically democrats or republicans in the minority do when they are dealing with a contentious nomination vote. but that is really the limit of how far they can go, at least in the committee side, to try to slow walk these nominations. here is the top democrat on the committee, dick durbin, on what democratic options are right now that's where. >> i want you. >> because he's not at cabinet level. it's two hours of debate before the vote, and we can try as we wish. but there's only a limited amount of opportunities to delay. and so i can't say when he'll be scheduled for a floor vote, but likely with limited debate. under the senate rules. >> and there you have him

talking about this floor process. because of the nomination process and the rules in the senate being changed a couple of years ago, democrats can't stop these nominations because they only require a simple majority vote. which leads us to a very key vote that's going to happen on the senate floor in just over an hour. and that is for rfk jr. to lead the health and human services department. we had expected that he potentially may not have even made it out of the senate finance committee a week ago, but then senator bill cassidy, a republican on that committee who had expressed deep reservations about his nomination, ultimately came to the conclusion that he was ready to back rfk jr.. and after that hearing, that really has cleared the way for him to get confirmed. now, yesterday, all of the republicans voted to advance this nomination to a final vote. but we are keeping a very close eye on senator mitch mcconnell. he is a republican. the former republican leader who actually has voted against a number of trump's nominees,

including tulsi gabbard just yesterday on the floor. so we're going to be watching mitch mcconnell's vote very closely today to see whether or not he backs rfk jr.. of course, mitch mcconnell, a polio survivor and huge advocate for vaccines for children, and of course, was a huge advocate for the covid 19 vaccine when he was the republican leader. >> all right, lauren fox, thank you so much. a lot going on there. and you are outside the room where it is going to happen. appreciate it john. >> all right. with us now is cnn senior law enforcement analyst andrew mccabe. and andy, we are monitoring this committee vote on kash patel. it would be surprising, frankly, if they do not vote to push this nomination forward to a vote on the full floor, even after the minority leader of this committee, dick durbin, raised these questions about kash patel orchestrating the dismissal of some people in the fbi even before he's confirmed, even after there have been questions raised about honesty in his initial testimony in the confirmation hearings. what do you make of all that? >> well.

>> john, i. share your expectation. >> that he. >> will likely. >> pass through this portion of the. of the of the. confirmation process. >> there's not been a single republican voice speaking out, indicating even any kind of concern with his nomination, which is really shocking to me. but i honestly, i think the letter from senator durbin in the last few days is i'm just surprised it took as long as it did to get there. i think anyone who watched that hearing, um, you know, could, could identify several things, many things the kash patel said under oath during that hearing that were that were misleading, quite frankly. and, you know, that's the purpose of the confirmation process. it's not to course through everything somebody ever said. and you are they like that they lie then or did they not lie now the the issue is to bring up issues that senators should consider before they put this person in this case, kash patel in the role of fbi director and the fact that he appears to have misled the committee on numerous facts and

numerous answers, where i as senator on that committee, i'd have a really hard time pushing that guy forward. >> if he is confirmed. and right now, what you're watching is a committee vote. if they vote yea, then it will move to the full senate floor for a vote sometime later. but if and when he is confirmed, andy, what checks exist within the fbi or the department of justice on his power? what's to keep him from doing certain things? >> the fbi director has very, very little limits on his ability to influence and direct the activities of the fbi. right. so he's not a cabinet level position technically. the director reports to the deputy attorney general, and there is obviously a degree of oversight that comes there from the deputy attorney general and the attorney general. they can fire the director, as they did with director comey. but day to day, the director has an enormous impact on the direction, the

culture and specific investigations within the bureau that the director chooses are worthy of his or her attention. so if kash patel decides he wants to unleash the fbi, it's awesome. investigative power and its legal authority. in an effort to get back at americans who he thinks have somehow insulted or been disloyal to the president, he can absolutely do that. will fbi people go along with it? i suspect that many of them will not. they will likely be quickly fired. so eventually he'll come up. he'll be able to identify a cadre of people who will execute his will no matter what it is. be that opening investigations that lack adequate predication or are overtly political. i suspect he'll be able to do those things if he chooses to. >> what breadcrumbs are easter eggs either way, either metaphor have there been either in his testimony, in his writings, or in the actions of attorney general pam bondi in the days that she has been officially in

office? how does that indicate that he may behave quickly when he is confirmed? what are the first things you think he might do? >> well, unlike his his senate confirmation testimony, which i think was, uh, was it misleading, at least i think in his prior statements and writings, he's been very clear about what he intends to do to the fbi. he has a very dim view of fbi headquarters, has talked about closing it and opening it as some sort of a museum. uh, he has said repeatedly that he wants to throw most of the fbi out of the washington area and out of headquarters. he doesn't want people to actually have to come through headquarters to be promoted. he views people who have served in the fbi, in fbi headquarters or in leadership positions very negatively. he refers to them as the deep state. he's he's comprised comprised an entire list of people he thinks are in the deep state. he put it in his own book. he describes deep state people as the greatest threat to american democracy, not china,

not iran, not terrorism, not the fentanyl crisis, but washington bureaucrats that he thinks are somehow conspiring against republicans. and he has pledged to, quote, unquote, defeat them. so i think he's told us exactly what he's going to do. it's the sort of things that we have not seen in fbi director do since j. edgar hoover, the sort of activity that prompted decades of reformation of the fbi, but nevertheless, that's that's what he has maintained he's going to do. if he's if he's confirmed. >> you know, in a vacuum, what reforms do you think the fbi requires at this moment within. >> the fbi can always be improved. and it's very typical when we get a new director. i experienced this many times in my time in 21 years in the bureau, new directors come in and push things in a new direction. they change the size of the bureaucracy. louis freeh was famous for having pushed many agents from headquarters out to the field. robert mueller

did the exact opposite. felt we needed more. central direction and leadership over national security programs, particularly jim comey reopened the fbi to the american people and was much more transparent and clear about what we were doing and why we were doing it. so all of those things are are are good ideas at the time, um, the fbi could be reduced, it could be more efficient. it could be, i believe, more transparent with the american people. but you're not hearing kash patel talk about any of those things. really? what he's confined his comments to our political retribution and and basically waging war on the men and women of the fbi. >> andrew mccabe, we appreciate your insight in all of this. we continue to watch the senate judiciary committee, and we will update all of you. if there is anything surprising from that. sarah. >> all right. first they were told to resign. now they're just being fired. hours after a judge cleared the way for the trump administration's buyout plans. federal employees are finding out they no longer have a job as

president trump and elon musk carry out their plan to dismantle entire government agencies. the target overnight, the small business administration and the department of education, which trump has vowed to close entirely. let's get right to alayna treene at the white house for us. elena, what are you learning as these federal employees wake up to find out they do not have anywhere to go. >> right. this is significant, sarah. i mean, as you mentioned so far, all of the layoffs, so-called layoffs we've seen have been placing these employees on paid administrative leave. this is not that. and this is really starting with from what we're learning, the department of education and the small business administration. i mean, scores of people who were on what they were placed on earlier this year, probation and now being told that they are being fired and their contracts being terminated. that is new. and i'm told it's starting there, but it's going to be spreading to other agencies as well. now, also, this isn't

entirely surprising. we had actually broken the story last week that this was coming. they had been planning really shortly after the administration was going to close the deadline for what they were referring to as buyouts or the deferred resignation program, essentially allowing more than 2 million federal government workers to place themselves on paid administrative leave and get paid till the end of september. once that deadline was hit, that was supposed to be last thursday, but it got tied up in the courts. they were going to begin with these sweeping layoffs, as i mentioned. that deadline was initially delayed, but we did see a judge, you know order or lift, really the pause on that deferred resignation program. and then soon after they closed that at 7 p.m. last night. and that's when we began to see some of these sweeping layoffs. now, i do want to just get to kind of the big picture of this all. obviously, this has been a core goal of the trump administration and president trump himself, but also a core goal of elon musk and doge, which is working very hard right now to try and reduce the size

of the federal government and the workforce. we heard elon musk himself talk about this and kind of frame some of these firings, particularly though the paid administrative leave program, the deferred resignation program, as being a generous offer to these workers. take a listen to how he put it. >> if people retire, they get paid all the way through september. they can go on vacation, they can get a second job, they can do whatever they want. there will be some disruption, but at the end of the day, we'll have people move from, like i said, from low to negative productivity roles to in the government sector to higher productivity roles in the private sector. >> and i will say, sarah, that last line from musk where he said these, you know, lower productivity roles in the government wanting them to be more higher productivity. we do know some federal workers had reached out to cnn saying that kind of chafed them. they felt that that was devaluing some of their work. but all to say this, again, has started in these two agencies, the education department and the sba, but is expected to be more widespread.

so far, we don't know the exact number or the scale of these firings, but they are expected to continue. >> elon, they're sort of throwing salt in the wound of some of these federal employees. thank you so much, alayna treene appreciate it, kate. >> so a key vote on capitol hill today. senators are about to take up and decide if trump's pick to lead. the fbi gets to advance. we're going to take you there live as soon as it happens. you're looking at live pictures from capitol hill right now. and defense secretary pete hegseth is meeting with u.s. allies and defending president trump already publicly taking things off the table in terms of how to end russia's war in ukraine. trump's words prompting this from his former national security advisor. >> well. >> i think putin couldn't be happier. i tell you, they're drinking vodka straight out of the bottle in the kremlin tonight. it was a great day for moscow. >> have i got news for you is back for another season. roy wood jr., amber ruffin and michael ian black are finding

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>> as president trump has said, stopping the killing. >> joining me right now is a former u.s. ambassador to ukraine, john herbst. ambassador, it's good to see you again. i want to play for you two things that we heard from president trump just yesterday. listen to this, please. >> do you. >> view ukraine as an equal member of this peace process? >> um, it's an interesting question. i think they have to make peace. their people are being killed, and i think they have to make peace. >> we will. >> i said that was not a good war to go into. and i think they have to make peace. that's what i think. >> would you. >> support zelenskyy. ceding territory. >> or exchanging. >> territory in any. >> agreement to. >> end the war? >> well, he's going to have to do what he has to do. but, you know, his poll numbers aren't particularly great, to put it mildly ambassador, how do you interpret now how president

trump is setting up the negotiations to end this war um, i think that the best way to negotiate in this situation where ukraine has expressed a readiness to compromise about the elements of trump's approach and russia has not demonstrated any interest in compromising along the elements of trump's approach is to put leverage on the kremlin. >> trump did that very effectively with his criticism of putin as being the obstacle to peace. a couple of weeks ago. i think that the events of the last 24 hours have clouded that very smart approach. >> interesting. german germany's defense minister spoke out this morning and called the public concessions that have been put out there by and trump. he described it as regrettable. and here's what else he said. it would have been better to discuss a possible nato membership for ukraine, or the country's possible territorial losses only at the negotiating table, and not to take it off the table

beforehand. what is left for ukraine to gain in the negotiation to end this war, after what they have already taken off the table? ambassador i agree with with the german defense minister pistorius. >> he's a very sound geopolitical thinker. uh, the thing is that we've known for maybe two months now, the general approach trump was taking or is taking one is on compromise on ukraine's part. they'll lose territory and also a moratorium on ukrainian membership in nato for 20 years. that's not my preference. but this has been out there for two months now. but then he's demanding of russia compromise, too, because we know that putin's objective is to take effective control of ukraine, maybe in pieces bit by bit, but that's his goal. so to stop that, trump has said there should be a demilitarized zone between russian and ukrainian forces, where european troops would be deployed and ukraine should be armed to the hilt. so

if that's the approach and you realize putin is the principal obstacle, then you double down on leverage on the kremlin. we have not seen that in the last couple of days. and statement made by secretary hegseth that, you know, u.s. troops would not be involved in making sure ukraine is free of russian aggression is the same thing the biden team did when they said u.s. troops would not be involved. even if that's your intention, why tell the russians that now? that enhances the hardliners i ne in moscow and makes them less willing to compromise. so it was a serious negotiating mistake. just as trump's emphasis on him meeting putin and not so much his meeting, zelenskyy sends the wrong message about whose interests, meaning putin's interests will be given greater consideration. but trump did not say that. he did not say that. to my mind, the best thing of the last week has been trump's interest in reaching an understanding with

ukraine. on getting ukraine critical minerals, rare earth minerals which they have in abundance, and perhaps sending u.s. weapons to ukraine for that. that would be very much an american interest, and that would send a message to putin. he cannot win this war by continued military operations. >> how should or do you think, will europe respond to what seems to be, you know, some clear terms that president trump is now laying out for these negotiations? >> well, europe hopefully will step up. uh, trump's idea of a dmz, a demilitarized zone with european troops is a good one. but the europeans are not used to taking this initiative. this is an exceptionally difficult crisis for them. they don't have the military power of the united states. so for them to consider doing this, which is risky on their part, they will need some clear guarantees from the united states, not just about logistical support, not just about intelligence support, but

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honesty in confirmation hearings, questioning some business dealings and many other things as well. let's listen in just for one second, first to chuck grassley, and then perhaps we will hear senator durbin as well. >> i hope. >> you hear that. put them in. >> a position. they were in before they had their retaliation. president trump. >> i hope you. >> hear that. if you can hire people, you can reinstate people. >> president trump. >> that's part of what this committee ought to be focused on. solutions to the rampant weaponization and whistleblower retaliation. these are two issues that kash patel is perfectly suited to fix because he's lived those those issues. senator durbin. >> thank you. >> chairman grassley. >> after reviewing kash patel record and meeting with him, questioning him at this hearing, i'm even more convinced that he has neither the experience, the

judgment nor the temperament to lead the fbi. a little history 50 years ago, frank church led an effort to investigate the federal bureau of investigation. they came up with a sweeping reform and conclusion congress passed a law limiting the fbi director to a single term of ten years, subjecting the appointment to the advice and consent of the senate. these actions were taken specifically to ensure that fbi director remains apolitical and is shielded from outside influence, and that no fbi director amasses the kind of power that j. edgar hoover, the founder of the fbi. exercised when he had wiretaps on martin luther king, jr. and other civil rights leaders and branded them as communists for the last half century. these laws, this law, has served its purpose. >> as you can hear, senator dick

durbin vehemently opposed to the nomination of kash patel, going through the reasons why he thinks he is unqualified to lead the fbi. this committee vote will happen shortly. we will keep you posted. what happens? it is anticipated that kash patel will be passed through the committee if that does not happen, obviously we will let you know. also this morning, house republicans have released their budget blueprint calling for a minimum of $1.5 trillion in spending cuts up to $4.5 trillion in tax cuts. the response from democratic congressman jim clyburn of south carolina, quote, republicans want to cut medicaid for seniors all the while. elon musk just got a $38 million government contract. they have one agenda stealing from the poor and giving to the rich. with us now is congressman james clyburn, a member of the house appropriations committee. congressman, thank you so much for being with us. we just read that that tweet, that statement from you out loud. what do you mean? >> well. >> thank you very much for having me. it's simply that this

reverse robin hood. >> has been taken. place by republicans for a long time. >> everybody enjoyed tax cuts. >> the question is, how do you make them. >> fair? >> and there's been nothing. >> fair about these. tax cuts. >> now, i have not read. thoroughly the contours of this budget. that we are supposed to be seeing in a few minutes. but from what i've. >> seen. >> we are talking about. a trillion and a half dollars in tax cuts. and then you're talking about preparing to give another big tax break to multi-millionaires. now all of these so-called matthew 25 christians that operate in this place, this doesn't seem as if it's a fulfillment of doing for the least of these. we are doing much more for the wealthy, the

wealthiest among us. and that's what is going on with this budget. and that is just unfair. it's not the american way. and i just think that we ought to really take a hard look at what comes before us. >> you mentioned possible cuts to medicaid. what are your concerns there? >> well, my concerns are about certainly people who are low income people in need of health care. and that is a lot of what medicaid is about. but medicaid is also about nursing home care. and the fact of the matter is, i've been telling people all the time, you keep focusing on the beneficiaries of these laws, like people who are in nursing homes. what about the people who benefit from benefit from them? if you own a nursing home, this is going to have dire consequences upon you and the people that you hire in that nursing home. and so i just

think that we ought to really think about what it is we're doing to the economy and not just withholding help from people in nursing homes, but you are going to have a lot of people unemployed, and you're going to have a lot of people owning some nursing nursing homes that they're going to have to put in mothballs. and i don't see how that helps the economy at all. >> as this process moves forward, how willing do you think democrats should be to vote in a way that would lead to a government shutdown? >> well, you framed that question in a very interesting way. we ought to vote in the best interest of the american people. and i think that that's what we're going to be doing. nobody wants to shut the government down. that, too, leads to unemployment. we want to do what is best for the american people, and we should vote that way. and so if people

are coming forward with these unfair tax cuts, making these unfair cuts to services, we need to vote against that. yep. can i just ask voting to shut the government down? that's saying that the people the government is open, it's running smoothly. let's continue going that way. and if you come out with a billion, $1 trillion and a half tax cut, that's what's going to be shutting the government down. your proposals, not my vote. >> i want to ask you very quickly. you've been in leadership, democratic leadership for a while. on the senate side, mitch mcconnell has been in republican leadership, was for a long time now that he's out of leadership, he's casting some interesting votes against the confirmation of pete hegseth and tulsi gabbard. we don't know about robert f. kennedy today, but what do you think of these votes from mitch mcconnell against a republican president? >> well, i think they're interesting votes because mitch has for a long time been voted in one way. and talking to

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you. to be fair, i've been to that mall, and it's a good mall. >> it's a quality mall. >> it's a quality mall. >> so they have. babygap there. is that where you bought your. >> outfit? oh. >> let's not get personal. >> what? >> i've been taking. >> incoming fire. >> all my. >> you were. i could feel it. it was, you know, coming and coming and coming and then boom. >> by the. >> way, making kara swisher laugh is, like, true win means she knows how to stay stone cold. >> oh, yeah. >> she has. >> a she has a really good poker face. >> yeah. >> no, that was that was my finest moment of. >> last season. was roasting kara swisher, who literally is. i feel. >> like. >> the. >> smartest person i've ever met. she's a brilliant woman. >> she's also. >> so where do you find the material? there's just nothing out there, really to joke about. >> yeah. i mean, it's been a slow news cycle. and last season was slow. i don't know what we're going to talk. >> about this this season. >> i guess the weather. it'll be

a lot of weather talk. >> i understood nothing to do with buying greenland or, you know, anything like that. >> that red, white and blue land. >> thank you. my bad. >> thank you. >> golf club. >> don't mess. >> and if you don't say that, you're going to lose access to the oval. >> office, correct? >> what is the team captain like? what? >> i'm still in. >> how does. >> it feel to it? it feels great. yeah. i was expecting. >> that there would be a sash. >> i wouldn't do it with. >> no sash. >> i didn't get you one. >> thank you. i mean, i don't know if. >> cnn cheaped out on the sashes. >> i don't know why you guys don't have sashes. >> budget cuts. please. >> this is not the time to talk about budget cuts. i did do a little tiny bit of research. >> first time. >> for everything. first time for everything. you know what? i will deal with you later. >> sorry, mister. >> are you. are you the co-captain of this. >> show, captain? >> that was my. shot. audition tape. >> like he's like. >> i'm going to get. >> it. >> john, you can be on the show. it's fine. you can be on. have i got it? >> in fact, he has a photographic memory. >> he pretends he doesn't. and that's why he's. >> this is true. harvard.

anywho, i went and looked. i didn't know that roy would. he actually was a reporter at one point. at a local. well, he was. and wait, this is the funniest part because this is the part i didn't know that he worked for a morning show called buckwild morning show. i mean, the jokes kind of write themselves, do you? i think you should bring that up this season. >> i will bring it up. >> i didn't know. >> what's it called? >> the buckwild. buckwild morning show. >> that's. yeah. >> we're taping tomorrow, and that will be the first thing out of my mouth. >> oh, so. >> you're you're like a poker. you're like a gamer. you're like a poker player. you like. you know. so. so i the show, which is very funny, sort of a game, sort of not i mean, the type of game. how do you combine gamesmanship with comedy is what i guess. >> well, the. >> important thing to remember when you watch. >> our show. >> is there's games. >> and they. >> don't matter. >> at all. so it's all comedy. >> with. >> you know, a fiction of gaming involved. >> is there? >> what is what is the balance on news, right. it is a hyper charged time. that's not new. do you find it is hard to find a balance of making fun of a headline and. >> well, i think the challenge.

>> for our show is obviously. >> there are. >> certain personalities. >> right now who. >> are. >> dominating the. >> news cycle. >> and i think, yes. and i think our challenge is. >> to not make the show entirely about those personalities. like, there's a whole big world out there and we want to make fun of all of it. >> so not just carrot top jokes. >> next time. say spoiler alert because this week is all carrot top jokes john. >> he so wants to be a. >> part of the show. >> this is his ploy. it is so obvious. >> please invite us. >> so we can just be on some show. that's all i've been. >> asking for. >> it's really fun. >> yeah, it's so much. >> and congratulations on going to harvard. >> that's not me. that wouldn't. >> be her. >> that would. >> be me. >> him? >> no. >> i got high school girls. >> no, i still went to way too expensive private school. i got declined from harvard. thank you very much. >> college dropout over here. >> yeah. >> and look at. look at you. you got the. >> best deal. >> since harvard. so we. >> have that. >> they're disowning you, and

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