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reshaping of the federal government. and it went from being the future of solar energy to a, quote, financial boondoggle. why? the owners of a massive field of solar panels are closing up shop. we're following these developing stories and many more, all coming in right here to cnn news central. we begin with breaking news out of the white house. president trump is signing sweeping new executive orders in the oval office. and he's calling this the big one reciprocal tariffs. >> let's bring in richard quest, cnn business editor at large and anchor of cnn's quest means business. richard, what are you anticipating will be the impact of these reciprocal tariffs? >> well, these are the this is the big one. excuse me. in a way much more so than the canada mexico bilaterals or the chinese ones, because they had other

purposes fentanyl, immigration. but this is designed to change the balance of terms of trade. this is designed to rebalance at least towards the u.s. favor when it comes to doing international trade, because the united states does have one of the lowest average import tariffs. it's around two, 2.5% depending on the actual goods and services. in many, many other cases. other countries charge the u.s. more. and there's strong reasons. in some cases they could be liberalized. they could have very restricted economies. they could need the revenue. all sorts of reasons. but the u.s. is saying enough and there is good, strong reason for doing so because the u.s. has been the market where many countries like to dump their industrial goods because it is such a exciting, vibrant market. and donald trump is saying, no, we will do for tat. if you

charge us, we'll charge you. and guess what the test here is going to be? how they calculate, what they calculate and how they do it. >> and the tariffs aren't going to kick in immediately. how much does that matter in terms of this maybe being a sort of a stick that the president is going to wave around? what do you think? >> yeah, absolutely. because this is very clever. this is i mean, this is the right way to do it. reciprocal tariffs are not the greatest evil of, say, punitive tariffs. this is basically saying you have done this to us. we're going to do the same to you. and the way you do it. and i think they're doing it the right way is my early understanding. you give time for the other countries to respond and say, okay, we'll take the tariff off, we'll reduce it, we'll agree to do this, that or the other, because the effect and this is core to

understand, if these tariffs go into effect, that means the exporting country will pay the money to the u.s. treasury. and then they'll pass the cost on to the u.s. consumer. and so it's a matter of how it's engineered. in an ideal world, you want the ideal scenario. the ideal scenario is donald trump says, i'm going to slap this tariff on unless you take your tariff off. they take the tariff off. you don't put the tariff on. win, win. that's how it should work. >> i wonder, richard, where you think these tariffs are going to sting the hardest? and whether you think it's any coincidence that a couple hours after this signing or the announcement of these tariffs, he's going to be meeting with prime minister modi of india, which as you know, slaps about a 10% tariff on u.s. goods being imported to that country. right. >> and and has an overall tariff

rate, an average tariff rate of over 10%. so it'll be an uncomfortable it'll be an uncomfortable conversation if modi hasn't traveled with a bag of give ups ready to offer up to the president. i would imagine it will be a short, short shrift of a conversation. but to give you a perspective, germany has an average tariff of 1.3%, japan 2.3%, the u.s. 2.3. but listen to those that are really big. bermuda 35%. congo 18%. now these are closed economies where they're really trying to protect their their economy from foreign competition. what the president is trying to do, and i think it's a it's a very it's more it's a blunt but more sophisticated way than he's done with china and canada and mexico so far, is to say we're going to target. you're going to have the chance to withdraw your tariff, and only then will we slap it on. and if we do slap it on, well, then i'm afraid the american consumer will end up paying the bill. that's the

downside that he won't be telling you. >> richard quest, thank you so much for the analysis. appreciate it. president trump and elon musk's efforts to drastically downsize the federal government appear to be entering a new phase. we've learned that the administration has begun firing scores of probationary employees. these are relatively new hires at the department of education and at the small business administration. >> and until now, the trump administration had only been placing federal employees on administrative leave. cnn's rene marsh is with us now on this story. what more do we know about just how many, how broad these layoffs or firings are? >> so we have been close contact with the union, and at this point, they don't even have totals. and they are actually expecting to hear from even more employees. but what we do know is that we're hearing from employees and union members at the department of education, small business administration. again, we're starting to hear from other agencies as well. but

who are some of these individuals and what divisions do they work in at the department of education offices, like the general counsel's office, the special education and rehabilitation services office, and federal student aid office? um, we even obtained a letter that one of these employees received, essentially telling them that they were terminated and just wanting to read a line from that. and in that letter, it says that the agency finds, based on your performance, that you have not demonstrated, that your further employment at the agency would be in the public interest. so just a sampling of the language that some of these employees are receiving. of course, these firings, again, as you point out, this is a new phase. and and we certainly believe that this is maybe the beginning of the new phase. and we are going to likely hear about more of these firings. and again, many of these are probationary employees. um, we're also aware

of this opm memo in which they instructed agencies, hey, don't get rid of all the probationary employees. um, also focus on the low performers. uh, so we may see a mix here, but for many of the employees that we've heard about, many of them are indeed probationary. um, and just starting to get text messages from people who, you know, within the federal government, their friends. and it is an emotional time as they're starting to get these, these letters. um, not that you're on leave, that you are out of a job. and so emotions are high and, um, they're obviously concerned about their families and, and some of these federal workers come from a household where both mom and dad, husband and wife are both in the federal government. so difficult time for many of these individuals. >> yeah. certainly is. rene marsh, thank you so much. joining us now to talk more about this. we have republican

congressman warren davidson of ohio. he is also on the foreign affairs committee. um, sir, thank you so much for making time for us. do you have concerns that reciprocal tariffs, especially when coupled with all of these other tariffs that trump is proposing, that they could be inflationary? >> well, just like your previous guest said, the goal is to get fair treatment for american companies. you know, prior to coming to congress, i owned manufacturing companies. and look, is a great sector. it's a strong, uh, you know, component of america's economy. but a lot of times we're not competing against foreign companies. we're competing against foreign countries. that's particularly true in china. and the other thing that your previous guest didn't mention, it's not just the tariff level. um, it's you have a value added tax at the border. so the average european value added tax is north of 20%. so whatever the tariff level is, you can essentially add 20% to that. i think around the world there may be 15 to 22%, uh, in

the range for this value added tax. so everything coming across the border is another 20 to 25% higher in the u.s. you know, we're averaging about 3% at our border. we don't have a value added tax. so it's a huge competitive advantage. and donald trump is trying to close that gap. >> so and i think the hope certainly the hope of wall street is that ultimately these will not go through. i wonder then what you think the negotiating value is in threatening tariffs that ultimately may not go through because trump promised to lower prices for americans? every economist says that tariffs will do the opposite. do you have any concerns that trump may be in danger of ignoring what may be the most critical message from his election, especially after these new inflation numbers that we've seen? >> no, i mean, he's picking up right where he left off. and this worked great in his first term. it did improve conditions for our domestic producers. and

when that happens, you actually have more job openings in the organic economy, not the government sector, the private sector. and you see, you know, one of the best ways to combat inflation is to raise wages, real wages, post inflation. so the purchasing power of your take home pay going up is another way to do it. and so this really gets after both sides. ideally you know the people that we're negotiating with go yeah okay. we've kind of had a better deal than you guys have. and okay we'll we'll meet in the middle. we'll work something out. but in the worst case okay, fine. then we see more domestic production. you see more switching costs so that the american producer now has a better chance to to grow their supply and their market share. and that drives up wages and job opportunities here in our own economy. >> but worst case scenario, the expectation is tariffs would get passed on to consumers. you have senator mitch mcconnell from your neighboring state warning in an op ed today that kentuckians can't afford the high cost of trump's tariffs. he

says one estimate suggests that trump's tariffs could cost the average kentuckian up to $1,200 a year. do you worry about that? for folks in ohio? >> what i worry about is people like mitch mcconnell that spent forever saying, no one ever lost an election because they spent too much money. in this massive federal spending, has grown a massive federal government. thank god for doge in the effort to finally lean out our federal government and put more into the private sector. we're looking at a situation where we have to reprivatize our economy and talk about inflation. you've taken way more than that in these terrible trade policies backed by people like mitch mcconnell, have given every advantage to china and disadvantaged america. and donald trump is really one of the first major elected officials to talk about this and be rewarded with elected office and then be in office and actually do what he said he would do. he worked hard on trade policy, and as much as biden talked and complained about the tariffs, they didn't get rid of any of the tariffs.

they kept them in place. but unlike president trump, the biden administration didn't do anything to actually negotiate and improve our condition, including with china. so donald trump's going to pick up right where he left off. and i think it's going to be a better deal for the american consumer. the american worker, and investment in our own economy. >> so you you can guarantee to folks in your state and your district that they're not going to see higher prices, the likes of which mitch mcconnell is sounding an alarm about in kentucky. >> well, i can't guarantee that. but i know that's not the intent, and i believe that the policies have a better chance to work than a disastrous ignore what china is doing and keep trading with them. that hasn't worked. so why wouldn't we try something different? >> um, i do also want to ask you. you are on armed services, as i mentioned. um, do you worry that tariffs, i mean, even ultimately in wall street is banking on them not going through, like i said, but threatening them against u.s. allies? do you worry that could undermine u.s. national security

when the cooperation of those allies is something the u.s. really depends on? >> well, look, i'm the chairman for national security and illicit finance and talk about undermining our security. you look at some of the things that were exposed with usaid. they were running a color revolution with alternative media trying to undermine viktor orban, who's. >> extremely asking you. >> sir, about. >> the tariffs. i'm asking you about the tariffs. can you answer my question about the tariffs on national security? >> they would rather not have the tariffs. they've got a pretty good deal, and they would rather not pay their fair share on nato. but donald trump is rightly putting pressure on them to do really what they already said they would do. >> so okay, i'm talking about tariffs. i just want to be clear, not about nato and the increased payment on that. they have also increased payments. but nonetheless we're talking about tariffs. i do want to note earlier this month you said to notice you went to the u.s. military academy. every military

academy on the planet would say some version of you're more likely to win any conflict if you multiply your allies than if you multiply your enemies. why put tariffs on everybody all at once when we could actually build a coalition to go after china? >> yeah. that's right. and i think the what you see the president doing is setting the conditions to have everyone working in the same direction. our allies, our closest trading partners, mexico and canada, are our two biggest trading partners. >> by putting tariffs on them, you think that helps them work in the same direction? >> yeah. because at the end of the day, how are they going to help us with china when they won't even treat us fairly. so when we work our differences out amongst ourselves. united front to deal with china, because china, when they became part of the world trade organization, they said they would be a market economy. no one treats china like a market because they're not. they're also treated like a developing economy. they're clearly not a developing economy. and they do the same

thing to all of us, not just the united states, but everyone around the world. they use their whole of government, approach their intelligence agencies and everything to steal intellectual property. and then they block market access to their own economy. and this is incredibly true under xi jinping. so the chinese people are fine, but their government, particularly xi jinping, has been a disaster. and we do need this full force of everyone working together to confront china, because they're not living up to the world trade organization obligations. >> congressman warren davidson, thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you. >> dozens of churches and religious groups taking the trump administration to federal court for letting agents make arrests at churches. what we learned from a hearing on the case that just ended here in the last hour. plus the gaza ceasefire and hostage deal, appears to be back on track for now. mediators working to resolve a dispute between hamas and israel that brought the deal to the brink of collapse. and then the potential motivation behind a car attack in germany

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hamas, some of it stemming from israel, according to hamas, not allowing in certain shelters into the gaza strip. we know that israel has said that it has upheld its side of the agreement. but all eyes, of course, will be on this saturday to see if the ceasefire holds up and if hamas releases those hostages. jeremy diamond, cnn, tel aviv. >> our thanks to jeremy for that report. vice president jd vance is in germany today meeting with european leaders as part of a major security conference in munich. that high stakes meeting taking place as investigators search for a motive in a suspected attack this morning. at least 28 people were injured when a car rammed into a crowd of demonstrators. the suspect, believed to be an asylum seeker from afghanistan, is now in custody. cnn's sebastian shukla is in munich with more details. >> i'm here at this crossroad in central munich, where you can see that another attack against the german people have taken place as this white mini cooper

vehicle plowed into a group of some 28 people on a peaceful protest this morning at around 10:30 a.m., you can see the chaos and destruction that was wrought by it. those tin foil blankets left strewn on the floor to deliver that emergency first aid. and even more disturbingly, what appears to be a child's pushchair. the police have told us the perpetrator of this attack was a 24 year old afghan asylum seeker residing here in germany, and questions will now start to abound about how an incident like this was allowed to take place. given the massive security operation that is going on in this city at the moment, with the munich security conference, where we will have heads of state, heads of government coming here to the city to discuss, ironically, international security issues for germany, though this will be another reminder that the election that is coming around the corner will force the issue of immigration to the fore one more time, and something that the far right will look to seize on, and of which german bavarian

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that they were not they were not making this directive based on the evidence in the case or the strength of the case, but because they wanted the mayor to be free and unencumbered, to help make some of the policies that president donald trump has been pushing, including on immigration. so that put the prosecutor here in this office, s.d.n.y. it's known for its independence. it has a long history of independence and at times clashes with main justice. in order to maintain that independence. the big question here was what would sassoon do? would she follow it through with these orders, or would she resign? now we know that she has decided to resign this position. now. in her letter to the a.g., she doesn't mention the adams case, according to sources. but that is clearly the amount of pressure that has been her in on this office all week. i've been talking to former prosecutors, including some senior prosecutors, who said that if she went through with this, it would have been a big black eye on the office and could have resulted in more prosecutors leaving. brianna. >> how unusual, kara, is that a directive to dismiss the charges with doj citing, as you said,

not the merits when it comes to the case, but the need for adams to cooperate with trump's immigration crackdown. >> brianna, this is so unusual to even get that sort of directive from main justice in what had been a fairly public courting campaign between new york city mayor and president donald trump. so that directive was highly surprising. lawyers had not seen anything like that before, and it really put the prosecutors who had brought this case under a lot of pressure. where this goes from here, though, remains unclear whether or not main justice themselves could try to move to dismiss the charges, or if this case will go forward until they can get trump's nominee his pick for the u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, jay clayton, through the senate confirmation process and in place, if he is on board, to dismiss those charges. as it stands right now, adams, who has pleaded not guilty, is set to go to trial in april. >> all right. thank you, boris.

>> president trump just locked in another one of his cabinet picks, the senate, confirming robert f. kennedy jr. as the next secretary of health and human services. rfk, whose nomination was clouded in controversy over his vaccine stance and concerns about putting him in charge of the nation's public health. he was confirmed mostly along party lines, except for one very notable defection from former majority leader mitch mcconnell, the kentucky senator, who is a polio survivor, said kennedy, quote, has a record of trafficking in dangerous conspiracy theories and eroding trust in public health institutions and that he will not condone the relitigation of proven cures. mcconnell has now voted against three of trump's cabinet nominees, more than any other republican senator. let's discuss rfk jr. and more with former health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius. secretary, thank you so much for being with us. i just right off the bat, i want to get your reaction to rfk jr. getting confirmed as the secretary of the agency that you once led.

>> well, i think it's, um, boris unfortunate that more of the senators didn't look carefully into rfk jr.'s record and find some real alarm at his stated policy that there is no safe and effective vaccine. um, mitch mcconnell clearly took that seriously as a polio survivor, and i just hope that whoever he promised along the way that he would change his views on vaccines and not undermine the public confidence in proven science, uh, that he will live up to those promises. all of us hope that he does a great job. we need america to be as healthy as possible, and he is committed to making america healthy again. that's great news. and i think he would have broad bipartisan support in that endeavor. but

the number of conspiracy theories, you know, questioning the origin of hiv aids, looking at, um, vaccines in spite of their proven effectiveness, uh, you know, speculating about covid being a targeted virus over and over again. we're in a very global world. we have diseases traveling over borders. so we need a secretary for the american health system who, uh, shares information is very transparent about what's going on. make sure that he collaborates and cooperates. >> to that point, i wonder what you make of republican senator lisa murkowski today telling manu raju that she plans to make sure that kennedy is held accountable for things like vaccine misinformation. i wonder in your dealings when you were secretary with senators, if if

there was an open line of communication, if any of them tried to persuade you into certain things? i candidly, i wonder what kind of. uh, authority a senator would have over what a secretary says or does. >> well, as i say, boris, it's unfortunate that he's now been given the green light and a big podium. so i am not quite sure how senator murkowski plans to hold him accountable. he is known for making frequent and. erroneous public comments about science, about disease, about, um, his views. uh, so he now has been given the opportunity to serve in this amazing office. and hhs is a huge asset for the united states. it's the public health agency, the gold standard for research. controls the three largest health insurance programs in the country, where

about half of americans get their health insurance. children and family programs, mental health. substance abuse. so drug, um, safety and effectiveness. so he has an enormous role. and, um, while i find it heartening that senator murkowski says she wants to hold him accountable, she is now giving him the green light to speak with the authority of the secretary, the health minister of states, at a very critical time. >> yeah. kathleen sebelius, thank you so much for sharing your perspective. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> in just moments, we're going to take you to the white house, where president trump just announced an executive order to have all federal agencies study reciprocal tariffs on other nations. we're going to dig into exactly what that means in just a few minutes. >> cooked books, corporate fat cats, swindling socialites,

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>> that shiny object over here, aren't we? and he just makes us drive. >> over. >> to it. meanwhile, he's doing something over here. yeah, he's very good at. redirecting right now and specifically with these tariffs. right. what he's talking about. it's going to have a let's assume he were to follow through with it. it's going to have a big play in india of course, in how the united states and india react with trade. >> how do you how do. sorry you were going to respond. >> i was going to say india is trying to export a lot. right. and they import u.s. goods and services. and this is a big deal. this is a big deal to modi, who's come all this way not to walk into a meeting to get tariffs slapped on him. >> i wonder let's actually go ahead and listen in to president trump right now in the oval office. >> military protection because they essentially because. >> and you. >> take a. >> look at what's going on out there. you have. russian ships. you have china ships. you have chinese ships. you have a lot of ships out there. and, you know, people are in danger. this is a different world today. it's a different world. they need our protection. yes.

>> you mentioned elon musk and the efforts that he's undertaken with your authority. you granted him new authority this week. will he secure any new government contracts while he's working on doge? >> no, not not if there's a conflict. if there's no conflict, i guess, what difference does it make? but we won't let him do any of anything having to do with the conflict. >> are you personally checking to make sure there's no conflicts of interest? >> yes, i am. >> i am, he answers to you. >> sure he does. first of all, he wouldn't do it. and second of all, we're not going to let him do anything with his. a conflict of interest. >> mr. president. your negotiations with the eu are you know, there's just discussions ongoing already. how quickly do you expect that you'll hear back from them about any of these. >> other kash patel you? yeah, the eu has been very nasty. it's just been they haven't treated us properly. look, we were great to them on nato. essentially it's similar group of countries. um, when i came in my first term, i raised their fees. i mean, they were not paying. we were paying for, in my opinion, almost all of nato.

and now, you know, i had the bad moment with the press where the press said, well, does this mean you won't protect him? i said, i won't protect him if they're not paying. but because i said that, um, the secretary general, as you know, said it was the greatest thing he's ever seen because the money came pouring in, and but they don't treat us right on trade. they don't treat us right on the military either. i mean, if you look at ukraine, we're in for probably $200 billion more than europe. why are we in for more than europe? we're in for more than europe. i mean, think of it. or nato. i mean, let's just call it that, because canada is in, by the way, canada is just about the lowest payer. also just, you know, they shouldn't be. they are just about the lowest payer in nato in addition to everything else. so canada has really been taken advantage of. and if they had to pay just something, uh, modestly fair, they wouldn't be able to succeed as a country. and that's why that's why i feel

they have to become a state. yes, ma'am. >> thank you, mr. president. >> is it your expectation that partners will offer major concessions and that you actually don't end up applying those tariffs? >> no, i think that a lot of them will stay the same. and whatever they pay, i'll pay. i mean, we'll have we'll have a lot of them stay the same. i think some look i heard as an example, eu lowered their tax on cars down to the exact same amount that they were much higher. they were approximately five times higher. and they lowered them down to the exact tax that we're charging that took place like yesterday or the day before. is that a correct statement? i think so, yeah. >> do you expect any exemptions or waivers? >> i don't expect that. no. this is a simple system. i mean, there wouldn't be any. and in the case of apple, i gave them a waiver, an exemption in my first term because samsung was in south korea and samsung didn't have to pay the tax because it

was a tax on china. and apple makes a lot of their product in china. so i did that because it wouldn't have been fair. but now this applies to everybody across the board. this is a much simpler way of doing it. much better way. >> i'm sorry you had that major call yesterday with president putin of russia. president zelenskyy responded today basically saying any agreements they won't accept unless they're made with ukraine. will ukraine have a seat at that table for those negotiations? >> they would. i mean, they're part of it. we would have ukraine, we'd have russia, and we'll have other people involved, too. a lot of people, a lot of a lot of forks in the a lot of forks in this game. i'll tell you what, this is a very interesting situation. but the ukraine war has to end. the young people are being killed at levels that nobody has seen since world war two, and it's a ridiculous war and it has to end. we had a good talk with president putin. i had a good talk with president zelenskyy. very good talk. and somebody said, oh, i should have called

zelenskyy first. i don't think so. i mean, we have to find out whether or not russia wants to make a deal. i know that zelenskyy wants to make a deal because he told me that. but i now know that russia wants to make a deal. >> did you ask secretary hegseth to walk back his comments yesterday, saying ukraine won't join nato and won't go back to pre 2014 borders because those are bargaining chips you could use? >> no i didn't, somebody told me, but i thought his comments were good yesterday and they're probably good today. they're a little bit softer perhaps. but i thought his comments from yesterday, i thought his comments yesterday were pretty accurate. i don't see any way that, uh, a country in russia's position could allow them just in their position could allow them to join nato. i don't see that happening. and long before president putin, russia was very strong on the fact that i believe that's the reason the war started, because biden went out and said that they could join nato, and he shouldn't have said that. as soon as he said that, i said, you know what? you're going to have a war now. and i was right about that. this

is a war that would have never happened if i were president. >> mr.. president biden's fault, not president putin. i mean, he's. >> the one i think biden is incompetent. and i think when he said that, uh, they could join nato, i thought that was a very stupid thing to say. i thought when he said, well, it depends if it's a minor incursion. in other words, it's okay if russia does a minor incursion. i thought that was a very foolish thing to say. >> when elon musk. >> things got it started. the other thing that got it started was how badly milley and these stupid people are bad generals, how badly they did with afghanistan. i was going to pull out, but we were pulling out with dignity and strength, and we were going to take our equipment with us and everything else. uh, they are i mean, what they're doing is what they did with that. i think putin looked at that mess and he said, wow, this is a great time. i'm going to go in. but what what the americans said, i'm not blaming americans, but i will say what

they said had a big influence on his deciding to go in. yeah. >> when elon musk met with prime minister. modi earlier. >> today. >> did he do so as an. >> american ceo. >> or did he do so as. >> a representative. >> of. >> the u.s. >> government? >> uh, are you talking about me? >> no. elon musk? >> elon i don't know. he they met and i assume he wants to do business in india. but india is a very hard place to do business in because of the tariffs. they they have the highest tariffs just about in the world. and it's a hard place to do business. no, i would imagine he met possibly because you know, he's running a company. he's uh he's doing this as a, as something that he's felt strongly about for a long time because he sees what's happening and he sees how the country is really being hurt badly by all of the fraud, waste and abuse. yeah. >> so how would. >> you know whether he's meeting with the ceo. >> or meeting with a representative of your government? >> uh, well, he's meeting with me in a little while, so i'm going to ask him that question. all right. i'll ask him that question. yeah.