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joining us on this friday. i'm pamela brown in washington, and you're in the cnn newsroom. >> vice president. >> jd vance bursts onto the international stage and slams europe over immigration and free speech, claiming officials are ignoring the will of the voters. he spoke at the munich security conference amid negotiations to end the conflict in ukraine. cnn chief national security correspondent nick paton walsh joins us now. so nick vance is set to meet with ukrainian president zelenskyy this hour. we will get to that in just a moment. but first, tell us more about the vice president's speech and the reaction to it so far. >> yeah. look, this was a very odd moment, frankly, in which i think many had known jd vance was going to take the stage and try and launch the trump administration's kind of culture war and ideological societal beliefs at a european audience. but he essentially ended up giving a speech that seemed to

be the kind of language you would use to criticize russia. but instead he was saying that, indeed, america's european allies, western european countries at times, frankly, the heartbeat of democracy were the ones jailing their opponents, stifling free speech and even casting doubt on electoral process in that entire area, saying that europeans governments are afraid of their own voters, citing an annulled election recently in romania, where russian interference had been found by courts to have altered the vote and ordered a rerun. now, what was startling in all of this was to to hear the suggestion that certain laws in the united kingdom have arrested people for peaceful prayer protests near abortion clinics. that's a warping of the laws in question that have kept political activity away from abortion clinics. abortion, much less of a hot button issue in the uk. and this just a bid to try and allow women to exercise their choice in safety. speaking to a european audience who, frankly, must be wanting really

to know what is the trump administration's peace plan for ukraine, but instead hearing this clearly pre-prepared diatribe against democratic behavior in europe, saying that people need to essentially accept that if the u.s. has survived a decade of greta thunberg, then they will be okay. and if democracy is so fragile, it can't take $100,000 worth of investment in social media to warp elections, then it's in trouble anyway. a bizarre series of claims, a lot of them totally lacking. in fact, the one person you think he might criticize more vladimir putin out of this speech. but all the things you expect his predecessors to have criticized moscow for now, something he's accusing their european allies of doing. utterly bizarre. >> nick paton walsh, thank you so much. joining us now is democratic congressman gerry connolly of virginia. he serves on the foreign affairs committee and is attending the munich security conference. congressman, thanks for taking the time. first off, i'm just wondering if you're hearing any

reaction from foreign leaders, um, about the speech we just heard from the vice president. >> well, the europeans. >> are nothing. >> if not polite and diplomatic, but privately, i think vise president vance didn't burst on the scene. he stumbled onto the scene. it was an embarrassing presentation. maybe one of the most embarrassing moments i can remember at the munich security conference from an american official. he showed condescension and ignorance at the same time. he hasn't got a clue about the democratic process and the political process here in europe. uh, i think it was a major misstep by the trump administration in week four. >> so who do you think the vice president's targeted audience was for that speech? and what was the goal? >> i think it's the steve bannon's and the right wing fringe that seems enamored with right wing political movements

here in europe and in the united states. imagine lecturing europeans about, uh, being afraid of their own electorate when it is trump and elon musk who are firing fbi agents because they dared to do their duty, who are having loyalty tests at the national security council, who are firing tens of thousands of federal employees because they consider them part of the deep state and can't be trusted. you're going to lecture others about political tolerance of free speech. uh, that's a bit much. >> just for context, given all of your experience, um, how unusual is it for a vice president of the united states to stand in front of european leaders and essentially dress them down for their domestic policies? >> i think it's a highly unusual and i think it's also undesirable. it was completely uncalled for. it was based on enormous buckets of ignorance by

the vice president, who, after all, has two whole years of legislative experience before becoming vice president. uh, and i don't think it's going to go down well at all. and i think it it's redolent of hypocrisy and paternalism of the worst sort. and i don't think the europeans are going to take kindly to it, nor should they. >> vice president vance is also warning that the u.s. could hit russia with economic and military tools of leverage, as he calls it, if russian leader vladimir putin doesn't negotiate a peace deal with ukraine in good faith. as we know he's getting ready to meet with zelenskyy right now. what do you think about those comments, and what do you hope comes out of this meeting? >> that was maybe the only bright spot in an otherwise desultory presentation by the vice president. uh, that russia will pay a price if it doesn't seek to engage in negotiations to try to end the war, the bloody war in ukraine. uh, we're

going to be meeting with president zelenskyy later tonight. the u.s. delegation, uh, my understanding is he is meeting right now with the vice president. my hope is those talks will lead to some fruitful, uh, engagement with the ukrainians and more u.s. support publicly, uh, so that the ukrainians know that we still have their back. >> i want to turn to domestic affairs here and ask you about elon musk. you have been pushing for the house oversight committee, in which you serve as ranking member, to subpoena musk to get more transparency about his role in access. that appears to be a losing battle so far. um, what's next for democrats? what will you do to try to hold elon musk and his staffers accountable for the work that they're doing in the name of doge? >> well, that's kind of the ubiquitous question in the media. what can we do? well, i mean, you know, there's the bully pulpit and we're using

that. um, i believe legislatively, sooner or later, elon musk will have to come to congress. i think we will succeed in that effort. and then there's litigation in the courts. um, a lot of what trump and elon musk are doing is unlawful. uh, and violates contracts, violates the constitution, violates statutes that have been on the books for years. and it takes a little while to wind its way through the court system, but we're pretty confident that we're going to get a series of positive rulings by courts that they've gone way too far, and they're going to have to pull back or rescind unlawful orders that affect not only federal employees, but more importantly, maybe, uh, they affect every american voter who benefits from a government service. >> congressman gerry connolly, thank you so much. we have some breaking news just coming in to cnn. russia says it detained an american and russia. i want to bring in cnn's nick paton walsh for more on this. nick.

>> yeah. breaking news here from the russian customs service, who, according to state media, are saying a 28 year old u.s. citizen was arrested at vnukovo airport in moscow for possession of a cannabis laced marmalade. this is on february the 7th. this arrest occurred of a 28 year old american who had these cannabinoids found in his luggage. it seems that it was some sort of medicinal marmalade style candies, which a sniffer dog found in a ziploc bag in his luggage. now, the same service goes on to suggest that a criminal case has been opened, and potentially the penalties are 5 to 10 years in prison or just over $10,000 fine. i should point out the timing of this. this was literally in the days ahead of marc fogel, another american who the state department classified as being wrongfully detained while he was on the edge of being released to steve witkoff a trump adviser and u.s. billionaire who turned up in moscow in one of his own

jets to take fogel home. fogel, also to, was detained for possession of a sort of cannabinoid style medical medicament that he said he had for spinal pain. unclear quite what this u.s. citizen, much younger fogel was 61. what this 28 year old had the medication for? this says this report that it was indeed medicinal in its intentions. clearly an issue here of americans bringing into russia what they think they're allowed to because they've been prescribed it, potentially in the united states. but the timing of this is key, because the court proceedings that led it seems to detention were coming to a fore on the monday ahead of the tuesday release of fogel. so a clear insight here as to how americans are still being detained, it seems, on similar reasons as to fogel's detention, just as that process of release was occurring. so more details i'm sure will emerge around this. but clearly to potentially down the line, another instance in which another american citizen is held

by russia and could potentially be subject to negotiations further down the line to secure their release. very early stages, though, in this legal proceedings and this arrest just coming to light. >> we were just looking at a picture of mark fogel, who, as you pointed out, was just released. the timing of this cannot be ignored. thank you so much, nick paton walsh, for you on this. so russia arrests one american. basically, it seems like in exchange for the release of another. i mean, that's what this appears like. and it also is against the broader backdrop of negotiations going on in the war in ukraine. what do you make of this? >> well, pamela, what they're doing is the russians are playing hardball at this point. they're giving a carrot in the sense of releasing marc fogel. now they're doing a stick approach where they're pulling in somebody else, and there potentially are other people that may be in detention as well at this point. so the idea here that the russians have is we'll give you a little bit here, make you feel the u.s. feel like we're, in essence, winning on the diplomatic front, and then

they'll pull things back. so this really to me, this portends that the negotiations surrounding ukraine are going to be incredibly difficult. they are not going to be, uh, easy to conduct just because of the all the different things that, you know, naturally are going to be part of a negotiation of that type between countries like ukraine and russia, the european union and the united states. now that you have a u.s. citizen who has been detained by the russian customs service, that then brings out all the other factors, and they're going to use this as leverage against us. that is the goal of the russians are going to make this extremely hard. and i think it's going to take a while to not only get that person released, but also that's very unfortunate. but also, it's going to take a while to achieve any other goals, any other foreign policy goals that the u.s. administration may have with russia. >> all right. colonel cedric leighton, nick paton walsh, thank you so much. we'll be

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and particularly fraud. they really emphasize that. but questions are growing about whether doge is tackling a real problem with fraud or just targeting federal programs that the trump administration doesn't like. white house press secretary karoline leavitt was asked about this earlier this week. >> are all those things. >> you just mentioned. >> fraud, or are they waste, or are they just contrary to the president's policies? >> i would argue that all. >> of these things are fraudulent, they are wasteful, and they are an abuse of the american taxpayers dollar. this is not what the government should be spending money on. it's it's contrary to the president's priorities and agenda. and again, we can continue to provide you the receipts for all of the fraud, waste and abuse. >> jessica litman from george washington law school joins us now. um, i guess i should call you professor litman. you were to me when i was at gw. i want to talk about this and first start by playing sound from the beginning of trump and musk's oval office presser tuesday

night. >> and some of the things that we found, which are shocking. billions and billions of dollars in waste, fraud and abuse. and i think it's very important. and that's one of the reasons i got elected. i said, we're going to do that. nobody had any idea it was that bad, that sick and that corrupt. >> and this sort of language is often repeated by elon musk on his x platform. you can see a few of the posts here. we can put them up. these are just from the last few days. hopefully we have those right here. so just to start off this conversation, what is the legal definition of fraud and why does it matter that musk and trump may be mischaracterizing what doge is finding? >> so it depends on. >> the statute. >> and there's a lot to unpack here. >> the united states. >> has a variety of different statutes that it can use to go after actual fraud or. even actual corruption. >> these are. >> crimes. >> so many. >> times these.

>> require some specific. >> intent to defraud. >> and again, the united. >> states has a. long history of prosecuting, successfully prosecuting actual fraud and corruption. it also. >> has statutes. >> to recover. >> significant civil penalties and damages. >> from things that are fraudulent, like or improper payments. some of these. >> statutes, including. >> the civil false. claims act, go back to the civil war. >> when. >> there was fraud in. >> the union army. so there have been centuries of basically prosecuting and recovering damages, sometimes even in the. >> billions of dollars. >> every single year. from these. >> types of instances. >> so when we're talking about. >> fraud and. >> corruption, we're talking about a very narrow category of things compared to what's been identified. >> so far. >> and what has been identified so far. i know you've been looking through what doge has been put, has been putting out. have you seen fraud so far? what do you see? >> so far i. >> haven't seen any. >> public evidence of something. >> that we. >> would describe as fraudulent or criminally fraudulent. >> or corrupt. it appears. to be

most likely things that they just don't like. and that's well within the authority of any new administration to come in and simply say we have different spending priorities. it happens all the time, but it doesn't make it fraud and it doesn't make it corruption. >> and just to follow up on my initial question, why is it important to differentiate that? i mean, as you heard karoline leavitt kind of say, look, this is fraud, this is wasteful. this is not reflective of the president's priorities. in your view, why is it important to be precise on wasteful spending? what is viewed as that versus fraud? >> well, words matter. and by consistently saying that everything that they're finding is fraudulent or corrupt, it gives the impression to the american people that their government is untrustworthy, that there's so much fraud being committed, and nobody's doing anything to stop it. and that leads to instability. it leads to people to mistrust their government. it's important to speak about these things carefully. there have been, again, centuries of experience within the united states government of rooting out fraud,

waste and abuse and successfully prosecuting it. so it appears to some people looking at this from the outside, that the entire thing is fraudulent. the entire running of the government is corrupt, and that's just simply not the case. we have incredible people that do great work for the government every single day, rooting this out and prosecuting it. >> some of them have been let go, right, like inspector general and ethics watchdogs. >> that's true. one of the key ways that we actually discover actual fraud and corruption is through oversight. tools like inspectors general or through encouraging people to come forward with information like whistleblowers and protecting them. and the head of the office of special counsel has just been fired as well as i think we're up to 18 or 19 inspectors general. so when you're eliminating some of the individuals that are charged with doing this, it makes it harder to actually find real fraud. >> and just to be clear, just because doge hasn't put it out doesn't mean fraud doesn't exist or corruption. i remember the first day of your class, you said corruption is never ending. >> yeah, sure. any time you have any entity, whether it's a company or it's a government

spending, you know, trillions of dollars, there's always going to be people out there to take advantage of it. the best you can do is try to prevent as much as possible, detect it, mitigate it. and the u.s. government does a pretty good job of doing that. >> the washington post did a tally. and what doge says it has saved so far nearly 45 billion. does it match up with the contracts they put out publicly so far? how how would you compare doj's transparency with other government agencies? >> so we have a lot of websites dedicated in the government to providing transparency to spending. one big one i encourage people to visit is usa spending.gov. and it's incredibly transparent. it's a part of the u.s. government infrastructure, and anyone with internet access can access it. that's just one of the websites. currently. it appears that the transparency that doge is describing comes primarily from the social media platform, and usually it's about a sentence regarding something that they've discovered without any kind of backup information to verify some of the accuracy of what they're claiming. so

it's it's kind of hard to tell exactly what they're looking at, what they perceive or say is fraud and what's actually being recovered. >> really quickly. elon musk says that he will self-police essentially, even though he has billions of dollars worth of contracts in front of the government. what do you think about that, particularly in light of conflict of interest laws? >> so the u.s. government has multiple tools that it can use to deal with potential conflicts of interest, ranging from criminal conflicts of interest statutes to ethics laws to even conflicts that could arise in terms of the organization. his own companies could have the conflict of interest, you know, as a special government employee, many of them are required to make financial disclosures. he is unpaid, so he doesn't have to. generally, conflicts of interest are vetted through an agency. government ethics official, where they go through and discuss whether or not some of the things that an individual is working on may create that kind of conflict of interest, or they are responsible for identifying some of these things. but it is a

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pamela, what is clear through the investigation was that as police were learning more about what was going on, trinity shockley had displayed this real obsession with the shooter from the parkland shooting, who killed 17 people, wounded 17 others on valentine's day seven years ago. so police knowing that date acting very quickly to investigate her to execute a search warrant at the home. pamela. police say again that this was really the result of a tipster, uh, being aware and making sure that they were reaching out to police in time. here's more from the mooresville police chief. >> nothing ever happens in mooresville. it's a small town, but. to think. >> that somebody. >> was plotting to hurt a lot of individuals, kids, i mean, future leaders of this country or whoever is pretty disturbing. the pictures in her room were they looked like family photographs, like you would put

of your kids, but they were all of people that had committed mass shootings. >> pamela trinity is in custody without bond. the big takeaway here is that see something? say something. police will act quickly. and a crisis was averted in this case. pamela. tragedy narrowly avoided. back to you. >> yeah. i mean, because after every school shooting, we always learn members of the community knew about it and they didn't say anything. and this case, thank goodness someone did. and now it appears the school shooting was stopped. whitney wild, thank you so much. well, still ahead, what are americans saying as president trump and elon musk try to remake the government? that's a big question. what are people across the country saying about this? we're going to ask two radio hosts what listeners and their communities are telling them. it's part of our new series called your voice. we're back in a moment. >> when you're the official vehicles. >> of winter, you can embrace everything the cold has to offer, leave fresh tracks with the safe and secure jeep grand

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both sides of the. >> aisle, we're a talk show at the point that doesn't take and use a call screener. and so we take the calls as they come in from the left, from the right, and anywhere in between. and what's amazing is just if you listen to both sides, the callers who are conservatives are going crazy. they're loving what's going on. absolutely loving it. callers on the left side, the liberals are mortified at what's going on, and i floated a theory about it, pamela, that i thought was just incredible. and i think what it is, you've got a situation where, i mean, i'm 56 years old. i don't think we've ever seen anyone come in and try to do what they're trying to do. and even if you love it or you hate it, i think it's going to be a win for all americans at the end. i just don't think all americans realize that just because there's such a bias against trump from the left, that they're not going to even give him a chance to try and do it. but the fact is, our callers on the right love it. callers on the left don't, but they're going crazy about it. >> and do they bring up the fact the callers on the right do you're saying they love it? do they ever bring up that musk is

unelected or he's not really showing us exactly what he's doing? do they even care? are they just focused on outcome? >> i think ultimately it's outcomes, pamela. but i think certainly the process matters and i've taken the standpoint that, look, nothing is off limits. everything, for example, that elon musk has his hands on, whether it's space x or anything else should be looked at. also. i'm not one of those talk show hosts who's out there firing off conspiracy theories or saying that the government is totally corrupt or anything like that. that's just not what i'm trying to say. all i'm trying to say is that we have to do better in our lifetime. as i said, i'm 56 years old. i've never seen anyone try to to to unmask what we're trying to unmask and just say we can do better. and that's what i think elon musk is trying to do. we can do a lot better. and that's i don't think that's such a bad ambition. >> so, rishi, what are you hearing from your callers about doge? um, and as part of that, more overall, you know, the people who are losing their jobs as a result of the work of doge.

>> yeah. my callers are not feeling doge elon musk or elon musk. it's okay. they see this as an existential threat to the existence of black citizenship in this country. the reality is that there isn't a chance, there isn't transparency. we have a bunch of young guys going in there who have no respect for the humanity of black people, or people who are not straight white men. and that's something that is very concerning to my callers. they're not looking at this as a transactional or haphazard cuts that are being made. they're looking at this as an assault on how black people, in particular through federal, federal government workforce, have been able to make progress in this country and how civil rights have been assaulted. so this is not something that they're looking at with any kind of silver lining. and as a matter of fact, a lot of people are having an aha! i told you so moment at how disastrous they think that this stuff is going to end up being for everybody. >> so it sounds like you've heard some of that concern, kevin, because you said you all

don't screen callers. you get people from all all different political spectrums. um, i'm just curious, are your listeners who are really excited about what doge is doing? are they worried at all that these federal cuts to staff and programs could trickle down to them and impact their everyday life? >> i think if you look at it, pamela, what you've got is you've got a lot happening, a lot being thrown against the wall very quickly. and i'm even one as a conservative who will acknowledge we got to do this piece by piece, but it is a breakneck speed that's going on. i don't agree that it's fair that we're sitting here, and immediately your first answer is to go to the race card and say it's an assault on, black. >> a. >> minority or anything like that. now, granted, you know, who am i to sit here and say that, you know, i'm a 56 year old fat white guy. but the fact of the matter is, i don't believe that there's any intent to hurt any one specific party or any specific one, uh, race or religion or anything like that. it's just you've never seen this before. it's time for

america to start saving america some money. >> well. >> that's why we need diversity, equity, inclusion, kevin, and not just, uh, older white gentleman deciding what perspectives have value and who can't recognize the experiences. because this is not. yes. >> i just want to make sure we're reflecting what the listeners and the callers are saying. so i just want to make sure it's through that. it's through that lens. go ahead. >> yes. absolutely. absolutely. my my callers and i mean, my my station is urban view. so it is the black talk radio show. there's a diverse listenership, but there is also a keen awareness. long before doge, long before trump of what happens to black people in this community when certain people are black. the black comedian when certain people are in power. so when my listeners are reflecting, is a need to try to navigate through these waters. i've even had people call in and request that we do a show about survivalists, about, you know, what to do, what kind of documents they need to assemble, all kinds of things. so there is a lot of fear. there's also a

lot of defiance. so, kevin, there's no victim card here. there's no race card. there's just a recognition that we have an administration that is completely hostile to what they want to characterize as di, which my listeners know is code for black. >> so and again, i understand where you're coming from and going from what my callers are saying. and pamela, uh, i would i would argue that immensely because again, dei is what it is. obviously, that's a big topic and a separate topic than doge necessarily, although you can bunch them together. but the fact is, if you're looking at at what our callers are saying in columbia, south carolina, it's enough is enough of picking people based on on filling a quota, checking this box, checking that box. just want the right people doing the right job based on merit. and my callers are adamant about why can't we try that? we haven't tried that in so long. and again, back to the cutting of the dollars. there's every single program should be looked at. i'm a i'm a guy who's very strong on national defense. i'm a guy who's very strong on

fiscal responsibility. and so are our listeners. nobody in america has seen in our lifetimes any of our the three of us, our lifetimes. somebody try to actually say, why are we spending money here? why are we spending there? it just hasn't been done to this extent. and it's happening so much in the first three weeks of this administration that i think it's just there is a bit of a whiplash effect. >> it's interesting, just the different perspectives. right. and again, that's why we wanted to do this conversation is kind of get out of the bubbles we're all in and hear what different swaths of americans are thinking. um, you know, we're talking a lot about cuts, but let's talk about prices at the grocery store and elsewhere that, you know, president trump ran on lowering the prices day one. that hasn't happened. january's inflation report came out this week, and it showed inflation at 3% in january. eggs up more than 15% from last month. i'll go to both of you on this, starting with you. what are your callers saying about food prices going up?

>> well, my callers did not expect food prices to go down under donald trump because they understood his policies weren't about really lowering those prices. so i think that they're trying to say my callers mostly have the attitude of, okay, what has he done to to lower prices? he's done all these things. on the cultural warfare side, but they want to know what's going to be the breaking point for those who support trump. and i do have some callers who do support trump, and they seem to be completely dismissive of the fact that egg prices are not going down, grocery prices aren't going down. so i don't think it's as much of an animating issue for my callers. as much as it is to say you guys weren't really concerned about egg prices, were you? >> what? >> let's be let's be realistic and let's be fair about something here, okay? first of all, when you talk about the inflation report and you talk about january, president trump was president for one third of that month. obviously, he took over on the $20. >> but do your callers see it as a biden problem? i guess that's the question then for your do they see it as, oh, this isn't trump, this is biden. >> see it that way? sure,

pamela. i mean, they see it as a biden problem because this is something where you've got someone that was in office for four years, although he really wasn't president for most of those four years, because no one knows who was running the country. >> he was. president is. but go ahead. >> well, he was president. no, i'm not a denier of that. don't i'm not going there. i'm saying he was the president of the united states, but he wasn't cognitively there in the last couple of years in my opinion. >> well, trump said on day one he would lower egg prices. and my callers want to know that hasn't happened. we're on day almost 30 and we still haven't gotten. >> but let's let's. >> be fair. >> do your callers care, kevin? do they care about the prices? are they bringing that up or are they saying about it. >> sure. we all care. i mean, i want to see egg prices and everything come down, but i don't think donald trump for as as powerful as the president of the united states is, whether it's donald trump, joe biden or barack obama, i don't think that they can control bird flu. i don't think they can control supply and demand to the extent that maybe they like to think they can. so i think it's going to take some time before we see that that's just something that i think the left has pounced on,

because it's right there and there's just you can't create more eggs, you can't create more, uh, demand or more supply for the demand right now, i get it, people are frustrated. but let's not kid ourselves. it's been three weeks. you can't expect. and yes, you're fair. if you want to say, i'll do this the very first day i get into office. you're right. donald trump is great when it comes to certain rhetoric. i'm not. i'm not carrying his water. i want to see the prices come down. and if he doesn't succeed in doing that team. listen, i'm going to be the first one out there criticizing him. >> all right? kevin cohen, really interesting to hear those different perspectives. thank you both so much. >> we'll be right back. thank you for having us. >> thank you.

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danny, how are the celebrations going? >> oh, pamela, it's a party on the parkway out here. you know, they say it's always sunny in philadelphia. it especially is today because we are super bowl champions. thousands of people out here celebrating. we got a family right here. how are you guys doing? can i get a go? birds here. >> go. >> now, jack, i understand today is your birthday, right? what are you the most excited about seeing in the parade today? >> oh, probably seeing all the players talk and say, like, speeches and stuff. that's going to be really cool. >> remind me your name again. ellie. ellie. who's your favorite player on the eagles? jalen hurts. jalen the mvp. are you excited to see him today? yes. and your mom here. is that right. how are you feeling about bringing the whole family out today? >> this is such a cool. core memory making experience. i grew up in the city of philadelphia. i grew up watching the birds my whole life. and in 47 years, we've only seen it twice. it's so fun to be here with them and to share this with them.

>> well, they'll never forget it either. that's the biggest thing. how are you feeling today? >> well. >> today is my birthday too. >> happy birthday. >> a super bowl parade in philadelphia for my birthday. he was in kindergarten. >> last time we won. >> he was a little too small for the parade, but we're excited to be here today. >> yeah, you'll remember it now. fantastic. go, birds. congratulations to you. thank you all for being a part of this. this is this is philadelphia. today. we're at the base here of the art museum steps. and you can just tell the celebration is just everywhere. we have seen people throwing beers at other people to catch and drink them. we actually see a roasted pig that has a 15 carved into it for patrick mahomes, patty the pig. they've been playing the super bowl on the jumbotrons up here for everyone to watch. people have been gathering here for hours just to get a glimpse of their heroes. the 2024 eagles. i'll tell you, i am so lucky to be out here to celebrate along because this you know, this philadelphia at its best, having a good time, being ridiculous and having a party. pamela, that's.

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