their injuries at this point unknown. as you look at video captured from the ground moments after the incident took place, you see in the distance what appears to be the wing of this aircraft. clearly, firefighters scrambling to put out flames and emergency crews wrangling passengers, getting them safely out of the plane. a lot to investigate, though, as far as what may have gone wrong here. >> that's right. they certainly were dealing with some wind and weather conditions. we can see that a lot of snow, a lot of blowing snow winds, as pete had reported, at 27 knots, gusting up to 45. that is not nothing when you're talking about a crosswind. but again, 80 people on that plane, crew and passengers, they got out alive. up to eight of them injured were learning from the faa. we'll continue to follow this here on cnn. stay with us. >> this is cnn breaking news.

>> welcome to a special edition of. >> the lead. i'm phil mattingly. >> in for jake tapper. and we start with the breaking news and a terrifying scene. a delta flight. you can see it right there in toronto flipped upside down. the plane was coming in from minneapolis. this is at canada's toronto pearson airport, just remarkable images. not even a month after the deadly airline disaster just outside dc, when a u.s. military helicopter collided with an american airlines flight, killing all 67 people involved. in toronto, a much different situation as we watch and you can see them right there, people actually walking off the plane. i want to play a video from a passenger just moments after getting off this plane. >> in toronto. we just landed our plane crash. it's upside down. fire departments on site. mount tai down. everybody. most

people appear to be okay. we're all getting off. some smoke going on. >> now, the toronto airport says all passengers and crew are accounted for. and we are learning just now that up to eight people are injured. i want to get straight to cnn's aviation correspondent, pete muntean. pete, the pictures are almost indescribable. what more do we know about what happened here? >> absolutely incredible, phil, that 19 days ago we were talking about the death of 67 people in a midair collision over washington, d.c.? this story very much a happy ending by comparison, this flight, delta flight 4819, operated by regional carrier for delta endeavor, was coming in to land about an hour and a half ago. eastern standard time toronto pearson international airport, runway two three. that's to the southwest. this plane, a crj 900. you may have been on one of these regional flights. it's a smaller flight, one by two seating in the very front there

at the first class cabin, two by two seating. so two seats in aisle and two seats in the back. the passengers apparently found themselves strapped into their seat belts. the ceiling had now become the floor of this plane. upside down. you can see the fuselage there and the live shot from ctv in toronto. we are now looking at the right side of the aircraft. that's the right engine there you can see some singeing there by the tail. also some singeing there at the center part of the fuselage where the wing used to be, something that investigators will want to look for and they will be looking for impact scars and ground scars from where the wing apparently came off. it's not apparent to me in these images where potentially that impact could have occurred, or how this airplane ended up off the runway upside down. the preliminary data from the flight tracking site flightradar24, ads-b exchange flightaware, shows a relatively good approach, a relatively stable approach here in the toronto

pearson international airport, but a pretty stiff crosswind. the wind at the time. this is the weather report 27, gusting 35 knots out of the west. that's not exactly easy. these are not conditions where you want to go out with a student pilot. you better be a pro and you better make it two of them in the cockpit of a commercial airliner operated in the u.s. and beyond, blowing snow at the time. the conditions are pretty cold, 18°f. we know from the faa here in the united states. and remember, this was a flight operated from msp in minneapolis. so the faa does have a hand to play in this that 80 people were on board this flight. the delta seating configuration of a crj 900 is between 70 to 76. so it sounds to me like this was a full flight in the passenger cabin, along with four crew. we will wait for confirmation from that for that. the big thing now is

the incredible response here by the crash fire rescue crews at the airport and the flight crew on board and getting these people out. you can see them streaming out of the mid-cabin exit there over what was the right wing and the r1 door there that you would almost typically board in on a flight through a jetway. they were streaming out there onto the what looks like to be a pretty snowy and icy runway, and that also complicates conditions for pilots as well. i can tell you, from landing on snow and ice, it's not particularly easy, especially when there's a crosswind the airplane wants to weathervane into the wind makes things very difficult. so now investigators have their work cut out for them, no doubt. and we're waiting to hear from the canadian transportation safety board. they will lead this investigation. we will see if the national transportation safety board here in the u.s. will also aid in that investigation, because it's a u.s. registered airplane. eight injured, we know according to preliminary statements. but even that is very good considering the bad stretch. commercial air travel has had recently with the

crash of american 5342 and a u.s. army blackhawk helicopter over the potomac river. really? an incredible outcome here that all of these passengers are accounted for. according to toronto pearson airport. >> pete, if you could stick with me for a second. if we could put the video back up, the passengers coming out of the emergency exits. look, there's no playbook that i've seen in terms of evacuating an upside down flight. can you paint the picture, pete, in terms of what's happening in this moment, once the plane settles on its top, essentially, and you have a response team, what's the process here? >> the biggest thing is to get the fire out. and and i can tell you from my experience with airplane incidents at close range, fire is the worst possible outcome. it's not a ten and an 11. and so that can really change things very quickly. and you can see the crews there with their foam truck. uh, crash fire rescue teams at airports use special

fire retardant foam to essentially suffocate the air and get a very hot fire that burns not only on the liquid of the fuel, but the flames, the sorry, the fumes of the fuel, and put that out very quickly. so that's step one. the other thing is get everybody out as quick as you can. this is something that the faa has studied over and over again to try and make it so that people can get out quickly. of course, not everybody is able bodied. they have to get out. if you have a cane or a wheelchair, what have you that makes things more complicated. but the big thing here, and i want you to imagine what it's like to be in a commercial flight that was apparently on a relatively stable approach, maybe a bit of turbulence there because of the wind. uh, and then apparently touching down. you're now dark in a cabin upside down, hanging by your seatbelt. and oftentimes in incidents like this, injuries can occur, not necessarily because of the impact. and this happened relatively slow, at least according to the last breadcrumbs on the radar track going at about 120 knots, 130 knots. but the injuries can

occur when you unbuckle your seatbelt and you're sitting, what was the floor now? the roof. and then gravity takes over and you're on the top of the airplane. now the floor. so that can really cause a lot of damage to the human body, the back and the neck and the spine. that is really pretty incredible that the amount of injuries we're talking about, 10% of people here on board sustained some kind of injury. we don't know the the severity of those injuries just yet, but the fact that everyone was able to get out so quickly is not only a testament to the passengers for following the rules and the instructions, but the testament, uh, a testament to the flight attendants and the flight crew, who oftentimes they are, you know, not just there to serve drinks, they are there for your safety, and they are there to make sure that you get out with your life, leave your stuff behind and get out. anything is more valuable than nothing is more valuable than your life. you can always get another cell phone. you can always get another backpack. this is a pretty good response, all told, and pretty incredible that

everyone is okay. >> all right pete muntean, we know you're working your sources to learn more. we'll come back to you. stay with us. i do now want to bring in mary schiavo, former inspector general of the u.s. department of transportation. mary, i just want to step back for a moment because, again, seeing a plane on its not right side, not wheels. it's on the top. it's on the ceiling or the roof here. how does this happen? explain kind of the mechanics of something like this. >> well, if happen in a couple of ways and accidents that i've worked on in the past, one, it hits something upon landing and then did not do a stabilized landing. it lost its gear. this i'm talking about asiana in california, probably about ten or so years ago. and then that, uh, you know, came in, tipped one wing and it cartwheeled, um, you know, another one where if you came in and you exited the runway at toronto, pearson, while it's nice, long and flat, there are berms. there is a highway, there are other there's other equipment. and this does appear to have exited

the runway. and in that case, if you lost your landing gear, and most particularly if you had a hefty. crosswind. now on the rj 900, the crosswind limits are 27 to 35 knots, depending upon the load. and as pete muntean mentioned earlier, um, this the the the gusts were exceeding that. and so that could also play a big, a big effect. i mean, if you're coming in and you have a big enough, uh, crosswind and it exceeds your aircraft limit, it could cause an upset event. but i think a combination of if you had a bad crosswind, you left the runway and then you hit something. that's how usually these upside down events occur. um, then there you are. you're upside down. even a gust could cause you to catch one wingtip. if you catch one wing over the other, you can cartwheel. um, that happened to me. almost happened to me. i managed to get it back down very early on in flight training, and i was a little, you know, afraid of crosswinds

ever since. so, um, those combinations could do it. and i think the weather is going to play an important factor here. when they do the investigation. >> mary, to follow up on something that i think pete keyed on the singeing that we see, obviously, we've seen the fire response, which was rapid. all 80 people aboard the plane were able to evacuate. what does that tell you in terms of where the singeing is, the fact it exists at all? >> right. and it appears to be near the end. and, you know, when those engines ingest anything, be it a bird, be it a flock of engines, i mean, you can have an engine failure or an uncontained engine failure. you can have singeing, you can have burning and it doesn't, you know, it does appear that obviously it left the runway. um, even ingestion of something into the engines could cause, you know, fire, et cetera.. and it's very fortunate, you know, an accident like this, what we always see is, you know, quite a, you know, an explosion and fire and the fact that they didn't have to fight that. but

i will say toronto pearson had that on an air france crash about, oh, maybe, uh, 15, 20 years ago. and they had a massive fire, but they managed to get it out at this airport. i mean, they have good response at this airport. and in that crash, they even brought in equipment from the road. there's a road, a big freeway at one end, the runways. and so here they didn't have to do that. but the singeing of the engine doesn't surprise me since obviously they had quite an upset event and the engines would have ingested something and caught fire. so i do think that leaving the runway, uh, a crosswind, bad weather and, you know, anything could cause that wind wing tip to, you know, get out of, you know, to tip the plane tip and hit a wing. you can go over. it's, uh, it's just it's such a such a miracle, such a great fortune event that, you know, eight injuries. it's amazing. it's really amazing. that's all there is, mary.

>> the threshold for crosswinds, for, uh, a plane like this, uh, is below what we knew gusts were hitting at. you mentioned this. pete mentioned it as well. what? what is the kind of protocol there for a plane, if that's the reality on the ground? to not land, what are they supposed to do here? >> well, yes, that's one of the things. if, for example, if you if you have a weather report that the weather conditions have exceeded the limits of your plane and every plane is different, you know, you have the crosswind limitations based on your aircraft. i mean, you know, small planes obviously have a lot less tolerance. great big planes have a have a larger crosswind tolerance. but for this plane, it's somewhere between i'm doing this off the top of my head. i used to know this exactly. somewhere between 27 to 35 knots. and they reported it was greater than that. now, if it happened that they were already, you know, just about to land and they were

past the go around point as you come in and do your step downs to land, there's a point at which you have to make your decision whether to go around, you know, missed approach or go ahead and proceed to land. and if they were past what's called the missed approach, then they had to land. and, um, that's just the way it works. so there is a decision point at which you, you have to land no matter what. and that is, you know, and every, every airport has this missed approach designation. every airport is set up for it. it's designated for every airport. and if that's where they were when they got these bad crosswinds, they had no choice. >> mary schiavo. always appreciate your time and perspective. thanks so much. the breaking news in toronto. you're looking at the pictures right now, a delta airlines flight flipped upside down as it came in for landing. at least eight people are injured. what more? we're learning about the conditions at the airport before this crash. much more next.

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the plane being completely upside down. there are so many questions about how this could have happened. joining me now is cnn's paula newton. paula, i believe you were just at this airport shortly before the incident. what were the conditions like when you were there? >> yes, indeed i was, phil. so i must have taken off from that airport, you know, a little bit over an hour for this plane had its hard landing. i will say i've been through that airport maybe over a thousand times in my life, and i have never seen that much snow in the last week. they have had probably over a foot of snow there at toronto pearson. the winds were incredibly ferocious, especially when it started gusting and you could see a lot of snow blowing around on top of that. when it did hit the ground, you could tell it was incredibly icy. the temperatures were also frigid. having said that, phil, i mean, again, i don't have any aviation expertise. i'm just telling you, the conditions that i saw on the ground were unlike any i have ever seen in toronto. perhaps we'll know that that had nothing to do with this incident. but as you see the pictures of the airplane there

and the extraordinary lengths it took to get those people out of that airplane, you can see on the tarmac itself, you can see how much snow is actually there. i have no idea if that's part of the official runway or not, but i can tell you the runway i was on was also snow covered to a degree that i have not seen before. now. they were trying to really get the airport cleaned up and get it back to normal after there had been a lot of delays and cancellations in the last 36 hours. but phil, i can tell you i have been in the background here and really gone through the crews that deal with operations at toronto pearson. they are second to none. they train for this and they were there on the scene very quickly, as we know, from all of our reports, still extraordinary video. but again, as i said, i remarked on the conditions when i arrived to the other, i had connected on to another airplane and i said to the crew, wow, it's windy here. there's a lot of snow. so this obviously added to some of the adversity. as we can see from the pictures there

on the runway. >> paula newton, we know you're also checking with your sources with the canadian government. we'll check back with you soon. i do want to bring in cnn meteorologist chad myers. chad, we've been talking about the weather and the conditions on the ground there. you can see the significant snow on the ground in the pictures we're showing right now. talk more about the weather conditions before this flight actually came in on the ground. >> well, it. >> was 18 degrees. >> on the ground. >> wind was blowing. >> visibility was. >> good in the air. but you have to look at that snow that's blowing across the runway. you can see it when in the pictures here. just kind of drifting across. so reducing the visibility of the ground itself but not visibility in the air. that actually comes with the weather report. so here's the deal. the wind was blowing right on the right front corner of this airplane. kind of like a passenger car. it would be on the passenger's right front fender. so the plane has to turn itself in. it's called yaw. we turn the plane into the wind, and it's actually not even

flying with parallel to the runway itself. the wheels are pointing to the right because the nose is pointing to the right. when this gets really extreme, the passengers on the left side of the plane can see the runway coming. you want the pilot to be straight down the runway, and we can't do that because we don't have runways in all different directions. you only get what you get. and this was runway two, three, 230 degrees. the wind was coming from 270 270 degrees. so about a 40 to 45 degree angle on that right front corner, causing the plane to fly into the wind. and the big question, the big key to this is that even though the landing gear, the rear gear is not going down the runway parallel at the time of landing, the pilot has to quickly turn that plane to get it to go straight down the runway. and that's always the trickiest spot. there you go, 39mph with gusts there. so that doesn't really exceed it, but it's right at the limit. this was right at the limit of a safe

landing. flying in wind is not a problem if you are flying directly into it and you're landing into that 39mph, that just means you can land slower, ground speed slower. but when you have it on the corner, when you have it blowing across the fuselage itself and across the wings, everything gets tricky. because of that 45 or because of that crosswind situation. >> so chad myers, very, very helpful breakdown as we try and piece together what exactly happened here. thanks so much. i want to turn now to something cnn has just obtained, the air traffic control transmissions. speaking about the delta flight that just crashed at the toronto airport. let's take a listen. >> to. that just for my essay. where's the crash? it's on runway two three. right. the threshold right at the intersection there. two, three and 15 left. okay, we got it in sight. can you tell us what type aircraft it was? uh, yeah, it was an rj nine. roger. little on the threshold of 50. left five

flight one medevac. affirm. yeah. uh, 15. left. affirm for we can do that. we're able to. you have to go to the fbo. we're just trying to figure that out. this is kind of new ground for us. that's why one medevac. roger, juliet and kilo in this section, you can land there win two seven, zero 24, gusting 33. medevac. thank. life one medevac. just so you are. there's people outside walking around the aircraft there. yeah, we've got it. the aircraft is upside down and burning. chris wright 270 23, gusting 33. that's our life. flight one. uh, yeah. just air transat is pushing, uh, pushing back there or sorry, is it being towed forward? so we're going to go past and, um, i'm not sure where they want us position, but we'll let them go past and we'll try to get in. okay. let's medevac. they're not coming out onto juliet, so i think they're holding their they're going to push back. so your discretion there, julian. kilo. all right. roger. kilo. if

they could push back, uh, we're just discussing whether we can go to that site or not. it's sort of out of our purview for for the initial. okay. no problem. just let me know. we'll do. and they are working on backing up now. thank you. >> let's go back now to cnn's pete muntean. pete, it's always remarkable to listen to audio like this in the wake of a crash. what stands out to you? what what did you hear that helps you kind of piece this together? >> let's contextualize this a little bit. this is an exchange between the tower there at toronto pearson international airport and a medevac flight. the call sign, i think, was life flight one. and they're discussing where to go flying the helicopter, which can hover or move forwards backwards at a very slow speed to try and respond to this crash. the crash response, we can tell from the early images was very good. still unclear to me why this helicopter may have been nearby. i don't know if it was based at the airport, if it was already at the airport for some particular reason, maybe they were getting fuel, who knows? but we will check into that. and they the tower gives them an

instruction to say, you can go land on taxiway juliet, which i'm looking at the diagram here, right next to runway two three, which the flight data shows that delta 4819 was about to land on one. this crash occurred. so the fact that a medevac flight was there is so critical, especially in any sort of trauma response. it's called the golden hour to get somebody from a trauma scene to a hospital, a level one trauma center that can deal with something like this. we know that at least 18 people were injured, although we do not know the severity of their injuries. pretty miraculous that you can see in the video that some folks are walking away. and so when something like this happens, the controllers and the tower there essentially turn into being first responders. they are helping, at least in the initial phases, orchestrate the response. and you can see in the video the foam truck there, probably from the airport firehouse on the scene, putting

foam on this airplane that's fire retardant foam that essentially snuffs out the flames, starves them of oxygen, deals with the incredible heat that is not only caused by the fuel, but also the fumes of the fuel, which can be incredibly dangerous. and they're spraying it right on the wing there. this plane is inverted. it is upside down on the ground there at toronto pearson international airport. the roof of the plane, the ceiling of the airplane where the overhead bins are, that is now the floor. and so imagine being in a commercial flight, coming in on what was presumably a good approach. it looked okay from the flight tracking data and then being in an upside down dark airplane that is on fire. and so you have to respond very quickly, not only as the passenger, but also as the flight crew. and the fact that we know from the federal aviation administration here in the u.s., because this was a u.s. based airplane operated by regional carrier endeavor air, that 80 people were on board

this flight, and all of them evacuated this flight as it crashed on landing runway two three around 213 eastern time. so a bit more than an hour ago, a pretty incredible outcome after we just covered the horrible tragedy on the potomac river, where 67 people died, all apparently walking away with their lives on what was an apparently a full flight. >> pete, i know you'll continue to work your sources. stay around, stay nearby. let us know when you have more. we do know we do have an update. at least three passengers aboard the flight have critical injuries, including a child. that is according to an ambulance service in ontario. we have much more to get to hear. how in the world could something like this actually happen? new details about this terrifying crash are coming in by the minute. we're back with more after a short break. >> welcome back. >> have i got news for you? news saturday on cnn.

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>> it. >> doesn't seem like. >> it, it seems. >> somewhat contradictory that how. >> safe air travel. really is when you look at these pictures. look at a plane that's lost its wings. >> lost its. >> tail is half on. >> fire, and all these people. >> are walking out. all these people are surviving this this crash. it's truly is a feat of engineering how these planes are designed to be able to take an impact like this, and then to look at the cabin crew and the flight crew and the flight attendants and how well trained they are to be able to get everyone out. everyone thinks that they're there to just serve drinks and snacks, when that is absolutely not the case, i guarantee you that it was their efforts to get those people out and to act as first responders on the scene to make sure that everyone survived this accident. >> it's such an important point, particularly in moments like this, which oftentimes are the only moments where people actually grasp that reality. those who fly so often. do you want to ask when you look at this, i was struck in talking to mary schiavo earlier, where she made clear when she was in training, she had situations or at least one situation where she almost ended up, uh, like this while she was flying. how normal

is it to be kind of on the edge of something like this? >> it absolutely isn't normal. when we look at the frequency of flights that occur in the u.s., just in the u.s. and even with the number of incidents that we've seen in the last, you know, 30 to 60 days, this is still an incredibly rare event to happen. and unfortunately, what we're looking at here, i believe is just a perfect storm of events that led to this incident actually being able to occur. >> when you talk about that perfect storm of events, we've been talking a lot about the wind gusts. we knew at the time of the landing, some of them were reported as reaching up to 40 miles an hour. talk about the effect of wind when you're flying. how much of an impact that could have had here? >> yeah, absolutely. and what i'm what i think we're looking at here is the wind, as well as how it affected with the ice and snow on, on the runway. so the crj 900 has a max demonstrated crosswind components. not necessarily limitation, but it's a max demonstrated of 35 knots. but we need to

understand. and one of the, you know, the other the other contributors talked about it is it wasn't a direct crosswind. so the wind was coming at about a 45 degree angle to runway two three. so our crosswind component was only about 2324 knots. so about 2720 miles an hour. so it's within those demonstrated components. and the pilots knew that coming in. now when we couple that when we're that doesn't make it an easy landing when they're coming in and they're trying to to land in that crosswind. and then we couple that with the snow and the ice. i actually just flew out of aspen this morning, and it didn't have nearly as much ice and snow on the ground. and we were sliding all over the place taxiing out. so coming in with that crosswind and into a snow and possibly ice covered runway, anybody that's driven on ice knows that once you hit it, you're at the whim of physics at that point. it's no different when you're flying an airplane. if they hit a patch, a solid patch of compressed snow ice on that runway, coupled with a strong gust and crosswind, it could absolutely blow them off the side of the runway. we know

that they left before the threshold of one five left. so within the first third of the runway. so there was still a lot of energy in that aircraft. if it did have an excursion and leave the runway. and i think that's what we're seeing is leaving the runway and then the plane, you know, just gripping into the actual soft ground and rolling after that. >> it's such important context as we try and understand kind of the normal people here that don't necessarily have the expertise. we try and understand how this was plausible, very complex mix of dynamics kind of all coming together at once. josh, really appreciate your time. thanks so much. >> thanks for having me. >> i want to get straight back to cnn's paula newton. paula, you have brand new reporting on the injuries we've been following with some of the passengers. what have you learned? >> yeah, unfortunately, it is up to 15 that have injuries right now, though we know that three are in critical condition. unfortunately one child as well that is now being transported and is hopefully already there to the sickkids hospital in toronto. listen, 15 is a great number, but given the fact of

what we're seeing here and how miraculous this was, grateful that at this point in time, even the transport minister in canada is saying that everyone is accounted for. but again, phil, to update you. 15 now have injuries and have been transported to certainly hospitals and other medical clinics in the area. i will say, phil, that given the conditions there, it really would have been a feat to try and get everyone off of that airplane quickly, very quickly. obviously, given the concern of the fuel and the fact that they were trying to put out a fire at the time, and the fact that the wing, as you can see there, had already sheared off, so there were bound to be more injuries just in trying to get these passengers off that airplane. and as you can see on those very snowy, icy conditions. phil. >> well, we'll continue to check back with you, continue reporting. let us know when you have new information. it has been just an unbelievable scene playing out in toronto. 80

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comes in. i do want to bring in brendan back in pete muntean pete, you're taking a closer look at the scene where this actually happened. what are you seeing? >> the black smoke. there is a big telltale. phil. not only that, this plane was on fire, but likely a fuel fire burning pretty hot. we just got a new statement from delta airlines, and i'm going to read it to you here verbatim. initial reports. no fatalities. several customers with injuries. according to delta airlines, transported to area hospital. our primary focus is taking care of the impacted. this is the breakdown now of the people on board. according to delta, the flight was carrying a total of 80 people, 76 passengers and four crew. so we know, according to the federal aviation administration, that all 80 on board were successfully evacuated from delta flight 4819, operated by endeavor air around 245 eastern standard time. as this plane was coming in to land at toronto pearson international airport, i want to show you and break down some of the images here, because there's a lot of information and even the early images that

we're getting off of social media. the big thing investigators will always look at the aircraft, the pilots and the environment. the big thing now is the environment. and of course, we know that it was blowing snow at the time of this crash. the wind was going to gusting to about 35 knots. so we're talking about 40mph. and you can see in this early image this appears to be taken after the fire was put out. you can see the crash fire rescue vehicles here, the foam truck. and then also folks still on the runway here. it was bitter cold, about 18°f when this happened. and then of course, investigators will want to look at the wind. and that is pretty key here because we talked earlier about how there was a pretty good crosswind, uh, pretty challenging coming into land on runway two three at toronto pearson airport. and you can see the windsock here in canada. they're alternating orange and white. and the u.s., they're flat emergency orange. we typically call this a 15 knot

sock when the sock is full out. so that says the wind is above 15 knots at the time. and it's a pretty good biting angle here at about 45 degrees to the runway. as this plane was coming in to land. the early flight tracking data shows that the approach was standard, relatively normal. things look stable in aviation terms, meaning the plane looked like it was on the glide slope on the proper path to come into the runway, on speed, on altitude. so that's not really the issue. the big question now is how did this airplane end up completely inverted upside down on the runway? i want to show you also some of the videos of the emergency response here. and i may pause this at a few key points. you can see folks coming out of the mid exit here. and i'm going to pause it here. um, let me switch cursors. uh, you can see folks coming out of the mid exit here. that is really telling because you can see where the wing used to be. this would have been the right wing here. and it is gone. uh, that is the bottom of the fuselage. now on the top you can also see

the foam truck here and the firefighters responding from the airport fire house putting out the fire, which looked to be primarily on the bottom of the fuselage of the airplane. that is where the fuel is. that is so critical to get that fire out quickly as you're trying to evacuate people. so a lot happening here all at once. let me recue this so you can see some of what was going on at the very front of the airplane. you're probably familiar with this door here as we pan over. um, this is the r1 exit in the aviation terms, this is what you would board on coming in and out of a jetway. the door is fully open. the slide is not deployed. don't need it because you're upside down. and you can see the folks here coming out of the airplane, which would have been completely dark and on fire. you have to imagine the terror as folks tried to get out of this very quickly. everybody across the board, pilots, flight attendants, the control tower, the crash, fire, rescue crews, even the passengers did a good job. the big takeaway here

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video we had gotten prior to that showed singeing, but it didn't look like it had been kind of a catastrophic fire situation to the naked eye. that appears not to be the case when you look at this smoke. what does that tell you? >> well, it's it really is reflective that it appears as though both of the wings of this aircraft were torn off upon impact. and when you tear off your wings, those. that's where the primary fuel cells for the aircraft, the fuel tanks are located. and that this, uh. normally not particularly flammable jet fuel, if it's aerated, it becomes terribly explosive and flammable. and i think that it shows that these wings, as they were torn off, it aerated the jet fuel. and you had a flash fire that was very dangerous. >> have you seen something like this before? like, is there an explanation for this, that somebody with your experience would say, oh, this is probably

what happened here. >> well, it's hard to tell at this point, but you had, you know, you had like any accident, you had a series of of events. you have a very high crosswind. you have tough visibility. you have a. you know, a slick runway. uh, all of these things, uh, could contribute to the accident and the transport safety board of canada is very sophisticated. they're one of the best in the world. they'll call on the u.s. to assist them, per the treaty. uh, that we're all signatories to. and we'll get to the bottom of this. and the two black boxes, the voice recorder and the data recorder will help, as will video, uh, shots of the plane landing. i'm sure there are some surveillance cameras that picked up various aspects of the flight, so we'll

figure out the canadians will figure out what happened in a relatively short period of time. >> just real quick before i let you go, what are the what are the first things they're going to be keying on? >> well, they're going to keep i mean, i think one of the most important things is the survivability of this crash that that all of the people so far have been have been able to survive, what, 15 years ago would have been a deadly crash. and the survivability is the real story of this tragedy, uh, that that people who are buckled into their seats, uh, survived. and i think that that's going to be, uh, a real tale here. uh, and, uh, i think the idea they may reexamine crosswind on certain kinds of situations, but, uh, the canadians will get this right. they're they're good at this. >> peter goelz always appreciate your time, sir. thanks so much.

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