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>> this is a nightmare scenario in so many ways. 80 people crash landing inside a plane that catches fire, loses a wing, skids down a runway, flips upside down. today, cnn has obtained new video showing that very moment at toronto pearson international airport. and you can see. delta flight 4819 slamming down on the runway monday afternoon. you can see it here. it's a hard landing. and if that wasn't enough, the plane then bursts into flames before rolling off onto its roof. somehow, everyone on board survived. delta says that two of the 21 people injured remain in the hospital. just this afternoon, we got another update from airport officials as they begin this investigation. cnn's paula newton is live for us from new york. paula, what did investigators reveal about what

happened? >> well, the bottom line is not much except to say that the investigation is well underway. and think about that, boris. that plane will remain on that tarmac for the better part of the next 48 hours, as at least 20 investigators from canada, but also officials with the faa as well as the so-called go team from delta, all will be there on site, looking at the fuselage as it remains there in toronto. but as you just pointed out, there is a lot of video right now as well. the data recorder, the data recorder will be key here to really determine what was the altitude, what was the wind speed, the ground speed, all of these kinds of things as well, of course, as the communication with the control tower. i want to point out that deborah flint, who just gave a press conference there in toronto, she is the lead at toronto airport, did indicate what i saw for myself about an hour before this happened at toronto. they had had well over 20in of snow in the last week. of course, there was snow blowing everywhere. does that mean that that led to anything that we saw here? we're

not sure. and at this hour, neither are investigators. what is crucial here, though, is to determine that when they have these kinds of anomalies, these kinds of weather events, should that particular bombardier jet, that regional jet be landing at that time in that wind speed, and it will give them so much more data and information so that they know when they have these extreme weather conditions, whether or not a plane like that needs to avoid that specific weather condition, that specific runway, whatever it happens to be or boris, we can't exclude the fact that despite how dramatic the snow looks and you're looking at it now, um, that the weather didn't have anything to do with this, that this might have been something with the landing gear. again, so many different questions here. we expect a preliminary report within a month. >> paula newton, thank you so much for the update. this investigation obviously still in the very early stages, but videos from the ground and on the plane are providing some crucial insights as investigators work to figure out

exactly what happened here. here to break it down for us, cnn aviation correspondent pete muntean. and pete, as you watch these videos, i wonder what sticks out to you. they're so revealing. >> and it will be so key to investigators. you know, this is the video that was taken from one of the airplanes that was holding short of runway two three here at toronto pearson international airport. and you can see what looks like what would be called a stable approach coming down at a very steady rate of altitude. and then a big hit to the right, main landing gear. the right wing shears away and the plane rolls over 180 degrees onto its back. let's look frame by frame here. you can see here that the plane remains at mostly a steady attitude, meaning reference to the horizon. but what we don't really see is any sort of big change in the attitude. typically at about this altitude, maybe about 30ft above the ground, is when you start a round out and a flare. so bringing the nose of the airplane up and sort of changing the attitude of the airplane. so it's not like this. it's maybe a bit more of an angle like this to really sort of cushion the

sink rate that you saw in that approach. obviously that didn't really happen. and so now will be the big question for investigators. why did that not happen? you see the landing gear on the right here hit first. and that really took the brunt of this force, causing the right wing to rip away. and for the airplane to continue tumbling down runway two three there. what is so interesting to me is that the post-crash fire happened really in a moment. and that was not it did not really linger on, even though we heard from the fire chief at toronto pearson airport todd aitken, that this was a little bit of hotspots here and there that they had to put out, but it wasn't something severe and that could have really changed the outcome of this crash in such a huge way. >> we heard paula there talking about the weather that she experienced about an hour before this plane was landing. when you watch these videos, does anything signal to you that the weather may have played a role in this? >> let's just talk about what the pilots were looking at here. and this is a time that is so

critical and your mind is is working overtime making these corrections and, and calculations essentially by eyeball and feel. that's why pilots are so experienced and get paid what they paid. they get paid. it takes you know they can get their full year's pay in a couple of moments of time, if that makes any sense. so what we're seeing here is the fact that the plane did not really nose up. and the question is, did the blowing snow here that you can sort of see in the distance make any sort of illusion for them, making it harder for them to perceive where the ground depth above the ground and to see the runway. and so did they get disoriented. and that will be a question for investigators. of course, the wind was really huge, too. um, let me just sort of page to the runway design here. there were landing on runway two three here. so this is to the southwest of the wind was coming from 270. so that's straight out of the west at 27, gusting

35. so that's in knots. that's about 40mph. you can see this angle here. that's about a 40 degree angle. so it's not unheard of that airplanes can land in a crosswind like this. but it does make things a bit more challenging. and so did the crosswind come into play here? the right wing was low. we saw in that impact image. that's the standard technique for coming into a crosswind and coming into land. but did that become a factor. and it's something that investigators will really begin to look at at this very early stage. they always look at the airplane, the pilots and the environment. and the environment will be a big factor in this investigation. >> and no doubt they'll also closely be watching some of these videos. how important are they in an investigation like this? >> every piece of video helps. and in an investigation like this, we get so many more angles in 2025 because everyone is armed with a camera. typically, you would not see a camera out in the flight deck of a commercial airliner, but this video is very telling and will

be key for investigators as they begin to piece this together. and then we've seen the closed circuit television video from the ground. this was from tmz earlier, and you could see the sink right there. the impact on the right main landing gear and the right wing broke away. so all of this will be essentially brought together by a composite as investigators go through this to really sort of piece this together, frame by frame. they will do the work to sort of sync this up and make it so that they can build a narrative as they try to put together the preliminary report, and then probably a final report in a year's time. >> yeah, we look forward to getting those answers. pete muntean thanks so much for the reporting, brianna. >> for more on all of this, i want to bring in sara nelson. she's the president of the association of flight attendants. sara, you actually had two members of your union on that plane. what can you tell us about them and their conditions? >> so two working flight attendants on that plane and members of the association of flight attendants, and they performed their work perfectly as aviation first responders. this is the reason that we are on the plane is to evacuate

passengers from a crash landing like this safely. and they did that. all 80 people. now, they they did their jobs perfectly. we are getting support right around them. they are okay, but it is not a normal day to land upside down and to find yourself in a position of getting everyone off of a burning aircraft. so we're going to have a lot of support around them to make sure that they are okay. holistically. >> yeah. can you talk about that? because i spoke with a survivor yesterday of this. and i mean, he was just visibly shaken. and these folks that were talking about your the flight attendants, they're the last ones off the plane. >> that's right. they do a sweep to make sure that everyone is off the plane, and that it is a difficult job. but this is what we're trained for, and i have gotten reports from hundreds of briefings following critical incidents where flight attendants say, wow, that training really kicked in

because this is not a normal day. aviation is the safest form of transportation in the world, and that's because of the safety professionals who are doing their work in all parts of aviation. but when this happens, that training kicks in while passengers are oftentimes in shock and they need those strong instructions from the flight attendants in order to do what they need to do to get off the plane. and it was brought up that that fire could have been much worse. that could engulf the plane in about 90s. and that's why we're trained to get people off in that amount of time. and that training kicks in to get people in motion. but after the fact, then flight attendants have to put up with what they just went through. >> yeah. so, sara, can you tell us because normally, normally when we see a situation where there's had to be an emergency exit from a plane, there are inflatable slides. i don't know if that changes. if the if the plane lands upside down or if that's something the flight attendants actually have to manually make sure they don't go off. can you can you give us some insight into that? >> well, it would depend on the aircraft. and so not all

aircrafts have slides, but certainly they're not designed to work upside down. so that would not be an option for you in a situation like that. and the flight attendant would have to navigate around that. and in this case that that was not even part of the equation. so they weren't they didn't have to navigate with slides that would get in the way. but it also would not have been an option, even if those slides were to deploy with an aircraft that is upside down. >> their actions unbelievable. what a story. we don't often get to cover them where there is an ending with everyone surviving. it's amazing. sara nelson, thank you so much. >> thank you brianna. >> top level u.s. and russian officials meeting face to face for the first time in years. details on the progress that was made in ending the war in ukraine. despite kyiv not being invited to these critical talks. plus, after weeks of elon musk talking about doge, the trump administration says he's not actually an employee of the department, nor is he the

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that i will have an official visit on march 10th. we expect the u.s. delegation in kyiv. >> we're joined now by william taylor, a former u.s. ambassador to ukraine. ambassador, thanks so much for being with us. i want to get your reaction to one of the key initial agreements, the u.s. and russia, agreeing to reestablish their respective diplomatic missions. do you read that as a concession by either side? >> of course i don't. that's not a concession that i worry about. it's fine to have conversations between officials in the two governments. we haven't had that up until now. it's true. so this is a change. but if they're serious, if they've gotten if the trump administration has gotten president putin to the table, willing to have serious negotiations, and we don't know that he's ready to have serious negotiations, but he's but he's at least at the table, which is going to be the hard thing. and the trump administration has gotten them there. then having

embassies in both capitals makes sense. >> we've heard president zelenskyy suggest that ukraine may turn down a deal negotiated on its behalf, as if it doesn't produce the results that kyiv is looking for. what options would zelenskyy have if a deal brokered this way doesn't meet his demands? >> well, first of all, they're not going to be any deals brokered this week. i don't think, boris, i think this is just an initial step to establish some things having to do with the bilateral relationships, but then also having to do with the next steps on this agreement between the united states and russia and ukraine. that didn't happen. of course they can't do it. i mean, president zelenskyy is of course, right. they can't have conversations or come to any agreements about about a ceasefire or anything having to do with the russian invasion of ukraine without the ukrainians. and all american officials have said exactly that. so that's not going on. um, but the second

thing is this is just the next step. the next step will be clearly for the ukrainians to have a seat. but but interestingly enough for us, when you ask, what would president zelenskyy do? he's already given some indication of what he would do if it's a bad deal. he was presented with a document that was that had to do with the economic sharing of the strategic minerals and rare earths, and he said, no, he can walk away. he can he can say no to the united states. and with some great pain. the united states is a big supporter of his. he understands that. but he's also not going to sign a bad deal. >> so do you think that the statements coming from zelenskyy and european leaders about feeling left out of this and not being invited, do you think that's been overblown? >> no, i think i think they're right to be concerned about being part of any discussion. this discussion today, um, in saudi arabia was not a negotiation. as i say. i don't

think it was a negotiation on anything substantive having to do with the agreement. um, that substantive conversation will come and the europeans will have to be there, and the ukrainians will have to be there. and their right to be be interested and wanting to be in those conversations. and i am absolutely sure that they will be. >> one key aspect of that future negotiation is likely the safeguards that ukraine wants put in place. and european leaders have floated the idea of putting peacekeeping forces in ukraine. if there is an agreement, something that russian foreign minister sergey lavrov said would be unacceptable, uh, specifically if they were troops from nato countries present in ukraine. is there any alternative? there? >> the alternative is to disregard what lavrov says. the russians don't get a vote and don't get a vote in whether or not the west europeans or the americans or nato provides a security guarantee to the ukrainians. they don't get a

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billionaire is described as an advisor to the president, working as a special government employee and, like other senior advisers. this filing says musk has no actual or formal authority to make government decisions himself. with us now is stephen miller. he is the white house deputy chief of staff for policy. stephen, thank you so much for taking time for us. so who is in charge of doge? >> the president of the united states? >> he's the administrator of doge. >> doge. >> no, the doge is the what was formerly u.s. digital services. it's an agency. the federal government, that reports into the office of the executive office of the president, which reports to the president of the united states. okay. the way that article two works is a president wins an election, and then he appoints staff, including myself, including mike waltz, including susie wiles, including elon musk. and those staff report to him.

>> okay. well aware. so elon musk a week ago answered a question about transparency at doge. this is how he spoke about doge. >> well, we actually are trying to be as transparent as possible. in fact, our actions post our actions to the doge handle on x and to the doge website. so all of our actions are maximally transparent. >> so you hear him there. we post our actions. all of our actions are maximally transparent. does elon musk know he's not in charge of doge? doge? >> again, the president runs the government. then the president appoints advisers, including elon, including myself, including all the other staff here at the white house. and then those staff, in turn, execute the president's commands and directions to all the agencies of the federal government. this is how democracy works, something that we treasure in america. the whole american people go to the ballot box. they elect the president. the president appoints staff, the staff that

administer his orders and directives across the whole u.s. government. >> okay, stephen, i get that. but this is important because we want to talk about who is making the decisions here. there were 300 employees. the national nuclear security administration, you know about this. they were fired. the agency had to resend those terminations because these were employees who were critical to maintaining the nation's nuclear stockpile. so then who is it making those decisions of which federal employees are terminated? >> well, in that case, the secretary of energy would be the one. so what you're describing with the the cuts in the department of energy, those are directed by the senate confirmed secretary of energy. >> okay. so that was the secretary of energy's mistake. >> well, i wouldn't use the term mistake. i would say that it's pretty standard when you're downsizing government. you make cuts, you assess those cuts, you see who needs to be rehired, who needs to be kept, who needs to be. >> that's not what happened here. you know that they were. >> all normal. and i under. >> these. these aren't normal things.

>> i understand. i understand that the i understand that that even a temporary interruption in federal employment is a great crisis and catastrophe for you and for cnn. what the american people see is a government that is finally delivering a promise of accountability under president trump. you want to have a conversation about transparency? let me ask you a question. do you have any idea where the $22 billion that the department of health and human services provided to illegal aliens under joe biden is right now 22 billion with a b. that's enough to provide a free house to every homeless veteran in america. where's the $22 billion? i don't know. you don't know. nobody knows. joe biden just spent it and now it's gone. transparency begins with having an accounting of where every federal dollar is spent. and god bless president trump for leading this effort. >> stephen, it seems like the crisis here had to do with the nation's nuclear stockpile. and for these particular federal

workers, which which i'm not. so this isn't my personal crisis. military members of the guard. i don't think. >> it's a crisis. >> when you you about this. well. >> i don't think it's a crisis. and you don't think it's. >> a crisis. >> why are we talking. >> about military? well, it is a crisis for some people. for instance, military members. >> you just said you didn't think it was a crisis. >> it's not my crisis, stephen. i'm not a federal employee. >> okay, so. >> i don't think it's. >> a crisis. and you don't think it's a crisis, so no one. >> thinks it's my personal crisis of employment. if you have concerns about the nation's nuclear stockpile, then it is obviously a crisis. concerns the. >> issue when it comes to when it comes to. >> stephen, please. when it comes to. >> nuclear weapons, i. >> think, stephen, this is a very important question. >> you want to talk about nuclear security? i'm happy to. the nuclear stockpile in this country has been aging and unmonitored for years. president trump is committed to the modernization. >> of our. >> nuclear stockpile and to historic investment in nuclear

security. additionally, the president is committed to preventing global nuclear war, which we have never been closer to than we are right now. and he is leading peace negotiations to end a war in europe that could very well lead to nuclear war, which is the worst possible nuclear catastrophe any of us could envision. >> okay, stephen, so there are military members of the guard and reserve. they are protected by law from being fired from their day job while they're deployed. i have learned that at one agency, an employee who is actually currently deployed with the military has been notified. they've been fired. does your administration understand who actually makes up this workforce that they're dismantling? >> i'm sorry, i'm confused by your question. is your question does the president have the authority to fire a member of the u.s. military? >> this is a this is someone who is a federal employee and is

currently deployed, who has government protection. as i'm sure you're aware. >> there's a. >> lot of protecting that. >> i don't know what laws you're referring to. i would love for you to be more specific. so far, you're not telling me the employee, the. >> uniformed services employment and reemployment rights act, it's well known by hr and the federal government and in in private industry as well. >> so. okay, so you're saying that the president, in your view, doesn't have the authority to recall a member of the armed forces who may or may not? again, i'm the first time hearing of this that may or may not be serving overseas. >> stephen, you understand how the guard and reserve work. they have a day job, and then when they're activated, they deploy while they deploy. right. but your employment is protected by. >> law. your question is lacking in so much detail. i promise you, i'm trying to follow your question. are you are you asking me if the president has the authority to remove a member of the military who may be? my question is that your question? >> my question was.

>> okay, well, i know. how much time you want to spend on this, but i'm not following your question. >> it's an important one. um, i guess i'll determine how much airtime i spend on it. but does your administration understand who is in the federal workforce? >> yes. we have such a broad question. of course we understand who's in the federal workforce. and and i'm happy to indulge all of these very histrionic questions that 40% fired. >> that it's 30% veterans. >> i think that the. >> and that you have people who are deployed. >> the the u.s. government has $36 trillion in debt. the interest payments on the debt exceed the national defense budget. the american people are exhausted and tired of watching their tax dollars be corruptly spent, abused wasted and in every sense robbed and stolen from them. this president, for the first time in history, is committed to restoring accountability at every level of the federal government. you may

assert there is no waste in the pentagon. you may assert there is no waste in treasury. you may assert there's no wasted hhs. >> steven. steven, i don't think anyone. >> why are you not celebrating these cuts? if you agree there is waste, if you agree there is abuse. if you agree there is corruption, why are you not celebrating the cuts, the reforms that are being instituted every day that no action is taken the entire salaries of american workers that are taxed disappear forever. >> stephen, let's calm down. this is not. this isn't. we're not having a debate. >> no reason. >> about whether there are. >> you are trying to debate me and i. i will be as excited as i want to be about the fact that we are saving americans billions of dollars, that we are ending the theft and waste and grift and corruption that we are stopping american taxpayer dollars from subsidizing a rogue federal bureaucracy that has been relentlessly weaponized against the american people. >> stephen, i care. >> about this. >> talking about.

>> your colleagues. not care. >> about this issue. >> but we care about this issue. >> the american people. >> care about this issue. >> they also care about privacy. the american public. >> overwhelmingly supports what president trump is doing. >> let's talk about irs data. the doge will be able to access, uh, you have doge asking for access to the irs systems. this includes the integrated data retrieval system. i know you've talked about this a little bit. will doge employees be able to access individual taxpayer i.d. numbers and social security numbers? >> no. but also keep in mind you. >> will be able to access taxpayer bank account information. >> they will not be able to access anything that any other appropriately authorized federal employee could access. when you keep talking about doge employees, you're just talking about federal workers. you're just literally talking about federal workers. so your question may as well be, can federal workers do their job? the job. >> of the federal workers at. >> the irs is to prevent. well,

i'm telling you that that is actually what you are asking. doge is part of the federal government. it is a term to describe the employees of the federal government who have been tasked with anti-fraud and anti-corruption activities. again, you may not consider it a scandal that millions of illegal aliens are accepting and receiving taxpayer benefits. you may not consider it a scandal that millions of aliens have stolen social security numbers. >> and i want to ask i want to ask you about that. >> you say resources. >> you say that you're looking at widespread fraud in the irs data, and that you mentioned yesterday and you mentioned again here illegal immigrants who are getting. child tax credits. if are you looking for that information in the irs data? >> any time a crime is committed, of course there should be an investigation. is it your position that if

somebody who is. >> stephen, are you looking for that information in the irs data? data. >> the federal government will find every illegal alien who is stealing american taxpayer dollars. and that is what americans. >> expect that in the irs. don't even fathom the premise of. your question. it's a simple question. do you find that information in the irs data and share that with law enforcement? >> irs investigators find illegal aliens stealing taxpayer money. of course they will be referred to i.c.e. of course they will be referred to homeland security investigations. of course it will be. surely your position is not that we should let illegal aliens steal taxpayer dollars. again, you want to talk about somebody to be upset about. that's it. what do you think? the millions of illegal aliens who have also stolen social security, illegal aliens in mass have faked social security numbers? they have fake identities. those are felonies. why should there be an entire class in this country that is immunized from criminal prosecution and arrest for committing felonies? felony

theft of taxpayer information, felony theft of social security, felony theft of identity? these are all crimes. and yes, they will be investigated. yes, they will be prosecuted. and yes, he will be deported. and you know, what happened to those deportations. >> occur just very quickly. >> americans will get jobs. >> americans will get benefits. >> americans will get housing. >> even if they got a child, if they got a credit, a child tax credit. and they they will be referred. you're saying to ice for that and you would expect deported for that? is that is that the position of the administration. >> if it is found that a crime has been committed, they will be referred if the if it is justifies a prosecution, they will be prosecuted. if it justifies a deportation, they will be deported. this will be based on existing irs protocols and procedures for criminal investigation and fraud. the difference is that no one is given immunity anymore. no one is given permission to break the law anymore because this is not

a country. this is not a sovereign territory. if illegal aliens can freely steal billions with a b billions of taxpayer dollars, and i would have to imagine that that cnn, which is endlessly talked about the importance of democracy and the rule of law, would say that no class in this country should be above the law, least of all illegal aliens who have trespassed on our territory. >> stephen, i'm just asking. i wanted to get your position on some things. this. we're not taking a position here. we wanted to get some answers to some questions. there are so many questions that need to be answered. and stephen miller. you are. >> in fact indifferent or unbiased on these questions. but thank. >> you, stephen miller. thank you so much for your time. really appreciate it, and we'll be right back. >> thank you. >> what would you look at that. >> jerry, you gotta. >> see this saying that. >> trust me. after 15 walks gets. >> a little old. yeah, i really should be retired by now. wish i invested when i had the chance

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actual food. military.com just did a big exposé that reports the army repurposed $151 million of soldier's own money, funds that were automatically deducted from their paychecks were supposed to cover their food costs in the barracks and military installations. but military.com found that a huge percentage of those payments are not being spent on feeding soldiers. after going through the financial records of the army's 11 largest bases. joining me now is the military.com reporter who broke this story. steve bannon. steve, this story. i mean, it is wild. so if the money is not going toward food, where's it going? >> that's the big question. the army didn't really have much of an answer for. this is a story we worked on for months gathering financial data from its largest installations. and that was our big question is, if they're not spending this money on food, as is required by pentagon rules, where is it going? and that's something they

frankly didn't have an answer for. >> so and just to explain to people, right. this is money that this is part of the earnings of a soldier. and then it is deducted because they are supposed to, in a way, get back a service. so how much money are we talking about? >> so soldiers that live in the barracks, these are usually younger soldiers 20, 21 years old for about 460 bucks is put into their paychecks every month. and then most of that is taken back out. soldiers that don't live in these barracks, that have families get to keep. usually spent on food, but those younger soldiers in those barracks have much of that money taken out to pay for food in the dining facilities. these are effectively almost like school cafeterias for soldiers to eat at. >> okay. and so your story shows this image of a plate of it's toast. it's lima beans. the soldiers were actually fed at one point. and you outlined in

the story just how bases have been struggling to feed their soldiers properly in recent years. so it's not a matter of like, oh, the money, actually, they had plenty to feed the soldiers, and there was a lot left over. >> right. i mean, we've heard complaints from soldiers for years about food that's undercooked, frankly, very low quality or in some cases outright unavailable. of this this is an issue that other services don't seem to struggle as much with. and this seems to be, frankly, an accounting issue that has been going on for, for years in the army. they're frankly seemingly leaving money on the table. and they point to soldiers not going to these dining facilities, where soldiers have said over the years that we're not going because the food's not good, or these shelves, frankly, are stocked or we don't have options to eat at. so it's almost like a self-fulfilling prophecy on on the army's part. >> and just real quick, what's the army saying about this? >> they're pointing to the

headcount. they're saying soldiers don't go to these dining facilities, therefore they're not investing money that they collected from them for food for those dining facilities. but that obviously leaves us with that immediate follow up of why are you still collecting this money if you don't need it all? are you talking to congress saying, we don't need all this money to soldiers anymore? and why aren't you investing in higher quality food or better options? and then maybe the soldiers would go to those dining facilities. >> yeah. who wants toast and lima beans? not many people. steve, thank you so much. the reporting is great and thanks for sharing it with us. >> thank you for having me. >> ahead, new cnn reporting on a covert cia operation. why the agency is flying spy drones over mexico. >> i brought in ensure max protein with 30g of protein. those who. >> tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. here, i'll take that. >> ensure max protein, 30g protein, one gram sugar and a protein blend to feed muscles up

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