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>> today on inside politics. >> lashing out. >> just in the last hour, president trump's criticism. >> of his ukrainian counterpart got more harsh and more personal as he falsely blames volodymyr zelenskyy for starting the war, one in which russia invaded his country three years ago. we have the breaking details, plus best friends forever. donald trump and elon musk sit down for a fawning interview on fox. neither can stop praising the other, but we did learn some things from that love fest, and we will explain. and trump's deputy attorney general is in new york today to ask a court to let him drop corruption charges against mayor eric adams. now it's up to the judge. i'm dana bash. let's go behind the headlines and inside politics. we start with the rapidly escalating and frankly stunning war of words between president trump and ukrainian president
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volodymyr zelenskyy, who is fighting for his country's very survival. this is what trump posted on truth social just within the last few minutes. quote. think of it a modestly successful comedian, volodymyr zelenskyy, talked the united states of america into spending $350 billion to go into a war that couldn't be won, that never had to start. he refuses to have elections, is very low in ukrainian polls. and the only thing he was good at was playing biden like a fiddle, a dictator, a dictator without elections. zelenskyy better move fast or he is going to have or he's not going to have a country left. now, just for the record, the number that he gave there $350 billion. that's not correct. according to the kiel institute. the u.s. has spent about $119 billion to help ukraine as of the end of 2024. now to be clear, that post we just read
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comes after trump already blamed ukraine for starting a war that began, of course, when russia launched an unprovoked invasion three years ago. and this all prompted the following response from zelenskyy himself this morning. >> unfortunately, president trump, i have great respect for him as a leader of a nation that we have great respect for the american people who always support us, unfortunately lives in this disinformation space. >> we have cnn's jeff zeleny, who was with the president in florida. and nick paton walsh, who is in kyiv. jeff, i want to start with you. obviously, this post that we just read, at least part of it was in response to zelenskyy claiming that the president is in a disinformation space. >> dana, that post was sent from the president here at. >> his doral golf club. >> he's been. spending an extended. president's day
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weekend here in florida. he'll be. >> giving a speech here tonight. and yes. >> it is riddled. >> with falsehoods. but one thing. >> is clear there is no doubt that vladimir zelenskyy now is in. >> the president's. >> crosshairs. >> and perhaps. >> more than that, it's. >> been an extraordinary. >> 24 hours. we heard the president yesterday at mar a lago suggesting it was zelenskyy who. >> did not. >> relent and in fact led to. >> the war and now. >> going much further, calling him a dictator. and the fact that he scammed the united states. of course, that is not true. all of that aid money was voted on by a bipartisan group of congress. of course, president zelenskyy was not a guest of the u.s. congress. he has been hailed as a hero to western allies. we cannot overstate. how dramatic these developments have been in terms of the u.s. russia position. not only have their relations been reset, starting with that. >> phone call one. >> week ago, but it has gone so much more than that. so we do expect the president to talk more about that later here today. but, dana, one thing is clear. trump has not said one
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negative thing about vladimir putin. only several about vladimir zelenskyy. >> mhm. >> really good point. thank you so much jeff and nick. we just heard jeff say we cannot overstate how much whiplash we are seeing when it comes to the u.s. relationship with russia. and of course, in the last even few minutes or 12 hours or so, what the u.s. position is vis a vis ukraine and its leader, can you please put that all in context, especially given the fact that you have been covering this war for as long as it's been going on for three years. >> it's hard to know where to start, really. i mean, let's just get down to the reality on the battlefield here. we now have the united states, ukraine's key main backer, sounding pretty much like it doesn't even want to see the ukrainian president still in power. calling him a dictator. utterly false, obviously, but that calls into question exactly what the mindset of troops on the front line are, where russia is advancing. there may be less aid. there may be no american
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aid going forward. that's all in doubt now, as is the relationship between washington and moscow, as is the probably for many ukrainians here. horrific idea that the world's most powerful man appears to be saying things that the kremlin had been saying over the past years that zelenskyy is not legitimate. well, he won an election, and he says he still has polling in the 57% area. that's backed up by some independent sources, too. certainly not the 4% that trump said last night. and at the same time, we have the fact that russia and the united states had a pretty clear rapprochement in saudi arabia, that the rehabilitation of russia's image in the american public eye is something that trump is allowing to happen reasonably quickly. and while ukraine was at the heart of the peace talks we've been seeing, it does appear to be part of that agenda now, not necessarily the core of it, particularly after saudi arabia. where does this leave us? well, we have trump's envoy, keith kellogg here in kyiv, essentially to listen to reset after a rocky week, but that's now overshadowed by this personal spat. it is clearly, i think, personal. i think
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zelenskyy this morning when he talked about trump living in a different space, was trying to counter the idea that zelenskyy himself was illegitimate, that he was unable to maintain a mandate here. but now we've seen this spat escalate with him being called a dictator. look, elections, just let me clarify this here. russia's meddled in every election i've seen here in the last 22 years. i've been covering ukraine. they are good at that. they're likely to be good this time round. and that's if the election even manages to get held to international standards. a war is happening here. there's martial law. what will you do about the millions of ukrainians living abroad as refugees? how do they vote? how do front line troops vote? how do you reform the electoral process to modern standards? how do you get international observers in. so many questions to be answered. and if any doubt over the election results only feeds into the idea that the presidency here in kyiv is illegitimate. so zelenskyy's team, frankly, many here in kyiv think the idea of elections is simply a nonstarter in wartime because it would just feed russia's narrative and
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political weakness here and possibly even take troops away from their front line duties, particularly if it's held during a ceasefire. so a lot of questions here, but we've ultimately seen in the last week is the president of the united states. i think it's fair to say, turned on zelenskyy, his ukrainian counterpart, calling into question the continuation of the main supplier of aid here in europe's largest land war since the 1940s. and we've also seen the guarantee of america as europe's security guarantor ebbing after comments in brussels by the pentagon chief. radical change here and it's ultimately ukraine's sovereignty that is now in doubt. >> dana and nick, each of the things that you just said at the end, there would be monumental, uh, when it comes to a shift in approach over the last almost century in and of itself. and now we have all of them together and who knows what is to come. nick, thank you so much for that. and i want to turn to my fellow reporters here at the table. jeff mason is here from
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reuters. michael warren of the dispatch and cnn's priscilla alvarez. just to underscore what nick was saying about russia being giddy about what they are hearing just in the last few minutes, we saw a post on x from the rt, which is the russian information, um, state state information. trump destroys zelenskyy, the dictator doing a terrible job, leaving ukraine shattered with millions dead and 100 billion in u.s. taxpayer money missing. how long can zelenskyy now last? >> well. >> i mean, that underscores. >> a couple of different things. number one, president trump is clearly using some talking points from moscow in his own, you know, rhetoric, both with with reporters and on truth, social. and now russia is. >> basically thanking. >> him for that and amplifying it more. >> by praising. >> trump and using that same this cycle that has started. to to underscore the point that it
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has been making now. >> for a couple of years. >> and they. >> are i don't want to say they're working together, but the two things are helping each other out. they're both amplifying each other's. >> messages. >> and that is a clear shift from decades of u.s. policy. and certainly the u.s. position with its allies over the last three years during the war. >> yeah, and the disinformation campaign or the world of disinformation. uh, how this is what zelenskyy talked about. this is precisely what he's referring to. >> yeah, absolutely. >> that that trump is quite literally parroting the talking points from putin. not only talking about, uh, the idea that this is ukraine's fault when this was a brazen attempt to try to seize ukraine and put it back and give it back to mother russia, which is how vladimir putin believes that part of the world should look. uh, and the list goes on and on and on. um,
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i want to ask about how this is actually being perceived in corners of donald trump's party, the republican party, because obviously, this is not the republican party that we all started to cover when we started here in washington, because it was much more hawkish. now there's very much a populist bent, which is how donald trump is where he is. but the chair of the armed services committee in the united states senate, a republican, roger wicker, um, he cannot even hide how disgusted he is with the shift in position. listen to what he said to our colleague manu raju. >> do you think that. >> putin. >> can be trusted in these negotiations? >> no. putin is a war criminal and should be in jail for the rest of his life, if not executed. >> michael. >> look. >> i mean. >> i don't. >> want to. >> downplay the importance. >> of the russian influence here. remember, there were right.
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>> wing media. >> figures who were revealed. >> to. >> have been paid by russia to sort of spout their propaganda. not not about a year or so ago. um, this is something that ideologically, uh, is is a part of the sort of right wing media sphere. um, so i don't want to downplay that when i say this has so much to do. and nick paton walsh mentioned this with a sort of personal animus that donald trump seems to have as well, with vladimir zelenskyy. but remember the first impeachment everybody forgets about the first impeachment. about this. it was about his frustration with, uh, vladimir zelenskyy not digging up dirt on joe biden and hunter biden, who who donald trump perceived as being a likely political opponent in the upcoming 2020 election. um, that his anger and frustration is very palpable here. all of that is working together with what i described, this ideological, uh, sort of feedback loop with russian propaganda and certain right wing media spheres. and it's interesting to hear members of the united states senate sort of
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struggle to deal with the fact that this is the reality. this is who their their party's leader is. it's not where many of them are. and and remain. that's where they remain. they are in support of of ukraine's sovereignty. what are they going to do about it is, is, i think the constant question on the hill. >> well, uh, on that note, lindsey graham, one of the president's biggest supporters on capitol hill, one of the biggest supporters of defending ukraine and its war, trying to push back on russia, said the following. when it comes to blame for the russian invasion of ukraine. i blame putin above all others. well, let's just start there. that's first sentence he's trying to push back against president trump. then he goes on, though, to say, if you're looking for american politicians to blame, biden and obama are at the top of my list. they were pathetically weak in handling putin and failed to protect ukraine from invasion. and then he goes on from there. so he's trying to split the
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baby, mr. president, please don't blame ukraine because it was russia's fault. but then, you know, kind of give a little bit of a carrot, if you will, by also blaming democrats, except for the statement that just was released was a stick through and through when it came from. the president. now, we had heard from the senators was prior to this post on truth social by president trump, but they are trying to have it both ways, both through that statement. you read from. >> graham, but also. >> some that we heard. from cornyn, which is essentially this is still a priority, but it's also okay. >> for president. >> trump to push for the end of this war. it's almost a. softening of. position that has happened. >> against the backdrop. >> of not only what we saw play out in the last 24 hours, but. >> what has happened over the course. >> of days. defense secretary pete suggesting that concessions. >> would be. >> necessary when it came to nato and then and then walking that. >> back a little. >> bit, and then everything that happened thereafter. >> so this is republicans. >> to your point, mike, trying.
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>> to navigate. >> that this is. >> their leader. >> that their leader does have personal. >> animus against zelenskyy, but that they still have. >> deep concerns about putin. well, they have deep concerns about putin. the other thing that i don't want to lose sight of is that the american people have deep concerns about the u.s. involvement in the ukrainian war, and that is very much what donald trump is trying to play up. just for example, a poll that was taken at the end of 2024 from marquette law school. u.s. support for ukraine. this is just among republicans too much. 62% not enough 38%. so donald trump's party in the world, maybe not entirely here in washington, but in in the country, is behind him. but my question for you, jeff mason, and i also want to remind our viewers that if you kind of go in the wayback machine to the first trump administration, you were the one in helsinki who asked president trump whether he trusted
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vladimir putin. so you've been covering this from the jump. this whole relationship? yeah. um, so my question is, could the president, president trump, be pulling american support back from ukraine without totally jumping in on team putin and parroting vladimir putin the way he is? i mean, couldn't he have done one without the other? >> oh, i'm sure that he could have. >> but that's clear that that's not what he wants. i mean, he's he's realigning the united states and the u.s. government policy and relationship with putin to the to the detriment of allies, to the detriment of the european union, to the detriment of ukraine. i mean, he's he's placing him and that relationship and that country ahead. and what i asked in helsinki, i think back then, was also what do you do you blame russia at all for this? to the deterioration in this relationship. and i also asked putin back then if he had wanted trump to win. and he said yes. well, you can see why. um, he
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president trump back then and now, uh, has a lot of respect for autocratic leaders, as we know. and it's almost kind of rich to hear him calling president zelenskyy a dictator when you can see how he's treating president putin. >> yeah. all right, everybody, stand by. coming up, the most important relationship in the united states of america right now. that's right. it's president trump and elon musk. they sat for a joint discussion, let's call it last night. we're going to talk about that friend fest next. >> welcome back. >> have i got news for you. new saturday on cnn. >> want a next level clean swish with the whoa of listerine? it kills 99.9% of bad breath germs for five times more cleaning power than brushing and flossing alone. get a next level clean with listerine. feel the. whoa! >> i told you i don't need these anymore. i have sling. this
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>> this is going to be hard. i feel like i'm interviewing the two brothers here. >> i wanted to find somebody smarter than him. i searched all over. i just couldn't do it. i couldn't. >> i really tried hard. >> i couldn't find anyone smarter. >> my panel is back. listen, donald trump is not wrong. elon musk is really, really smart. and he's really, really successful in business and technology. duh. the question is how he is doing the work that he is doing. uh, in the federal government, not why he's doing it, but what he is doing and have real transparency there. and that was not what the purpose of this interview was. the purpose of this interview was to show that they actually really get along. and i think if that was what they want people to take away, the goal was reached. >> yeah. and look, i think we did actually learn something, i think, from this interview, which is uh, just. >> learned. >> a lot with just how deep, uh,
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the, the sort of admiration that donald trump has for elon musk. i think there was a lot of folks i include myself in them who thought maybe donald trump will get bored with elon musk after the first couple of weeks or even a month or two, uh, with having him around. and i think instead, trump sees a kindred spirit in elon musk, somebody who's not concerned with the details, who's not concerned even with necessarily being correct, but for taking action and whether that action is backed up by facts, whether that action, uh, has, you know, needs to be reeled back, as we've seen a lot of doj's actions having to be reeled back. you know, we heard about that. the nuclear scientists at the department of energy, for instance. um, i think what donald trump sees in elon musk is somebody like himself who takes action, who does things and then lets other people clean up after him. um, it's, uh, it's certainly a style, uh, and it's something i think, that trump admires. i
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don't know, i don't know how effective it's going to be long term. >> i mean. musk's totally musk's whole approach is if you don't break it, then you can't fix it. if you don't break the system, then you you can't create something new. but again, um, when it comes to the federal government and things that are supposed to be in place by law, there are lots of unanswered questions that elon musk still has out there. lots and lots of them. but just going back to the relationship, i want to play a little bit more of what the president said about that. >> elon called me. he said, you know, they're trying to drive us apart. i said, absolutely no. they said, we have breaking news. donald trump has ceded control of the presidency to elon musk. president musk will be attending a cabinet meeting tonight at 8:00. and i say it's just so obvious. >> you know, i thought that moment was so interesting because it's almost like elon
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proactively working this with president trump, someone who we know to be quite prideful. um, and sort. >> of, uh, making. himself smaller. >> and just making it about the work that he's doing, which is barreling through federal government. >> so i thought that was a sort of telling and how elon. >> is navigating and maybe controlling how this information is getting to. >> the president. >> because if you look on x, which is elon's. >> platform. >> or if you just. >> hear about the. >> relationship. >> he is making a lot of decisions that are. >> getting the headlines right now. >> and that is also. >> raising so many questions. you know, i to your. point again. >> uh. >> i spoke with a female official who is. >> they are. >> dealing with this right now with doge being in their offices. and they said there is no room here for context or nuance. >> it is slash slash. >> and i'll add something to what. >> you said earlier. >> it is ask for forgiveness, not permission. that is the space that they're operating in. and there is collateral damage. >> and we're seeing that with
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the rehires. >> but it doesn't matter. in the work. >> in the. >> work that they are. >> doing. >> even as there. are folks. i love that observation that, um, in that interview, elon musk tried to make himself look smaller, that he kind of gets the game. he's not known as somebody who picks up on social cues. so i don't know where that came from. but even his shirt, he wore a t shirt that said tech support, and he's trying to send a message to the president, i'm here for you. i'm here not to be you or to be more powerful than you, but you. let's talk about the conflicts, though, because there are conflicts. he has hundreds of millions of dollars in government contracts and his various. businesses. they talked about that. >> i asked. >> the president for anything ever. >> and if it comes up, how will you handle it? >> well. >> he won't be involved. >> yeah, i'll. i'll recuse. myself if it is. >> if there's a conflict, he won't be involved. i mean, i wouldn't want that and he won't want it. >> right. and obviously. >> i'm getting. >> a sort of a daily proctology
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exam here. you know, it's not like i'm going to be getting away from something in the dead of night. >> but he's not. there isn't a proctology exam, metaphorically speaking, at all, because we don't have a lot of the details. maybe hopefully at some point we will. but we're getting the information drip, drip, drip from the people who are getting fired and from the people who are getting told you're not going to get this money because this entire department or agency or line item that congress passed is now gone. >> yeah. i mean, he used that same language when he appeared with president trump in the oval office last week. i think it. >> seems like. >> it was. >> just a different universe ten years time ago. >> exactly. >> but that. >> was the first time he had been he took any questions from the press, was then with the president. and this interview or discussion is not exactly a hard hitting accountability driven discussion that the accountability is not what he's been putting himself out for, even though he suggests that he's getting that kind of scrutiny. >> i do want to listen to a few, or actually, i'm going to read a
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few quotes from republicans on capitol hill who are starting to hear from their constituents and starting to sort of raise their hand and ask questions in a way that we haven't seen for the past three weeks. don bacon from a very swingy district in nebraska before making cuts rashly, the administration should be studying and staffing to see what the consequences are. measure twice before cutting senator lisa murkowski. we all want efficiencies. there is a way to do it, and the way these people have been treated has been awful in many cases. chuck grassley, it's a tragedy for people that are getting laid off. congress can't do anything except complain about it. uh, okay. put a pin in that one. or do you want to just pick up on that one? that's actually not true. >> this is the congress is supposed to be the have primacy among the three co-equal branches of government. they hold the purse strings. um, they have the oversight authority on these sorts of things. um, this is a been a big question ever since doge. i mean, we've been asking at the dispatch. every
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reporter in washington has been asking these questions about, well, who who is in charge at this particular agency or department? where where is the flow of information and direction? how does it actually work? i mean, the white house communications office doesn't have really anything to say about what doge is doing, and i think it gets to the fundamental misunderstanding of what is valuable when you're talking about government, whether you're talking about building it up or cutting it, which is, uh, you know, accountability and information which is in and of itself inefficient, right? it's inefficient to try to go out and talk to reporters and bring us in on what's happening, so we can tell readers and viewers what's happening. um, that is a language that elon musk and i guess donald trump just don't speak. uh, and i think it's to the detriment, uh, and congress sort of waiting around for, i don't know, for elon musk to tell us what he's doing. um, they're going to be disappointed. i do think this
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kind of anger your or concern people are giving constituents to their lawmakers. that's going to be where the actual transparency ends up coming from. maybe not until the midterm election. >> if if. okay, everybody stand by. up next, the justice department inside the trump administration, of course, they want to drop all charges against new york city mayor eric adams. but first, they need a judge to approve it. that judge is going to decide yay or nay in the coming hours. >> cookbooks. >> corporate fat cats. swindling socialites, doped. >> up. >> cyclists, and yes, more crooked politicians. >> i have a feeling. >> we won't. >> be running out of those anytime soon. >> a new season of united states of scandal with jake tapper, march 9th on cnn. >> pronamel clinical enamel strength can help us to keep our enamel for a lifetime. it's backed by science. it is clinically proven to strengthen our teeth. i would recommend this toothpaste to everybody. it's really an amazing product.
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enforcement. a key policy priority of president trump. this raised concerns about a quid pro quo, caused a mutiny inside the department. over half a dozen prosecutors have resigned, including the trump appointed u.s. attorney here in manhattan. now today, to defend this decision, the acting deputy attorney general emil bove he will be in court today. he is the one who directed this case to be dismissed. he's made a lot of controversial moves. and i'm told by a source familiar with his thinking that he believes it's important to have a senior justice department official in court today to defend this decision. i'm also told that he is unbothered by the controversy and outrage that this move has prompted. so what we're looking for today, dan, is to see does the judge have just some tough questions for the justice department, or is there going to be a signal that it's possible this judge will reject this move to dismiss? it's a huge test for the judicial system and also for the trump administration.
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mexico border. the order labels migrants as risks for spreading diseases, and it could come as soon as this week. we are lucky to have priscilla still at the table with us. tell us about your reporting. >> this is ultimately one of a string of moves by this administration's administration to strengthen their posture at the us-mexico border, even as border crossings have plummeted to now less than 300 people a day, which is remarkable. as someone who has covered the border for a very long time. this order may sound familiar to people because it is a callback to the first administration and the public health authority known as title 42. at the time, the basis of it was the coronavirus pandemic, but it has always been an authority that trump adviser stephen miller has thought of and wanted to invoke. in fact, in 2023, in the new york times, he was already saying then that he wanted to find a basis to invoke this again. and i am told by sources that they are very much working toward that, and that we could see it as soon as this week. now, there are a lot of measures already implemented at the us-mexico border that make it
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extremely difficult for anybody to seek asylum. but as someone described this to me, it's almost like insurance. they know that they're going to face litigation for many of these measures, but there's so many layers now that it increasingly makes it difficult for anyone to come across the us-mexico border and to seek asylum. so, again, it's all part of this push to seal off the border. it is already far lower in crossings than it has been in a very long time, but certainly it would make it harder not only right now, but in the future. >> yeah, and just michael moore from priscilla's reporting, the u.s. is currently grappling with a measles outbreak in west texas. as of tuesday afternoon, the number of cases linked to the outbreak has grown to 58. but it isn't known whether there is a connection with the u.s. mexico border. >> and it doesn't seem to really matter to the white house. i mean, i think that this is part and parcel of stephen miller's certain certainly sort of pretextual approach. find any
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weapon at hand to achieve the the outcome that you want to achieve. and this is not, you know, limited to this presidency and this administration. this is something that lots of administrations do, but it's it's sort of on overdrive and really being driven, i think, by a sense that i mean, again, whatever, whatever you can do to achieve the goal that stephen miller and president trump has to seal off the border. um, however tenuous, however, it's not been sort of fully vetted. they're going to they're going to do that and probably be politically rewarded for it. >> also. >> just to draw a contrast between now and 2020, there is not a pandemic happening. the there's a there's a big difference between using that at the time, which was, as you rightly said in your story, was also controversial at the time. but there was a justification because of what was going on with the with the pandemic. that is not the case now. i also i'm glad you mentioned stephen miller, because i think this also underscores how powerful he is in this administration. he was in trump 1.0, but even more
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so in trump 2.0. >> he's blowing the doors off of that for sure. i don't want to lose sight of the promises made. meaning what trump promised the base in the election versus what they're actually doing now. they're only four weeks in. but i talked to tom homan. the borders are over the weekend. i know you do. reporting on this every minute, uh, about the fact that there is frustration that they are not getting their numbers up on the interior of the united states and finding more undocumented immigrants who fit that criminal background label. >> this is what happens, though, with any administration ambition on the campaign trail is going to meet the realities of the federal government. that's exactly what is happening with these interior arrests. it is extremely difficult to arrest as many people as they want, with the very limited resources and personnel they have, even if they have pulled every lever of government to shore that up. but it's also part of one bigger and broader agenda. and that's also important not to lose sight
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of. for example, we learned overnight that there are groups now that receive funds from the federal government to provide legal representation to children who cross the us-mexico border alone. well, they have stripped those funds. they have issued. >> a put the headline up order. >> and that essentially means that these kids who have arrived to the united states unaccompanied and usually have pro bono attorneys working with them, they're in immigration court now, and they may not have that legal representation. and to give you a visual, as someone who has covered this for a long time, uh, you see children in court, their feet do not touch the ground. that may not have legal representation to navigate what is a very complicated immigration system. and what they're trying to fight. >> is touch the ground, meaning little, little kids. >> little kids. um, because unaccompanied minors is is the whole gamut. until you get to 18. so this is going to have ramifications. i talked to one lawyer just before i got on the show who told me this is the worst case scenario, and this is
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the legal black hole that they have been talking so much about. >> all right. thank you so much for bringing all that new reporting. thanks to you guys. don't go anywhere because what? wait. there's more. we've got new reporting on another topic, a really important one. and that is the man donald trump wants to install as the top prosecutor here in washington, d.c. he is a right wing activist. he defended january 6th rioters, and he's already pushing an agenda of retribution. >> want a next level clean swish with the whoa of
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while bashing democratic critics and posting all about it on social media. and it worked. on monday, the president tapped ed martin to be dc's top prosecutor. cnn senior justice correspondent evan perez is here with some brand new reporting. evan, what do we know about him? >> well, look, i mean, this is a case where the crazy like a fox strategy may actually work, right? this is ed martin. he's a right wing activist from missouri. uh, was very, very big in this. stop the steal movement back in 2020 and is now you know, obviously he was put in place by president trump to be the acting u.s. attorney in washington. the plan, as i understand it, behind the scenes, was for him to come in and do and help do some of the initial cleanup of things that trump wanted, including, of course, pushing to get rid of the january 6th cases. perhaps getting started on this weaponization push. but he had other plans. he decided that he was going to perform and has actually now won the nomination
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for the job permanently. now, you know, behind the scenes, there was this whole effort. cully stimson, a respected conservative lawyer, was supposed to be the pick. the president even told people he was going to make cully stimson. stimson his his pick. but in the meantime, you saw what ed martin has been doing. one of the things he's been doing is very active on social media, but some of his memos have really gotten a lot of attention. you've seen ones where he's accusing critics of behind the scenes, of leaking some of his, uh, some of his memos, which, of course, then got promptly leaked. he's also written an office wide email suggesting someone may have stolen his gloves. you know, so that's the kind of colorful things we're getting behind the scenes. but there's a serious part of this. he has an agenda, which is absolutely part of this idea of retribution. we know he is now saying that he has permission to hire 20 people in that office. so he's gotten rid of a lot of people, a lot of the career people. and the plan here
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is that he's going to have loyalists to help carry out this agenda. >> and i just want to put up on the screen what he tweeted around 3:00 on january 6th, 2021. like mardi gras in dc today. love, faith and joy. ignore hashtag fake news. this is the guy who's going to be the top prosecutor in one of the most important jobs in the justice department, right? >> and they've made this office even more important because it has a lot of jurisdiction for crimes around the country. >> all right, evan, thank you so much. appreciate it. everybody should check out your story on cnn.com. thank you for joining inside politics today. cnn news central will start after a quick break.
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