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marks black history month as the administration simultaneously dismantles diversity, equity and inclusion programs across the federal government. cnn anchor victor blackwell is with us now on this story. and, victor, it's really hard to ignore the fact that trump's own executive order is changing how people observe. this month. >> you know, brianna, it's not. >> just inconsistent. >> it is a direct contradiction of what the president is doing through his executive orders. as his senior adviser, stephen miller, said today, pressuring the private sector as well to purge a diversity, equity and inclusion efforts. but let's talk about what's happening today. this was scheduled last week, but it was rescheduled because of inclement weather in washington. according to the associated press, some of the invited guests are south carolina republican senator tim scott, a michigan republican congressman john james, also alice johnson, who the president

pardoned in his first term. rapper kodak black, who the president also pardoned in his first term. and rapper boosie badazz, who is online now asking for a pardon from president trump as well. um, why is the president doing this? i think people who both support him and those who do not are asking that question. and as i said, it's this contradiction not only of his rhetoric, but of the executive orders on diversity, equity, inclusion and of other departments in the executive branch. i mean, consider on january 31st, when the president issued the proclamation calling for public officials to hold celebrations of black history month. within hours, the new defense secretary issued guidance saying that identity months dead at dod. same thing from the department of transportation and anything the president reads today, any statement he's handed or anything he says the impact is dwarfed by what he is doing through the purging of

diversity, equity and inclusion, casting it as some handout to black people instead of a guarantee of meritocracy, that it has always been. the president has banned dei in federal agencies, said they were immense public waste. all dei staff put on administrative leave called it illegitimate and immoral, illegal as well. so again, we have to ask why the president is doing this. we're just minutes away from the start of this. but objectively, the president's supporters and those who do not. i don't know who's looking to this president and this white house for some full throated appreciation for black people's contributions to american society. >> yeah, there are a lot of people missing from this celebration, we should note. victor blackwell, thank you so much. we appreciate it. and don't miss a new episode of first of all with victor blackwell. that will be every saturday at 8 a.m. eastern only

on cnn. >> a major shakeup could soon come to the pentagon. sources tell cnn there's a list going around with the names of top generals and admirals. the defense secretary, pete hegseth, may fire after he vowed to get rid of what he calls woke officials within the department. he's also ordering the military to prepare for deep budget cuts. let's take you now live to the pentagon with cnn's oren liebermann, who has more. oren, let's start with this list. first. do we know who's on it? >> boris, we do have a sense of who is on this list. i will say what's unclear is if this list is final or. >> definitive, there. >> are seven. names here to be fired. worth noting that three of them are women. perhaps the biggest. >> name on. >> this list is general, c.q. brown, the u.s .'s top military officer, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, secretary of defense pete hegseth, had called for him to be fired right around the election. so this appears to be him following through on what he said he was going to do just several weeks ago. now, again, unclear exactly

when this might happen. there are, of course, other names on this list. the head of the the head of the army, general randy george, as well as admiral lisa franchetti, the chief of naval operations. she was also targeted by hegseth. he said she was a d-i hire. now, secretary hegseth has met with brown. that is the top u.s. military officer several times on a regular basis. since brown since hegseth came into the job here. so the exact gripe here, well, that hasn't been made public at this point in terms of who will be promoted here. that is also on the list that we have seen from two sources, and that at least one of those is worth noting. admiral samuel paparo, the commander of indopacom, will be the new chairman of the joint chiefs. >> and or military leaders. now, just have days to tell hegseth how they plan to save billions from the defense department's budget. i think it's something like 8% a year for the next several years. what are you

hearing about those plans? >> for the next five years, to be exact, according to a memo from hegseth obtained by cnn. now, that doesn't affect the complete defense department, but it affects the vast majority of what the pentagon does. hegseth wrote that they should be prepared for 8% cuts over the course of the next five years, but it doesn't affect border security. the newest attack submarines, and several other high priorities for the defense secretary. >> oren liebermann, live for us at the pentagon. oren, thank you so much, brianna. >> and joining us now to talk about all of this is democratic senator richard blumenthal of connecticut. sir, thank you for being with us. and we're hearing from sources telling us, as we just heard, the report there, that hegseth could fire half a dozen general and flag officers soon who were seen as too political. what is your reaction to that? >> these reports are pretty shocking, brianna. >> because the. >> military is supposed to be above politics.

>> what secretary hegseth. >> seems to be doing is applying a political loyalty test to the top ranks of the military. these professionals career militaries reaching the top ranks, have devoted their lives to the country. they put their lives at risk, and they have the allegiance of the troops and sailors and airmen under them. it is a blow to our professional military for a political loyalty test to be applied to the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, or the head of the navy, lisa franchetti. and i've worked with these individuals. i know them to be people of integrity and the utmost professional dedication to our military and our national defense. >> what about the budget cut piece of what he wants to do, calling in this new memo for military leaders to provide percent cuts each year for the next five years. >> 8% cuts every year, or even

just one year, will have a dramatic, deleterious and damaging effect on our readiness and preparedness for the threats that are only increasing around the world. they are likely to be met with stern, steadfast opposition on both sides of the aisle here. we've been calling for increased investments in the types of weapons platforms, advanced training, a.i., cyber, other kinds of defense investments that are vital to our national security. we have yet to see the details, but i can say you unequivocally that the opposition is likely to be deep, dramatic and pretty enduring on both sides of the aisle. >> do you see what he is saying as maybe sort of an opening salvo in a bit of a negotiation that ultimately wouldn't be that

much? i mean, why not scrutinize the pentagon budget and expenditures? it's never passed an audit. i know you hear from some of your constituents who will, you know, without knowing the details. they they like to use the refrain that the pentagon budget is just too big. >> and there is room for improvement and elimination of waste. but what elon musk and his tech bros are doing, essentially, is to lay waste to departments and agencies across the government. the secretary of defense has a really sacred obligation to look carefully and thoughtfully at the line items and where spending can be successfully cut. i have a few ideas, and i've advanced them in the armed services committee where i sit. but across the board, draconian cuts are unacceptable. we need a scalpel, not a meat ax. and this approach

is likely to provoke very strong, robust competition opposition on both sides of the aisle. >> so as you note, you're also on the va committee. so you're aware and you're watching these cuts at the va. and also i know you're aware that almost a third of the federal workforce is composed of veterans. the federal workforce and many administrations, including the trump administration, have purposely tried to bring them in to the workforce. and we're talking about veterans who are getting clobbered by these firings and other overhaul moves. what are you all on the committee talking about doing about it? i'm sure there is bipartisan concern here. >> well, i'm hopeful that there will be bipartisan concerns. so far, republicans have been strenuously silent and unforgivably, in my view, on the sidelines. we have raised these issues in more than 20 letters that i've sent to the va secretary, as the ranking

member, as i am on the va committee demanding answers because the ones getting clobbered and a thousand people have been fired are the probationary employees, many of them younger veterans who are coming to the va with future careers of serving our veterans and the ones being hurt are the veterans themselves. we're receiving reports from all around the country about cardiology, mammograms, mental health services being delayed or denied, benefits being not. >> because of the. >> cuts, the pack act because of these cuts. we're receiving reports of services being delayed or denied, and they are essential. for example, the veterans crisis line suicide prevention efforts, these kinds of services literally are often a matter of life and death. and our veterans who are our heroes and have served our country, need and deserve better. that's

why i have urged that these cuts in in spending and the hiring freezes be rescinded. >> yeah, they let some of those crisis line folks go trying to get them back. i do also want to talk to you about the faa, because you wrote a letter that was obtained by cnn to the transportation secretary, sean duffy, and you asked for the reversal of firing of staff there. the acting faa administrator said in an agency wide memo. i want to assure you the agency has retained employees who perform safety critical functions. do you take him at his word? >> absolutely not. the individuals who have been fired, nearly 400 of them, we believe are the aeronautical information specialists, air safety. personnel, maintenance of radar experts. these kinds of safety

critical personnel are maybe not the ones in the tower, but they make the air controllers job work. and so we've asked for information from the secretary of transportation, sean duffy. we've also asked him to reverse these cuts in the personnel. it is exactly the wrong time to be cutting air safety personnel. after the recent spate of crashes that we've seen in reagan airport, nome, alaska. philadelphia, toronto, some of them tragically fatal. and what they're doing is further undermining public confidence in air safety, even though it may be. safe. the near collisions and the crashes make this time absolutely the worst to be doing these cuts in air safety personnel. there's no question that they are there for a reason

to make the air controllers job effective and are safety assured. >> yeah, big questions about what kind of support staff they are. senator richard blumenthal, thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you. >> still to come, president trump's national security advisor, mike waltz, says the administration is frustrated with ukrainian president zelenskyy and says that the war of words being hurled from kyiv towards d.c. are unacceptable. he could not answer a question about who is more responsible for the war ukraine or russia. plus, new cnn polling on president trump's approval one month after returning to the white house. we'll have that ahead. >> welcome back. >> have i got news for you? new saturday on cnn. >> tap into etsy for original and affordable home in style pieces like lighting under $150 to brighten your vibe. for under $100. put your best look forward

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we know all that. it's a fact. that's who started the war. to say that somehow ukraine started the war would be like saying the united states started world war two when the japanese attacked us at pearl harbor. it just fails. the obvious common sense test. and then secondly, talking about, uh, zelenskyy as a dictator also just doesn't add up. he's duly elected. he's quite popular in his country. all the polling i've seen has him at 55 to 57% popularity quite high, particularly for the leader in the middle of a very tough war. and they haven't had an election. it's been postponed due to the exigencies of war, which is in accord with their constitution. so no, i don't see zelenskyy as a dictator, nor do i think there is any doubt whatsoever about who started this war. it's a. direction of the dictator

vladimir putin. >> admiral, uh, the backdrop of these comments today at the white house was this meeting between u.s. special envoy keith kellogg and president zelenskyy. how would you assess this meeting? what did you make of the fact that there was no press conference after? >> i think it's somewhat worrisome, but at this stage, i'm just happy to see engagement by lieutenant general retired keith kellogg, who is a very steady hand. he knows war. he knows europe well. he was deputy national security advisor during trump one, and i also am, uh, happy to see national security advisor mike wallace, secretary of state marco rubio and steve witkoff, who is the middle east envoy but is doing duty on this. i'm all for engagement, but we have to do it with a clear eyed view of what's happening. and i'll

conclude with this, boris, if you kind of step back from this, who is who is going to gain if ukraine ultimately collapses and is conquered by vladimir putin, it will be not only vladimir putin who will end up with an additional 40 million, uh, national servants to his cause in the form of the ukrainians. also, china will become emboldened in taiwan. the global south. india, brazil, nigeria, pakistan, they're all watching how this is going to come out. and finally, our allies will come away extremely discouraged with the resiliency of the united states. >> i wonder, admiral, how you think the world would see specifically, our allies would see any kind of brokered deal between the united states and ukraine when it came to these rare earth minerals. donald trump saying that he he wants some kind of, uh, payback,

essentially some reciprocity in his eyes from ukraine for the investment that the u.s. has made in ukraine's defense. and he doesn't want americans to feel stupid. his words for that investment. how do you think the world reads that sort of transactional deal? >> yeah, you've used the right word, boris. it's transactional. and, uh, it's of a piece with, uh, president trump's long stated views about how the united states should pressure our allies to. that, uh, how we ought to get, uh, reasonable advantages out of our engagements with our partners globally. but this can all be done as a win-win at the end of the war. um, if those strategic minerals are going to be exploited, that can be done in a win-win way between the united states and the ukrainians. um, the idea that it's a kind of a payment scheme, i think is going

to be very difficult to sell in terms of the u.s. place in the world. and i think this also brings us to the point of discussing what are the allies, particularly the european allies, going to do in the face of all this, boris? and, um, here, i think ultimately they will step up. they'll spend more. they've already spent more than we have on the war in ukraine. we've spent about 100 billion. they've spent about a 160 billion. i think they'll be willing to take even more of that. but let's do it together. let's work with our allies. let's work with the ukrainians and create a win-win that avoids ukraine falling to a conqueror like the dictator vladimir putin. >> admiral james stavridis, thank you so much for sharing your perspective. >> thanks, boris. >> coming up next, after exactly one month in office, there's new cnn polling showing president trump's approval rating is

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incredibly important is if you look at that 88% approval rating right now from republicans with donald trump, it just goes to show you that he still has support not only of half the country, but he's got basically his full party behind him. >> 11% of democrats, though, that's still really interesting, even though it's only 11%. he is slipping with some groups that he did make some very noteworthy progress with that propelled him towards the white house. that would be young people, hispanic americans, black americans. what are you reading in this? >> well, let's take a look at those numbers as we see them up there right now. you would expect this right away because, look, donald trump promised that he would fix everything on day one. and younger people are going to tend to believe him, right, because they want action quickly. that's what they expect. older people tend to be a little bit more deliberate and understanding that things take time. that's why you're seeing some slippage there amongst young people. but also look at you're also seeing, you know, these deportations aren't

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exploiting emotional sensitivities of yarden, blaming the israeli government for their deaths. the idf called it psychological terror. months later, this security camera video captured by the idf, appearing to show shiri soon after her abduction, but until this day, the idf, unable to confirm the fate of the family, cautioning against hamas statements. when jordan was finally freed by hamas three weeks ago, everyone in israel understood the heartbreaking news awaiting him, his father and sister consoling him against the near certainty of his loss along the convoy route thursday, flag waving israelis paid their respects. hostage. square, somber, not celebratory. as with previous releases, white vans

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political commentator and former communications director for vice president harris jamal simmons, and cnn political analyst and host of the conversations with coleman podcast. coleman hughes. jamal, your reaction to this celebration at the white house today? >> and where the president is having a celebration for black history month. listen, just to be fair, if he was not having a celebration for black history month, i think a lot of people would be upset about that. so you got to give him credit for doing it. the challenge for us all, though, is who is he celebrating? i mean, some of the folks who he has up there are folks that haven't really been at the forefront of advancing rights for african americans. but, you know, the president is having a celebration. let him do it. there are far more troubling things happening today, like some of the confirmations on the hill that matter a lot more than a party for a few friends. >> i also wonder, coleman, what you make of the disparity between trump having this event at the white house and then this executive order that let dod declare that identity months

were dead. i wonder how you balance those two facts. >> yeah, well, i think. >> he's made clear. >> what his. >> intentions were today. the reason it's been so confusing up until now is because trump decided to release a flurry of executive orders and flood the zone without really checking, you know, crossing all his eyes and dotting or rather, crossing his t's and dotting his eyes on every executive order. so there was a lot of confusion, and a lot of people thought he was actually getting rid of black history month. but that's been made clear now. really, what we know his intentions were as of today is keep black history month. you know, the air force can keep teaching about the tuskegee airmen. all of these important aspects of black history can stay in the culture. but he wants to get rid of d.e.i. by which he means really racial discrimination. >> so, coleman, when, you know, we've heard reports, um. >> well, come. >> on. >> coleman, is not racial

discrimination. d.e.i. is making sure people of different backgrounds are included in american society, which is exactly what it is. we ought to want in a country that's becoming more diversified. we want to make sure we have the best people on the field, the best people on our team. and we are fortunate because we've got people from all over the world who can participate. so i think anybody who is against having everybody participate is somebody who's not really honoring the america of today. >> coleman, your response? >> it's one thing to say everyone should participate. it's another thing to say, as a university in texas did, i think two years ago, we're going to hire a professor for this role. and we are only going to consider professors who are black, right? that's hiring based on race or promoting based on race. it's been illegal since 1964. and when people react against dei, a lot of what they're reacting against is that. >> i wonder, jamal, what you make of that argument. >> well, we don't want to have quotas, right? because i don't

want the quota to say that once we have one, we can't have two. but the problem has been, why is it that they probably don't have as many as they want? i did a paper a few years ago called the 4% problem. and the problem is that across, uh, across all of the verticals of american life, whether it's law or the military or or universities, we can't seem to get more than 4% of any leadership class to be african american. that is a real challenge. and so today, what we're wrestling with is the defense secretary, pete hegseth, talking about taking people out. flag officers, generals, admirals taking them out of the military because they support dei. i think what happened in the last trump administration is we cut the number of african americans and women down from the senior leadership down to really low numbers. and then president biden actually was able to increase those numbers by two and three fold. so that is what's important, because we think in a military that's 40% people of color, we ought to be able to have people of color in the leadership.

>> i do wonder, coleman, as we've gone over some new cnn polling, it finds that support for trump among young hispanic and black voters slightly dipping since he took office roughly around, uh, nine, 7% or so. i do wonder, actually, considerably larger than that among hispanics, it looks like. sorry, i'm terrible at math. it is 9% sorry. uh, i do wonder, though, um, if you think that some of these folks who are saying that trump has handled the presidency in ways that they did not expect is going to continue reverberating forward? how much of that do you think has to do with the gutting of dei programs, for example? >> it's a good question. you know, dei programs mostly affect elites. we're talking about the top colleges, corporate america, really working class people are far less affected by dei

programs one way or the other. so i do find it very hard to believe that dei programs and his approach to it are the reason why his numbers are dipping. that said, um, you know, trump has a lot of flaws as a speaker, as a communicator, as a leader. and and it doesn't surprise me at all that his numbers would dip both with blacks and hispanics and with whites. in the long run. >> you would make the case, coleman, that a lot of it has to do with the rhetoric. then. >> it may, you know, i really don't have a good theory now. i think we'll know more in the coming months. >> jamal, obviously, these are folks that historically. yeah. go ahead. >> well, here's the challenge, boris. what we know is that when latino owned businesses get contracts, they tend to hire more latinos. when women owned businesses get contracts, they tend to hire more women. when african-american owned businesses get contracts, they tend to hire more african-americans, right. this is not the math is not hard. so if we're trying to address the idea of everybody getting to participate, it does matter when the when the largest contractors in the country, which is the

federal government, says that we're no longer interested in hiring people who don't, who come from diverse backgrounds. i think we want them to go out and look for it. i'm not for quotas. i don't think we should have them. but i do think when you're looking for african american staff, maybe you should go to historically black colleges and universities and see if you can find some folks who can also do the same job that they could do at some of the historically, you know, white serving institutions. let's just broaden the tent and get everybody in and not exclude people. >> and jamal, when it comes to those, uh, demographics that i mentioned earlier, historically, large majorities of african-americans, young people and latinos have supported the democratic party. when you've seen this slippage in the last election and now you see a diminishment in the numbers over about a month of trump in office, do democrats have a plan to win those voters back? >> listen, democrats need to be on the job about coming up with positive agenda that's going to make a change for people. i mean, i think one thing that we ought to be focusing on is

what's happening with the post covid learning loss, right? that's affecting everybody all over the country. so democrats have got good ideas for how do we change education, not just save the education department, which is important, but what would we do differently if we were in charge? i think democrats have got to come up with that, and that's going to help win some of those voters back. people aren't satisfied with the way the country is working. they want democrats and republicans alike to get at it. the problem with donald trump is he's not trying to fix things. they're trying to break things. and that's the real challenge that i think americans are having with what's happened over the last month. it doesn't look orderly. they're firing faa, uh, scientists. they're getting rid of cdc folks while the bird flu is happening. that just doesn't seem like it makes a lot of sense. >> jamal coleman, we have to leave the conversation there. we're going to keep monitoring this black history month event at the white house. and we'll be right back. >> sale through the heart of historic cities and unforgettable scenery with viking. unpack once and get closer to iconic landmarks,

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