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say, who reallstarted it? we're keeping them honest. also tonight, dr.anjay gupta in texas, in thmiddle of the worst outbreak of measles there decades. and later, we watch these childr being kidnaped by hamas on october 7th. today, their bodies finally came home. but israel says the casket allegedly holding their mother's remains doesn't have hebody or y othehostag body inside.ood eving. than for jning us. wbegin toght keing th honest with something that sounds small but sa a lot. late tay, we learned that therump admistrati is resting a reference to russian aggression. in atateme from e g7 cotries. that doment would mark the upcoming third anversary next week of rsian ukraine. this is a sea asion change. la year's version from the g7 res in part, we call orussia to immediely is is what the state ession. and department put o at the time athe unid natis, that the title reads.oint stement condning rsia's war

aggression against ukraine. and ju to be totally clear, it's hard targue at what russia diwas dinot meet the textbook definion of aggrsion, which, according to the ited nations, is the use of armed fce by a state against the sovereignty, territorial integritor political indendencef another state.ow, ruia tanks and troops on ukinian teity, russian air strikes on ukrnian cies, rsian atrocies agast ukrainian civilis. for almost three years w, we've watched that. tha's aggression. and somehow the administtion cannot ev call it what iis. bubefore playing you some of what it is saying instead, i want to go back almost 35 years to anher republican president. >> this will not stand. this will not stand, this aggressio against kuwait. >> that was the firspresident bush talng abo iraq's invasion of kuwait in the summer of 1990, calling it what it was, poedasnit, thoh, the. as we prident s no tuble calling his ukrainian counrpart sothing he is not. >> a dictator without ection

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of atable obe, bter goo ukrae. ty bett go to ar, a murder andesponsle fothe dehs of hundredsf thounds of ukrainians. >> whi is onway of warning the president he ss he supports. ere's not a lot of reblicans that are standing up ansayingomething like that. here's another whis from nikki haley, w served as his u.n. ambassador in theirst administration, who also supports the president. just n on this. ambassador hay tweetelast nht, the are clasc russn talkg pots. exactly what pin wan. metime, e vict of ruian agessionukrainn esident volodymyr lenskyy and his countr he mewith u.s. envoy keith kellogg and said the conversation, quote, restore hope. end quote. joining us w, cnn's kaitlan collins. and from kyiv, cnn nick paton walsh. so, caitlin, we heard you trying to get a straight answer with the national security adviser. it's basically now the position of the white house. that or is it the position of the white hoe that ukraine is to blame for

getting itself invaded by russia, or that by wanting to be not under the thumb of russia and ultimately join nato, that they caused this war? >> well, 's a fascinating moment for for the preside's, somef his top national security advisers, people like mike waltz or the secretary of state, marco rubio, who have beenretty outspoken that that russia is to blame for this and that putin is to blame for this. and they've wtten extensively, extensively about it. they were critical of biden's policies when it came to ukraine, saying that there needed to be an end goal, but they never made or waffled or wavered on who exactly it was happened in ukraine. and mike waltz is someone who has written extensively about this. i was quoting from one op ed that he wrote two years ago, in the fall of 2023, about this, but there are numerous other moments and instances where you can read comments from people like mike waltz or marco rubio, essentially sayi that, yes, putin is obviously to blame for this war, as everyone knows, but it was remarkablto hear him not simply restate that fact that he has said many times

there in the briefing room today, but obviously doingo would put him in a point of conflict with the president himsel who is now suggesting repeatedly that it was ukraine at is to blame for this war. d it is ukraine that started this war when we know it was russia that invaded. and the real question that is raised is what that means for ukraine in ese negotiations, because there was never really a lot of love lost for zelenskyy between trump and that administration. but what's so clear now is they are becoming increasiny frustred witzelensy and argug thate is bng doright srespeful tohe adnistraon. i'll rind pele thawhen hspoke t thother y, that was afr trp had ggestethat iwas his own countrthat w to ble for artinghis wa and it is real estion now with keithelloggas youan see ere, trump's envoto day, wt this looksike iv gog forwd, i wl notee dinot he from om eitr of thtwo peop you s speakg pectedo be aress ereas ailabity andhere wn' aftejust ging you a sense

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of what they do here to try and takeut some ofheussian drones that me nightly. andeon. >> yh. um, caitlinjust briefly, i mn, i tnk one of the many important tngs nick poind out that this meeting withelloggit wa't abt fureitas abo we it was a like aive usalf yo rare eah minels forhat have in prior admistratns gen you. a then ' figurout ings later. i mean, this was a,ike a clawback. >> 'veeen taing toeople abt thisand obously there's a very different view inside the trump administration of that deal. and essentially ukraine sits on these these rare earth minerals that are incredibly valuable and that the u.s. has been working on programs to essentially be able to access more of them. they've struggled with it. they're very valuable. they could be worth an incredible amount of money and certain amount of value to the united states. and so what they're asking for is the rights to to 50% of this. we'll see what actually comes out. if this agreement is something that they agree to. they've talked about investment in ukraine as a

result of this. i think there's still a lot of questions about what exactly that looks like and what those guarantees would be, if any security guarantees would be attached to this as this. >> it's not like saying they're talking about like troops in a peacekeeping force or anything like that. the president's already taken that off the table. >> right. and so that's the question. they keep pushing that back to europe, saying that maybe europe can provide those security guarantees. but obviously europe would then be looking potentially to the united states as a backstop on those security guarantees. and to european leaders are coming here next week. but on that deal itself, i will say, i talked to people this morning about this. they were irritated that zelenskyy rebuffed it essentially out of hand, saying he couldn't sell ukraine right away. they are hopeful, though, that something will get signed, so that is something to keep an eye on to see. does that change? how does it change, and what could he potentially ultimately agree to? >> all right, kaitlan collins, thanks, nick paton walsh and i appreciate it. and, caitlin, we'll seeou at the top the hour f t source. you have a conversati with senator lisa slotkin of michigan. joining us now is minnesota democratic senator amy klobuchar. senator, i me, if white house officials

wanted to walk back esiden trump's comments about zelenskyy beg a diator a blaming him for starting the war, they obviously could ha done that. they're not going to, um, where are n this? >> well, first of all, we have got an incredible group of allies that are standing up wi ukine. that's our european allies. they have given over $50 billion in military asstance, er $100 billion in other assistance in total. and they've also taken in refugees. now, we have played a major role in this, and we must continue. everyone kw that this war at some point, as all wars would end with some kind of negotiation. but you don't give away the store at the very beginning. and that is what president trump diby literally attacking zelenskyy, someone w has eaed the respect of everyone in the world for how he hastood up for his country. on one side, you have got russia. that is pairing up with china

and north korea and iran. and then we have america a ukraine and poland and our allies. and so i was actually i guesi shouldn'have been shocked based on the last administrati, what he did, but that he did this so quickly that he tried to undermine zelenskyy. but i continue to have faith that there are people in congress of both parties that are going to stand up and say, and ukraine, i mean, i would g understand why his national security advisermike waltz, would decline to even reaffirm his own previous condemnation of cause at wou, uh, u out , know, that would wall know what what the impact of that would be on his laonship withresident trump. um, but but, i mean, nobody in this administration seems willing to to say even the word aression. ey're afraid they're going to get thrown out for telling the truth. and i know you have

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analyst, new york times senior political correspondent and trump biographer maggie haberman. so, maggie, one month into president trump's new term, obviously a lot on his plate. the war in ukraine doge pushing out his perceived enemies from the justice department. is it clear how you i mean, do you know how the president thinks it's going? i would assume he thinks it's going pretty well. >> he's quite happy, anderson. i mean, i think there are things that he worries about. you know, inflation is clearly one. you've heard him talk about that a number of times. his advisers certainly are worried about that, because for all of the measures he's taken so far, there aren't any that really directly impact voters in terms of their their pocketbooks and their lives, you know, in their in their homes. you know, the price at grocery stores and so forth. but he has done most of what he said he was going to do. there was a plan to come in with this shock and awe campaign on a number of fronts, and he's done it. and he's very happy about the hostage exchanges, and he's very happy about a number of things. but there's also a sense of, you know, when you flood the zone, then it's very

hard for anything specific to stick out and stick. and i think you are seeing the administration try to highlight certain things that are not just answering questions about what doge is up to. >> he's also gotten pretty much his the nominees he wanted through through congress. >> yeah, i mean, congress has done extremely little to push back in any real respect. and by congress, i really mean the congressional republicans and senate republicans. there were there was a moment where it looked as if pete hegseth would be in trouble for defense secretary, and that was where the trump team, with a lot of allies in the broader both maga movement and historical conservative movement, moved in to really aggressively make basically an example of senator joni ernst, if she did not come on board. and so that is his approach to a number of things, is making examples of specific people. and you can see that on a number of fronts, whether it is with media coverage, with this fight with the associated press, or whether it is, you know, on foreign policy with

vladimir zelenskyy. that is how he is approaching this term, because he can because there is really nobody stopping him from the checks and balances perspective. >> i am fascinated by this deal. he wants to take half of ukraine's rare earth minerals. >> so his approach to foreign policy is almost always trade based and economic based. and he has a very mercantilistic perspective toward everything. and so he yes, he looks at it, as, you know, the u.s. should be repaid for what he thinks it should not have spent on ukraine defense. but the approach that the u.s. has taken to suggest that this is why ukraine should come to the table. that was a phrase that was said in the briefing room today over and over again. make ukraine come to the table. there's two separate tables. there's one table that the u.s. is having with russia, and then there's a different table that the u.s. is having with ukraine. and ukraine is at a pretty big disadvantage at that table. >> what do you hear from people in the white house from around? i mean, are they happy with what

the president is doing? >> it depends on who you talk to. i mean, most people within the administration are overall happy with what trump is doing. there are a number of people, both inside and outside the administration, who were less than thrilled with him, saying that that ukraine started the war. you know, there there are certain remarks that he has made related to russia in terms of what are clearly concessions that doesn't thrill everybody. but in general, you know, what you hear people say is this is what he ran on. he didn't explicitly run on doing things this way in terms of stopping the war. he did run on stopping the war, and he made clear that he was a foreign aid skeptic. so in that perspective, from that perspective, people shouldn't be surprised. but there are things that, you know, some in his administration wish he was doing differently and some are having trouble, you know, explaining about what the broader aim is. >> starting with kara swisher the other night, she said at first she thought the president and elon musk were destined to have some sort of falling out sooner than later. now she thinks musk has figured out how to be around the president for the long haul. what is your

sense of how that relationship is going and his role? >> well, yeah, the long haul is long with with donald trump until it isn't long anymore. it's definitely true that musk is in a better place with him now than at points during the transition, when trump felt like he was around mar-a-lago too much. now he's actually doing things as opposed to just sort of, you know, being at the club and talking to people while trump was having meetings and dinners. trump sees him as enacting things that trump likes. i think what gets lost here to anderson is how much political heat elon musk is absorbing. that really is for actions that trump has authorized. but elon musk has become the focus. and so trump and a lot of his advisers see elon musk as a useful heat shield. i think that if you start seeing as one of them said to me, elon musk's popularity rising and donald trump's falling, that may become when the long haul shortens. >> interesting. maggie haberman thank you so much. appreciate it. thank you. coming up next, we have breaking news about the handover of the remains of israeli hostages held by hamas, two of whom have been confirmed as kfir and ariel bibas, the

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>> i mean, it's stunning. >> i don't know what they. >> thought when they. >> put. >> the body of somebody else in a coffin and said that it was the mother of two kids that have been brutally murdered. whether they thought israel wouldn't find that or not. but it's absolutely stunning. >> israel. according to israel, there's also evidence that the children were murdered. um, hamas had earlier, months ago made a statement that they had been killed in an israeli airstrike. do you know anything more about what israel has found out? >> the israelis called us. they called me. they called steve witkoff. secretary of state mike waltz, uh, just before these, uh, news reports came out, just before they released it. and they said that forensic evidence definitively proved that those two kids, those two boys were brutally murdered. um, in november. so a month after, uh, they were taken. um, and they said that forensic evidence

confirmed that. >> if the israeli assessment is accurate and shiri bibas body was not handed over, would u.s. and israeli officials view that as a violation of the cease fire deal? because, i mean, yeah, would that be a violation besides being horrific? i mean, just a horrific act. >> that's i mean, like you said, anderson, it's horrific. it's a clear violation. um, and if i have one piece of advice for hamas now, it's not only do you need to release her body immediately, but we have the bodies of four americans, uh, that are still there. and we have one american, edan alexander. i think you know his family well. and you've done a great job reporting on it. he needs to come home. and if i were them, i'd release everybody. or they're going to face total annihilation right now. >> what? what options do the israelis have at this point to to find shiri bibas? >> i think right now they need to demand through every country that's coordinating. uh, and

they need to go out. uh, and the question here, and this is the question i've asked myself, why would they do this? um, and i think probably the answer is she was so brutally murdered that she's being hidden or the body has been disposed of, and they probably cannot give her back. >> i mean, do you think they i mean, did they think that the israelis would not do testing on the remains? i mean, i don't understand the thought process here. >> it's completely ridiculous. and the reality here is this is the truth right now with hamas. you have very few people left. and by the way, anderson, this was actually a particularly militant splinter group off of hamas. um, and so these these are particularly difficult. you're talking about the worst of the worst here. when you're talking about worse than hamas. um, but, you know, these are people that can brutally murder a nine month old younger when the kid was murdered. uh, and somebody that would be for, uh.

and so they're. i wouldn't say they're sophisticated people. they're brutal murderers. um, and they didn't think through it. quite frankly, i'm sure or didn't know what to do. >> um, adam boehler, i really appreciate the work you do. thank you. >> thanks, anderson. >> with this news as the backdrop, i want you to know a little bit more about ariel and kefir. their mom and their story, which is now, as it has been for so long, written in tears. on that day of sickening slaughter, this horror stood out shiri bibas cornered, captured, clutching her two children, four year old ariel and nine month old kefir. more than 40 other residents of their kibbutz, nir oz, including sheri's parents, were murdered that day. but sheri and her kids were taken into gaza. this surveillance footage, released later by the idf, shows shiri and her children being covered. sheri's husband, yaron was captured as well, beaten by a crowd, his head bloodied. he ended up captive in gaza, to.

>> where small. >> family and half of them are kidnaped. >> half of your family? >> yeah. >> i met with sheri's cousin a few days after the kidnaping. she was desperate for word of shiri and yarden and their children. >> i want to know that they are being fed. if their diaper was changed, if he forgot his formula, his bottle, something to eat. this is the only thing. that i can do. this is the only thing that helps me be sane right now is sitting here with you and talking to reporters. and showing their faces and telling their story. i want my family back. please. i want my family back. i'm trying to be strong and stoic and. and speak clearly. but i'm devastated.

i'm devastated. i'm devastated. i understand. i don't know what else to do. we need the institutions from the world. we need someone to take care of those captive people. civilians. every hour, every day. it's getting worse. i want my family there. by any chance, are watching this? i want them to know that we love them. and we're doing everything we can to get them. >> her family heard nothing for almost two months. then hamas claimed the children and their mother were killed in an israeli airstrike. and her family didn't know what to believe. >> 53 days of not knowing nothing about shiri yarden and ariel. nothing. nothing. even the hostages that were released,

no one saw them. uh, nothing. it's. i don't know if a nightmare is even the best way to describe the situation that we are living. >> after 484 days held captive, yarden bibas was released this month, embraced by his parents. he had no wife and children to come home to. and now this hamas who stole the children and their mother today, using them once again for propaganda, staging a public spectacle for coffins put on display. they said they held the remains of shiri bibas, her two children and another hostage, journalist oded lifshitz. hamas gunmen handed them over to the red cross. back on israeli soil. the return was more dignified. mourners came to see the motorcade and pay their respects. hours later, however, more heartbreak. israel's military confirmed oded lifshitz remains were in a casket, as

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>> so many of the people who get infected with measles, who get sick and need to be hospitalized are children. so we're here at covenant children's, and i want to give you an idea of how this works over here. somebody pulls up even before they go inside the hospital. they'll actually get evaluated in this shed out here. they want to determine if someone actually has measles. they need to be put into personal protective gear and then taken inside the hospital. >> we've had. >> over 15 patients admitted here in our children's hospital with measles over the past several weeks. >> doctor laura johnson is the chief medical officer here. how do you even begin to approach as a patient comes in? what do you what do you do for them? >> most of the patients who've been admitted have had respiratory issues. they've been needing supplemental oxygen and respiratory support to help them get over the viral pneumonia part that we see with measles. >> it's one thing to treat

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the united states, started in 1789. and this ability to deputize people goes back to, you know, when marshal dillon had to go after jesse james and round up the posse, right. um, this is a very different use of that authority. >> how long do you think this would be in effect? i mean, if he stopped, you know, his doge service. um, and, you know, went back to to just being elon musk. would the would that continue? probably not. >> well, i mean, it's up to the director of the u.s. marshals service who right now is acting, who has that authority. but i would imagine this is coming through the white house. >> um, but it's not like he could sort of. yeah. i mean. >> i don't think he can. i don't think he could keep them past his government service if anybody was looking. >> uh, and we, we don't know how many of his detail have actually been deputized. >> don't know. >> yeah. like much else surrounding what's going on with elon musk. >> bit of. >> a mystery. yeah. john miller, thank you very much. i