sitting there at 9:00 in the morning having breakfast when someone noticed him. and then, of course, he was arrested and charged with various offenses, fake i.d., having the firearm, et cetera. but he was then extradited, meaning brought back to new york. and that's where the crime happened. alleged crime as it related to the see. the chief executive officer. so i think that new york state will go first. right. because they have jurisdiction potentially. we'll see a federal prosecution depending upon what happens in that case. and i think pennsylvania will get last priority just based on the nature of the offenses that were committed there, which, again, was the fake i.d. having the firearm itself lying to the police and related charges. but new york, i think. >> there are so many bits of evidence that the public has already seen. we will have to, you know, watch what happens. but obviously the defense is going to try to get some of that kicked out of court on whatever bounce. >> yeah. >> reasons that they can't.

>> correct. >> that's right. so what happens, sarah, is that once you get the discovery and everything else, then you go into because it's not like the movies where all of a sudden there's a trial the next day, there's a lot of component parts that have to happen, and there's part of that component parts. they'll challenge the evidence. we'll see what hearings are issued or not. and then after all of this takes place, we will then have a trial. we're not there yet. i don't think we're close to being there yet. >> yes, there's a lot more to do. and i would just like to say with the shot of you standing there, you look like judge joey. i feel like that could be a show. so we'll talk about that later. where's my look at that? like, you definitely have judge vibes this morning. i am so glad to see you and i am not judging you. i will let you judge me, mr. joey jackson. appreciate it. and you, our cnn news central starts right now. >> more mass firings are coming. a federal judge ruling. ruling gives a green light for the trump administration to move ahead with the federal purge for now, and dissent among the

world's richest nations. president trump's refusal to say the words russian aggression now causing a major rift between g-7 nations. and an amazon employee being hailed a hero after a delivery driver risked her life to save a family from a burning home. i'm kate bolduan with john berman and sara sidner. this is cnn news central. >> kyung lah. >> all right. in the white house with a chainsaw. but no colonel mustard. the breaking news this morning, word that president trump is preparing to wipe away the leadership of the independent u.s. postal service and absorb it directly into the trump administration. this was first reported by the washington post. this has huge implications for political patronage, huge implications for all the packages and valentines you get in the mail, but also for the future of this independent service that the washington post notes, ranks as one of the most

popular in the country. let's get right to cnn's alayna treene at the white house for these new post office plans. elena, what are you learning? >> well, it's also not just one of the most popular agencies, john. it's also one that's been around for more than 250 years. so keep that in mind. but look, you're exactly right. there have been multiple reports, and we've been hearing as well that the president may move to sign an executive order that would seize control, essentially, of the united states postal service, fire its leaders and place it under the control of the commerce department. now, i will say this is something that the white house has denied, but it's also something that we know donald trump has been fixated for several years on. i mean, going back to his first term. the president tried at one point and talked about wanting to privatize the united states postal service. he also talked about it as recently as december, when he was doing a news conference at his mar-a-lago home when he was still president elect. he said, you know, i don't think that

would be such a bad idea. take a listen to how he put it. >> well, there is talk about the postal service being taken private. you do know that? not the worst idea i've ever heard really isn't. you know, it's a lot different today with, uh, between amazon and ups and fedex and all the things that you didn't have. >> now, john, one reason i know that the president has been fixated on this is about the money aspect of this. the postal service has been losing money for several years now. and when that was brought to the president's attention, he said the united states government shouldn't be subsidizing this. this is actually something that other reports have shown. you know, he met with howard lutnick then it was his co-chair of his transition. now, of course, howard lutnick is going to lead the commerce department. um, something that they discussed in a meeting in december as well. so again, just to emphasize, this is something that the president has thought about and talked about previously doing, but just to give some context as well about this, you mentioned

it's a very popular agency. i mentioned it's 250 years old. just think about, though, how much americans rely on the united states postal service, one, of course, for critical deliveries like prescriptions and other things, but also a lot of the different private companies rely on the postal service to really go that extra mile. there's questions of whether or not, if privatizing this would end, the practice of being able to deliver to all americans all across the country, you know, a lot of private companies sometimes don't want to go to those very rural or, you know, hard to reach locations. so questions over that one thing as well, just as we've seen, of course, with a lot of the the president's executive orders this first month in office, this would likely face if it goes forward, significant legal challenges, legal experts say one, it would likely get caught up in the courts, but also would likely need congressional approval. >> john, there was a 1970 law that congress passed that kind of took this out of the direct powers of the administration. alayna treene at the white house, thank you very much for

that reporting, sarah. >> all right. thank you, john, let's bring in cnn senior political analyst mark preston. uh, this just in you just heard what happened there with trump, considering disbanding the the committee for the post office. i want to ask you, isn't it true that the postal service does not receive direct taxpayer funds? >> yeah, but it's. still it's. >> still one of these federal. >> government entities. >> that has, you. >> know, this. >> quasi relationship. >> the fact of the matter is, is that the. >> postal service. >> this is nothing new. >> there has. >> been a lot. >> of. talk about the postal. >> service. >> being. >> private, privatized. >> you know, over. >> the years. and he. >> is right. >> that we. >> see the likes of amazon. >> and. >> of course, federal. >> express has. >> has a. >> big piece. >> of the market in what have you. >> so there. >> is certainly. >> a lot to. >> talk about it. what's interesting.

>> i mean, i got to say from a personal standpoint. >> one of my closest friends. >> is. >> uh, works for the post office. >> and i was talking to. >> this. >> person last. >> night who. was actually walking in like the bitter snow and cold. >> and just. >> telling me how miserable it. >> was, you. >> know, to be out there. >> so. >> yes, while this is a good example, sara. >> for all the criticism and we talk about cutting the federal government, remember, there are real people lives behind it. >> and that's. >> this is a perfect example of that. >> yeah. i do want to talk to you about what is happening with the president vis a vis ukraine. this was the new york post headline this morning. it says this is a dictator and has putin on the front. this is not exactly an anti-trump paper. this is a murdoch owned paper that often praises donald trump. um, and we're now seeing ukraine, of course, one of the hot button issues brought up in marathon of overnight votes in the senate. what do you think is going to happen here when you see the response to this by not just democrats, but republicans as well? >> you know, sarah. >> when we talk about. >> donald. >> trump coming in and taking over.

>> the republican party. >> and remake it in his own image and really making the republican party become the maga party, now, this seems to be one of those building blocks that has been remains and is left over from, you know, the legacy gop, which is to be, you know, tough on defense. >> you. >> know, to. >> be pushing democracy across the world and understanding that fighting wars across the sea prevents terrorism coming to our own land. so what i do think is we're starting to see a little bit of a schism in the republican party right now about everybody all in in agreeing to get behind donald trump and those war hawks who, you know, deep down inside, still have that, uh, you know, that bit of gop, traditional gop still in them. >> let's turn to the economy. that is what americans really want the president to to tackle when it comes to inflation, when it comes to prices, inflation up. obviously, he's only been in office for a month. so this is not something that he has done himself. but he said he would

fix it on day one. um, what do you think is going to happen here when you consider that the public is starting to get real frustrated with the fact that that is something that he hasn't tackled, and he's sort of warned people that there could be more pain coming. >> no doubt. listen, during the campaign, he said, basically every ill that. >> that we. >> face as a nation was going to be fixed on day one, including lowering prices. the reality is, is we know that prices will never go lower. we'll see gas prices go down, of course, as they fluctuate, but food prices are basically going to stay where they're at because we're not going to see those companies lower prices now that they've reached a certain level. what we are seeing, though, in the cnn polling numbers that were just released, uh, yesterday, shows that trump still has support of his party. it's still 88% of his party are behind him. and they're also supportive of congress. 88% of republicans are

supportive of the congressional republicans backing donald trump. so when will the full pushback be on donald trump from congress? i don't know yet. um, i do think he certainly has a few more months to get some things done. but the reality is he will start seeing some slippage. we're starting to see it amongst young people, and we're starting to see it amongst some of those demographic groups. democratic groups, african and hispanics are starting to slip a little bit from where he was just even a month ago. sarah. >> yeah. and we should mention probably the point at which republicans will respond to this differently is when their constituents do. and we're starting to see that happen in deep red georgia. we just saw some some really it stunned the representative, representative mccormick, walking in to to boos after talking about some of the things that trump has already done. so we will see what happens here. mark preston is always a pleasure to see you on this show bright and early. appreciate you, kate. >> coming up for us europe now preparing to deal with an american president who continues

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the world's most powerful nations. the words russian aggression, a term that you would think would be easy to include in a joint statement of the g7. as russia's war in ukraine approaches its third anniversary. but not according to president trump, who this morning is refusing to include the words russian aggression has been used in g7 statements dating back to the start of the conflict. so, understandably, this change is causing a problem. one official putting it this way the talks are still happening, but there is a lot of concern at equivocating. who is responsible for the war? joining me right now is democratic congressman from massachusetts, bill keating. he sits on the house foreign affairs committee, as was saying in the break. congressman, i was looking through sort found your press release. um, from january, as you've been leading an effort to try to keep russia from being able to join the g7 again, russian aggression is right there in your press release. what is your reaction to this move now from the white house? and what do you think the real impact of it could be?

>> well, kate, thanks for having me on. >> and i want to tell you that, uh. just russia's being discussed. >> and. being part of the. >> g7 is the. >> exact opposite. >> of really the mission statement of the g7. >> they are the leading industrial. >> democracies in the world. and in fact, with ukraine. they have $100 billion of their own money for ukraine, as well as 50. >> billion. >> they have in russian frozen assets. so they have been very much, uh, opposed to russia's aggression in ukraine and supportive of ukraine. so the concept being introduced. >> by. >> president trump. that that actually it's a good thing to have them. part of this is just the opposite of what's actually happening and the opposite of the direction of the g7. >> the sensitivity of just the words russian aggression, um, is kind of emblematic of this. it's become like awkward and evasive way that donald trump's team is having to is sidestepping straightforward questions about the war in ukraine and the negotiations

that are taking place now. i want to play for you what we heard from donald trump's national security adviser, taking questions from reporters in the white house briefing room just yesterday. >> after the president's. post on truth social yesterday. need to know who does he think is more responsible for the russian invasion of ukraine? putin or zelenskyy? >> well, look, his his goal here is to. >> bring this war to an. >> end period. uh, and there has been ongoing fighting on both sides. his frustration with president zelenskyy is that you've heard is multifold. >> the president. >> has called zelenskyy a dictator. >> does he. >> view putin as a dictator? >> president trump is obviously very frustrated right now with president zelenskyy. >> now, congressman, if this is part of a negotiating tactic to keep people at the table in the end, bring an end to this war by

not saying the reality of things, um, in the state of the war and who started it publicly? is there a world where you think it is worth it? >> this isn't going to occur in any real world. this negotiation right now with his envoy, keith kellogg, uh, talking to zelenskyy and and trump. they're taking the roles of good cop, bad cop, trying to really coerce ukraine solely to his making concessions while not dealing with russia itself, not calling them out. central to all of this peace agreement is indeed a country that will be a rule of law, country that has freedom, that has, uh, a democracy in place. that's ukraine. and making sure that they're secure from russian threats of aggression and illegal and immoral wars. and that's the center point with this, for them to just focus on ukraine only and ignore russia won't be

successful. and honestly, uh, the sooner that we get to that, the more we'll work with our allies. we're leaving out ukraine. should ukraine should be center stage at all negotiations. and the european countries, our allies, our nato allies, they have to be too. my fear is this we have lost trust with our closest allies and 80 year coalition that people like my uncle were killed in action for during world war ii. to start this democratic world order. we have now president trump thinks he can change the world order unilaterally. and america first doesn't mean that america is secure. so i think, honestly, uh, the approach has to change. we have to deal with our allies. and i hope, uh, that this change can occur with members of congress and was great to see some senators speaking up yesterday with members of congress speaking up. we have a role in this, and this role is going to be challenged

like it never has been before. >> you can see that in the in the efforts of the executive branch of doge in trying to essentially eliminate agencies that congress has created. i mean, the administration has had some legal victories this week, allowing them to continue with doj's efforts in mass firings. now we are starting to see, though, some republicans facing some tough questions from voters back in their districts. i want to play for you what we just saw happen in georgia. republican congressman rich mccormick, he was asked about what congress will do to push back against donald trump's doge executive order efforts. listen to this. >> when you. >> talk about presidential power, i remember having the same discussion with republicans when biden was elected. >> the funny. >> thing is, the funny thing is, the funny thing is you're sitting here and a lot of you would probably say those

january. >> and it continued, you know, if members face these questions and pushback, do you think that could do you think it will actually could actually slow elon musk down? >> you know, that's an important clip, kate, because what you're seeing there is the fact that the republicans right now have all three levers of government the presidency, the house, the senate. they have the ability and the responsibility to make the cuts they deem necessary. they can do it the right way. they can do it legally. they can do it while knowing how what they're cutting, how that affects the functioning of government that is not being done right now by elon musk. and the approach has been so harmful to so many americans. i had over 10,000 people in a town hall last week from my district alone. so upset with these cuts, everything focused on those cuts. the republicans bear the responsibility. if they don't take the responsibility and

actions they have themselves to do, the cuts themselves the right way and the harm that elon musk is doing, and he's doing harm, will rest with them for their inaction so they can have town meetings like the one we just saw try and dodge the issue. they're in control. they have the power, they have the responsibility, and they're going to be responsible for the harm that's done by just ceding this power to someone who doesn't know what they're doing, who's not even elected, who's not even accountable. and his conflicts of interest are so rampant that he should never be a mile near that place. >> it's interesting that you're also saying that you're you're getting packed town halls now, um, with people asking big questions about this as well. it seems like that. we'll see how that trend grows. um, because the efforts by doge definitely are not going to be slowing. congressman, thank you for coming in. john. >> all right. this morning, for the first time, the fbi will be run by someone with a long history of attacking the fbi. new details on how kash patel

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as judges or high level officials. >> in. >> the. department of justice. or maybe prior assistant u.s. attorneys, things like that, or significant law enforcement careers. clarence kelly, notably, was an fbi agent, ran a field office and then was the chief of the kansas city police department. you know, the list goes on and on. kash patel has none of those qualifications. he has no significant law enforcement background. he has a fairly undistinguished legal career up to this point, and he has never led an organization of any size. so he lacks even the leadership experience that you normally would say would be necessary to run a massive institution like the fbi. >> and i don't know that we've ever had j. edgar hoover aside. and that's complicated because he was there for so long, had an fbi director who was such just a close political, political ally of a president and for whom that really is the primary connection. >> john.

>> even j. edgar hoover, if he were here to have this conversation with us, would vociferously protest that he was a political person and he really wasn't. when you look at hoover, he wasn't attached so much to one political ideology or one politician. he was very much the tool and the executioner for every president he ever served. kash patel is fundamentally different. he is intrinsically connected to our current president. he is admittedly as he as he put in his senate confirmation questionnaire, served as a surrogate for the president for the last two years. he's campaigned with the president, uh, appeared at campaign events and things like that. so this is the first time the fbi has ever had an overt, admittedly political fbi director. and i think that opens up a lot of really serious concerns. >> we will see how it plays out. andy, one other thing that we learned overnight, the washington post reporting that the first ever national database tracking misconduct by federal

law enforcement. that database deleted was the word that the washington post used. you know, poof, it's gone. that was actually something that was proposed under the trump administration, but now it's gone. what's the impact? >> yeah. >> john, as we've learned in the last decade, so many law enforcement, uh, unfortunate, uh, events involving law enforcement, things like excessive use of force and the like, uh, the consent decrees over entire departments that have failed in terms of their duty to train and supervise their law enforcement officers, those sorts of data sets are crucially important to maintaining the sort of accountability that the public demands from its law enforcement professionals and all law enforcement professionals who are truly dedicated and good at their jobs and deliver for their communities day in and day out, support things like, uh, accountability because a lack of accountability undermines the confidence in all of them. so

the loss of that data, i think, sends a very troubling signal that we are basically not watching. we are not holding people accountable in a way that we should. and that is something that every american should be concerned about. >> i don't know that anyone should be afraid by data or information. andrew mccabe, thanks so much for your help on this, i appreciate it. sara. >> all right. ahead, the anti-vaccination sentiment helping to fuel new outbreaks of the measles in a couple of states. doctor sanjay gupta will join us next. and selling fakes for big money. police discover a laboratory forging. master painters work like picasso and rembrandt. you'll get a look inside. >> are you having any. >> fun? >> what are you getting out of living? who cares for what you've got? if you're not having any fun. >> have a little fun. >> oh.

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firing a list that includes anyone who works, who worked or works on climate, environmental justice, equity, d i a diversity, equity, inclusion. according this is all according to a copy of an email that was shared with cnn and the still vague plans of how deep and wide the cuts are going to be to america's emergency response agency, has even republicans voicing concern publicly. cnn's andy greer has this new reporting, and she joins us right now. andy. tell us more about what you're learning and what you're hearing now from even republicans. >> well. >> kate. >> natural disasters. >> affect everyone. >> and the republicans that i spoke to. for this. >> story, particularly. >> the ones. >> who states are. >> still recovering. >> from hurricanes and. >> natural disasters. >> told me that they believe fema. >> plays a critical role. now. >> they may. >> say that there is some. >> bureaucracy or ways. >> to. trim the. >> agencies down, but its. >> basic function. >> its essential.

>> purpose of. >> helping states. recover from natural. >> disasters and. >> prepare for. >> them are critical. so they, these. >> republican lawmakers. >> are trying to back channel. >> with. >> the trump administration. >> they tell. >> me, trying to. >> find some common. >> ground here about the. >> important programs. >> that they believe need. >> to continue. but they say they're not getting. >> a lot of specifics back. >> president trump, though. >> has been. >> very clear. >> as you pointed out, about. >> his intentions with fema when he was. >> visiting hurricane damage. >> in north. carolina last month. he suggested that maybe the agency no. longer needs to exist. since then, an advisory council. >> has been. >> formed to. look at ways. >> to gut and. >> potentially get rid. >> of fema. >> so now. >> the question is going. >> to be. >> is this a. red line. >> for republicans? >> they have. >> stood by and supported the president as he has gutted the usaid. >> agency. >> a consumer protection bureau. >> they support trump's ultimate plan to get rid of the. >> department of education. but what happens to. fema is going. >> to potentially. >> be a different story. >> and republicans are signaling that now.

>> and one of the things and explain this for people, because one of the things that we have heard from governors and why they might need a different a reformed fema or an updated upgraded fema, but they need fema is if fema is gone, it puts a whole new level of burden on states, on governors, on these members of congress to respond. >> absolutely. >> fema is. >> like. >> a quarterback in these situations, but working very. closely with states who know their areas. >> and how. >> to. >> recover potentially best. but they need the manpower and support that fema brings to these emergency situations, and also the preparation and mitigation that fema does ahead of time to try and prevent a disaster when natural disasters strike. so states have an. infrastructure in place, but fema provides so much manpower on a scale and scope that states would have a lot of trouble handling that if that were to ultimately just go away. >> yeah, annie, great reporting as always. it's good to see

you, sarah. >> all right. joining us now, former federal workers kerry schmidt, who is a biological science technician at catoctin mountain park. and angela moxley, who for years was a botanist at the harpers ferry national historical park, all part of the park service. um, you both lost your jobs. i'm sorry to hear that. frankly. it sucks. angela, you wrote about how you felt suddenly losing your job through no fault of your own. what did you tell people on linkedin? >> yeah, well, thank. >> you for. >> having me. and first, i want to clarify. i was. >> at harpers. >> ferry for. >> ten days, ten days. >> shy of one. >> year. >> and had worked. at a nearby. >> park as a contract. botanist for two years. um, but i shared my story on linkedin because i wanted to let people know what was happening to federal workers. i think there's a misconception out there that probationary employees are on probation because of some sort of low performance issue, and that is not the case. it is

simply to do with the time that we've had in the federal service. um, and many of us have been working on the margins of federal agencies or had worked at a different agency and were transferred, and that's merely why we were on probation. i also wanted to make people aware of what is happening to the parks. um, there's been a lot of talks about the visitor impacts of these cuts to parks, overflowing toilets and park closures. um, but this will also impact the resources that people come to the parks, um, to to see and enjoy the resource. managers like carrie and myself, are the people taking care of these resources. and they will not be around if there is not staff to care for them. >> you also talked about the pay. were you very well paid? >> um, anyone in my role could be making more, if not a lot more in the private sector. um,

this field of natural resources is extremely competitive. um, we put ourselves through graduate school, and then we go on to take a series of usually low paying jobs. we're performing repetitive and sometimes menial tasks. we're working in tough environmental conditions, and we string together a series of seasonal jobs. and we do this often for years, in order to prove that we are good enough to put on the green and gray uniform of the national park service. um, and so we definitely could be making a lot more money in the private sector, but we do this job because we believe in the mission of protecting public lands. >> carrie, how long have you worked at the national park service before you got your notice? >> so i started at catoctin mountain park last may. um, so i think about nine months. >> and what did you think about suddenly finding yourself after all this time trying to get the

job, finding yourself without the job that you really wanted. >> it it was a shock. um, you know, there had been rumors for several weeks and a lot of unknowns. and, um, to actually find out friday was was a shock and it was really disappointing. um, you know, the future of the park service, i think is strong because we have, um, a lot of supporters in the american people. and, um, you know, i just hope one day i can wear the green and gray again. >> i want to show you an image. i know you can't see it, so i will describe it for you in case you haven't seen it. um, at cpac, we saw elon musk, who is the head of doge, the group that ended up laying you people off. he used a chainsaw to boast about cutting your jobs and thousands of other jobs to save the american taxpayer money. he is holding it. he is going around. he is yelping and

screaming to a sort of cheering crowd. um, proud of the cuts that he's made. what do you think of this? i'll start with you, angela. >> federal workers are not monsters. we are your neighbors. um, we are civil servants. we are serving the country. everyone that i know that is a federal worker is working for less pay than they could make in the private sector. and they're often doing the job of 2 to 3 people. um, so we live in your communities. we support the businesses in your communities. and, um, these impacts are are going. i live in maryland and in the national capital region. these impacts are going to cause pain. >> carrie, how would you describe how doge is operating at this point? >> i honestly can't really speak to that. um, you know, i'm just here to share my story as a federal employee who is feeling the impacts of what is happening

right now. um, you know, it's a really stressful time. um, it's been less than a week since i got notice of my termination, so, um. yeah, i'm feeling all the emotions. >> kerry schmidt, angela moxley, thank you so much. i know it's hard to talk about this stuff to complete strangers, but thank you for sharing your story with us this morning, and i hope that things get better and your future is much brighter. appreciate you john. >> all right. this morning, an increase in the number of measles cases in the texas new mexico border. and this is causing concern nationwide. cnn chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta is in west texas. you've been covering the situation there, sanjay. we asked people for questions about this measles outbreak. let me read you one. mary from saint charles, illinois, writes, i'm 59. is the measles vaccine i was given as a child still protecting me? >> yeah.

>> this was a common question, and i'm just a few years younger than you. and this is something that i thought about as well. the short answer is yes. this should be a lifelong vaccination. usually it's two shots. as you may know, first shot gives you about 93% protection. two shots will give you 97% protection. and that should last for life. now there's about 1% of people who, for whatever reason, their immunity will sort of wane over time. their immune systems may not be working as well. if they're concerned about that or if they're living in a high risk area where you see outbreaks, you can get your titers checked and get your antibodies checked. i was working on a documentary about transplant surgery. i actually had my titers checked as a result of that to to make sure that i was still protected against measles, and i was. so i think, you know, for most people, regardless of age, if you got a shot, they started giving those sort of robustly around the country in the mid 60s. if you got two of those shots, you should be well

protected. >> and we just showed some pictures of you actually getting your titers checked. i didn't know a what titers were b that you could get them checked, but that's a good piece of information there. so this is an interesting question. why is the vaccination rate so relatively low where you are right now in west texas? >> yeah. so this is really interesting. if you look sort of at this area of the country or even different areas of the country, it's usually because of small pockets of, of unvaccinated or relatively unvaccinated people. so this is a area just a little south of here, gaines county, texas, that we're talking about, where it's a largely rural, close knit, close knit mennonite community. um, and that's where you really see the the lower vaccination rates. so what you want with measles is around 95. that gives you that herd immunity or that community immunity that we've talked so much about in the past and gains, it's around 82%. and that's part of the problem,

because when you have people who are unvaccinated and then they're interacting with the rest of the community, interacting with children, for example, who have not yet been vaccinated, or people who may have weakened immune systems for some reason, that's when you start to get into real trouble. the vast majority of the people that we've been talking about have been unvaccinated, but there have been some people who were vaccinated. and again, it's, you know, 93 to 97% effective, but not 100%. so even some vaccinated people, especially vulnerable people, may still get infected if you're living in one of those areas. but again, it's small pockets usually that are driving those lower vaccination rates. >> yeah, but a pocket of 82% that's just too low to prevent an outbreak there. all right. laura asks should my two year old grandson get his second dose? you were talking about the two doses of the measles vaccine. should he get his second dose now, instead of waiting until he's four like he normally would? >> yeah, this is a really interesting question. and this has come up a lot here just being on the ground here in west texas because a lot of young

kids, obviously they're worried about it. most of the people who are hospitalized, for example, at this children's hospital, covenant children's, uh, they're young children. so here's the way to think about it. i think the way that the vaccine schedule sort of came about in the united states is you got that first dose around a year of age or so, and then you wanted to get the second dose before you started school. and that's what got you first. the 93% protection and then up to the 97% protection. there are many countries around the world where you get that first dose, and then just a few months later, you'll get that second dose. so here's what i would say. i don't know where this person lives, if certainly if you live in an area where there are measles outbreaks, consider getting that second dose earlier should still offer a lot of protection. if not, then, you know, just make sure you're certainly getting it before the grandson in this case starts school. that that's sort of the key. there's no problem getting it earlier, but the key is to make sure you do it before you actually start school. >> i'm looking at this chart here right next to you i have up on the wall. you can see the vaccination rate among

kindergartners gone down a lot since 2020. and you're going to see you're just going to see more measles outbreaks. if this number continues to fall. >> yeah. if you look at seventh graders, for example, in west texas versus kindergartners, you can see sort of a pretty significant change, as you point out, with that chart, you've seen the kindergartner rate go down, but, you know, seven years ago, eight years ago, whenever, you know, those seventh graders were at the same age, the vaccination rates were much higher. so it's going down now in time. but certainly over over the last decade or so as well. >> all right. dr. sanjay gupta, great to have you out there in lubbock. thanks so much for this. excellent information. kate. >> coming up for us, an amazon delivery driver risks, risks that risks their own life jumping into action to help save a family from a burning home. and turning to turkey to help with the surging egg prices in america.

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>> on my amazon delivery. >> driver. >> and i saw the house on fire. hold on. let me help the lady down. >> she. you heard her there. she helped carry the homeowner's elderly mother out of that burning house. elmore says she wasn't planning to work that day, but credits a larger purpose at work in her life. >> god puts. >> you where you need to be and not where you want to be. he placed you in situations where he tests you. we ask for things, and he wants to see if you're going to depend on him in those situations. so that's why we always tested. >> thank goodness for her. local fire officials say the cause of the blaze at this point still under investigation. all right. new zealand has named the velvet worm as this year's bug of the year. yep. they've got a bug of the year, surprising many by choosing neither the prettiest nor the most useful insect. it beat out other bugs, including ants, crickets, and flies. the velvet worm has existed for millions of years. they hunt

under rotting leaves, spitting poison to capture their prey. the competition had almost 25,000 votes by nearly 10,000 people worldwide. i know i voted. all right, the political tension between canada and the united states hit the ice on thursday, and, oh, canada. canada won. canada's connor mcdavid scored the game winner in overtime to win the first ever four nations cup. canada defeated the u.s. 3 to 2. the tournament added spark because of the political tension between president donald trump and prime minister justin trudeau and many other canadians over tariff threats and trump's comments on making canada america's 51st state. after the game, trudeau posted this on social media because he couldn't help himself, saying, you can't take our country and you can't take our game. that is called she made kate. >> delivered best in a tweet right after that hockey match.

it's great to see that. okay. moving on. the u.s. is now planning to import millions of eggs from turkey. it's part of an effort to help alleviate the pain of the ongoing egg shortage on grocery store shelves all over the united states, caused by the bird flu crisis. cnn's vanessa yurkevich is tracking this one for us. what are you learning? why turkey? >> we're about to get a lot of eggs from turkey. 15,000 tons. that's about 240 million eggs coming to the u.s. by july. >> and then by the end of the. >> year. >> we're. >> going to get about 420 million eggs from turkey. we actually get eggs from turkey. normally, if you look at the numbers in 2022, about 43 million eggs and then going all the way up to 2024, 71 million eggs. but this is the most amount of eggs that we've received from turkey. and we really shouldn't be surprised, though, because turkey, along with the u.s., is a major. egg exporter. you have netherlands at the top, then the u.s., and then turkey is number five. but of course, this is all coming because of the avian flu here in

the u.s. there's an egg shortage, prices are higher, and the usda is is going to saying that egg prices are only going to go up by about 20% this year. and it's going to take a while for the supply chain to catch up here in the u.s. that is why we businesses, u.s. businesses are starting to import even more from abroad. and the egg community here is actually welcoming this influx of eggs. the president of the united egg producers, he says that we support the temporary import of egg products to help ease the strain of the u.s. egg supply. as we navigate this challenging time of continued, highly pathogenic avian influenza detections. obviously, you have farmers who are nervous about what's going to happen with their flocks. over 140 million birds have been killed in the past few years, and folks are nervous about just how very viral this virus is and what it's going to do to the egg population here. >> we've heard quite a bit of

there's a plan coming and that the white house, the trump administration, was going to approach and tackle the avian flu in a different way. they say they are coming up with a holistic plan. are there more details on this? >> we do not have more details. we know that they are working on it. they're working on it at the usda and the cdc because there have been infections in humans. but what the agriculture community has said that they want to see is more funding directed at research and surveillance, understanding exactly how transmissible this virus is, where this virus is in the u.s. also, there's been talk of vaccines. that's very controversial because once you start to vaccinate birds here in the u.s., that virus is labeled endemic and then other countries are hesitant to want to trade with us and buy those birds. and those eggs potentially. >> ripple effects are enormous. >> it is it is enormous. but right now we're looking to other countries to help support the egg shortage here in the u.s. until we can catch up or get a plan in place from the