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president trump is meeting at the white house with a group of bipartisan governors as he begins his second month. now back in that office. on the agenda today, the tens of thousands of federal workers being fired. now, remember, as i mentioned, these are people who live all across the country, not just in washington. and this week, we saw mass layoffs at agencies like the faa, fema, the irs, and more. and that's on top of the thousands fired earlier this month. and the 75,000 workers who took a so-called buyout. but today, cnn has learned the pentagon is rethinking a plan to fire thousands of civilian workers. that was expected to start today. cnn's jeff zeleny is outside the white house on the north lawn with more. >> jeff danna. >> the president. >> is in about, uh, entering a little more than a half an hour

addressing this bipartisan group of governors. we're getting some reports from inside the room. we'll see him speaking later. but talking about his accomplishments during his first month in office. but so far, not talking about some of the concerns that are really being voiced to many of those governors from across the country. we've been talking for the last month about this wave of federal layoffs from agency to agency. well, that is not, as you said, just impacting washington. it is impacting every corner of this country. i've talked to aides to a handful of governors, both democratic and republican, who said their offices have been hearing an earful about some of the the consequences, not only from the layoffs, but also the freezing of many of these federal programs. it's an open question if the president will hear from these governors. normally, governors are allowed to ask questions and have an exchange. so far, the president is doing all the the talking. but members of congress are getting an. i'm in georgia with

the new republican member of congress. rich mccormick hearing about some of those concerns about layoffs at the cdc and elsewhere. let's take a look. >> what's not reasonable is taking this chainsaw approach. >> which they. >> obviously admit. >> when. they fired. >> these. >> people and then decided, oh, we. >> fired the wrong people. >> my understanding is when you say you had this many employees that you have to cut, that organization decides who they're going to cut. now, they may make they. >> may. >> what you. >> congressman, and your fellow congressman are going to. >> do to rein in the megalomaniac in the white house. >> you talk about tyranny when you talk about presidential power. i remember having the same discussion with republicans when biden was elected. >> so the house is in recess this week, and several members have heard from several constituents about these. so, dana, it's an open question. if we are hearing the beginning of what could be a wider backlash

or if it's just some constituents speaking out to their members. but there's no doubt the president so far has been very defensive of doge and elon musk's role in this. but as we go forward, the actual real world impact of all of this could still affect the white house. the bottom line is the white house is is chiefly concerned about to bringing down prices and inflation and nothing that he has said, at least so far has tempered any concerns about that. yeah. >> because people still feel what they feel when they go to the grocery store and beyond. thank you so much, jeff, for that reporting. we're waiting. we are waiting to see and hear for ourselves what donald trump is talking about with the governors. meanwhile, elon musk, the man behind many of these cuts to the federal government, was given a hero's welcome at cpac yesterday. and he brought props. >> i was living the meme just like this, living the dream, and i was living the meme. and it's pretty much what's happening.

you know. >> you're like. >> i think you're bigger. i mean, doge started out as a meme. think about it. now. it's real. isn't that crazy? people ask, like, how can you find waste in like in dc? i'm like, look, it's like being in a room, uh, you know, and there's the wall. the roofs and the floor are all targets. so it's like you're going to close your eyes and go shoot in any direction so you can't miss. >> paint us a picture of. >> inside of the mind. >> of a genius. >> like, how do you do all this? >> can you answer that question? it's not an easy question. yeah. >> i mean, my mind is a storm. yeah. so, yeah, it's a storm. this is the chainsaw for bureaucracy. >> chainsaw? >> it's pretty on the nose. i'm joined now by some terrific reporters. hans nichols of axios, pbs newshour's laura barron-lopez and zolan kanno-youngs of the new york

times. happy friday, everybody. we made it. let's pick up on the elon musk of it all and look at some of the polling that we released yesterday. polling related to one month into the trump administration, specifically about elon musk. you see there questioning whether or not elon musk's prominent role is a good thing. 28% say yes. bad thing. the majority plus say 54% say bad thing. neither 18%. and i also just want to, as we start our discussion, show something else, which is we've seen people who are sort of watching this, have seen some of what jeff zeleny played in his live shot from congressman mccormick in georgia. it's not just georgia. we are seeing headlines from across the country, from indiana to to georgia to ohio and beyond. republicans hearing from their constituents. and so, hans, i think it is important to

say we don't know which way this is going to go. this could be a blip. and then america can move on. or this could be the beginning of a big outcry. >> yeah. and it could be similar. >> we've talked about this table before, similar. >> to 2020, 2010 when there's the tea party movement. >> that that. >> presaged the it started in 29, 2009. i'm looking at this in two ways. one, to what extent are the activists? to what extent are they being organized by outside groups? there's always this debate in politics. how much is grassroots? how much is astroturf? we don't know the answer to that question. i think what we'll find out over the weekend and maybe even the next 24 hours, is how do the republican responses differ? how do they vary? because what i heard from congressman mccormick, there was someone not necessarily backing down. now, some of the other quotes, the congressman are backing down. and, you know, some of these guys have just been through an election. let's give them the benefit of the doubt. they know how to read their districts. and so what i'm really looking for is not necessarily crowd sizes

and angry town halls, although that's interesting. i'm looking at how lawmakers react and what the spectrum is. and if there's a divide in the republican party. >> i mean, i think that it may take a while to see republicans fully accept what they're hearing from their constituents because, again, how much are the constituents going to be upset, not just about what doge is doing, which we're seeing some reaction to elon musk himself, but also to the still, uh, the existing funding freezes because there are still funding freezes when it comes to money coming out of infrastructure bill coming out of the inflation reduction act, money that impacts farmers and other americans across the board. and so the more that they see a lapse in that funding, the more that you'll potentially hear them talk to these republicans. but i think that republicans are probably going to hold out for a while, given that a lot of them are also simultaneously afraid of primaries from elon musk, who is threatening them. and also, you know, there's significant

reporting suggesting that they're afraid privately expressing this for their lives and for potential threats against them and their families. >> um, wow. and then there's the question that should underlie all of this, which is the reason why donald trump became president, mostly the economy and specifically inflation and the crisis of affordability that people felt during joe biden, particularly at the end. and people are still feeling. and on that note, questions about how donald trump is handling that issue of the economy. 42% in gallup, 45% in the washington post. those are the approval ratings there. and then just back to cnn numbers, because i think that this is really the most important number that we saw in our poll yesterday. and that is has trump done enough to reduce prices? not enough. 62%.

62%. i mean, that's almost two thirds of americans saying get focused on why we elected you, sir. >> sure. and remember, during the campaign, there was another day, one promise as far as, uh, as far as the economy and as far as consumer prices to bring them down. we have seen, you know, as melanie was mentioning, that trump has not hedged concerns at this point. he has tried to hedge expectations. you've seen a change in sort of the language coming from him, as well as jd vance trying to tell voters. jd vance said rome wasn't built in a day. this is going to take time, and it is early in the administration at this point, to be fair. that said, he set the high expectations during the campaign. and when, you know, the previous administration was dealing with high inflation and citing supply chain issues and and the global pandemic, well, at that point during the campaign, it was easy just to say, you're in office, trump said. you're in office. you are responsible. well, now you're in office. and voters tend when it comes to high consumer prices,

to blame who is in office. despite all of the other factors that may be continuing contributing to high prices. you group that with the layoffs that you smartly said is not just impacting dc, but impacting people throughout the country. and it's understandable why you would have frustration right now. >> yeah, because it's layoffs not just of federal workers, but the ripple effect, uh, of people with federal contracts, people who were promised grants, farmers that you mentioned smartly, who are many of whom are in red states, who voted for for donald trump. there are a lot of senior trump officials who went into the white house briefing room yesterday, including kevin hassett, who does economic issues, is a senior person on economic issues for donald trump. listen to what he said about inflation. >> so we're addressing inflation. we didn't have to address it in the first term because it was always. >> in the ones. >> almost always. but we're going to get it back there. and how are we doing it? well, we're doing it with a plan that president trump and i and others have talked about in the oval

that involves, like every level of fighting, inflation. >> translation. >> they want more. they want oil prices to come down. that's the quick translation. that's the that's the way they see unlocking the inflation is really bringing down oil prices. having an energy explosion in this country. uh, but the question is what are they doing on tariffs? because it's not debatable that tariffs are inflationary. and what do they do about just sort of the vibes out there. and this is what's so hard about inflation is that once americans voters, consumers, anyone starts expecting inflation. it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. and that is the sort of snowball challenge that they'll be in. and one thing that the treasury market is telling us pretty clearly is that the expectations for for more inflation are pretty high. and that's a concern. um, so like we can talk about the michigan survey and whether or not michigan is a good barometer for what's actually happening there. the treasury market is getting not flashing red, but it's giving some warning signs that inflation could be in the, you know, high twos for some time. >> yeah. all right. we're going to take a break. but all you have to do is look at what happened yesterday with walmart saying that they're worried about 2025. and then the market,

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>> russian aggression. that is quite literally what started the war in ukraine. it began when russia well, aggressively invaded its neighbor in a brazen land grab. the trump administration now appears to be trying to rewrite that history. sources tell cnn the united states is resisting using those two words russian aggression. in a joint g7 statement to mark the third anniversary of the war. nick paton walsh has been covering the conflict for all three years and joins me now from kyiv. nick. >> yeah, a startling, of course, to have this basic fact of the invasion here legislated by the most powerful man in the world and the occupant of the white house, that has been the key military and financial backer to ukraine resisting russia in the biden administration today, though, further comments from president trump talking about how he was frankly sick of it, the idea that zelenskyy no

longer has cards to play. i'm paraphrasing here, and that it was no longer important for zelenskyy necessarily to be at the meetings. and that same interview with fox news, he did concede that russia attacked, but he said it was essentially the result of missteps by biden and zelenskyy that could have prevented russia from making that move. untrue. russia clearly had a strategic plan and thought it could move into ukraine in a matter of weeks and take the majority of its territory, but found significant ukrainian resistance and western support made that plan fall apart quite fast. but this remarkable, consistent enmity between trump and zelenskyy has really been overshadowing the past week. we've had trump call zelenskyy a dictator, say that he was on a gravy train, that money was going missing here in ukraine, and even suggested zelenskyy was asleep rather than meet his treasury secretary. all of this undermining zelenskyy, overshadowing key meetings with zelenskyy, with trump's envoy to the ukraine conflict, general keith kellogg. they were

supposed to be talking the nuts and bolts of a peace plan here. indeed, there. meetings do appear potentially to have come to an end here in that kellogg has tweeted from his personal account, not his presidential envoy, one that he considered zelenskyy to be embattled and courageous and saying that long, intense days of talks are over. he also praised zelenskyy's talented national security team, a rare, frankly, over the past days where we've heard nothing but criticism from the trump team. to hear someone from that same circle praise the ukrainian leader. but this is all really, it seems, about increased pressure to get ukraine to sign a rare earth mineral deal that's increasingly the focus of all u.s. ukrainian relationships. now, ukraine officials saying they're now dealing with several drafts. well, they've gone through drafts to get to a place where ukraine potentially is happier. security elements of some ukraine wants added, but that seems to be the main focus, frankly, of talks right now. a great sense of urgency to get that signed. without it, it may stall or entirely derail the

ukrainian u.s. relationship. dana. >> and just real quick, nick, i think that all of these details are so important. and the obvious shift over the past week in u.s., ukraine slash u.s., u.s., russia relations. but i want to just quickly, i want you to talk about the forest and not just the trees here, about how consequential and frankly, monumental a shift this is. >> yeah. look, i mean, there's three things really here. firstly, it's the war as it is fought right now, where russia is winning slowly, but ukraine is losing. that's true. they've got not got enough people. and we may at some point see a larger advance by the russians. the ukrainians cannot persistently hold out like this forever, particularly with morale crumbling the way soldiers must be seen, their main us back, wobbling like this. secondly, there's the larger question of what does this mean for russia's influence over ukraine? could they potentially push harder towards its main cities in the

summer or and winter ahead after that, but more widely? a big debate now raging across europe as to whether the united states, the guarantor of security across europe through nato, can be relied upon. there's certainly wobbling, it seems, when it comes to defending ukraine, which is now really the bulkhead of european security against an aggressive russia. and does that mean that if down the line, the russians push towards a more vulnerable eastern nato member like the baltic states, the americans will step in, as has always been the security plan for decades. that's actually in doubt. and we have many european leaders flying around the world now to here, to washington to address those urgent concerns. >> yeah. and that last point is really the key about i'm not sure that people realize what a huge shift this is since world war two through now, about the way that the u.s. really sees the importance of alliances in europe. nick, thank you so much. appreciate that. and while

president trump's envoy strikes a diplomatic tone in kyiv, his national security advisor is delivering a different message in front of the president's diehard supporters at cpac sign a deal to hand over half of ukraine's national excuse me, natural resource wealth or else. >> here's the. >> bottom line. >> president zelenskyy is going. >> to sign that deal. >> what better could. >> you. >> have. >> for ukraine. >> than to be in. >> an economic partnership. >> with the united states? number one. >> what better could you have for ukraine to stop. >> the killing? number two. and you know what? we have an obligation to you all. the american taxpayer, to recoup the hundreds of billions of dollars that have been invested in this war. >> right. smart reporters are back here. and what you just heard from the president's national security advisor is what nick paton walsh was talking about, is that it really seems to me that when it comes to ukraine, what the president

cares most about right now is that deal is the economic deal, the land deal. >> and for rare earth minerals as well. right? i mean, he said even last week that when it came to previous aid that the u.s. has sent to ukraine, that he wants rare earth minerals in exchange for that. that's not even talking about aid, right? and there is a question when you have these statements, the rewriting of history about this war as well, turning ukraine from victim to villain, criticizing zelenskyy as a dictator while engaging in talks with vladimir putin, who obviously most american officials would say is the dictator in this situation. you know, are you laying a framework and trying to shape perception for. potentially, you know, pulling back aid in the future as well? um, that's something that you need to watch here as well as just, you know, i think the broad point about the concern among european officials, when you have all

these different statements coming from top trump administration officials, is something really to look at, particularly at the munich security conference. my colleague was there and some european officials were questioning, hey, what? what is now this going to mean? if putin decides to attack, another nato member, will the u.s. actually step up and support that nation? those are the doubts from allies right now amid all these comments. >> yeah. on that note, i want you to listen to what emmanuel macron, the president of france, said. >> donald trump les autres. >> donald trump. >> creates uncertainty for others because he wants to make deals, find agreements and so on. donald trump creates uncertainty for vladimir putin. that's a very good thing for us. what i am going to do is i'm going to tell him, basically, you cannot be weak in the face of president putin. it's not you. it's not your trademark. >> so that's also macron, who i think probably pretty successfully got donald trump in

the first term, you know, had him over and did the big parade for him. uh, is trying to send a message with language that donald trump will understand when this is in the new york post, a very popular new york paper and one of president trump's favorite, not to mention the fact that it's owned by rupert murdoch. this is a dictator. i mean, that kind of tells you everything you need to know about how most republicans really feel, right, including people within donald trump's own administration. >> and that was addressed to the president. the new york post said, president trump, this is a dictator. but i also find striking is mike waltz the national security advisor? just yesterday, i believe it was in response to kaitlan collins said, essentially disowned his prior statements when he was pressed on how in the past he had said that russia was the aggressor, that russia started this war and essentially backtracked on all of that. and i also found it striking that keith kellogg is tweeting that

out. that statement in support of zelenskyy on his personal x account instead of his public or his his official x account. and i think that there are starting we're starting to see some signs of some fracturing with the president and what he wants and what jd vance wants with some members of his administration. >> and just to kind of broaden it out beyond the ukraine issue and just look at the way that the trump administration sees and hopes to see governments in europe go. there is a election in germany this weekend, and this is a story from kate brady from the washington post. musk, elon musk and jd vance. his comments supporting a far right party. there are also just so bizarre and absurd that it does not resonate with german politics. this way of acting and interfering is unknown to germans. >> look, i don't know whether or

not outside like, do u.s. presidents really control elections? do they really move public opinion in germany? i'm pretty skeptical. >> is the fact that they're trying. >> they're trying. they also, in musk's case, owns a popular social media platform that, you know, we have this big conversation in this country about tiktok. and can the algorithm like actually, you know, predetermined outcomes. to me, the broader question with the german elections is just what's the number that the afd is going to get? and, you know, when you talk to sort of colleagues in germany and try to get a sense for things, no one really knows how, how far they will go in the actual balloting. polling is pretty broken in this country. i think we can all, you know, with a slightly off, but it's never really no one really knows in germany where they're going to come in. and that's a great deal of uncertainty heading into sunday. they're not expected to win. it's just a question of how high they will go. but we should all be prepared for for an outcome that could shock us. >> yeah. no question guys don't go anywhere. up next, the outrage in israel over murdered

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>> the cruelty of. >> hamas. >> as monsters don't have any limits. not only they kidnaped the father of yarden bibas, the young mother, shiri, and their two little babies in an unimaginable cynical move. they didn't return shiri by her little children, the little angels, and put the body of a gazan woman inside a casket. >> nic robertson is in jerusalem. nic. >> yeah. the prime minister is vowing to get justice for the people who perpetrated these murders. and he's been very clear. his office has been reinforcing that to me today. um, you know, what is particularly striking about this situation? it's not only that shiri bibas is body. wasn't her body or there was propaganda around it when hamas was releasing it yesterday, all the pain of the country, because they've experienced her

suffering and have gone through this roller coaster of emotion while she's been held. but but to find out that it's not her body that's just such a huge, huge blow. but then you add in to the top of that, hamas said, well, it was a mix up that that she might have been in an apartment with other with palestinians when when there was a bomb strike that killed them all. hamas is narrative is that it was an israeli bomb strike. but what we've learned from the forensics of the two young boys, nine year old, nine month old and four year old ariel, is the idf saying very, very clearly they were not killed in an israeli air strike, that the hamas murdered them with their own hands. >> contrary to. >> hamas lies, ariel. >> and. >> kfir were. >> not killed. >> in.

>> an air strike. >> ariel and kfir bibas were murdered by terrorists in cold blood. the terrorists did not shoot the two young boys. they killed them with their bare hands. afterwards. they committed horrific acts to cover up this atrocity. >> so this is a double blow, if you will. but it's also striking that the bibas family, who rarely speak publicly, the aunt of kfir and ariel, spoke today, and she spoke rather than revenge, about making sure that the other hostages get released. this is what she said. >> ariel. >> ariel and cathy harris sake and for jordan's sake, we are not seeking revenge right now. we are asking for their cruelty only emphasizes the urgent need to bring shiri back to us, save the lives of the living hostages, and return all the fallen for burial. >> president trump.

>> i'm asking. >> you, please assist. >> israel and. >> our family in completing this important mission. >> so there's six living hostages expected to be released tomorrow. saturday. it's hard to see, though, how this can continue with all the tensions that are just seem to be growing right now. dana. >> yeah, but hopefully those hostages, the living hostages will be released tomorrow. and to hear jardiance sister say what she is saying, knowing that jordan, the husband of shiri and the father of those two babies, was released. so he is, you know, sort of the survivor trying to make sense of this all is really hard to bear. nic, thank you so much for your terrific reporting as always. coming up, a constitutional crisis. that's the latest rallying cry from some democrats. the question is, will it resonate and what are they doing about it? we'll discuss after a break.

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what he's doing. >> others, like senator angus king, are sounding the alarm. >> this is a constitutional crisis. it's the most serious. >> assault on our. >> constitution in the history of this country. what's it going to take for us to wake up? and when i say us, i mean this entire body to wake up to what's going on here? is it going to be too late? is it going to be when the president has accreted all this power and the congress is an afterthought? >> my panel is back with me. this is going to be a story that is going to evolve and take twists and turns. and by story, i, of course, mean how the democrats are going to figure this out. this being the message and this being the actual. response and pushback to things that they fundamentally believe. certainly in the case of angus king, who is technically an independent, who caucuses with the democrats and fundamentally believes that this is hurting

democracy when it comes to the message. let's look at some of the headlines this week. the hill democrats lack a message and a messenger. the new york times democrats fear they are missing the moment to remake the party. politico dems concede republicans running circles around them online. and then our own headline democrats confront their powerlessness as trump flexes authority. >> yeah, i think you're seeing these two different sides of the party really struggle to figure out which one is going to win out. on one hand, you have the younger democrats like congressman khuza'a and congresswoman ocasio-cortez who are saying we need to fight everywhere, everything, all at once. and they are trying to go after everything, acknowledging that this new media environment is very different than even during the first trump administration. and also, they're battling with someone like elon musk, to john's point earlier, who has a platform that he's able to manipulate the algorithm for boost his own messaging for the white house in

some cases is only putting out messages on x, some branches of the of the federal bureaucracy are not anywhere else. so there really there are some that are saying that they need to be everywhere in attacking everything. and then you see the others who are questioning whether or not they should even use their leverage for the in the one instance, they may only have their leverage, which is when government funding expires on march 14th. >> and then then there's the message on the billionaires. and you saw bernie sanders is doing a whole tour, talking, speaking out against what he calls the oligarchy. you have a great story talking about chuck schumer, the top democrats looking to jam republicans and musk on billionaires. he huddled with hakeem jeffries last week for a strategy session. uh, maybe picking a couple of issues, cuts to medicare, tax breaks for the wealthy to recreate what you call the magic of 2018. >> yeah, that's the strategy for and the challenge for democrats is how to keep their

raucous conference and caucus together when they're outraged about everything and focusing on issues that they think they can actually win at the polls at and convince voters. and they clearly think that is on tax cuts for billionaires and the cuts that republicans are talking about to medicaid, to some extent, a little medicare, but mostly medicaid. that is the sort of two shot message that the leaders want to deliver their challenge, and it's up to them, is to get everyone on the same page. and as you know, from your time on capitol hill, herding senators is like herding cats. it's very difficult. >> real quick. >> also, while you're going back and forth about deciding what to swing at, you risk also not swinging at anything and coming off as passive. the democrats are already not in power at this point, and coming off as passive. while trump is upending the federal government. there's a real risk to that as well. >> all right, a quick correction. earlier when we were talking about elon musk at cpac, we had a banner up on the bottom of the screen quoting him as saying it was a chainsaw for democracy. that was a mistake.

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saenz has a terrific story out right now about all this on cnn.com. and she joins me now. hello. nice to see you. this is really fascinating. let's start with the basics. the judges who are vying for this role. who are they and why are these mega-donors vying for what happens in this seat? well. >> this wisconsin. >> supreme court. >> race will really. determine whether. >> the. >> court is maintaining its. >> liberal majority. >> or if it will. >> turn to conservative control. >> you have dane. >> county circuit judge. >> susan crawford. >> facing. >> who is a liberal facing off against the waukesha county circuit judge brad schimel, who's the conservative in this race. this is a nonpartisan race, but there are plenty of political actors who are getting involved. perhaps the most prominent this week was trump ally elon musk, who has recently posted on social media encouraging people to vote republican in this race and also pouring in a lot of money. there's one group that's allied with him that's airing $1.6 million in tv ads that started this week. and another group

that he's tied to is spending about $1 million on field operations and canvasing. but it's not just the conservative and republican side getting involved. you also have a mega-donors like george soros and even illinois governor j.b. pritzker sending money to the democratic party in wisconsin, which can then dole out some campaign money to susan crawford. you also have vice president kamala harris fundraising outlet sending an email to donors saying, to get involved in this race, this will really be a key test of enthusiasm for both republicans and democrats in wisconsin. of course, democrats are facing this rebuilding period. you have the state party chair, ben wikler, who told our colleague fredricka scouten that this will show whether democrats have found their fighting spirit. and on the republican side, they're hoping that those gains that trump made with the electorate could also extend to this conservative candidate. and what's really shaping up to be the first major race of the trump era. >> susan crawford, you mentioned that name. she's the democrat. she is. >> she's a liberal.

>> she's a liberal. i know you're not because they're on the supreme court. they're not technically d's and r's, but, um, that's an important distinction. the issue that we're talking about, abortion, you mentioned that briefly, but this is state supreme court in wisconsin is really powerful when it comes to the question of abortion and the availability of abortion in that state. >> and this is an issue that we've seen really play out across the country. and it's an issue that the wisconsin supreme court could make a decision on, specifically looking at a law that was implemented back in 1849 and to determine whether that law can be enforced, keeping that liberal majority may very well tilt this in one direction versus having a conservative on the court would send this in another matter. but there's also other issues besides abortion that could get decided. there is a major collective bargaining case regarding that scott walker law back from the early 20 tens, 2011. that could be decided. and then there's the issue of congressional maps, which is

really something that could have not just implications in the state, but also on the national level. >> yeah, such an interesting story. i hope everybody goes to cnn.com and reads more about what you just reported here. thank you so much, arlette, and thank you for joining inside politics today. cnn news central starts after the break. >> super man. >> the christopher reeve story tomorrow at ten. >> on. >> cnn. >> hi, susan honey. >> yeah i respect that. but that cough looks pretty bad. try this. >> robitussin honey. >> the real honey you love. plus the powerful cough relief you need. >> mind if i root through your trash? >> robitussin. the only brand with. >> true. >> source certified. honey. >> this is the emirates premium economy seat. economy. perhaps they need to call it something else. >> love.

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