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legality of the planned terminations. and new developments in the ceo murder case. suspect luigi mangione appears in court. that was him entering just a few moments ago, as dozens of his supporters lined up outside. we're going to tell you what we know about this hearing and what's happened so far. we're following these major developing stories and many more coming in right here to cnn news center. >> hello, i'm brianna keilar in washington with omar jimenez in for boris. great to have you here. and we are standing by now for a key court ruling that could decide the fate of usaid. a judge could decide as soon as today on whether president trump's executive order that dismantled that u.s. agency charged with delivering humanitarian assistance around the globe is legal. >> and this is just the latest legal challenge for the trump administration as it slashes the federal workforce and dismantles government agencies. late
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yesterday, a federal judge cleared the way for trump and elon musk's doge efforts to continue mass firings of federal workers. i want to bring in cnn's jeff zeleny now. so, jeff, i mean, this is another test of the president's power to reshape the government. it's a test that we have seen from the white house. sometimes it has brought tensions over what's taken place over on the legal front. >> it absolutely has. omar. and with every executive order, there have been nearly as many legal cases. but you're right. this usaid ruling is one of the many that certainly the white house and really all across washington and beyond are watching because judge carl nichols, who's a trump appointee a week or so ago, put a one week pause on the dismantling of that agency. so we will see if there is a new ruling that adds some clarity about the future of usaid funding and the workforce there. but again, that is one of many, many rulings. some have gone in favor of the trump administration. many have not. and many are under pause. but this is one of the many that could come in later today.
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>> and jeff, the president is meeting with governors this afternoon. he had a very tense exchange, as we understand it, with one of them. what can you tell us? >> absolutely. the nation's governors are meeting for their annual winter meeting here in washington. and the president was meeting with many of them, a bipartisan group, a mix of democrats and republicans earlier this morning. and there was an extraordinary exchange between the president and the governor of maine, janet mills, all over the executive order. the president signed a few weeks ago about allowing transgender athletes to play in women's sports. watch this exchange between the president and maine governor janet mills. >> good afternoon. and it's crazy, but, uh, the ncaa has complied immediately, by the way. that's good. but i understand maine is maine here. the governor of maine, i am i'm here. are you not going to comply with that? i'm complying with state. >> and federal laws. >> well, we are the federal law.
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well, you better do it. you better do it because you're not going to get any federal funding at all if you don't. and by the way, your population, even though it's somewhat liberal, although i did very well there, your population doesn't want men playing in women's sports. so you better come. you better comply because otherwise you're not getting any federal funding. every state. good. i'll see you in court. i look forward to that. that should be a real easy one. for me. and enjoy your life after governor. because i don't think you'll be in elected politics. >> so some very sharp words there with the governor. you couldn't quite see her, but she was sitting pretty close to the president at a table of other governors. she told the president directly, we will see you in court. now, this is all coming up after the maine principals association, which is the group that oversees high school athletes in maine, has said that it would not comply and it would allow transgender student athletes to play. so that was one pretty unusual exchange there. when you saw
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someone standing up to the president about one of his rulings. so the rest of the meeting was actually quite civil. but certainly we will see if there's a legal case on this front, as we heard the governor say, we'll see you in court. >> a sparring in real time between the democratic governor and and trump. >> in court. >> yeah, yeah. if it were to happen in any room, it would happen in that one. jeff zeleny really appreciate it. thank you. you bet. meanwhile, the defense department is now pausing its plan to carry out mass firings of civilian employees. >> officials are telling cnn that defense secretary pete hegseth and pentagon attorneys are now reviewing how those firings may break the law and impact u.s. military readiness. cnn's natasha bertrand is following these developments for us. so, natasha, bring us up to speed on what you know about this pause. >> well, brianna, essentially what happened was earlier this week, the pentagon ordered military leaders to come up with lists of thousands and thousands of civilian probationary
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employees who could potentially be fired because they were looking to do away with the vast majority of the probationary employees who have been there about a year, or in some cases, up to three years, working in their jobs at the pentagon. as part of this broad effort by doge and by opm to cut the federal workforce and, of course, cut the federal spending. but what was happening was that defense officials were raising questions to their superiors about whether or not this was even legal, because there is a law in title ten of the u.s. code that says that before the secretary of defense can carry out a mass reduction of the civilian workforce inside the pentagon, a pretty serious analysis has to be done of whether that could harm u.s. national security and harm u.s. military readiness, in particular. a lot of these civilian workers, they have very important jobs. some of them are in intelligence, cybersecurity, other mission critical functions that could really impact the pentagon and the military's readiness if they are abruptly fired. and so what happened was,
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after cnn reported on wednesday that this was an issue that was being raised to the office of general counsel and the pentagon, the lawyers started to take a closer look at it, and we are now told that they have hit pause on this, on this plan to mass fire all of these civilian employees. there are about over 50,000 of them until they can figure out whether this is actually legal and whether it is going to have a severe impact on u.s. military readiness. now, defense officials, they had been creating lists. they had been working late into the night. we are told before this pause occurred today to create lists of workers who should be exempt from this mass firing because they were so concerned about the possibility that this could be very disruptive. so it remains to be seen how long this pause is going to last. but there's clearly an awareness at the pentagon here that they cannot afford to lose all of these critical workers and then have to try to claw them all back, as we've seen at other federal agencies. >> all right, natasha bertrand, thank you for the latest for us. i'm joined now by someone who
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has personally felt the impact of the mass government firings that are underway. kyra kerrigan is a disabled marine veteran. she is also a military spouse. and she was fired by the office of personnel management, which is essentially the government's hr department. kyra, thanks for being with us. you were a new employee, but i know you were hoping to make a career out of government service. just tell us why that was something that was attractive to you. >> yeah. >> thank you. >> so much for having me, brianna. um, i, you know, i served in. >> the marine corps., and i followed my spouse around the country and overseas and on deployments as we served for almost the past 18 years. >> and service is very much part of us and part of our family. and so looking to, you know, further my career, it was very obvious that, you know, serving in the federal government is something that spoke to us and spoke to us personally. um, that
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was just that's that was there that was what called to us. >> and so what was it like? what was the process like? how did it feel getting fired the way you did? >> yeah, i, i spent eight months applying to different jobs. and i was fortunate enough to get called on this interview for this position. um, i found out, um, after it that there had been for over 4000 applicants to this job, and i, i got it and i was just so thrilled, like, it was literally a dream come true for me, for my family. um, and to just be let go the way i was with, i literally had less than 30 minutes notice from the time that i got fired by someone who didn't know me, didn't know
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what i did, didn't know my role in the organization. um, until my computer access was completely locked out. >> and, you know, the government has, broadly speaking, i don't know if people know this, but it's actually marketed itself as the employer of choice for military spouses and also for veterans. you're both. this has been true of all recent administrations. bush, obama, yes, trump and also biden. have you felt that personally that as a military spouse and veteran, you were being sold on this idea of a career in the federal workforce? >> yeah, absolutely. i mean, when you move as frequently as spouses, as military families do, you know, you get to some pretty remote bases that aren't near, you know, large population centers. and one of the only ways that spouses can get employment. and one of the reasons why there's such high
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unemployment among spouses is that you're far away from a lot of places that you can work. so one of the only ways you can is by working on base and working for the department of defense, or working for one of the other federal agencies. and you know that that's there. it's, you know, you're told, like apply here, apply to these jobs. these jobs are open. we want spouses, we want veterans to to be a part of this. >> so i know you have small kids. um, you've moved four times just in the last six years. i know, um, and that's just the last six years. that's not all of it. but what does this mean for your family? what kind of financial security were you expecting that this job would provide your family? >> yeah. so my spouse will hit 18 years, um, this year. so we're right at the cusp of retirement. and i knew with my
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youngest heading to kindergarten that now i could have, you know, a career and i could have a job that would carry our family over and bridge that gap between my spouse retiring from the marine corps and being able to work again, and also to give me a chance to get back into the workforce, because it's like when you move as frequently as we do, it's hard. by the time you get settled somewhere, you're already thinking about the next time you have to leave. so being able to have this position that i did, which you know, was a remote position and was something that i was going to be able to bring with me as we move again this summer is was so big, it was literally a dream position for me and for my family. and to just have that taken away for no, you know, my my supervisor even requested for me to stay and to have someone
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who doesn't know our, our jobs, doesn't know what we do to just cut just because i happen to join within the last year, it just it's not that's not efficient. >> kira, thank you for sharing your story with us. we really appreciate it. and thank you for your service, both in the marine corps and as a military spouse. we do appreciate it. >> thank you so much for having me. >> still to come luigi mangione just got out of a new york courtroom facing murder and terrorism charges related to the killing of unitedhealthcare ceo. we'll have details on what happened. >> plus, buyers are worried about higher inflation. we're going to crack open the numbers on why consumer confidence dropped nearly 10% this month. and later, cnn's sanjay gupta goes to a children's hospital in west texas, the epicenter of a growing measles outbreak. that sparked concern nationwide. that, and much more coming up, cnn news central.
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happened in court today? >> yeah, i mean, there are a lot of supporters. there were dozens of them packed in the hallway, hoping to get one of the handful of seats open to the public inside. and when mangione lawyer walked onto the floor, that crowd erupted into cheers and applause. really gives you a sense of kind of the public's interest in this case and how big it is now inside the actual courtroom. that hearing only lasted about 20 minutes. mangione remained shackled the whole time. his lawyers asked the judge for him to be have his hands free and. and over security concerns, the judge denied that the hearing was focused a lot on what some of the evidence that the prosecution has turned over. they said they've turned over police body cam footage, surveillance video, autopsy reports, other evidence from the crime scene and cell phone records that they obtained from a phone that was found just outside the hilton hotel, where the united health care ceo was gunned down. now, his lawyers were already starting to raise some issues that they have. they said that they believe they have
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some constitutional issues about the searches of mangione belongings. when he was arrested in pennsylvania. that is an issue they flagged to the judge. but he said he wants this to start moving forward. so he set a date for them to file their motions. mangione will be back in court in late june, and that is when the judge says he thinks he will be able to potentially rule on some of these motions, some of the issues that his attorneys are bringing up. no trial date was set today. his lawyer did speak outside court. she said that she has been talking to federal prosecutors in that separate federal case. that is also related to the alleged shooting in that case. she said that prosecutors are considering the death penalty and she is providing them mitigating factors in hopes that they will not do that, she said that is where the most of her focus has been as they were leading up to this hearing today. so next time we'll see. mangione in state court will be in late june. he did not speak to anyone as he was led in and out of the courtroom. just kept a straight face looking forward
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as he was flanked by security. >> all this fanfare for just a status hearing at this point that only lasted 20 minutes. important, but not even the start of any trial here. kara scannell, really appreciate it. i want to bring in legal analyst and trial attorney mercedes colwin. now, you heard some of what kara was talking about as far as what we saw in court. i wonder what your reaction is to to some of the fanfare we've seen in and around the court and what you make of how the proceedings were handled today. >> that's a great question, omar, because it's exactly what the prosecutors should. >> focus on. these are your prospective jurors. there's an overwhelming support for luigi mangione, and they could conceivably be stelters in during the prosecution as this case proceeds along to trial. if i were the prosecutor, it would certainly start to really concern me that there is such support for him. when have we seen this. >> type of. >> support where even websites where there's cash flowing into
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the website. so he now. has half $1 million in that he's been able to aggregate. in a gofundme page on the website. so all of this is particularly troubling for the prosecution in terms of the case and how it proceeded in court. exactly how you described this is a status hearing. nothing more, nothing less. the judge wanted to make sure that the exchange of information from the prosecution to the defense was going through and going through in such a way that there will be a speedy trial, there will be a trial. presumably that wasn't one that was set today, and that was one of the questions that was being raised that possibly the judge would have been able to set a trial. but there's so much to be done in this case. there's still motion practice that needs to be heard. that's not going to be happening until june. presumably there will be experts and we'll have to see how it goes. we may not see a trial until early next year at this point. >> and look, you talked about the fanfare we saw. some of it is, well, we've seen so much of it around mangione. he also recently put out a statement
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from jail saying he reads all of the letters he gets from the many people that write to him. so i guess on both sides of this, is there a point where media strategy becomes part of the legal strategy, both for the prosecution and the defense? >> it's a very tricky tightrope to walk on. what do i say? that if the defense is is at least thinking about an insanity defense, which there's no whisper of that yet. but if during the course of continuing to have discussions with their client, they want to start to shape this type of defense, any sort of outreach that luigi mangione is doing to the public will certainly diminish the likelihood of success of an insanity defense at the time of trial, because he's outreach and you could see he sounds coherent. he's thanking the public. he's thanking them for the support. there is a way to continue communicating with them. he's urging and encouraging people to do so that he does read the communication that he receives. all of that doesn't speak of someone that
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lacked the ability to understand that what took place, if, in fact, he committed the crime, obviously he's presumed innocent, that he did not know what he was doing. >> so as the public follows along, prosecutors are following along just as closely, if not more, along with the defense, too. but we'll see what makes it through. when a trial date does come, whether in june or or further beyond. mercedes colwin really appreciate it. perfect. all right. just ahead, president trump finally admits that russia attacked ukraine, which it did, but blames the u.s. and zelenskyy for failing to prevent it. this, as some of his top officials are in ukraine working to reach a deal to end russia's war there. we'll bring you the latest coming up. >> on the lead with jake tapper today at 4:00 on cnn. >> get in on buy one foot long, get one free right now in the subway app. that's right. buy one foot long sub, get another free deals this good usually come with a two year contract.
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ukraine's president be at meetings. let's turn now to cnn chief national security correspondent alex marquardt. alex, the president's posturing towards zelenskyy. i mean, completely contradicts the words of his u.s. special envoy. i mean, what are we seeing between the two? >> yeah. >> i mean, trump just called him a dictator a few days ago, so we. >> haven't heard very nice things from him. but we do hear praise from from keith kellogg, who is dedicated to this ukrainian track. kellogg's just wrapping up a couple of days of meetings there in kyiv, and he posted on x at the end of these meetings that he spent time with the what he called the embattled and courageous leader of a nation at war and his talented national security team. so you have to imagine what kellogg is telling trump right now about how those those meetings went. now, kellogg was responding to an equally flattering, positive post from president zelenskyy, who was thanking kellogg for for being there. he said the meeting was one that restores hope, and he talked about the potential for a deal and the need for strong agreements on economy and security. guys, that is
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certainly a reference to the deal over these minerals that the u.s. and ukraine are trying to strike now. we heard president trump talking about how he wants hundreds of billions of dollars worth of these rare earth and other minerals in ukraine. president zelenskyy has said that that it's as much as 50% of the revenue from these different mines and these different minerals, and that's for past, uh, american support for ukraine. now, what's interesting is a ukrainian source told our colleague nick paton walsh in kyiv that there has to be security elements in this deal, and that almost certainly refers to not just more weaponry for ukraine, but these security guarantees. how do you make sure that russia never invades ukraine again? and ukraine wants to see european and american troops helping out? so that is really the big focus. now. what do these security guarantees look like? what is the american military presence, if any? we heard president trump say the other day that he doesn't want to see american troops inside ukraine. we did hear the national security adviser mike waltz talk about
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this deal earlier today. here's a little bit of what he said. >> here's the bottom line. president zelenskyy is going to sign that deal. uh, and you will see that in the very short term. and that is good for ukraine. what better could you have for ukraine than to be in an economic partnership with the united states? number one. and you know what? we have an obligation to you all. the american taxpayer, to recoup the hundreds of billions of dollars that have been invested in this war. >> so while they're talking about getting paid back, it's worth reminding everyone that when aid is given to ukraine, oftentimes it's old weaponry. it's bradley vehicles from the iraq war, it's cluster munitions that we no longer use. there are some newer stuff as well. but when we talk about hundreds of millions of dollars, those are dollars that our pentagon is now being allowed to invest back into american weapons manufacturers. but this does raise a lot of questions about how trump sees
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zelenskyy's role, and specifically his role at the table in negotiating what could be a peace deal with russia. >> yeah, i mean, it's interesting seeing cabinet members react in real time, sort of following where the president is going. alex marquardt really appreciate the reporting, as always. thank you. all right. still ahead for us, we are on the ground in west texas, where the number of measles cases continues to grow. we're going to show you how health officials are battling the illness and the anti-vaccine sentiment that's fueling it. >> and breaking news cnn is learning acting i.c.e. director caleb vitello has been removed from his post amid frustration over the pace of deportations. we will stay on this story. stay with cnn. >> the whole story. >> with anderson cooper. >> is a five time. >> emmy winner for. >> long form journalism. >> this week, microsoft. >> founder bill gates. >> joins anderson. >> for a special one on one. the whole. >> story with anderson cooper sunday at eight on. >> cnn. >> hey, sam.
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>> patients admitted here in our children's hospital with measles over the past several weeks. >> doctor laura johnson is the chief medical officer here. how do you even begin to approach as a patient comes in? what do you what do you do for them? >> most of the patients who've been admitted have. >> had respiratory issues. >> they've been. >> needing supplemental oxygen and respiratory support to help them get. over the viral pneumonia part that we see with measles. >> it's one thing to treat these patients on the ground. but the key in the middle of a measles outbreak is to try and prevent more cases from occurring. that's really challenging, given how contagious this is. appreciate it. hey, how are you doing, garcia? nice to meet you. how's it going? that's. that's the kind of the reaction we're getting. >> freezing weather and a measles outbreak. >> doctor jennifer shuford is the commissioner for the state health department. what do you think the next weeks and months is going to look like?
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>> um, i think that we're. >> going to continue. >> to see. cases and. >> what the next few months. >> look like. >> kind of depends on. >> how effective. >> we are at getting. >> messaging out. >> about, you know. making sure that people get vaccinated, that they stay at home if they're sick and and really trying to push that message through really trusted community leaders. >> you and i have been doctors for some time, i think maybe a bit longer than you, but but have you ever seen measles before? >> no. and i'm an infectious. disease physician. i've never diagnosed a case. >> that's incredible. >> it's because, you know, measles was declared eliminated from the united states back in the year 2000 because of the effectiveness of that vaccine. and it's only now with falling immunization rates, not just here in texas, but across the country and around the world, that we're starting to see more of these outbreaks. >> now, while most of the cases have been in a close knit, rural mennonite community, worry has started to spread. hello. how
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you doing? hey, i'm sanjay, nice to meet you too. how's it going? >> this is owen. >> hey, owen. >> owen was a micro-preemie. >> so he spent the first. >> 102 or 3. >> days in the hospital. >> and since. >> then, you know, with his weakened immune. >> system and. >> everything that he went through, we just don't. >> know how. >> he would handle the. >> measles. >> amy and eric gandhi have lived in lubbock for 20 years. >> and the good thing about it is. >> riley really likes getting shots. >> so we. now both their kids, 11 year old owen and nine year old riley, are vaccinated. but that's the thing about outbreaks. low vaccination rates can put vulnerable people in danger. >> i mean, it's really i. >> think it's. >> time that. everybody like, takes a look just. at your political reasons. >> or your.
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>> religious reasons. um, and kind of think about. >> that group of. >> people and. >> the new or. >> the old information about vaccines and really. >> take a deep. look into. what it is that you really believe and why you really. >> believe that. >> you just set this up when outbreak is happening. you say, set. >> it up. >> this week, doctor ron cook is with the lubbock health authority. >> we've got plenty of vaccine, but we just need people to come get it. >> hi. >> and are people coming in? >> they did 13. >> yesterday. >> 23 yesterday 23. >> okay. how would you describe what's going on here? >> we have pockets. >> that are not. >> well vaccinated. >> but these individuals like in in gaines county down there that that come to shop here we have costco and. sam's and walmart's and they come here to do big shopping on the weekends. and they bring their kids and they
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walk through costco, or they walk through these big shopping centers, and then they're exposing these people. >> it's why they believe this outbreak is likely to continue for weeks, if not months, and why every shot here will make a difference. dr. sanjay gupta, cnn, lubbock, texas. >> our thanks to sanjay for that report. and in a matter of minutes here, the los angeles county district attorney is expected to provide an update on the menendez brothers case ahead of their scheduled resentencing. we are live from l.a. right after this. >> i'm dr. sanjay gupta in atlanta, and this is cnn. >> a sleep number. smart bed is perfect for couples. the climate 360. smart bed is the only bed that cools and warms on each side. and all our smart beds adjust the firmness for each of you and now save 50% on the new sleep number. limited edition smart bed shop a sleep number store near you. >> when i started walton goggins goggle glasses, i had no idea what i was doing, but godaddy
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breaking news. israel says it is preparing to receive a body said to be of hamas hostage shiri bibas. >> this after the body of a woman was returned yesterday, along with the remains of the bibas two sons, was found not to be their mother. shiri. let's get straight to cnn global affairs analyst kim dozier. hamas calling this a mixup. kim, it has seriously threatened this already fragile ceasefire. and i think what this really comes down to is certainly this had better be her. what if it is not? >> yeah. well, the body of shiri bibas was being held by another group, not hamas. so that is hamas reason for the confusion. but we've got a an exchange scheduled for tomorrow of six living israeli hostages for a number of palestinian prisoners. so the pressure was really on hamas to come up with the
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remains, especially after israel's president, israel's prime minister bibi netanyahu, had promised revenge against hamas for this mixup and also for the state of the bodies of the two sons. the bibas sons. because the idf has come out with a conclusion that they were actually killed brutally by hand, not killed in a air strike, as hamas had originally claimed. >> and as we understand right now, a body has been handed over to the red cross. again, we are expecting that to be the body of hostage shiri bibas. but of course, confirmations are ongoing right now, so we'll bring you updates on that when we have them. but kim, along those lines, look, the context of this is we've been in the middle of a ceasefire agreement, a fragile one, i think is fair to say, with more hostages expected to be released tomorrow. when you look at the context of this cease fire and of course, the language of netanyahu calling this a brazen
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violation to to this point, how optimistic are you that this agreement will hold much longer than this weekend, if we even get to that point? >> it really is looking dicey because netanyahu knows that if he goes through with phase two, which means withdrawing the idf out of the corridor between gaza and egypt, he could pull apart his government. part of his coalition has threatened to pull out, and that would trigger new elections. so he doesn't want to go there. he has told trump he wants to return to fighting and the president, in an interview today, indicated he didn't mind if it went either way. either the negotiations went on to phase two and more hostages were eventually released, or israel returned to fighting, especially after three bombs. three busses were exploded in israel yesterday, though no one was killed. there's a mood in israel that the danger very much
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is ever present, and that hamas is still a threat, and the public at least, is in the mood. it seems to go back to war. >> and what about the pressure from families? because we should note that even after this phase, there are many, many more hostages, including those connected to the israeli military. israeli americans like edan alexander, who are still there. >> yes, because hamas was waiting to release anyone that the group considered a soldier or anyone who had been captured in uniform until the second part of this negotiation, the tougher part of the negotiation, because it requires more concessions from both sides. and the families have asked, including the family of shiri bibas have said, hey, instead of revenge, let's ask for all the hostages back. let's get them back first. plus are the remains of the rest of our loved ones
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before any going back to war. because as many israelis will tell you, including the family members, that i've gotten to speak to, israel can go back to war at any point. there's a very finite and dangerous existence. those remaining hostages are living right now. >> yeah. so very true. kim dozier, thank you for that. we appreciate it. we do have more breaking news we're following. a federal judge letting the trump administration move forward with dismantling the u.s. agency for international development, or usaid. the trump administration has moved to drastically cut down the agency's funding and global workforce. unions representing usaid workers had challenged the process in federal court. we'll be right back. >> with our thoughts. >> and prayers are with those whose lives. >> were tragically. >> taken. >> the dots all start to connect together. >> somebody did this purposely. >> to. these people.
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>> to. >> that university of michigan. >> consumer sentiment. >> survey that we got at 10 a.m. this morning. you see. the dow just. really taking a turn. >> down right. >> now 760 points. >> and this is because what happens in this survey. >> is it revealed. >> that. >> consumer sentiment was falling. >> people were feeling worse about the economy. and when people feel worse. >> about the. >> economy. >> they tend not to spend. and so. >> then what does that. >> mean for. >> businesses doing well. well. >> investors are concerned. >> about what the business community is going to look like, look like if people are not spending. and that is why you. >> see those numbers. >> in red right now. but this consumer. >> sentiment survey. >> really paints a. picture about how every americans feel. >> and it dropped by 10%. >> in february. we get two readings. >> we got a. >> reading in the beginning of february which. showed that. >> consumer sentiment was down about 5%. >> but we got a new reading today that showed that it had fallen even. >> more, 9.8%. >> close to. 10% there. the why? well, americans.
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>> are concerned. >> about tariffs. how much are things going to cost them at the end of the day? >> and then that's a reflection. >> on their. personal finances. people concerned about what their bank accounts are going to look like. and then the long term impact of this survey, they ask about how are you feeling. about inflation over the. next year and then over the next 5 to 10 years. well, both outlooks were very pessimistic from americans. and this really trended across age. income level and wealth. there was a distinction though, in this survey., democrats. and independents were feeling worse about. >> the. >> economy, worse about inflation. republicans though feeling feeling less worried, willing to give the president a little more time to do his job, bring down prices as he said he was going to do. >> well, and a lot of consumer sentiment comes down to, you know, how much are things costing at the grocery store? we know, for one, eggs have been extremely elevated in price, and we're learning turkey will now sell about turkey. the country will now sell about 420 million
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eggs to the u.s. by the end of the year, so it could help with egg prices there. but how did turkey, the country, end up providing eggs to the u.s.? >> yeah, well, the u.s. is a huge supplier of our own eggs. we produce about 7.5 billion eggs every single year. but as you. guys know, there's an egg shortage and. prices are really high right now. so we. >> are turning. >> to really our only importer of eggs, turkey, to try to bring more eggs into this country. 420 million by the end of this year. >> that's six times. >> what turkey. normally sends us, but hopefully this will help alleviate prices. but if this avian flu goes on in the way that it has, the american farm bureau thinks that a lot more is going to have to be done. this is a temporary fix. this is not a fix for fixing prices, guys. >> good to know. and we're not eating turkey eggs. they're still chicken eggs. vanessa yurkevich. thank you very much. and the le

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