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pamela brown in atlanta. 14 hours. that is how long federal workers have to justify their jobs to elon musk, or potentially risk losing them. employees received an email over the weekend telling them to describe the work they did last week. by midnight eastern, musk took to x to warn that failure to respond will be taken as a resignation, even though that wasn't in the actual email. but leaders at several agencies, including the fbi, are pushing back and telling staffers not to reply. and that is notable because obviously some of these are people that trump himself put into these positions. cnn's rene marsh joins us now. rene, so much confusion over this email. i know i was hearing from federal workers over the weekend. which departments are telling their workers not to respond? >> well, pamela, as you said, the fbi, department of homeland security, state department, the pentagon, as you can imagine, many of those workers have sensitive issues that they are

working on. and putting out bullet points within an email of what they've been working on for the past week. it clearly is outside the chain of command at these agencies. and so in those cases, those employees have been told to hold on this request from elon musk. of course, this email came after the president said over the weekend that he wanted to see elon musk getting more aggressive with the cuts to the federal government. then you saw this email come out to all of the federal workers. i've heard one scenario of friends of mine who were in chipotle and actually saw the moment when two federal workers received the information on their email address, and many of them just kind of mouth wide open. first of all, many federal workers are not even required to check work email over the weekend. but in speaking with unions, they say that this just amounts to harassment. so we are expecting some legal pushback on this. pamela. even republican lawmakers, some of them have

questioned the legality of what elon musk's team is asking for here. but really, back to this issue of how the unions are seeing it, this idea that this is really harassment. you're talking about a workforce that is not even sure if their jobs are going to stay or go. well, whether they'll lose their job. there's a segment of the workforce who's already on paid leave and does not have access to their i.t. systems, their work phones and their work emails. and then there's a set of employees who have been fired. so there's a lot going on. let's talk about the mental health part of this. there's a lot of stress that these employees are undergoing. and and that might really be the point here of making it so uncomfortable to work within the federal government that these individuals choose to leave on their own. all of that said, we do expect pamela to, as this deadline approaches of 11:59 p.m. this evening, we do expect to hear that there will be some legal pushback, mainly from the

unions who are saying that this is this is just not how you go about it and it's just not legal. >> and we have a guest just like that coming up. rene marsh, thank you so much. i want to bring in doreen greenwald. she is the president of the national treasury employees union. bottom line, how do you view this email? >> thank you for having me. once again, this was an email that was sent out by opm directly to employees, and it hit on the weekend and it hit to all mailboxes, including supervisors and executives within each of the federal agencies. it hit without anybody knowing what it was intended to do. and so it sent everybody scrambling to figure out, is it even a true email? and second of all, how should employees respond? and so it really caused a lot of unnecessary chaos over the weekend. um, as your prior guest said, most federal employees don't have access to their government email during the

weekend. many of the agencies that we represent, such as customs and border protection, they're on the job working throughout the weekend and often don't have access to their email. people at the national park service may not have access to wi-fi. it caused a lot of questions for people who may be on leave and how they were supposed to respond, or if they were supposed to respond. so we've been pushing back at agencies to get clarification on what their expectations are, because, again, opm does not have direct line authority for these employees, and they're used to addressing the chain of command. >> so what are you hearing back? you said you're seeking clarity. have you heard anything back. and what are you advising these employees to do right now? >> well, it's been a shift throughout the weekend. initially we heard from some agencies that required employees to respond. they later pulled that back. um, to say that they would respond on behalf of the employees. some agencies are waiting and have asked people to

pause until noon today, so we're still waiting on additional information. and again, employees report to their chain of command. they the chain of command knows exactly what employees are working on. they are the ones who assigned their work duties. they track their leave. they track their time. so this email just caused a lot of confusion for really no purpose because there are management chain chains in place to address these things. >> earlier this month, you also advised federal workers not to accept the trump administration's buyout offer. did you find that a lot of employees took that advice? what are you hearing as you speak to them? >> so employees continue to be confused by these odd emails that are coming directly to them. and so what we've heard and what has been reported in the media, is that around 2% of the people took, um, that offer, uh, we advised against the offer because it really has no

guarantees within it. um, the documents requested employees to waive all their rights and gave the government complete discretion. and so if anything is not lived up to as offered, the employee has no recourse. and so we believe employees did follow our guidance. many employees were at a position where they could retire anyway. and so they said, well, i will throw my hat in the ring. but that was not the the bulk of employees. >> obviously, so much of this is unprecedented. unprecedented. and as you know, some americans are really applauding this. i mean, in their view, they're watching this and they're saying, finally, you know, we are, uh, helping to look at the government, clear it out, clear out the waste and so forth. what do you say to those americans who are applauding this effort? >> i'm disappointed because i think they need to check their facts. first of all, the federal government is doing the work that congress has asked it to

do. federal employees come to work. they're assigned duties based on their skill, knowledge and experience, and they're delivering for the american people that the federal workforce is less than 1% of the total federal budget. and somehow federal employees have been vilified as the problem behind what makes this this country. everybody agrees that there could be efficiencies. they should be working with federal employees to identify areas where things could be improved and save money. instead, what has happened here is we have the federal government who congress passed the budget. each agency addresses its mission. it hires the people that it needs to do that mission. and without any input from the agencies themselves, they've gone forward and stopped the hiring. they have taken away probationary employees, which were key to meeting the agency missions, and they have sent

just a shockwave through the entire civil service system. so this is not a matter of, um, saving funds in any way. it's about disrupting the services of government. >> to follow up with you on this quickly, i want to get your reaction to this meme that was posted by president trump over the weekend, appearing to mock federal workers being threatened with this deadline. as you see right here on the screen, it features spongebob squarepants and implies the responses from workers just find their jobs might include things like crying about trump or reading some emails. if you could say anything to the president right now, what would it be? >> i would say, as the commander in chief, you have a civil service of federal employees who come to work every day to do and serve the american people. they are not your enemies. they stand ready to work with you. and i would encourage him to work with the federal workforce so that he has the the force available to him to accomplish his goals.

>> doreen greenwald, thank you. i want to discuss more now with democratic congressman sean casten of illinois. congressman, thanks for being here. how do you view what's happening right now with federal employees in the government? >> i am deeply offended. and let's just take this for at three levels. number one, what the last guest said is absolutely right. this is a violation of labor contracts, labor law. we should say no. number two, from a national security perspective, what possible good comes from asking people who are doing classified work to report through an unsecured email server what they were doing last week, which is why the secretary of defense, the head of nsa, the head of the fbi, have told their employees not to comply. number three, purely from a managerial perspective, i want people who are listening to imagine that you got this email tomorrow from your boss's boss's boss's boss's boss, who knows nothing about what you do, who who is essentially telling every intermediary that they are doing a bad job. this would be like tim cook sending that email to

every single apple store employee. if tim cook did that, we would say tim cook is past his due date and doesn't know how to run a company anymore. that's the issue right now. so my strong advice to all of our federal employees is you took an oath to the constitution. you took an oath to your country. you did not take an oath to this sundowning and incompetent person running the white house. >> i'll ask you what i asked, doreen. >> i've been hearing from people all over the country in response to this. we've seen some of these town halls with members of congress where they've gotten a little rowdy and there has been backlash, but there's also been some constituents there of different members of congress who are applauding this, and they're enthusiastic about what's happening with the federal government right now. what do you say to those americans? >> well, i can tell you, having done a town hall of myself last weekend, there is tremendous fear. there is tremendous anger. there was nobody who came up to the town hall and said, can you please allow elon musk to steal more information from the treasury? can you please allow

donald trump to break our government down more? i think we need to be careful not to confuse the volume of some of the noise on social media with the number of americans who are who are deeply concerned about this right now. um, are there people who misunderstand how the federal government works? yeah, there are. and i think that's the result of both elected officials and certain media outlets who have somehow demonized the idea that we want good people running our air traffic control system. we want good people running our military. we want good people in our cia telling those people that they are valueless unless they provide, you know, sort of office space level tps reports is you might as well be carrying out russian foreign policy. >> um, that's interesting. and you said you just had a town hall recently. i wonder, as a member of congress, have you ever seen the kind of response to what is happening in washington, like you have seen with this from your constituents? >> so when, when, when elon musk and his and his crew hacked into the treasury payment system, we received more phone calls in that week than i have received

on any topic in my six years in congress. we did a town hall the next day because we wanted to sort of make sure that we were addressing these. we did it with 24 hours notice on the telephone. we had 30,000 people who dialed into that town hall. the this was with 24 hours notice on a town hall that took place at 1:00 on a thursday. people are really, really angry. people understand the stakes of this moment. and i would just remind everybody that the vast majority of americans, regardless of who they voted for, are not under any illusions about whether russia is our enemy or not, under any illusions about whether the good guys won the civil war or not, under any illusions about whether competition in a meritocracy is the right way for us to grow. um, and as long as those good people are making their voices heard, we're going to be okay. but people are understandably afraid right now. >> i want to follow up on russia. you mentioned that a couple of times. today marks three years since russia's invasion of ukraine. some of the trump administration's top

officials were asked if russia started the war. let's listen to how they responded. >> but fair to say russia attacked unprovoked into ukraine three years ago tomorrow. >> fair to say it's a very complicated situation. >> we all can agree that nobody wants to see a bully win and win more territory. can you acknowledge that russia is the aggressor here? >> well, you know what? who would you rather have and go toe to toe with the likes of vladimir putin, kim jong un, xi or anyone else, joe biden or donald trump? he's the dealmaker in chief. >> the war didn't need to happen. it was provoked. it doesn't necessarily mean it was provoked by the russians. >> congressman, what do you think is going on here? >> um, why is the republican party parroting the talking points of the russian government? i mean, these are russian propaganda points. it is. it is insane to say that when russia invaded crimea, when they invaded again, that ukraine was the aggressor. i would also

point out that when when we provided aid to ukraine, we decimated the russian army without putting one american's life in harm's way. we provided military assistance. we provided intelligence. as a result of that, we strengthened the post-world war two order. finland, sweden, who had long been not in nato, made a path to join nato because they understood the existential threat created by russia in 35 days. donald trump, with the acquiescence of the republican party, has undone that. and i wish i could say i'm surprised, because when we voted on the floor to provide aid to ukraine, the majority of my republican colleagues voted against that package. it passed overwhelmingly. it was overwhelmingly bipartisan, but the majority of the republicans voted against that aid. why? they are carrying out russian foreign policy is a question we need to ask very closely. but it's scary. >> so to follow up with you, what if the strategy here. >> is, look, in order to get vladimir putin to come to the table to agree to any peace

deal, we have to sort of appease him. we don't want to poke the bear. you know, if we if we blame him for the invasion and criticize him too much, then he will never come to sign on to a peace deal. but maybe this approach he would. and if this ends the war, this strategy, this approach, what would you say? >> why can't the united states president show the same kind of leadership that vladimir zelenskyy showed? right? if you were intimidated by vladimir putin, you should not be the president of the united states. what we did in the last term to stand up to putin, as i said, it strengthened nato. we provided sanctions that crippled the russian economy. um, we are on the way to actually making sure that we we drastically weaken the only other country with the ability to blow up the entire world with nuclear weapons. this is the existential threat to the united states. if you find it hard to stand up to vladimir putin, then by definition, you are incapable of being in a position of leadership in the

united states, representing the united states interests. one more to talk about this and saying we need to bring an end to this war. we don't want war. but they took land from ukraine. if ukraine says the war is over, the war is over, telling ukraine we are going to force russia to take that land, says we're going to get rid of the entire post-world war two order. >> there is a senior ukrainian official also telling cnn that a deal to give the u.s. rights to minerals in ukraine is in the final stages. it's unclear if the u.s. will provide any security assurances to ukraine in exchange. initially, that wasn't part of the deal. what do you think about this? do you think this approach could help resolve the conflict? you've heard of some of donald trump's officials in the administration say russia doesn't like this deal at all. >> i would rather see long term peace with a partner in europe than a short term extraction contract to make a few bucks. >> all right. congressman sean casten, member of the house financial services committee, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> right now, french president

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peacekeeping force being needed. if the conditions are correct and the u.s. provided logistical support. but really, it is the horrific week that we've had over the past seven days in which the relationship between president trump and president zelenskyy clearly deteriorated significantly, and that has many concerns about what that may mean for future u.s. aid. here's what zelenskyy had to say when i asked him if he could fix that. do you think you can mend your relationship with president trump? and secondly, have the american side spelt out to you what happens if you don't come to an agreement over this rare earth minerals deal? in terms of what it means for u.s. aid. >> as i said, we want a successful agreement. and if we will understand each other with partners, i hope that it will be. we will sign this the first agreement. my relationship with president trump. it's never was in such. best way.

>> awkward after here, but a very harsh reality that that acrimonious week has essentially left much of the key plank of ukrainian support, military and financial in doubt. until those two men, somehow, it seems, find a rapprochement. >> is also demanding. a ukrainian mineral deal as well. what are you learning about that? >> yeah, that has been the hot topic. really. the bone of contention. the thing without a resolution, of which it seems so much in terms of trump administration's support for ukraine, is in doubt. now, we understand that that draft of that deal has been finalized and ukrainian side have sent it to the americans waiting for american response, according to ukrainian sources familiar with the negotiations. but this source describes it as a framework for ukrainian reconstruction. now, i think that's a bit of a positive spin upon what the trump administration has been asking for. but this ukrainian source is clear that some of the worst

issues for ukraine have been taken out. zelenskyy yesterday was talking about half $1 trillion, being the initial ask from the trump administration in terms of reimbursement for what he said was grants. he denied the notion that ukraine was somehow in debt. but the source tells us two, the security guarantees that ukraine so urgently wants, they're not in that deal. and it appears that this essentially will be some sort of framework, umbrella statement about the intent to have deals, the technical details of which the real cut and thrust, the ugly stuff will be dealt with in separate documentation. the hope being that the security guarantees might be something that trump and zelenskyy can discuss themselves as this ukrainian source. no date for that no agreement on that. but i think the hope that somehow they can heal this relationship. >> nick paton. thank you. >> and new this morning. apple announcing a $500 billion investment in u.s. facilities. is this a tactic to avoid new tariffs or a good faith effort to boost the u.s. economy. or both? that's next.

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implemented a 10% tariff on all goods imported from china, which is where apple makes a lot of its products, most of its iphones. so i do think that this could be a way for apple to try to avoid some of those tariffs. of course, these facilities won't be up and running overnight, so it may be that apple is trying to gain favor with trump and potentially seek an exemption to some of these tariffs, which it did during trump's first term as well. trump had hinted that this was coming. he met with apple ceo tim cook last week, and then he thanked the company in a truth social post this morning, saying that it showed faith in his policies. this investment is going to cover a number of facilities and efforts, including a new factory in houston that is expected to create servers for artificial intelligence, computing that is expected to open later this year. apple said it will also invest in more production of apple tv plus shows in the united states, and start a new academy to train small and medium businesses on how to incorporate and use artificial intelligence. pamela. so really, a wide ranging investment here.

>> yeah, certainly a positive for the united states. clare duffy thank you so much. also this morning, a judge has just paused some of doj's access to sensitive data at the department of education and u.s. office of personnel management. as elon musk and his team continue to overhaul the federal government. but what is the potential economic fallout of running the government like a silicon valley startup, basically? joining us now for more on this is edward luce, u.s. national editor for the financial times. hi, edward. so what do you think about this move fast and break things approach to the federal government? >> well, it's i think, a classic mistake that people make, which is to think that government is like a private business and should be run like a private business. this is sort of over and above that. um. category error in that musk is seeking to run it like a startup, like like he's a founder. and this is a

startup we saw when he took over twitter. he got rid of 80% of the staff, including the trust and safety people. um, and he's taking that same sort of approach that we saw, i guess, uh, personified by him wielding that chainsaw on stage at cpac last week. the history of business people running government like it is a business is not a good one. >> why? >> i mean, because some people think it is, as we've seen some americans think this is great. why? what historically have we learned from this approach, even though what we are seeing now on the scale is certainly unprecedented? >> um, well, because government isn't a business. i mean, you know, it has a very, very different role institutionally in society. a lot of the things that we're now seeing sparking, um, these town hall protests and, and arguments with republican congressmen back in

their districts because people are seeing things like the park services or the cdc in atlanta. um, or food inspectors, um, in their states, they're seeing people lose their jobs that they do actually value or are coming to value. there is a sense here that, you know, it's a bit like good health. you only really know it's worth when you lose it. um, but that that's that's the kind of popular impact we're getting because it's, i guess, in a way, what musk is giving us inadvertently is an instruction in the hidden value of government and the hidden value of having safety inspectors, you know, and having people who research diseases and combat avian flu and and so on, uh, air traffic control and, um, i guess the hope is that we don't lose this before before people fully value it. >> i want to drill down a little bit more on this, because i've certainly heard from people who

say, well, layoffs happen all the time in private companies. you know, um, why is this so different? the sort of mass layoffs in the federal government in terms of the impact on the country and the potential impact on the on the economy. >> um, so a couple of things. first of all, um, for sure, the federal government should be streamlined for sure. there are regulations that are probably unnecessary and inhibitive of economic activity. and for sure, there are parts of there are there are dead wood. um, corners in many federal agencies. but this takes time to find out, which is why the, um, chainsaw is such an inapt metaphor. it's a scalpel you need. you need to figure out which areas are functioning well, which areas can be dispensed with. uh, this is an enormous, complex organism. um, and musk is taking

the move fast and break things approach you. you're just not going to get the kinds of, um, informed choices, um, that you would have if you were if you were studying what you were doing. secondly, though, um, if you look at the share of federal employees, um, of the labor force, it's at an historic low. this isn't bloated. um, this is lower than it's been, um, since before the second world war. so, i mean, let's not get carried away in saying this is a vast, sort of kafka esque operation. there are real problems in terms of responsiveness, um, and in terms of regulations in the federal government, no doubt about it. but the rate and the manner in which musk is approaching it is a cure worse than the disease. >> well, what. >> i just want to go back to sort of the direct impact. do you think all of this could have on the economy, as you know, the

economy is a big driver for for politics, right? i mean, that's part of why donald trump was elected into office. what do you think some of these moves could mean for the economy? prices at the grocery store? um, and, and what do you think about trump's claims that doge is saving taxpayers billions of dollars per day, and that this is all part of his master plan to help the economy? >> well, i'm starting with the billions of dollars per day. i mean, doge itself has put out a $55 billion, which is annual claimed saving, but some of those are duplicated. some of those have been, um, actually disproven already, but most of them, he hasn't shown his work yet. it's just a number, um, that he's claiming. um, so the real stated purpose of doge is to cut public spending. um, what it is mostly doing, um, is, is cutting regulatory capacity. now

that's something quite different, uh, and has a very different economic effect than reducing the federal deficit, um, which is going to be extremely hard and which congress needs to approve that the action is on capitol hill next month when government funding runs out mid, mid march. um, i think if you if you see a continuation of the path that musk has been on, which is gutting agencies that regulate his businesses, we're going to get a much more cynical and angry public reaction. um, because the conflict of interest here is really enormous. >> it cannot be ignored. he has billions of dollars worth of contracts in front of various government agencies. some of those agencies in which he is going in and essentially getting rid of personnel and having access to the systems, um, as well. edward luce, thank you so much. we appreciate it. >> thank you.

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produce a lot of here in the united states. but then there's the chunky, gunky tar sands oil, basically like coffee grounds, champagne, coffee grounds. well, we pump a lot of the champagne, but we run our economy on a lot of the coffee ground. the heavy, gunky. all of our refineries around the country, which go back to the 1930s, were built for the kind of oil which we were importing in those days back from saudi arabia. and so if you look around the country, there are refineries on the gulf coast of mexico. they're in, which produce kind of the variety of both heavy the champagne and the coffee they can produce. but most of it around the country, especially in the midwest, is reliant on that canadian oil for their products and their bottom line. and so it doesn't make any sense. here's the breakdown of u.s. oil production. 80% of it is champagne. and so we export the country does about 15 million barrels a day of this champagne oil to the rest of the world. only about 19% is the

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