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>> you never pay full price. seize the deals on top names. >> before they're gone. >> shopper.com today. >> mass protest. >> resignation 21 federal. >> employees quit over. >> elon musk's doge efforts. >> the workers are described. >> as the most skilled. >> people leading. >> work on critical. >> projects across. >> the government. we'll take a closer look at the fallout. >> plus. >> defense secretary pete hegseth. >> goes to gitmo, the very base where suspected terrorists have been held, now being used to house deported migrants. we'll tell you what we know about this visit. and newly unsealed court documents in the idaho quadruple murder case ahead. we're in to tell you what we're learning about dna evidence used to find the suspect, along with new details from a surviving roommate. we're following these developing stories and many more, all coming in right here to cnn news center.
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>> we do begin the. >> hour. >> with breaking news. >> more than 20 federal employees. >> who had been. >> working for elon musk's. >> doge just resigned. >> in what is beinse >> digital service before. >> the agency became the. >> department of government efficiency. >> cnn's sunlen serfaty is covering. this breaking story. these, we should mention are some of the top technology experts. >> in the government. what more are you learning? >> they are they are highly skilled workers, brianna. these are the top of the top that have been in federal government for years. we're talking engineers, designers, data scientists, project managers. and the way it was described to me, these are people who are taking place in leading some of the most critical projects across the government. now, this was according to my source. i spoke today of mass protests, 21 total technology workers, which is certainly significant and specifically against protesting
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against doj's efforts. the source tells me it is people who don't want to be a part of this. for this group, it is a protest. they just don't want to be a part of this. and the resignation letter, which we have now obtained, notably the resignation letter, was specifically spelled out that they addressed this to susie wiles, the white house chief of staff. and in the letter they say in part, quote, we will not use our skills as technologists to compromise core government systems, jeopardize americans sensitive data, or dismantle critical public services. and they go on to add, we will not lend our expertise to carry out or legitimize doj's actions. and the source i spoke to about this said that this goes back to, obviously, the valentine's day firings that we've reported a lot about. the next tuesday was the first time the staff meeting was called and led by a doge employee for the very first time. and the message from this doge employee to this specific team as part as usd, u.s. digital services, the message was let's turn the page. i know
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it's been a hard time, but let's keep going forward. and this source says that that did not go over very well within the group. and then that set off this discussion on what can we do. what is there to save? do we really want to stay here. and that this decision was made among this very small team, that we should go ahead and resign in protest on the same day? and that day is today. and they and the source noted, who is still there, noted that they expect more resignations to follow. >> will they. >> have a significant negative impact on what. doge is doing, or. >> will this. >> just be kind of a drop in the bucket and more symbolic? >> this particular team at usgs was 163. they lost 43 on the valentine's day firing. and then you drop down another 21 today. so we're looking at those numbers deteriorating within this team at usgs. but keep in mind, these are people that know a lot of things about how the federal government work. they are engineers, data scientists. these are people with access to critical information systems. so the sign of that, many of them are going to potentially many
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more does not portend a very good future for. >> yeah, it's a good point. >> all right. thank you so much for the report, omar. >> well, brianna, we're also following shifting guidance surrounding elon musk's. what did you do last week? email and whether federal workers can be fired if they don't respond? well, we've learned updated guidance was sent out late last night by the office of personnel management in this new guidance, which was obtained by cnn. replies to musk's email are not described as voluntary, and it leaves the door open for employees to be penalized for not responding. now, the new memo was sent out just minutes after musk posted on x that workers would be given another chance to respond to the email and that, quote, failure to respond a second time will result in termination. cnn's rene marsh joins us now. and, rene, look, earlier, opm said one thing, then another thing comes out. what is actually going on here? >> you know, the question is, what do people do and who do
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they follow and what will happen to them if they don't follow the instructions or comply with this email? and the answer is it may not be satisfying, is it remains to be seen. and it really depends on which agency you're at as far as what instructions you're supposed to follow. so, for example, at the justice department and the defense department, they told their employees not to comply, but at the transportation and the education department, they told their employees that they should comply. but this all started over the weekend. but once workers came back to work, the confusion really only intensified. i want you to just take a look at the back and forth. on monday alone, they arrived at work after musk threatened that they must comply with this email or face termination by 6 p.m. that change to replying was voluntary, and then about an hour later, musk doubled down, doubles down, and he says that there will be terminations if they don't comply with his email
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request. and by the end of the night on monday, a new memo stating that employees should send their responses to their agency heads and agencies and i'm quoting, should review responses and evaluate non responses and consider factors like whether employees are on excused leave. the bottom line is this has left the federal workforce, which is already sort of mentally shaken from all of the layoffs and the paid leave. now this is just added more chaos and confusion into the mix. the labor unions, who represent a lot of these federal workers, they remain, uh, with the stance that this is illegal and that that these federal employees are not obligated by law to report to anyone outside of their chain of command, beyond their managers, within their agencies. and the union calling it just another example of chaos and the callous nature of how the trump administration is treating the federal
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employees. so that's where we're at. but again, still so many people asking me the question via text message. these are federal employees whose direction should we listen to? we're just unclear. >> and there's been a lot of direction coming from all sorts of places going back to even friday. rene marsh really appreciate you staying on top of all of it for us. thank you. brianna. >> sure. let's talk. >> now to a federal worker. >> doctor matthew brown is a neuroscientist. >> and a postdoctoral fellow. >> at the national. >> institutes of health. he's also the recording secretary for. >> the union, nih. fellows united. and doctor. >> brown, we should note, is. >> speaking in his. >> personal capacity. >> not on behalf of nih. so. >> doctor brown, we. >> should note here in the. >> last week, 1100 people have been fired. >> at nih while. >> research funding. >> has been put on hold. walk us through what that means. >> well, brianna. >> thank you so much for the opportunity. >> to speak about this. >> i'm i'm really happy to. >> be here. um.
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>> but yes. >> the, uh. >> the funding freezes and the terminations at the. nih will have a dire effect. on health care for americans. >> in the future. >> the work that we do here at the. >> nih. >> and the work that goes. >> uh. >> that goes on. at institutions outside of the nih, is things like finding cures for cancer, finding treatments for alzheimer's, finding preventions for chronic diseases. and with the halt to funding that we're seeing and the terminations that we're seeing at nih. >> itself. >> that work will be put on hold indefinitely or potentially canceled, and that's going to have a dire effect on americans healthcare. >> i spoke. >> with one. fired federal employee who had a key research position at the ground zero health program, which is in charge of tracking, making sure that people who are exposed to toxic air at ground zero, some of whom are now suffering very serious respiratory conditions, cancers, that they get the
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treatment that they should be getting. uh, do you get the sense that there was an awareness on the part of the trump administration about the kinds of people they were getting rid of with this first round of firings? >> well, i. >> certainly can't speak to the motivations of the trump administration besides the fact that they want to sow chaos and discord among the federal workforce. uh, you know, here at the nih, we are working tirelessly, often on nights and weekends, to do these things that i mentioned before, like work on cancer and heart disease. and, uh, we shouldn't have to do things like opt into our jobs, uh, from emails from people who are not our managers sent in the afternoon on a weekend, um, in order to continue doing that for the american public. and so, uh, whether or not they are aware of the hard work that we do is somewhat immaterial, really, what this is, is it's an attack on federal workers. they want
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our jobs to feel more precarious and unsafe than they really are. and, uh, no matter what, they want to attack the hard work that we do for americans. >> did you get the email asking what you did at your job last week? >> it's funny you should ask. i actually did not receive that email. and among the 5000 researchers of our union, the vast majority of whom did not receive that email. but we did receive the six or 7 or 8 follow up emails telling us how to respond to the email that we never got in the first place. and this really goes to the disordered and chaotic rollout, if you can call it that, of of this strange email. uh, it really was not thought out well. it was not meant to improve efficiency. it was not meant. it was not made to make our government work better. it actually had a severely deleterious effect on the federal workforce. >> and so real quickly, are you going to respond to it then?
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>> no, i'm not planning on responding to the email that i never received in the first place. and i don't think any other federal worker should have to either. >> okay. so i want to ask you, because i was and i think a lot of people are reading about some of the things, for instance, that the federal government does or that nih does, and one of the things i saw, for instance, was a breakthrough in what is now so popular, these glp one medications that started actually as research in lizard saliva decades ago. and to that point, i wonder what you would say to people who look at some of these things that kind of look strange as they're being researched, but ultimately might lead to some kind of breakthrough. or maybe they don't, but you're not going to know unless you look at it. what do you say to people who have questions about that kind of research?
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>> well, it's it's a valid concern. it's it's difficult to see the path between lizard saliva and ozempic. and it's understandable that there would be some confusion over that. but the fact of the matter is that at the nih and at the institutions that are receiving funding from nih, we are trying to tackle some of the most complex questions that have ever happened in biomedical sciences. there's no easy answer to curing alzheimer's disease. there's no easy answer to preventing heart disease. and so to get to these answers, those require years and years of very hard work by some of the most dedicated scientists that i've ever had the pleasure of working with. and getting to those answers is just not always going to be a straightforward path. if there was something easy out there, we wouldn't be dealing with these diseases, right? and so, yes, sometimes the path can be complicated and not very obvious at first. but that
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shouldn't stop us from trying. that shouldn't make us throw our hands up and throw away americans health care just so that just because it's not immediately obvious what some of this work might end up being. >> doctor brown, thanks for being with us. it's so important to get an inside look and we appreciate it. >> it's my pleasure. thank you so much. >> ahead this hour on cnn news central, gearing up for an intraparty fight and a possible government shutdown. house leadership saying it will vote on its budget blueprint as soon as tonight. despite a number of republican lawmakers saying they won't support it. and then later, court documents have just been unsealed in the bryan kohberger case. here's what prosecutors just revealed about the alleged murder weapon. >> cooked books. >> corporate fat cats. >> swindling socialites. >> doped up cyclists. >> and yes, more crooked politicians. >> i have a feeling. >> we won't be running out of. >> those anytime soon.
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corps in the room. that's why you all. >> get paid. >> to be here. obviously, we are all. >> on the edge of our seats as. >> speaker johnson behind closed. >> doors, is really scrambling. >> to get. >> the votes. >> that he needs to pass. >> this budget resolution. >> a critical. >> first step. >> to advancing. >> donald trump's agenda ahead in the next several weeks. now, one of the key questions remains whether or not johnson can sort of square the circle around the fact. >> that. >> there are conservatives who believe that this. >> budget blueprint. >> doesn't cut spending severely enough. then you have some swing district republicans who are very concerned about the scope of these cuts and what it could mean to programs like medicaid that a lot of their constituents rely upon. another key question is what influence is donald trump going to have? we expect that a group of house republicans are going to be headed to the white house. but it's really interesting because a couple of hours ago, one of the key things that emerged was that perhaps donald trump is not
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in the position where he supports steep medicaid cuts. in fact, i. >> talked to. >> representative van drew last night. he said he had a conversation with donald trump about how he was leaning against voting for this budget blueprint because of concerns about what it could do to medicare and medicaid. and when i asked him, what did donald trump tell you? he said that donald trump understood his concerns. so it's going to be really interesting. is this going to be an opportunity for trump to whip members? is this more of an opportunity for trump to listen to members when they all leave the room? is donald trump going to be asking for their support, or is donald trump going to be convinced that perhaps he doesn't want to move forward with this house budget plan? so despite the fact that speaker johnson has done a lot of work to try to convince donald trump to be on his side in this house push to try to pass one big bill. it's really unclear right now where things stand and if johnson is going to have the votes he needs. and we should just point out that if johnson cannot advance this very first step, it makes it really hard to see how they can come together
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to actually legislate $4.5 trillion in tax cuts, how they're going to raise the debt ceiling, which is going to contribute to about $4 trillion in debt over the next several years. those are some of the tough questions that johnson is going to be asking himself. if they can't even get this blueprint off the floor. all right, lauren fox, thank you for that, omar. >> well, a new survey today finds americans are getting increasingly worried about the economy. according to the report, consumer confidence dropped for a third straight month, dropping seven points since january. that's really the largest monthly decline in four years. the reason? fears over stubborn inflation and president trump's aggressive tariffs plan. joining us now for more on this is jeff stein, white house economics reporter for the washington post. good to see you. so i guess let's just start with the basics. how are americans feeling and why? >> i think there's quite a degree, as you mentioned, of pessimism, fear, unease. and i
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think it's easy, um, to sort of pinpoint, you know, the president and his sort of chaotic economic agenda, particularly related to tariffs. but i think it also goes deeper than this, even during biden, there was deep pessimism about the structural forces in the american economy, a sense that people are not only not getting ahead, but falling behind. and these are sort of large systemic questions that have been exacerbated by a sense of fear about the sort of short term implications of what the president has threatened to do to america's very largest trading partners. >> and so let's let's dive into that, because, yes, a lot of structural issues with the economy. it didn't just this even if uncertainty is playing a role here, it didn't just start up in the last 30 days. um, is this do you believe, driven in any sense by. look, we had a campaign where at least many republicans were promising a drop in prices, or at least a fix pretty quickly to some of
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the economic troubles that a lot of americans have faced. and then it hasn't quite happened as quickly as maybe some might have believed. does that play into any of the pessimism, or is it more of, well, we just don't know about what's ahead. >> i think that's a really fair and good point. um, you see in the data that, you know, republicans have seen their consumer confidence massively improve and democrats have seen theirs massively decline, which is sort of what everyone expected. but when you look at independents, many of whom voted for trump and may have expected to see some improvement, they are also becoming more pessimistic. and so that suggests that maybe there was, as you're saying, a sense of optimism with trump coming in that he could do something different, that he would have a change in direction, in policies and being disappointed by what they're seeing and what they're seeing, frankly, is, you know, the sense that inflation was on its way out and, you know, not just that inflation was on its
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way out, but that the easing of inflation would allow the federal reserve to cut rates, which would allow people to buy homes, which allow auto loans to become, you know, cheaper. all these things that that could be unlocked by the easing and the abating of inflation now seems forestalled. and that coupled with a sense that, you know, the political solutions are not solvable, but with the flick of a wand or the stroke of a, of a, of a pen signing a tariff, uh, is, i think, part of the gloom that a lot of people feel and are likely to face, you know, for the foreseeable future. >> never mind bird flu, driving up egg prices or something external like that. coming in as a surprise. um, just before we go, obviously a lot of economic policy ahead as far as what trump wants tax cuts, deregulation, cutting government spending. obviously, tariffs are expected to be a big part of his plan as well. uh, will it. will that solve i guess some of the the structural issues that we, that we've spoken about that
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led up to his inauguration and of course, the start of his, uh, presidency. >> yeah. i mean, obviously, the president would say that that it would um, i think the the buzz from the hill is that the most likely scenario, according to the sources i speak to, is that they largely just extend the tax cuts already in place. so it's a little hard to see exactly how that generates a turnaround in economic sentiment. if the best case scenario for tax cuts is essentially what people are paying now is the same that they pay next year. um, trump, of course, believes that tariffs will lead to this massive onshoring of u.s. manufacturing and factory jobs. but in the best of circumstances, that takes a long time to happen. and in the worst and sort of most probabilistic circumstance, you're going to see an increase in the price of imports. in the short term. trump has even acknowledged that point, that there will be short term pain for this to take effect. so, um,
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you know, i don't want to be the bearer of bad news for the president, but it's just hard to see what levers are, you know, at his disposal that he would pull in the short term to get that that sentiment number back up, which is something i'm sure president biden could relate to. >> yeah. um, jeff stein, really appreciate the time reporting perspective, all the above. thanks for being here. all right. coming up next, of course. coming up next, defense secretary pete hegseth heads to guantanamo bay as cnn learns only about two dozen migrants are being held at the naval base. how the administration's goal of 30,000 detainees is hitting some obstacles. plus yet another miss in our nation's skies, this time at chicago's midway airport. we'll bring you the details after the break. >> it's the news. welcome back. but it's also kind of not the news. >> we don't fact check here. we
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and there's also the migrant operation center, which has been used before for migrants interdicted at sea. different than what is happening now. now he follows the homeland security secretary, who similarly visited guantanamo bay earlier this month, to again take a look at what it is that they are doing because, as you described there, there is an emerging tent facility that has been built to house migrants. now, our reporting is that they have since halted that effort for two reasons. one, there just weren't enough migrants coming to support building more. but number two, because of the conditions, now, when you hold migrants, even here in the united states, there are certain detention standards that have to be met if you're holding them for prolonged periods. and these tents were not meeting that for two reasons at least. no air conditioning in guantanamo bay, which is near quite hot. and also no electricity. so without those two things, they just weren't meeting the standards to
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hold people for long periods of time. now, when senior trump officials talk about this, they say it's a staging area before migrants are deported. but what we saw with the over 170 who were there is that they were there for a few days before they were sent to venezuela. so all of this is really the defense secretary seeing this, but also behind the scenes, what we're being told is that there's just so much confusion about how exactly this is supposed to work. there are, to your point, fewer migrants there than there were last week, for example, after 170 or so were sent back to venezuela. and we are slowly learning more about those who are there, which don't all meet the worst of the worst category that the trump administration has cast them to be. >> on the tents, though, file it under where we see many things, things that should have been thought through a little more. right? and then we've also been hearing some frustrations from those inside the administration about the number of deportations that they're seeing. how is the white house planning to ramp things up with migrant arrests?
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>> i get messages from sources on this all the time. they are very tense calls happening between immigration and customs enforcement and the white house, because they want those arrest numbers to go up. now, there's two things that the white house border czar has already outlined. to do that, it is increasing the number of teams that are out in the u.s. trying to target these undocumented immigrants. if he says, those with criminal records, that means bringing in all parts of government the dea, fbi, atf to help with these arrests. the other part of this is what is called targeting lists. they had that over the last few weeks, which is to say, they know exactly who they're going after and why they're going after them. but after you deplete that list, you have to build that list again. so they are working on the production of that and bringing in more people to do that. it is not necessarily them going out blind to go after some people who do have serious criminal records, but the numbers still aren't where they want them to be, and that is a reality of immigration enforcement in the united states. it is very hard to find
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these people to identify them sometimes. but in addition to that, there's just so few resources and personnel. so that's going to be a big ask moving forward to with congress to try to get those funds, because with what they're working with right now, it is hard to accomplish the numbers that they want to do, even as they seek help, even from private contractors. >> now, the pace that many campaigned on, it just hasn't met reality at this point. priscilla alvarez, always appreciate you being here. thanks for the reporting. we want to turn now to some breaking developments. an air crash that was avoided and it's caught on camera. look at this southwest jet at midway airport in chicago. you see, it's on the verge of touching down this morning. the landing gear is just about to hit the ground. you see it there? and look at that plane right there. >> unbelievable. suddenly, that smaller private plane just appears crossing the runway. and the airliner. thank goodness. manages and has the space to bring the nose back up and do a
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go round. here we have cnn aviation correspondent pete muntean with us. what else are you learning about what happened here, pete? >> this was an incredibly close call. brianna and omar. in fact, one source at the faa just called me and told me, no putting lipstick on this pig. really hard to get around this. and the questions here. now, why was that private jet taxiing in front of the southwest flight as it was coming in to land on runway 31 center there, southwest 20 504 from omaha, nebraska, only feet away from touching down when this flight flexjet 560 a challenger 350 built by bombardier taxis right across the runway. there we have listened back to the air traffic control audio, which sort of describes a confusing exchange between the controllers and the tower who operate the taxiways. that's called ground telling this private jet to hold short of runway 31 center there, meaning don't cross it, come up to it, but don't go across it. and then we can hear from the
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tower exchanges with the southwest crew, which won around unprompted. by the way, a textbook aborted landing here, asking the tower, why did that happen? want you to listen to that exchange now. >> southwest 20 504. how'd that happen? >> 20 504 climbing 3000. contact chicago. approach 128.2. >> yes. >> so those are the departure instructions from the tower there. after an aborted landing, you got to get the plane set back up around for another landing. ultimately ended. nobody heard in this case. plane made a successful landing. but some really big questions here about how this could take place. and this really fits into a larger narrative of these close calls on or near the runways of major airports in the united states since the start of 2023, the national transportation safety board has investigated about 13 of these near-collisions. they're called runway incursions. essentially, when an airplane is on the
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runway, when it shouldn't be, you probably remember some of these jfk, austin, boston, burbank, the list goes on and on. >> parallax, but it looks like it was terribly close. >> it couple, couple of questions here, pete. one, it sounds like airdrop didn't answer the pilot's question. >> it was a little bit rhetorical. am i wrong on that? and also, you know, you look at that business jet, should it have been able to see the southwest passenger plane coming in? >> a lot of questions here for investigators. and sadly, the issue at airports so often is that sometimes the design of an airport essentially builds in a
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blind spot. occasionally they call that a hot spot at airports. sometimes you just can't see everything from the front flight deck of an airplane because of where windshield posts are, how far back the windshield goes. you can't see everything perfectly. so there's some big questions there that investigators will have to figure out. the atc exchange doesn't really detail whether or not the controllers accept any blame here. and remember, air traffic controllers are under tremendous stress right now. not only are they working mandatory six day weeks of ten hour shifts, but also they just had to individually answer elon musk's email explaining what they have done over the last week, essentially justifying their jobs. the air traffic control system in the u.s. is terribly short staffed, and we know that controllers are really pushed to the limit right now. >> short staffing existed for for a while to this point. um, pete muntean really appreciate the reporting perspective. as always. >> some newly unsealed court documents shedding new light on
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casarez is here with more on this. jean, tell us what you're learning. >> well, we found out a lot of new things. this was a transcript from a hearing that was completely sealed. the courtroom was closed. you couldn't even watch it or be in the courtroom. but now it's been unsealed. and here's what we've learned many things. but while the time that law enforcement was having press conferences trying to find out who owned a white car that was driving around the area at the time that these killings occurred, asking anyone for help, they did not have the name of brian kohberger. it was not until unknown dna from the snap on the knife sheath that was found partially under the body of maddie mogan. that unknown dna was sent for genetic genealogy testing, and once they did family tree, and then it got in the hands of the fbi. the fbi told idaho, here's who you need to look at. his name is brian kohberger. now we have from the
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transcript a quote from the lead investigator for idaho, and he says, quote, and that is brett pain. he said that was a result of investigative genetic genealogy that was being undertaken by the fbi. we had a phone call that evening and we were told brian kohberger's name. now genetic genealogy is where they take that unknown dna, put it in a public database to see if anybody in that public database at all has any bit or part of that unknown dna. they construct family trees. they do old fashioned investigative work. and we now know from this case that on november 22nd, they took that unknown dna personally from idaho down to houston, texas, to other labs. it is a foremost premiere genetic genealogy laboratory. and here's the work that we found out through a defense witness that offer him. did they put that dna in the database? and
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they originally found two main dna matches, and it was low matches. and then they found those people were cousins. they traced them to descended from second great grandparents, but brought it all the way down to four living brothers. they did not have the last name of kohberger, but they were given the information and they told the fbi, contact one of these living brothers to see if they will submit their dna. well, the fbi, according to the defense transcript here, they did do that. and the living brother not named kohberger at all, said, no, don't contact me. so the defense is trying to show that this was done inappropriately, that the work by the fbi or potentially the laboratory were using sites that they should not have had access to. now we've reached out to the fbi. we do
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know the fbi uses this as an investigative tip. we also know that the trial judge in kohberger in not suppressing this genetic information, said that if there was anything that like that happened that was not a constitutional issue and it was not something that would warrant this to be suppressed at all. one more thing i've got to tell you. we didn't know, but blood was found on the handrail between the second and third floors in that home, co-mingled with dna. and from everything we know, that dna was not tested at all, that they were relying on. brian kohberger. but here is what prosecutors say is the most important of all. once he was arrested, they did a dna swab test inside his cheek to get his own dna from him. and according to legal documents, that was a match that was conclusive with the dna that was found on that
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knife button of the knife sheath. >> oh, that is very interesting. jean casarez, thank you so much for walking us through that. we do appreciate it. and coming up, picture this. your credit card is stolen. then the thieves use it to buy a winning lottery ticket. what would you do next? i have an idea. well, that happened to a guy in france. here's story ahead. >> i brought in ensure max protein with 30g of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. here, i'll take that in. >> sure. max protein 30g. >> protein, one gram sugar and a protein blend to feed muscles up to seven hours. >> here's some information about replacing windows and doors that just may surprise you. i'm brian gary. i'm here with brian price from renewal by andersen. >> hey, brian. homeowners always ask. my windows aren't even ten years old. why do i have to replace them? but if they aren't quality windows, they may not last. >> some builders put money into kitchens and bathrooms and cheap
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would do. cnn's melissa bell is in paris. she knows what this guy did. melissa, this story is wild. well, for a start, what are the odds, right? this is a guy left his car, came back to it, saw it had been broken in, realized his wallet was missing, canceled the card, but realized that ÷50 had been spent. so went along to the bar where the ÷50 had been spent and found out from the barkeeper that two men had come in, pulled some cigarettes on the stuff, and this winning ticket, they told him, and they ran off, so excited that they left everything else they had. but here's the thing he can't now claim the money, even though it's been booked with his credit card, bought with his credit card, simply because he doesn't have the ticket. it is the thieves who have the ticket somewhere. what we do know is that neither of them have yet tried to claim the money. more than ÷500,000, by the way, it's a huge win that they managed to get with their single card on that day with the stolen credit card of this guy. they he can't collect it. so he's come up
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