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a wheelchair like device to try to move her to the front of the aircraft toward the business class cabin. unfortunately, the aisle way was too narrow, so this woman's body was then placed in a seat next to a married couple covered in a blanket. this morning, qatar airways is expressing is expressing its condolences to this family, apologizing to passengers about how this all unfolded. very upsetting for this husband and wife on a vacation heading to italy. let's take a listen to jennifer collins. she was with her husband. she explains what happened. >> yeah, i'm not a great flier at the best of times. um, but when my husband turned around and said, move, move, we got to move. i was really shocked. um, and i said, are they going to, you know, put her there. and luckily, a lady behind me, um, on the other aisle, um, she said, darling, darling, come
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here. a lovely english lady. and i sat next to her. but, um, so mitch was across the aisle then from me for the rest of the flight. >> unfortunately, while not common, these things do happen from time to time. john, we are looking back in the archives at one point in time, one airline actually had a special compartment for some of its long haul flights where in the event of a situation like this, a corpse could be stored for the remainder of the flight. obviously, a lot of questions still to be asked here. >> i never heard of that before. it is really just such a tragic story. mark stuart, thank you so much for that. new hour of cnn news central starts right now. >> the first cabinet meeting of president trump's new administration, featuring a man who's not in the cabinet, hasn't been elected to any office and has not been vetted by congress at all. elon musk's big seat at the table nsa chatrooms meant for discussing
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security matters instead used as sexually explicit chat rooms. we have new details behind the decision to fire more than 100 intelligence officers. and monica lewinsky with a new interview on one of the world's most popular podcasts. the damage she says her scandal has caused other women, and how she thinks president clinton should have responded. i'm kate bolduan with john berman and sara sidner. this is cnn news central. >> all right. this morning, we are standing by for president trump's first cabinet meeting in this new administration. he will be sitting in a room full of senate confirmed individuals. and then there will be one person not confirmed. not elected. and according to some people, not constrained in any way, elon musk will be there. unclear where exactly he is sitting at the table. the white house says he will be there to talk about the government efficiency effort that the white
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house now somehow says he is not actually the leader of. cnn has learned that some of the president's senate confirmed cabinet members are feeling frustrated with musk this morning. puck news calls it musk's icarus moment. in other words, flying too close to the sun. and they say they found deep distrust, with musk widely viewed as weird, radical and selfish. that's directly from puck news this morning. with us now is tara palmeri, senior political correspondent at puck. to what extent tara, is elon musk crashing the cabinet meeting this morning? >> coristine it out. >> yeah. >> i would say he's a crasher. it's a it's. >> a i mean, he's also invited by the. >> president of the united states, but his role. is clearly a. >> layer above cabinet. >> and. >> closer to the president. but he was. >> an. >> unelected official and he. >> wasn't senate confirmed. >> and yet. >> he is telling. >> these cabinet. >> officials what programs they need to. >> cut. >> which employees they need to fire. and these people are just getting into their roles right.
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>> now, and they're. >> just managing the situation, trying to. >> figure out how the place works. right. and here you've got elon musk and 40 people, a very. >> small staff. >> that does not have the time to actually go through and understand these departments, these agencies, these programs, these grants, and figure out what is. >> needed. and what's not. and they're just. >> haphazardly getting rid of things. and here you have department heads taking calls from members of congress, senators who are saying, don't let him cut these programs, like katie bret, the senator from alabama, you know, she's been back channeling to cabinet secretary, saying if he touches nih funding, that goes to university of alabama. like, do not let him anywhere near that because it's hundreds of millions of dollars that her state gets. and i think, you know, in rhetoric, republicans are fiscally conservative. but if you actually try to touch the programs or the entitlements that their constituents use, that's very unpopular. >> yeah, it does seem as if in the last week or few days, something has changed. again, you guys called it the icarus
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moment, crossing some kind of a line there. washington post reports that some people inside the administration are frustrated. we're getting the same thing here at cnn. we're hearing that cabinet secretaries are frustrated by this. so is it in a new phase now, do you think? >> yeah, i. >> do think so. i think he's crossed the line, especially these emails that bullying email respond with the five things you did last week without any consideration of what this could expose. by the way. um, a lot of people work on very sensitive topics, some of them related to public health, public safety, national security. you had tulsi gabbard, the director of national intelligence, one of trump's close allies, kash patel the fbi director, another very close trump ally, telling their their staff do not respond to this email because what you were working on, there's a very good chance it was classified. and the email you're supposed to cc your manager on it, which could expose the entire government organizational chart to hackers. and let's not forget that the
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email that it was going to, it was one single email to the office of personnel and management, which has been hacked recently. in 2015. like, these emails are easily accessible and the health and human services, their administrator, wrote to employees saying, please, if you're going to respond, do not talk about any of the programs that you're working on, the drugs, the experiments, whatever you're doing, do not actually provide any real detail because you have to assume that whatever you send will most likely be hacked and then used by scammers, and it could end up in the, you know, this is the stuff that china spends, you know, billions of dollars trying to understand how our government works so they can mine it as a map. and this is just giving them more intel. >> tara palmieri it will be a fascinating cabinet meeting. we need a body language expert to analyze how everyone is seated and where. we appreciate your time this morning. great to see you, sir. >> all right. the fallout from doge and its mass terminations are hitting the courts and hitting families hard. our next guest is gail schecter. as of
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last week, she worked for the department of veterans affairs and says why she was fired was neither fair nor based on fact. she joins us now with her attorney, pamela keith. all right. i'm going to start with you, gail. you're here with me in the studio. how did you find out that you were not only being fired, you were also being given some a bad review at the same time. >> um, so i was after work, and i was online, just like everybody else, just reading. um, and something in my gut told me to go back and sign on to my computer. um, and i did, and there was an email from someone i don't know saying i was being terminated effective immediately for performance. >> had you ever had a bad performance review in the past? >> so i. the short answer is no. um, i've worked for the va for since 2006. um, i've always had a really strong sense of purpose and mission and been really tied
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to what we do and the work we do, and it's it's important work. um, and i've always had really great supervisors and great bosses and had a great rapport with them and had nothing but positive. well, none, you know. um, but all positive reviews and, um, yeah. >> so ultimately there was a determination made by someone somewhere. did you see a name on this email? was there any indication of who it was? did it say doge or did it say elon musk? or how did you know who was sending it? >> so it was signed by someone in human resources who i don't know. um, but i called my boss right after, and i said, what's going on? and he had no idea. >> so he wasn't even told. you just. >> got it. i told him. >> okay. um, let me go to your attorney. um, who is also with us? uh, pamela, is this sort of being sent out like a, i don't know, a cover letter where the names are changed and they're just saying poor performance, and it's an excuse. are you seeing this happen in other
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cases? >> absolutely. sarah, what we're seeing. >> is that. >> a form letter was drafted. the words may be slightly different depending on the employee, but basically all of these letters are accusing all probationary empyees of ing poor performers because our regulations protect government workers. probationary workers may not have the same level of protection as those that have passed that that probationary stage, but they still have due process rights. and our regulations say they can only be terminated for either poor performance or poor conduct. and the thing is, you don't manufacture poor performance or poor conduct by simply putting those words on a piece of paper. >> and that is precisely why you are suing on behalf of gail. gail, i'm curious to get your take on this. there have been some very nasty words said about federal workers, not just from the doge guys, but also from a congresswoman, marjorie taylor greene. i want you to listen to what she said about federal workers. take a take a listen.
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>> those are. >> not real jobs. >> producing federal revenue. >> by the way. >> they're consuming. >> taxpayer dollars. those jobs are. >> paid for by the american. >> tax. >> people who work real jobs earn real income, pay federal taxes, and then pay these federal employees. federal employees do not deserve their jobs. federal employees do not deserve their paychecks. >> what would you like to say to the congresswoman, who is also, by the way, paid by the american public? >> so i'm not a political person. i'd rather probably have pam handle that. i can i can tell you that. um, i work very hard. i as i said, i'm very dedicated to the mission. my coworkers and colleagues work very hard. um, we pay federal taxes as well. um, and i can't speak for the entirety, but, i mean, our mission is to provide
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the best care anywhere to patients. and i think that we do that every day. um, so. >> i want to get your response. um, pamela, just what you thought of the congresswoman's words there about all federal workers basically saying they do nothing. they deserve nothing. >> well, i think she's fundamentally confused as to the role of the u.s. government. our government workers serve the people. they're not there to make revenue for the government. they're not private employees in a private enterprise. they serve the american people. and the missions of our federal workers are established by the people through congress, through appropriations for the things that they do. so if there is a federal worker, there was a congress somewhere that decided that their job was important enough to create and invest in and for these many years, and all of us know personally, federal workers that have served in any number of critical roles. i just think that miss green is is just deeply confused. and if she has that much antipathy for
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government, perhaps she should rethink the job that she has. >> all right. i just one last thing. just quickly, if you can tell me how are you doing after this? i mean, how is your family doing? >> so we're not good. i mean, i, i, i'm trying. i've been applying for jobs. i've been, um, you know, trying to, um, to kind of reckon with what's going on. um, and at the same time trying to stay strong. um, and, um, take it day by day. i really am very hopeful that this will get resolved and i'll get my job back. i miss my, my my clients, my customers, my staff, my my coworkers. um, and i miss being able to serve the veterans. that's really what it comes down to. so i just take it day by day. but i appreciate you asking. i appreciate you having me here, um, to tell the story. so thank you. >> thank you. i know it's hard to do this with all the lights and strangers asking you
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personal questions, so i really do appreciate it. thanks to you as well, pamela. and we will be checking in on the suit and how it goes. over to you, kate. >> thanks. >> new this morning, a ukrainian official now telling cnn the united states and ukraine have agreed on a deal over ukraine's rare earth minerals, just as ukraine's president is about to head to washington. and some are calling it the largest immigration crackdown ever in their town. more than 100 immigrants arrested in an ice raid on one texas community. and the trump administration is offering up an alternative pathway to citizenship for a price, as in $5 million. >> amid upheaval and sweeping changes. >> the president. >> of the united states. >> trump heads to capitol hill to share what's next. follow cnn for complete coverage and in-depth analysis. the presidential address to congress tuesday at eight on cnn. >> before the spotlight, we struggled to keep the lights on. i saw more from myself. and sophie gives members the
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for this operation. he actually took to x to say that he and tom homan personally worked on this for months. i, of course, had a lot of questions. i contacted both of their offices to learn more about this operation. i didn't get any answers. i also contacted ice with a lot of questions. i didn't get many answers there either. what we did learn from x was, according to ice, was that 118 people were arrested in this community and some of the associated crimes, according to this post on x ice said that these individuals had criminal sexual conduct charges or homicide charges or weapons offenses. there was a list of things. but what i asked for was a list of all of the individuals who had been arrested, their demographics, and also the associated charges. what we did get from ice was a statement highlighting one individual only. and this was a 39 year old
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man from el salvador. and according to ice, they had arrested this man on a criminal warrant for repeated sexual abuse of a minor over an eight year period, that these were allegations. now, the other thing that's notable about these arrests in this particular area is that this is a development that's predominantly hispanic, that has been targeted by right wing media in the past with unsubstantiated claims that this area has been targeted by the cartels. ice, in fact, also included that in their tweet, saying that they had this was a known location for cartel activity. i asked ice about that too, about this cartel activity. what is this cartel activity where they're some of these arrests associated with the cartels? again, i did not get answers to a lot of my questions, but i will leave you with this because we do have video, the video that you were just looking at a lot of empty streets in this community. and that's exactly what we've been hearing from a lot of hispanic
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communities around this country, where some of these enforcement actions have happened. there's a lot of fear. people are afraid to leave their homes. and that's one of the reasons why we're asking all of these questions to ice skate is because transparency could help knowing who is being arrested and the associated crimes could help curb some of those fears. >> kate rosa, thank you so much for following it. we'll stay on it with you. thank you. sarah. >> all right. president trump has an idea. he says his administration will now offer gold cards like immigration green cards, but for rich people. trump says they will charge $5 million a piece. and that will get you on your way to immigration status in the u.s. >> would a russian oligarch. >> be eligible for a gold card? >> yeah, possibly. hey, i know some russian oligarchs that are very nice people. it's possible. >> russian oligarchs would be welcome to buy their way into america, while refugees trying to escape war are going to have to go through the years long process and maybe never get their chance. john. >> got it. all right. as we see
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university. elon musk will attend president trump's first cabinet meeting this morning, despite not being a member of the cabinet, we think. this comes as we're hearing of administration officials behind the scenes getting frustrated with musk and from republican congress members very publicly now voicing some of that frustration. cnn chief data analyst harry enten is here. when you start hearing it from republican congress members, you start wondering what they're hearing from voters. >> yeah, that's exactly right. you know, when it comes to elon musk's power in federal government decision making, i mean, if he's attending. the first. >> cabinet meeting, my. >> goodness gracious. sometimes i feel like the smallest number on the screen can tell the story. so must our government's decision making. just 3%. just 3% of americans say he has too little power. they're like, oh, i need more musk. >> there's not really. >> that crowd. there are more people who believe that we fake the moon landing too much. look at this. 55% of americans believe that elon musk has too much power in government
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decision making. my goodness gracious. right amount comes in at 36. you add the two of these, it's 39%. this 55% is the runaway. the bottom line is americans do not like how much power elon musk currently has in government decision making. and very few americans think he should somehow have more power. >> so too much power. where are they concerned that he might be using this power? >> yeah. so, you know, you talk about doge, right? doge is access. access to people's personal data through the government databases. you know, e.g. your social security, your tax income information. take a look here. 63% say they are concerned. they are concerned about dozier's access to potential personal data. and that includes 37%. my god of republicans and leaning republicans in the electorate. so there is a slew of the republican base who is concerned about doj's power. these are the types of numbers that i think really should make republicans worry, because that's what we're seeing at the town halls. that's what you're seeing. a
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lot of republicans react to. there's a good portion of the republican base who's like, you know what, elon musk, maybe you should take a little bit of a step back. >> you know, it's interesting. puck this morning called it elon musk's icarus moment. in other words, flying too close to the sun. but there's some evidence he's very much in the spotlight right now. his moment in the sun. >> it is. absolutely elon musk's moment in the sun. and we talked about this a few weeks ago. is elon musk becoming the face of this administration? i want you to take a look at monthly changes in google searches. jd vance, the vice president of united states, he's down 70% from a month ago. how about donald trump? google searches for him. he's down 35% from a month ago. but musk or doge look at this up 167% from a month ago. the bottom line is he is not a popular guy and is becoming more of a face of this administration. >> interesting to see these numbers. thank you very much, chief. thank you sarah. >> all right. joining us now is massachusetts congressman jake. thank you so much for being here. look, let's talk about
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what is happening with doge. nearly 40% of contracts musk and his team claim to have canceled aren't expected to save any money. and five of the biggest cuts they posted, they have now deleted. so something happened there. what does any of this indicate to you? >> good morning. thanks for having me on. doge is about misdirection. the chaos and the corruption from elon musk and his team, where they're firing federal aviation administration authorities while there's near misses on runways, they're firing public health officials while we've got measles outbreaks in texas and georgia. it is about distracting americans from what is happening in congress, where congressional republicans are axing medicaid. that is health care for kids, that is health care for new moms, that is health care for individuals struggling with substance use disorder. and they're going to gut it to pay
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for tax cuts for people who don't need tax cuts. and donald trump is going to use elon musk to distract the american people from that. until elon musk runs out of usefulness, in which case he'll kick him to the curb. >> congressman, i was curious about that. if you think that he is using musk as a stooge, basically so that he can be blamed, but not donald trump, even though this is donald trump's choice and he has publicly backed these firings, publicly backed musk many, many, many times. so will it work with the american people? do you think. >> donald trump is not on the ballot again? remember that congressional republicans are on the ballot next november. and so the feedback that is coming up to the white house from congressional republicans, and i'm hearing this from my colleagues on the house floor, is we're being fed to the wolves here. every time elon musk goes out there and tweets and attacks, you know, epa regulators who are keeping pfas out of our water supply or attacks, air traffic controllers who are trying to keep planes from colliding in mid-air. we have to answer to our
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constituents. and that's before they took the vote on taking $880 billion out of primary and preventative care for children. so congressional republicans are the are the ones who are going to bear the brunt of elon musk's unpopularity. donald trump is just simply going to kick him away when he's done being useful. we all know that donald trump is transactional. the problem is, is that congressional republicans are the ones going to be footing the bill. >> speaking of transactions, donald trump has floated this idea of this gold card, as he's put it. um, it's like a green card. but for the very wealthy saying he would charge $5 million in order for someone to get a gold card, that includes, he said russian oligarchs would be welcome to come to america if they paid the money. what do you make of this idea? >> it's typical trump policy in that it takes a kernel of legitimately good idea, which is that we do need immigration reform and we should be welcoming, um, high talent immigration, particularly through h-1b visa reform and adjustments to schedule a so that we can get people with
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advanced degrees to come here, create jobs, innovate. and he takes it to a corrupt and counterproductive place where we were talking about having scientists come to america to cure disease. and now he takes it to let's get russian oligarchs here to come to america and, you know, play golf with him. so it's just another disappointing example of trump taking this kernel of bipartisan consensus and contorting it into his own chaos and corruption. >> let me ask you something. you know, no democrat voted for either of these budget ideas from both the senate and the house. the blueprints that that went through because trump helped push the house version through that he likes. is there anything in any of those bills that you could get behind, or how do you see it? >> democrats voted against the budget resolution because democrats defend health care. we defend health care for kids. we defend health care for new moms. we defend health care for seniors who need at home care. and a third of medicaid dollars go to seniors who need at home care. the question is, why didn't democrats vote for it?
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the question is, how are republicans going to explain their vote for it to their constituents? let's take the texas delegation, for example. i was recently speaking with a member of the texas delegation who represents 100,000 constituents who use medicaid, a majority of whom are children. they have no plan for how those kids are going to see doctors when they access medicaid. so that's the explanation that is going to have to be put forward, and it's going to be a series of rambunctious town halls. >> yeah. you're talking about the 800 billion, almost $1 trillion that they're trying to take out of medicaid in in one of these bills. i want to get your reaction this morning to something that republican congresswoman marjorie taylor greene said about the people who doge has been firing in mass. here is what a congressperson said about federal workers. >> those are not real jobs producing federal revenue, by the way. they're consuming taxpayer dollars. those jobs are
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paid for by the american taxpayer. people who work real jobs earn real income, pay federal taxes, and then pay these federal employees. federal employees do not deserve their jobs. federal employees do not deserve their paychecks. >> what's your reaction to her this morning? >> who does marjorie taylor greene think pays her salary? it's the federal taxpayer. the federal taxpayer is footing the bill for her to spout this inanity and nonsense. when elon musk guts the career, scientists at the food and drug administration who ensures that medical devices are safe and effective before people put them inside their body. that does not make my constituents lives safer. it does not reduce the cost of health care, and it increases the cost of uncertainty for business and for investors. the federal workforce is less than 5% of all federal budget. so marjorie taylor greene and doge, they're claiming that they're saving money and wringing efficiencies
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out of the system. they're not. they're causing chaos. they're pursuing corruption. and it's all about misdirection because they don't want people to focus on the fact that republicans are going to gut health care for children and for women in this country. >> and democrats are bringing that up over and over again. we will see how this all plays out as these budgets start going forward and they start being put out to all of you to vote on them. congressman jake, thank you so much for coming on this morning. appreciate your time. kate. >> coming up for us, we have new details about the decision to fire 100 people at the nsa over sexually explicit messages found on internal department chat rooms, and we have a new update from the vatican on the pope's health this morning. >> learn how to experiment with new technologies without getting played by them. listen to terms of service with me clare duffy.
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that was first brought to light by a conservative activist on x. so after this person posted them in recent days, they clearly caught the attention of the highest levels of the intelligence community. and one senior administration official told cnn that rank and file intel community employees actually began reaching out to gabbard about it in the days after. now, a spokesperson for the director of national intelligence said yesterday that these 100 plus employees would be identified and fired, and gabbard herself spoke to this a bit in an interview last night, calling the messages, quote, an egregious violation of trust. >> there are over 100 people from across the intelligence community that contributed to and participated in this. what is really just an egregious violation of trust? what to speak of, like basic rules and standards around professionalism? i put out a directive today that they all will be terminated, and their security clearances will be revoked. they were brazen in
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using an nsa platform intended for professional use to to conduct this kind of really, really horrific behavior. >> so gabbard's comments came hours after the nsa said that it was aware of these posts that, quote, appear to show inappropriate discussions by intelligence personnel, and they announced that investigations were also underway. the agency said in a statement on x there that, quote, potential misuse of these platforms by a small group of individuals does not represent the community investigations to address this, misuse of government systems are ongoing. so we will see how this plays out. but broadly, you know, i think it's more evidence of the role that activists on x have played in shaping policies across this administration. secretary of defense pete hegseth, for example, he also routinely responds on x to a post shared by the right wing account libs of tiktok that purport to show violations inside the military of president trump's anti dei policies. and of course, as we know, elon musk has also attempted to create policy for the entire federal government
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through his posts on x. kate. >> natasha, thank you so much for the reporting. john. >> all right. this morning the vatican is giving a new update on the health of pope francis pope francis. they're saying he had a, quote, peaceful night. it is now sitting in an arm chair and continuing his treatment. so we asked all of you to submit questions about pneumonia. cnn chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta is here to answer them. and sanjay jan from new jersey wants to know how much protection does the pneumococcal vaccine provide, and does it ensure you will not get pneumonia? i practice saying pneumococcal, by the way. >> good job. >> nice job. yeah. >> so a couple of things to sort of keep in mind. first of all, we've been using the term polymicrobial when describing the pope's pneumonia. and that means different organisms bacteria, viruses, other things that can be causing pneumonia. the pneumococcal vaccine, which is the question jan is asking about that is specifically designed to target the most
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common form of pneumonia, which is a bacterial form of pneumonia known as streptococcus pneumoniae. so that is something that is typically given to children before the age of five, and then recommended for people over the age of 50 with the possible booster after the age of 65. that's because that's the population. those are the populations of people who are most likely to get very sick from from pneumonia. again, the most common form of pneumonia is actually a bacterial form of pneumonia. this does a good job protecting against. that could be up to 60 to 80% effective in terms of preventing the pneumonia. but keep in mind, as we talk about with vaccines, john, even even if you do get pneumonia while on the vaccine, you're also likely to have a less severe illness as well. so that's where those recommendations come from. it's not iron clad, it's not foolproof, but it does a pretty good job. >> that is interesting. i was asked just this last year if i wanted the pneumonia vaccine. all right. joyce from mississippi asks, is pneumonia contagious? and if so, under what circumstances can it spread from person to person?
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>> yeah. so this this is a respiratory infection. it's not the pneumonia per se, but it is the the pathogen, the bacteria typically. but viruses as well that could be contagious. and you know, you spread it just like you'd spread anything else. typically coughing, sneezing you tend to be most contagious for a few days after you start developing symptoms. once your fever goes away, once you're on antibiotics, if you get antibiotics, then you tend to become less contagious. but yeah, just like anything else, typically through the air, less common, but also possible coughing pathogens hit the surfaces. people touch those surfaces, touch their eyes, nose or mouth. you can get it that way as well. >> all right. and lastly, jag from canada wants to know what's walking pneumonia and how can one detect it, or how can one treat it? >> yeah. so walking pneumonia as you, as you might guess from the name, is going to be a less severe form of pneumonia. it's a kind of pneumonia where you
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could still be up walking around, um, you can still get pretty sick with this. and sometimes it can be a little tough to distinguish walking pneumonia from the more standard pneumonia. but you can see the sort of symptoms that people have. you know, they're going to feel like they have a bad cold or flu even, but people are still generally able to be up walking around. it is caused generally by a different bacteria. so streptococcus that's the bacteria that causes the more common standard pneumonia. mycoplasma is the is the bacteria that typically causes walking pneumonia. um, a lot of times the diagnosis is made just because you're really suspicious. that's what's going on. but to really make sure you have the diagnosis, physical exam and a chest x ray with standard pneumonia. the pneumonia tends to affect just one part of the lung. with walking pneumonia, it tends to affect more of the lung. but again in a less severe way. uh, and just one final thing. standard pneumonia. typically you'll get antibiotics, walking pneumonia. you typically don't
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need antibiotics. it typically just sort of clears on its own. >> you got to say it's interesting because it can mean so many different things. but i think the important thing is to take it very seriously. sanjay, thank you very much for all that, sarah. >> thanks, john. things could get real awkward. elon musk, not a cabinet member joining president trump as he holds its first official cabinet meeting this year. as some of the cabinet picks patience wearing thin with mr. doge and what monica lewinsky now says bill clinton should have done after his affair with her. those stories ahead. >> paging doctor gupta is brought to you by v-guard. hi. and v-guard. >> if you have generalized myasthenia gravis, picture what life could look like with v-guard a subcutaneous injection that takes about 30 to 90s. for one thing, could it mean more time for you? v-guard can improve daily abilities and reduce muscle weakness with a
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about. >> that park. >> if you are doing something from the bottom of your heart and like it's clearly made from passion, others will be attracted to that passion. >> redding says she hopes her project inspires others to look at trash differently, although i hope it inspires people not to leave it around. the national parks sarah always with the good point, but it's really cool. >> what a great idea. just shows you humans aren't so bad after all, are they? don't answer that, john. don't answer that. never mind. go about your day. all right. breaking news. just moments ago, ukrainian president zelenskyy says security guarantees from the u.s. as a result of a new mineral deal could be the first step towards peace. >> if we understand that the u.s. will be one of the countries or one of the leading countries who give security guarantees, then this could be a success or the first step towards a sustainable peace. growth of the ukrainian economy. or if it's just some sort of
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beginning without a vision for the end, we will make conclusions. after my conversation with president trump. >> all right. cnn's nick paton walsh is joining us now live from kyiv. um, what else are you hearing from zelenskyy? this sounds very transactional, but he sounds also hopeful. >> yeah, i think look, it's clear that this is moving forwards. what we did not hear though is perhaps also important. we did not hear zelenskyy say that final terms have been agreed with the united states. indeed, he said he was going to have to read the document at some point and he did not specifically say, i know the date and time of my meeting with president donald trump, but he certainly wants one and even talked about going to london after having one. so nothing to suggest that is being derailed, just not finalized. interesting about how he talked about the document itself. now, he talked about, you know, how he was grateful there were lawyers out there to deal with all the complex technical elements here, but there are some very clear
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things he had in his mind that the figure of half $1 trillion initially floated by the trump administration, that ukraine would have to repay the united states that wasn't in there, he said. 100 billion wasn't in there either. and he also said there was a key point of principle for him that the document could not suggest that even $0.10 of the money already given by the united states to ukraine, as grants, not loans, would be repaid. he also talked about the need for security guarantees. now, where are we with that in the document, he suggested there was a point ten which made reference to security guarantees for ukraine. now, i should point out that is not the same as giving security guarantees to ukraine. and he didn't even suggest that there were necessarily security guarantees within this document. this has been something we understand from ukrainian officials, has been a point of resistance from the american side for some time. and so there may be, as we suggested yesterday, in our reporting, that this final draft, it contains references that spell out more clearly security
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guarantees for ukraine, but don't actually give them. they're clearly still negotiating parts of this text. it's clear he wants that meeting. whether those two men get along well and have something meaningful to sign. uh, probably at this point, not guaranteed. nothing has been for the last week, sarah. >> yeah. it has been very contentious with some of the things that donald trump has said about zelenskyy. we will see what happens. and if a deal indeed is made. thank you so much. nick paton walsh there live for us. thank you to your crew as well in kyiv, kate. >> so with president zelenskyy headed to washington and to the white house, i want to play for you. what president play for you? president trump's take on it all yesterday. >> i hear that he's coming on friday. certainly it's okay with me if he'd like to. and he would like to sign it together with me. and i understand that's a big deal. very big deal. and i think the american people, even if you look at polling, they're very happy because, you know, biden was throwing money around like it's
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cotton candy and it's it's a very big deal. look, it could be $1 trillion deal. it could be whatever. >> joining us right now is retired army lieutenant colonel alexander vindman, a former director of european affairs on the national security council, also the author of a new book out now that could not be more relevant, the folly of realism how the west deceived itself about russia and betrayed ukraine. it's really good to see you. thank you so much. congrats on the book. let's jump off what we heard from president zelenskyy there, what we know and really what we don't know, which is all of the important detail of what this rare mineral, rare earth minerals deal could, could mean. zelenskyy seems hopeful or just unclear. you talk about realism in your book so much. why are security guarantees so important? why has the trump administration do you think, been resistant to put that out there to this point? what do you
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think comes of this very important aspect of getting any negotiation done? >> sure. so first of all, it's interesting that these are. >> two media figures. >> one of them. >> is a career actor. the other one is, you know, hosted on the. apprentice tv personality. and how much of this is playing out in the public eye? usually these negotiations take place behind closed doors. the nuts and bolts are worked out. not the kind of the smoke and mirrors that we see right now. how much is it is real? how much of it is substance? um, what? historically the u.s. has been resistant to is it doesn't want to be on the hook to secure ukraine against russian attack. why? because that puts the u.s. in a position where u.s. troops are on the ground. there's a chance for an escalation of war. now, the theory is that this is the way that war starts, that u.s. provides security guarantees. the the counterfactual, the more relevant data point that my research tells me in the book is that this is the one thing that forestalls russian attack. why? because the russians are not the least bit interested in a
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confrontation with the u.s. or with nato. the u.s. is a much, much more powerful military. much, much more powerful alliance. nukes are irrelevant. trump and putin are. neither of them are suicidal. neither of them want to get to this point. so providing ukraine security guarantees is a way to forestall or end this war and prevent future wars. but we've not gone there in the past 30 plus years. i find it hard to believe that the u.s. is going to offer anything substantive. yet under the trump administration. eventually we need to get there. eventually, we need to realize this promise of ukraine in nato. as we declared back in 2008, just so much has to happen before we get there. the folly is that we haven't learned the lessons of the past. we keep repeating them. >> that's what is. and again, this is extremely relevant because you talk in the book about how the united states has made mistakes in its approach, and you're talking last six administrations, but maybe you make the case, maybe no one making worse mistakes than donald trump right now, the united states has just sided with russia by voting against the un resolution condemning
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russian aggression in ukraine. there is a range of opinions on how relevant the united nations is is on any given day, but how big of a turn or reversal do you think that move is. >> in terms of the u.s. moral leadership in the world? it's it's it's disastrous. it's frankly one of the most public facing changes in u.s. courts that we've seen. you have a continuity in foreign policy across administrations. you might have some some adjustments, but there's generally a continuity. we haven't had a reverse course where we went from declaring somebody an enemy, an adversary, a dictatorship to now embracing them. >> yeah. like sky is blue, sky is green is essentially what it kind of is. >> it is a disastrous about face from that standpoint. now, whether all this chaos could actually claw back some sort of gains, zelenskyy is going to be in town in two days. there might be some element of substance to this deal. it's always a good thing for the u.s. to be on side with with an ally fo

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