>> i think you guys like entitlements. you don't want to cut government. i strongly believe that. >> let me go to tim from minnesota. tim, what's on your mind? >> why did. >> donald trump fire the inspectors general. >> well, look, the president has the discretion to let go whomever he wants under his purview, just as democratic presidents have in the past. that's the answer to that question. it's simple. >> is that good enough? >> now? they don't have a message. that's what the problem is. that's what the whole thing is. they don't have a message. listen to me. i'm the one with the message. republicans are slash and burn, get rich. >> well, you like being rich, don't you, chuck? >> i do like getting rich. if i can borrow some money, you should be a republican, a different category. >> we're welcoming you on our side. >> i had your money. i'd burn mine, man. >> what's going to happen behind the scenes? chuck rocha shermichael singleton. thank you all. and thank you all for asking questions as well. hey, thanks for watching. anderson cooper

>> night on 360, the president's first cabinet meeting, starring non cabinet member elon musk, what he and the president said and what the white house is now signaling about where he ranks compared to all those senate confirmed cabinet secretaries. also tonight, the president's plan for gaza has been called absurd. and now he has an a.i. generated video, obviously not real to prove the point, with bearded belly dancers and more. and later, how safe are the skies in the wake of a near accident on a runway in chicago? several more incidents and close calls, including at reagan national scene of last month's deadly midair collision. good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin tonight keeping them honest with the president's first cabinet meeting of his second term. now, it didn't repeat the first term. slavish display of devotion from one cabinet secretary after another as the cameras rolled. if you remember that. instead, it began with the president briefly outlining the administration's accomplishments for the first month, then quickly turning to the non cabinet guest of honor. >> i'd like to have elon musk please say a few words. thank you. >> thank you, mr. president. well, i actually just call

myself a humble tech support here because. >> then with actual cabinet members looking on, musk proceeded to talk for about eight minutes. after that, he and the president took questions from the press, the first of which was whether any cabinet heads were unhappy with musk. >> john avlon let the cabinet speak just for a second. >> yes, exactly. >> nabih berri unhappy to. >> say it. you know, if you are, will throw him out of here. is anybody unhappy? >> with. they sort of applauded in all by our count. elon musk spoke or took questions for about ten minutes of the 65 minute proceeding. he and the president took several questions about that email. he was behind the one demanding federal employees list five accomplishments in the prior week, or be presumed to have resigned, which sounds like they were being told to justify their jobs. but today musk said, no, no, no, it's not that at all. >> i think that email perhaps was best interpreted as a performance review, but actually it was a pulse check review. do

you have a pulse? do you have a pulse? and two neurons? >> now keep an eye on on us. if you're just looking for dead people still on the payroll, and you now have access to databases and records from all across the federal government, there are plenty of ways of finding them, i would think. additionally, if there is an expectation that these emails would be going out to more than a few dead people, then what's the threat of losing their jobs for? for a deceased federal employee, that would seem to be the least of their problems, unless that threat is for the likely to be many, many more living workers who have not, replied. the president today threw out a number a million, he said. and given that most, if not all of them are likely alive, not dead, what he said about those million men and women amounts to threatening their jobs. >> i'd like to add. wait a minute. wait, wait. i'd like to add that those million people that haven't responded though, elon, they are on the bubble. you know, i wouldn't say that we're thrilled about it. they haven't responded. now, maybe they don't exist. maybe we're paying people that don't exist.

don't forget we just got here. this group just got here. uh, but those people are on the bubble, as they say they may be. they're going to be gone. maybe they're not around. maybe they have other jobs. maybe they moved and they're not where they're supposed to be. a lot of things could have happened. >> a lot of things, he says. but the likeliest reason they're not replying is simple. it's because all these agencies and cabinet departments have told their employees not to reply to these emails justice, state, homeland security, the fbi and the pentagon, which is nearly a million civilian employees on the payroll alone. musk today also made the same promise about fixing mistakes that he did earlier this month in the oval office. >> so, and and i should say, we will also we will make mistakes. we won't be perfect. but when we make a mistake, we'll fix it very quickly. so, for example, with usaid, one of the things we accidentally canceled very briefly was ebola. ebola prevention. i think we all want ebola prevention. so we restored the ebola prevention

immediately, and there was no interruption. >> now, keep in mind that that claim on ebola is coming into question. five days ago, democratic senators wrote to secretary of state rubio, warning that the freeze on u.s. global health activities is causing devastation to lives and livelihoods. the letter cites ebola as the first example. here's two in a series of tweets today from doctor craig spencer, who teaches at brown university school of public health and is himself an ebola survivor, quoting him now, i've been told by a colleague that uganda tried calling the white house to notify them of the outbreak for two days, but no one answered the phone. two months ago we had amazing experts working on global health security there. now there appears to be no one to pick up a phone doctor spencer continues. you know who does ebola prevention here in the u.s.? the cdc, hundreds of these frontline experts lost their jobs last week as part of indiscriminate cost saving firings. more cuts are expected. usaid has long supported ebola response efforts overseas, he says. not no more. late last month, during confirmation hearings for secretary kennedy,

doctor spencer was on the broadcast warning of the funding freezes and cuts that he alluded to online today. >> let me be very clear. this is pure stupidity. as someone that has worked around the world battling disease outbreaks from ebola, hepatitis c, many others, i've seen the relations that relationships that we've had, the cdc with the w.h.o., i've seen what where we benefit from having eyes on the ground and having those relationships. at this point, our cdc folks can't talk to w.h.o. folks about a marburg outbreak in tanzania, about a possible ebola outbreak in the dr. congo, about what's happening with mpox in countries around the world. we're not able to do that. >> well, then there's the measles outbreak in texas and new mexico. health secretary kennedy was asked about the announcement today that an unvaccinated school aged child in lubbock, texas, died of it overnight. >> we're watching it. we put out a post on it yesterday, and we're going to continue to follow it. incidentally, there have been four measles outbreaks

this year in this country. last year there were 16. so it's not unusual. we have measles outbreaks every year. >> what secretary kennedy did not mention is that this child's death is the first since 2015, ten years ago. he also said this, which is not true. >> we're watching it. and there are about 20 people hospitalized, mainly for quarantine. >> uh, that's not true. according to a lubbock hospital health official who addressed the secretary's comment this afternoon. >> we don't hospitalize patients for for quarantine purposes. quarantine is not something that would happen in a health care facility. we admit patients who need acute supportive treatment in our hospital. >> that's doctor larry johnson. you may have seen her in our own doctor sanjay gupta's recent report from lubbock's covenant children's hospital. >> how do you even begin to approach as a patient comes in? what do you what do you do for them? >> most of the patients who've

been admitted have had respiratory issues. they've been needing supplemental oxygen and respiratory support to help them get over the viral pneumonia part that we see with measles. >> and now one of those kids has died. and for the first time in a decade, a family is left to mourn the victim of a nearly 100% preventable disease of childhood. one final note on the woman who holds the position and name at least of doge administrator amy gleason. her name was announced yesterday in the white house, has not said how long she's been on the job. we did learn that she led a doge meeting last week, but did not say what her role or title was when addressing the staff. for more, we're joined by cnn political analyst, trump biographer and new york times senior political correspondent maggie haberman. um, before we talk about the cabinet amy gleason, it is she actually i mean, do we know much about her? >> we know some about her. she she is the the acting doge administrator. and i just want to point out that acting doesn't mean anything in this capacity. this is not a senate confirmed position, which is

what acting refers to. she's just in that role. >> she was on vacation in mexico, which. >> might still be. >> which is weird. >> yeah. i don't think she didn't know that she was the doge administrator, which some people have been suggesting. i think she did know that. i certainly don't think that she expected it to get rolled out yesterday and announced yesterday. and again, this is something that if the the team involved in all of this and the white house was not so focused on secrecy, despite saying that they are being very transparent, this would not have been a days long story. they could have just answered this, and this came up in court proceedings. and i think this is part of why they ultimately said it. but look, she worked in the in the u.s. digital services in the first trump term for a few years and then overlapped a bit into into biden. um, she has a long history with in the health care industry. i think she had a sick child at one point. she was actually honored by the obama white house at one point as a champion of change. i think that she is actually not unimportant in all of this, but that she is

so in the shadows is is pretty striking. >> um, what is your biggest takeaway from the cabinet meeting. >> that elon musk, um, has, uh, more significance in donald trump's eyes right now than almost any member of that cabinet, at least while they were sitting there. i mean, look, we. >> it didn't seem like anybody in that room. i mean, he's looming in the, in the, you know, in the doorway, uh, over them. it's fascinating to see. >> and he's who donald trump turned to first. and i think part of that is to try to make elon musk answer questions that trump doesn't want to have to answer himself about. this email that went out over the weekend, it's actually it's something that trump is pretty deft at, which is trying to push blame for a problem over on someone else. and this was something that musk created, but it was also something trump clearly endorsed and did again there. um, but then on the other hand, say that if it goes well, it's something that he wanted. we know that there was a lot of chaos within the administration around this email. we know that cabinet secretaries and cabinet agency officials were trying the white house repeatedly for guidance over the weekend

because they weren't sure what this meant, and then they were sort of left to their own devices. this is putting out, in some case, multiple emails, uh, you know, at least one at national security agencies and so forth saying, don't respond to this for a variety of reasons. musk was pretty derisive of the federal workforce, just in a sweeping way. uh, and so was trump at various points in that meeting. and i don't know that that's necessarily long term helpful for trump. i don't know that it matters for musk, because i don't think musk is necessarily going to be there all four years. but trump wants to be. >> well, what is um, what's the end game on that? i mean, is there a number of cuts? is there because obviously any significant analysis of whose jobs are important, whose jobs are not? what's fraud, waste and abuse? that would take time. it would take coordination, none of which is going on. they're just going in in a sysadmin position and just culling people. >> and that's how musk has operated at other companies. and so it's not surprising that he's applying it. here. he is

applying what has been a a logic. it's not strategic in how he's approaching it, but certainly a logic to how he has handled budgets at companies. he's taken over and tried to change them. it's a little harder in the federal government. to your point, you can end up cutting things that become politically problematic for you. they are moving so fast that i'm not sure how much of this sinks in for readers or people watching us right now, but for people whose jobs are affected or whose programs are affected, they may care. and in some cases, some of them will turn out to have been trump supporters. >> and a lot of people are veterans as well. i mean, you know, working for the federal government. i want to play something else. the president said at the cabinet meeting. >> is it your view of your authority that you have the power to call up any one of or all of the people seated at this table and issue orders that they're bound to follow? >> oh, yeah, they'll follow the orders. yes they will. >> no exceptions. >> no exceptions. well let's see, let me think. oh, yeah. yeah. she'll have an exception.

of course. no exceptions. you know that. >> it's interesting to hear kind of the forced laughter in with a lot of the maybe it's real laughter. it just sounds it just it sounds odd to me. >> look, i think that everybody in that administration knew that this was going to be a different type of administration than the first term. i think that the people who helped pick these cabinet secretaries were looking for people who they who they believed were going to align with trump, who were not going to try to stymie his agenda. uh, and trump did feel stymied in his agenda and with reason in some cases. but in other cases, there were people who, uh, you know, believed that he was asking them to do something that was out of the scope of what they could do or was inappropriate and so forth. so it depends on what we're talking about here. right. if he's calling up the treasury secretary and asking him to do something related to, to, you know, something in the treasury department, or if he's calling up howard lutnick and it relates to commerce, that's a little different than if he's calling up, say, the secretary of

defense and issuing an order related to the military that somebody else in a different position might take issue with. and i think that's where this gets this gets unclear. >> maggie haberman, thanks so much. appreciate it. after the cabinet meeting, white house chief of staff susie wiles had a closed door lunch with senate republicans. according to senator josh hawley, who was there. she described elon musk place in the administration hierarchy this way, quoting senator hawley, quote, musk is working directly with the president, and the president then works with the cabinet secretaries. maine independent senator angus king, who caucuses with democrats, was not at the meeting. he and i spoke shortly before air time. senator king, when you see the images today of the cabinet meeting, elon musk, standing in the corner with the cabinet, gather around president trump. where do you think the power lies in that room? does this cabinet have power over their own departments? >> well, that's a really good question, anderson, because elon musk seems to be sending the emails, sending the the firing notices, all of these kinds of things, and they're coming from him. and he said something

really interesting today that was sort of ominous. uh, they talked about ebola and how they accidentally canceled canceled an ebola prevention program. and then he said, but we realize we made a mistake. so we fixed it. we replaced it. the implication of that is that elon musk decides what we're going to fund and what we aren't. and that's really what worries me about what's going on. all this deluge of news about what's going on in ukraine or nato or, uh, you know, firing people. we're missing something big, which is the usurpation of of congress's power by the president, by the executive, and the framers divided power between the congress and the president for a reason. and they didn't want power all in one set of hands, whether it's the president or elon musk, because they realize that people get abused by their government if too much power is concentrated. so that's what really bothers me about what's going on. >> the president trump won one of maine's electoral votes in

2016, 2020 and 2024. what do you say to your constituents who say, look, elon musk is a tech genius who has helped, you know, if he's helping to modernize the government and cut out fraud and waste? what's wrong with that? >> well, i think the couple of things that i want to point out to them, and i was actually on the radio in bangor, maine this morning talking about this, uh, number one, uh, nobody elected him. we don't even know what his status is. number two, we don't know who these people are or what they are doing, by the way. they don't know what they're doing. making mistakes like ebola or firing 350 people who manage our nuclear stockpile. they rectified that in a few days. but the point is, this isn't being done in any systematic way. and i don't think elon musk should be given this power. he doesn't know anything about the government. he doesn't know anything about what agencies actually do. >> president trump got into a tense back and forth with the democratic governor of your state, janet mills, at the the white house last week. the context was his ban on transgender women playing

women's sports. it was really the dynamics, though, the confrontation that stood out. i just want to play that for our viewers. >> i understand maine is maine here. the governor of maine. are you, uh, not going to comply with that? >> i'm complying with state and federal laws. >> well, we are the federal law. well, you better do it. you better do it because you're not going to get any federal funding at all if you don't. and by the way, your population, even though it's somewhat liberal, although i did very well there, your population doesn't want men playing in women's sports. so you better you better comply because otherwise you're not getting any federal funding. every state. good. i'll see you in court. i look forward to that. that should be a real easy one. and enjoy your life after governor, because i don't think you'll be in elected politics. >> after the exchange, trump education department launched an investigation at the state of maine. putting aside the issue of transgender athletes. what did you make of the president threatening to withhold federal aid and the governor and threatening the governor's

career and suggesting federal law basically begins and ends with the white house? >> well, there are two problems. and you just touched on one of them, the statement we are the law. that reminds me of the king of france. you know, i am the law, and we don't have a king here. we don't have a dictator. and the very fact that he thought that that he said that we are the law. that was pretty chilling. and it tells you the direction that their thinking is, is going in. the second piece is these are funds that are coming to maine by virtue of laws passed by congress and signed by president. an appropriations bill is a law. and that gets back to the original point i was making, that there's something much deeper and more important going on here. and that is the executive, the presidency pulling the power of congress, which the framers put there for a reason, to protect our freedom, pulling it into his or her hands. in this case, it's president trump. listen, the basic responsibility of the president is spelled out in article two of the constitution. and here it is. and it's a

responsibility. it's not a power. it's a responsibility. the exact words are, see that the laws are faithfully executed. that's in the end of article two of the constitution. see that the president is to see that the laws are faithfully executed. it doesn't say, see that the laws he likes are being faithfully executed, or see that the laws that he doesn't like aren't going to be faithfully executed. that's his job. and that's what the constitution assigns to him. and the constitution assigns to the congress the power of the purse, the power to pass laws. if he doesn't like the department of of the consumer finance protection bureau, come to congress and get us to repeal it. the presidency does not have the power to just arbitrarily say, we don't like this department. we're going to knock it out. and if we allow the president, any president to get that power, we're in trouble. anderson. >> senator angus king, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> yes, sir. >> a quick programing note. republican house speaker mike

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riviera of the middle east. in a deeply divided and dangerous region, in a deeply difficult time, this proposal has been criticized as a deeply unserious, even ridiculous one. and overnight, the president seemed to double down on the ridiculousness. he shared a fake a.i. generated video. unclear exactly where it originated on his social media. now, if you haven't seen it, it's kind of a fever dream of a fantasy of what trump gaza would be like. take a look. >> donald shlomo mantzur set you free. bringing the light for all to see. no more tunnels. no more fear. gaza is finally here. trump gods are shining bright. golden future a brand new light. feast and dance. the beat is done. trump gaza number one. trump gaza. shining bright. golden future a brand new light. the deal is done. trump gaza number one.

>> well, as absurd as it is, the details such as they are, are the broad brush strokes of the president's vision for gaza are also astounding. under the president's proposal, the united states would take control of gaza, effectively seizing a sovereign territory. one that israel, by the way, has, of course, been fighting in for more than a year and still doesn't control. >> the u.s. will take over the gaza strip, and we will do a job with it, too. we'll own it and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded bombs and other weapons on the site. i do see a long term ownership position, and i see it bringing great stability to that part of the middle east. >> the u.s. is going to own the gaza strip, which, according to the president, would be possible without united states troops. boots on the ground. >> basically, the united states would view it as a real estate transaction where we'll be an investor in that part of the world. and no rush to do

anything. we wouldn't need soldiers at all that would be taken care of by others. and the investments are taken care of by others. also. >> others integral to the president's plan is removing the millions of palestinians who already live in gaza so that the development can take place. he mentioned egypt and jordan as relocation spots, something the leaders of those countries say is a nonstarter. and as for a right to return, according to the president, that doesn't seem to be in the cards. >> i don't think people should be going back to gaza. i think that gaza has been very unlucky for them. they've lived like hell. they lived like you're living in hell. gaza is not a place for people to be living. >> well, later that night, kaitlan collins attempted to get some clarity on the point. >> just to follow up on what you were saying about the gazans leaving gaza, going to other countries. one, where exactly are you suggesting that they should go? and two, are you saying they should return after it's rebuilt? and if not, who do you envision living there? >> i envision a world, people

living there, the world's people. i think you'll make that into an international. unbelievable place. i think the potential and the gaza strip is unbelievable. and i think the entire world, representatives from all over the world will be there. and they'll and they'll live there. palestinians also palestinians will live there. >> some palestinians, along with the world's people. the white house press secretary, caroline leavitt, tried to clean up some of the debris the next day, claiming that palestinians would just be temporarily located. >> the president has made it clear that they need to be temporarily relocated out of gaza for the rebuilding of this effort. again, it's a demolition site right now. it's not a livable place for any human being. and i think it's actually quite evil to suggest that people should live in such dire conditions. >> well, that's what she said, not what he said. days later. >> i think that it's a big mistake to allow people, the palestinians or the people living in gaza to go back yet

another time. and we don't want hamas going back and think of it as a big real estate site. and the united states is going to own it and will slowly, very slowly, we're going to rush. >> so he elaborated on that idea during his sit down with bret baier ahead of the super bowl, saying in no uncertain terms that palestinians would not even want to come back. >> no, they wouldn't, because they're going to have much better housing, much better. in other words, i'm talking about building a permanent place for them, because if they have to return now, it will be years before you could have. it's not habitable. it would be years before it could happen. >> now, allies of the president have suggested this could all be the opening salvo in a negotiation or attempt to push arab nations into formulating their own plan, and they are working on alternative plans, none of which, it seems, involve golden statues of donald trump and cash raining from the sky. joining me now is former trump white house communications director alyssa farah griffin. i mean, is this a sign that he

just doesn't give an f? and it put out this video overnight? >> yes. um, so donald trump is in the trolling phase of his presidency. he has such popularity within the republican party. there is virtually nothing that he can do that is going to make folks walk away from him. just a few days ago, he called zelenskyy a dictator, and republicans kind of complained a little bit and are already some in congress gearing up, hoping he'll run for a third term. that's the position he's in. so i think that he sort of backed up into this idea of developing gaza. it was something that occurred to him, this is my theory. and then he now his staff around him have to backfill that and turn it into an actual policy. it's an untenable position. i don't have to tell you that this has been disputed territory for. millennia. >> i mean, it's. >> they're extremist factions that will feel like they have claim to the land, but i really. >> think this is a potential mobilizing thing that terrorist groups around the world could rally around. >> that was actually my thought when i saw the a.i. generated video, because this white house, they love to troll and they kind of love the digital currency of

the meme world. like they put out an asmr thing of people being deported. and now it's this. but the problem is, there are extremist elements in this world who will see that. and that's actually inciting. that's actually something saying we are going to relocate palestinians from their land, develop it, and it's not. >> sort of the core of the issue. >> it's really it's really yeah, it's not kind of dancing around the core issues there. but i think that trump in this second term, he's seeing things through the sense of dollar signs. he's seeing things like the real estate developer he always was. and it's going to take advisors around him putting some guardrails on that. or he can walk himself into some complicated things. >> it's interesting though. i mean, given the amount of i mean, blood and tears and, you know, decades and decades of. global, you know, angst and meetings and, and thoughts on the region to just have a u.s. president just doing this. i mean, it's it's extraordinary. >> it's extraordinary. but

here's the thing. donald trump has a lot to be proud of in the middle east. i think that a lot of americans feel like he's being more aggressive in getting israeli hostages, including american hostages, out. they think that the abraham accords were a tremendous breakthrough. >> and it was i mean, it was a different way of looking at the issue. and, i mean, this had ripple effects that maybe were unintended. but, i mean, it was a. >> but these. >> were bold thing. >> and that was that was a serious diplomatic effort between nations that took years to get underway. this now feels very ad hoc, and it almost feels like a going backward in the way that he's approaching the region at a more tumultuous time than his first term in office. >> because the u.s. was on the cusp, or israel was on the cusp of a deal, perhaps with saudi arabia, for recognition, which arguably is one of the reasons hamas decided to to do what they did on october 7th to to stop that, that deal. >> yes. and i think what the trump white house would tell you is this is all part of a negotiating tactic, and it's about putting pressure on hamas to get more hostages out. i'm just not sure if i see it that way. there was a pause in the ceasefire after his first comments about basically

leveling gaza. and i think this this very comfortable, confident donald trump. there are some strengths to it, but on the diplomatic stage, it can be incredibly dangerous. >> griffin, thanks so much. appreciate it. a lot more ahead tonight. several more accidents, incidents in your collisions in what's already been a deadly four weeks in commercial aviation. we'll have the latest on that and some perspective on what the problems are in the sky and more on the middle east and israel. memorial services for israeli hostage shiri bibas and her two young sons, ariel and kfir, whose bodies were finally returned by hamas, who took them last week. >> cookbooks. corporate fat cats swindling socialites, doped up cyclists, then, yes, more crooked politicians. i have a feeling we won't be running out of those anytime soon. >> a new season of united states of scandal with jake tapper, march 9th on cnn. >> how could anyone possibly know that every single one of these pistachios is guaranteed to be wonderful? by reading. right? here. wonderful

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struck the tail of a delta airlines plane while taxiing at seattle-tacoma international airport. >> right now. >> i'm very scared to even get on the plane. i'm being honest with you. it's too many mishaps going on. >> some of this is coincidence. safety experts say, but there is also an underlying crisis. >> it's a underscoring of just how stressed the system is. we've got a lot more traffic going on these days. we've got controllers and pilots under stress because of the increased use of of runways. >> what's the most immediate problem that needs to be fixed right now? >> we need to make sure that our air traffic controllers have the personnel to do their job, so that they are not forced to be doing overtime, forced to be staffing more than one position at a time. >> reflecting the overall volume of air traffic in just what air traffic controllers have to deal with between january of 2023 and

september of 2024, the ntsb investigated 13 runway incursions in the u.s. involving so-called for hire flights, meaning smaller charter flights. those incursions ranged in categories from some with no immediate safety consequences to others where a collision was narrowly avoided. anderson. >> brian. todd. brian, thanks. joining me now is cnn aviation correspondent pete muntean. so, pete, can you just put into perspective how close this near collision at midway really was? >> well, the preliminary data from flightradar24 shows that the two planes were separated by only 2000ft. anderson, when the southwest crew admirably stopped the accident chain. but at that speed, disaster would have occurred in about five seconds time. believe it or not. this is not the closest near collision that we have seen since they started grabbing headlines two years ago. in february 2023, a fedex flight came only hundreds of feet from landing on top of a departing southwest airlines flight. that incident at austin's airport took place in the early morning in dense fog, as the fedex crew was making a

landing entirely by their instruments. the first officer happened to look outside and saw the lights of the southwest flight still on the runway. it is that vigilance that saved the day, and investigators will likely find a similar narrative after yesterday's incident at chicago midway. what's clear right now, at least according to the faa, is that the private jet was in the wrong place at the wrong time. >> let me ask you, pete, as a pilot, i mean, the pilot who made that split second decision to pull up and not and not land, which was clearly the right thing to do. um, how dangerous is that? i mean, would he have known or she have known what was in the sky above them? >> it's it's really important to always keep your head on a swivel while flying. and the southwest crew really needs some kudos here for knowing to make this go around, this aborted landing. and they're so common that nasa even studied aborted landings. they found about out of about one about every 1000 flights of a major u.s. airline in the united states, a go

around happens between an average of one and three times. so if you extrapolate that 45,000 flights a day on average in the u.s., it means about a dozen or so aborted landings each day. most of them don't really make news because they're relatively routine for pilots of all levels. i teach people how to do them early on in their training. it's really a pilot's ace to play. if you don't like the way the landing is set up, you simply you don't like the way it looks or another airplane is too close for comfort, or they're birds or what have you. you can always go around. >> i sometimes wondering, are we seeing are we just seeing these near accidents more? or are things becoming less safe? >> the spotlight is definitely on aviation right now, but you have to remember that flying on a commercial flight in the united states is the safest form of transportation. hands down. you have a 1 in 11,000,000 chance of dying on a commercial flight in the u.s. put it into context. do you have a better chance of being struck by

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