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trump to agree on ukraine's future, and also on distancing himself from vladimir putin? cnn chief national affairs correspondent jeff zeleny is at the white house. jeff, this is an incredibly consequential meeting. very significant. what needs to happen for it to be a success? >> good morning erica. it's a very important meeting. and think of it really as the second act in three acts that we have seen and will see this week here at the white house. the first act, of course, was the french president, emmanuel macron, coming to visit president trump on monday. now, this, of course, the prime minister of the united kingdom, keir starmer, and tomorrow leading into the visit, expected to visit at least by ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy, all a piece of the really a reset relationship and revived peace talks that are underway. but more importantly, the particular relationship that the u.s. will have in ukraine. if there is a peace deal down the road with a russia. but the prime minister today making clear this is his first meeting with the president here at the

white house, but he has started to develop a relationship with him after he was elected. they dined at mar-a-lago, the president's florida estate, and they have had several phone calls. but this meeting will certainly test the relationship, because the big question hanging over all of this is if there is some type of a peace deal, what are the security guarantees for ukraine? president trump said this yesterday that it's europe's burden. >> i'm not going to make security guarantees beyond very much. we're going to have europe do that because it's in you know, we're talking about europe is their next door neighbor. >> so of course, the underlying issue of all of this is will the u.s. have a role in. guaranteeing some type of security? translating that that putin doesn't do this again and invade ukraine. so that is the central underlying question here. but taking steps into this meeting, the british prime minister making clear earlier

this week that britain will devote more of its gdp to military spending. that is something that the american president here has wanted. donald trump believes that europe has not carried its end of the deal. so going into this meeting, there are many things being set up for this enduring relationship. but erica, we shall see if the president moves away at all or urges putin to offer any concessions. so far, he is not. >> yeah, absolutely. jeff, i did also want to ask you about new this morning. the president now threatening to double tariffs on china and saying that those 25% tariffs for mexico and canada, those will go into effect on tuesday. what more is the white house saying about that plan this morning? >> erica, if this sounds familiar, it should because this is something the president threatened a month ago, but then in the final hours, put a reprieve on tariffs on mexico and canada. he says that that 30 day reprieve is going to be over next week. on march 4th. he intends to levy these tariffs.

of course, there are big concerns what that would do for the auto industry, big concerns, what that would do for the economy overall. a tariff is a tax. of course, that is paid on people who use the goods. so that of course is american. so we shall see if these tariffs go into effect. he says they will. but i recall a month ago he also said they would and gave them a last minute deal. interestingly, though, the date of march 4th, next tuesday, it would be the day that he is scheduled to give his first joint address to the house and senate. basically a new president's version of the state of the union address. so it will be interesting to see if he uses that speech as a moment to talk about these tariffs. but as for now, at least, the president is once again threatening tariffs on the neighbors to the north and the south of the united states. >> jeff zeleny one of the smartest minds i know in washington. i got to say, you make it. you make me feel good when you say the thing that i was thinking to coinciding with that address. so we will all be watching to see what happens with that. thank you, my friend. >> great to.

>> see you. also with us this hour, cnn chief national security correspondent alex marquardt. alex, as we're looking at what is going to come out of potentially of this meeting today, this visit from the prime minister to the white house. i know you've been in communication with the british government this week. we're talking a lot about what's expected on the u.s. side. what does the prime minister hope to achieve here? >> erica, the prime. minister is trying to move the ball forward. and of course, i agree with our esteemed colleague jeff zeleny that this is the second part of this three part series of these european leaders coming to the white house this week. they're essentially all on a joint campaign to try to get president trump to stick with ukraine, to continue this security assistance for ukraine. and, of course, the big question about security guarantees. now, the brits, of course, have their own unique interests. there will be a lot of discussions about the economy, about trade, about tech. but ukraine really is the issue of the hour. and i have been told by british officials that that prime minister starmer does want to get into some specifics with the trump administration. essentially, starmer is taking the baton from president macron just a few days ago, both of these men want what

they're calling a backstop from the from the trump administration. if and when there is a peace deal between russia and ukraine. what would that look like in terms of a deterrent force on the ground to make sure that russia does not invade ukraine again, starmer and macron have talked about boots on the ground, some 30,000 troops that they could put into ukraine as peacekeepers. we have heard president trump say very clearly he does not want u.s. troops in harm's way. so the big question now, is there anything else that starmer and macron can convince trump to do in terms of american assistance that would help with that backstop, as they're calling it? could there be long range missiles that are positioned, for example, in poland? are there big planes, transportation aircraft? is there intelligence that the u.s. can offer? so this is going to be a british effort to try to get assurances from the american president that we have not yet heard, because the, the, the trump has been very averse to committing anything.

we have this big minerals deal that's going to be signed between president zelenskyy and trump tomorrow. but the u.s. is making very clear there is nothing in that deal that guarantees american security assistance. so there is a lot of work on the european front that still needs to be done with the trump administration. >> certainly, i find interesting. i spoke with kurt volker just about an hour ago, who said he actually wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of a verbal agreement, not in the signed agreement, but a verbal agreement that president trump would be a part of, to say if europe is threatened, that perhaps the u.s. would come to their aid. be interesting to see if that comes out of it. um, this is all you know, this is part two, as you were saying. as jeff was saying, part three really comes tomorrow when president zelenskyy visits the white house. there is so much riding on that. there's been so much back and forth. the visit only just confirmed, i believe today by zelenskyy's team. um, what do we expect out of that, given how tenuous this relationship has been between the two men? >> it's been such a tumultuous few weeks. just a couple of weeks ago, we heard president zelenskyy at the munich security conference essentially saying we can no longer count on the

united states. the relationship between the u.s. and europe has changed for good. we've we've seen president zelenskyy get a little bit aggressive about what he wants from the trump administration. i'm not sure that that works with president trump. but at the same time, president zelenskyy knows president trump very well. he understands that president trump likes flattery. so i think we can expect to see a lot of that on display tomorrow. and he understands that president trump is transactional. and i think that's where the origin of this minerals deal really comes from. and it was offered. it was put on the table by president zelenskyy before trump even took office. but it is clear that zelenskyy thinks that he can give president trump a win. and president trump can say, we have struck a deal that is beneficial to not just ukraine, but to the united states as well. and i think a key component here is president zelenskyy wanted to make sure that he was the first one to meet with president trump ahead of president putin. we have heard trump say that he plans to meet with putin at some point. it was rumored for this

week, of course, that isn't happening. so this is going to be a win in zelenskyy's book that he gets to meet with president trump. first he gets to sign this deal, but of course, he's not getting those assurances. he's not getting those guarantees from the american administration. that's something else that he's going to be working on with president trump tomorrow. erica. >> yeah, absolutely. alex. really appreciate it. thank you. happening now in washington. usaid workers returning to their offices at the ronald reagan building for the final time. they have 15 minutes, just 15 minutes to gather their belongings and get out. cnn's arlette saenz joining us now. um, this is also we should note for folks not familiar with with perhaps washington, d.c., things are pretty close together. this is happening really just steps from the white house. um, walk us through what is happening for these folks today and what comes next. >> well. >> erica. >> throughout the morning. >> we have. seen usaid workers streaming in and out of the headquarters here as they're

coming to collect their belongings. as you noted, these impacted workers, people who have been terminated, laid off or placed on administrative leave have been given specific timeframes where they can come collect their items from their workspaces of today and tomorrow, mostly in 15 minute increments. we have seen people coming out, walking out of this building, carting boxes, tote bags and as you can see behind me right now, as people are starting to trickle out, there are rounds of applause from the supporters who have gathered here this morning. really just trying to offer some words of appreciation for so many of these usaid workers for their service. now, we had a chance to speak with one of the impacted workers a little bit more earlier this morning. her name is julianne alphin, 25 years old. she had been participating in the presidential management fellows program. that is a program that was eliminated by president trump via executive order just last week. and today, she had the opportunity to come collect her, her belongings, a

moment that she called heartbreaking. take a listen. >> it's been horrible. uh, there's been, like, little to no communication with us. we're being treated terribly. um. uh, i'm worried about overseas staff coming back. i've. i've heard there's a little to no communication with them. um, there's been no, like, offboarding with us. it's just been very sudden. everything. one day, being locked out of the building, the next being told you're on admin leave, things like that. it's been very difficult. >> so that provides a little bit of a window into how some of these federal workers who have been impacted by the trump administration's cuts are feeling in this moment. usaid is a really one of the agencies that has seen some of the most widespread cuts since trump has taken office, and today, these workers are able to come in trying to collect their belongings, while many of them

are facing a very uncertain future in their own careers, but also as they wonder what future usaid abroad might look like down the road. >> absolutely. arlette, really appreciate it. thank you. still to come this hour, house speaker mike johnson insisting his party will not cut medicaid, medicare or social security to pay for president trump's agenda. we're live on capitol hill with the budget back and forth, and also the democratic response. plus, gene hackman and his wife found dead in their new mexico home. what police are saying this morning as tributes to the legendary actor warren. >> amid upheaval and sweeping changes, the. >> president of the united states. >> trump heads to capitol hill to share what's next. follow cnn for complete coverage and in-depth analysis. the presidential address to congress tuesday at eight on cnn. >> like a relentless weed. moderate to severe ulcerative colitis symptoms can keep coming back. start to break away from

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>> way to square that difference. the other major change is that the house passed budget blueprint to committees to make much steeper cuts than what was outlined in the senate bill. >> and this is where some of that key tension is coming from. when you talk to republican senators, you have people like josh hawley who have been warning the house that they are not going to accept a plan that slashes programs like medicaid. now, the speaker of the house has repeatedly argued that he does not want to make some changes to medicaid. but here's what he said about whether or not republicans would be moving forward with those cuts. >> the president said, over and over and over, we're not going to touch social security, medicare, medicare or medicaid. we've made the same commitment. now, that said, what we are going to do is go into those programs and carve out the fraud, waste and abuse and find efficiencies.

>> but, erika, just to give you a little bit of sense of how republicans are going to find it very difficult to sort of square that circle is the fact that the house passed budget plan does require the energy and commerce committee that has jurisdiction over programs like medicaid to find more than $800 billion in cuts. now, when you look at scores about what kind of reforms and medicaid get you to that number. waste, fraud and abuse are not going to get you $800 billion in savings. and that is what is making so many republican senators nervous right now. >> yeah. and what is leading to so many questions. lauren, appreciate the reporting. thank you. joining me now to discuss further, democratic congresswoman becca balint of vermont, who is a member of the house budget committee. it's good to have you with us. you know, picking up on where we just left off with my colleague lauren fox on the hill, there has been a lot of question, i know specifically from democrats about what this could mean for a number of those programs. lauren talked about what speaker johnson said to kaitlan collins last night. last hour, i spoke with one of your republican

colleagues of pennsylvania and asked him specifically whether those millions of americans who currently, uh, have benefits from medicaid, medicare, social security, if they would see any changes to their benefits. here's his response. >> yeah, they will see no change to their benefits. in fact, by saving medicaid, by rooting out the waste, abuse and fraud which you've heard, but also those who are ineligible, uh, we will have more allocation to those who who are truly in need of medicaid. there will be no cuts to medicaid or medicare. >> so you hear it from from your colleague there on the other side of the aisle. president trump says there won't be cuts. speaker johnson says there will not be. do you trust your republican colleagues? >> absolutely not. absolutely not. because we know where the money is and the money that they would need to cut will have to come from medicaid. and so the other thing that i want

americans to know is that medicaid is a very tight program. there is not a lot of waste, fraud and abuse in the system. and so, so many experts have looked at this and have said the kind of cuts that they would need to make in order to deliver these tax cuts for president trump will decimate medicaid. and if you just look at their so-called waste, fraud and abuse, it doesn't add up. the math doesn't add up. they know it doesn't add up. and i think it's indicative that they know it doesn't add up because you've got house speaker johnson instructing republican colleagues to no longer do town hall meetings when they're back home, because they know the american people do not believe them. >> i know you were part of a town hall meeting with your vermont senate colleagues last night. some 34,000 folks from your state dialed into that. um, one of the ideas that is being floated is, is a shifting in the way. basically, medicaid is

handled and the way payments are handled, potential changes to federal funding that could put more of the burden on states, specifically in your home state of vermont. could the state handle changes? >> absolutely not. absolutely not. we cannot pick up those costs. we are a tiny state. we have a lot of people who are living on the margins. a huge number of vermonters rely on medicaid, whether it's exclusively or as as supplemental, to make ends meet for their families. and i just have to say, it's not just for vermont. it is the speaker's own home district. and we were very clear in the budget committee of outlining for our republican colleagues just what their cuts would mean for their constituents. >> we did hear from republicans prior to this vote, some who ended up voting, obviously, for the blueprint here. you talk about being in those budget committee meetings. and we've also heard from senators, republican senators, you likely just heard some of them speaking in lauren's report there. there is some concern, legitimate

concern. they share the concerns that you share about these cuts. how much wiggle room do you think there is with your republican colleagues and how how are you leaning into that? are you having those conversations with them, hoping to pull them over to your side? >> always. we only need three to come to their senses on this. look, they know it's bad for their constituents, which is why we know they were engaged with the president and with the speaker last week. so they know it is going to materially harm their own people, which is why they don't want to be accountable to their constituents right now. so always we are looking for partners across the aisle. but right now, i got to tell you, it feels like every single time we think we have an agreement or a deal, they backtrack. they are not trustworthy partners right now. >> is there any area where you see, even putting this aside for a moment in terms of policy discussions? is there an area in this last month or so where you have found common ground with

your colleagues across the aisle, that gives you hope, right? >> i always have hope because i'm a glass half full kind of gal. but look, if the president was going to put forward a plan to give us tax relief to folks who earn their income through tips, we would be completely on board with that. if the tax plan that he was putting forward was going to help working class and middle class people, we would absolutely be there. but that is not the plan that is being put forward, and it's going to add to the national debt. so i don't want any more republicans ever lecturing me on the debt or the deficit, because they all fell in line except for one person, representative massey, who actually lived his values on this. all those people who have said, we will not vote for anything that adds to the deficit, they all fell in line and they bent a knee to the president. >> congressman, i appreciate your time this morning. thank you. >> thank you so much.

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>> breaking news. we are learning that a gas company in new mexico is now assisting in the investigation into the deaths of gene hackman and his wife, betsy. police say that they were found dead on wednesday in their home following a request for a welfare check. their dog was also found dead in the home. there's no word yet on the cause of their deaths. the santa fe sheriff's office, however, has said they do not believe foul play was involved here. cnn entertainment correspondent elizabeth wagmeister joining us now with more, uh, there are certainly a lot of questions important again, that they say they do not believe foul play. um, uh, did play a role here, but the fact that the gas company is now involved. elizabeth. uh, what more do we know? >> yes, that is a new development that we are learning just moments ago now. we do not want to speculate here, but the fact that a gas company is assisting with this investigation could indicate that they are looking into the possibility of carbon monoxide poisoning. but again, we do not know the cause of death. the

police have not released any information pertaining to that. this is just an investigation at this point. the only thing that we do know from the police is that this morning they did tell us at cnn that there is no foul play suspected. now, as you said, erica, many more questions than answers at this point. it's a very bizarre situation, a sad, tragic ending for such a legend. even though he died at 95 years old and lived such a long, great life and of course had an illustrious career. so, erica, let's take a moment at that hollywood career. gene hackman was the blue collar common man on screen. it was no act. >> you know, i did a lot of things. i sold shoes, i drove trucks, i drove a cab, i jerked sodas. >> he grew. >> up loving movies starring jimmy cagney and edward g. robinson. >> my mother and i were at a film once, and she said, i want to see you do that someday. and

that was all it was needed. >> at. >> the pasadena playhouse, the aspiring actor met another young actor, dustin hoffman. the two were voted least likely to succeed. >> take a good look, pop. i'm buck barrow. >> that all changed when he was cast in bonnie and clyde. hackman was nominated for an oscar, the first of numerous antihero roles from the 1960s on. the acclaim covered up a potential career disaster. he was fired from the graduate, starring his pal hoffman, after just two weeks as mr. robinson. >> i thought it was like the beginning of the end for me. >> hackman pressed on a ski coach in downhill racer, an astronaut in marooned and a second best supporting actor nomination for i never sang for my father. there were tensions on set with father melvyn douglas, who would wanted another costar. in real life, hackman's own father left the family when he was just 13.

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do other films, but i can kind of relax as long as dustin doesn't get another one. >> i'm country. yes. i didn't figure you for a patriot. >> mr. raw. >> hackman finally did get to work with his lifelong friend in runaway jury. >> i've loved every minute of my career. there's been, you know, tough times, of course, but i like the process so much. >> now, the hollywood tributes are, of course, pouring in. he was one of the greats. everyone from francis ford coppola to george takei, uh, viola davis, antonio banderas and nathan lane, who says in a statement to cnn that he was his favorite actor and that he got to tell him that every day when they worked together on the birdcage. erica. >> another excellent film. elizabeth. really appreciate it. thank you. still to come here, the supreme court, pausing an order for the trump administration to pay $2 billion in foreign aid. we're going to break that down as well as some other somewhat head scratching

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this decision. >> yeah. erica, the first and most important thing to know about this is it's all about timing. this actually has nothing to do with the underlying legal dispute here. now, as you said, the trump administration announced that it would freeze about $2 billion in foreign aid that congress had allocated. now, a group of foreign aid agencies challenged that. they went to the district court. the trial court judge who said, trump administration, you have to spend all this money that you've frozen by midnight last night. now, yesterday afternoon, this case arrived to the supreme court and all the chief justice said is, hang on. we've only had this case for a couple hours. i want briefs from the parties. good idea. when you're trying to decide a difficult issue. and i want those briefs by friday. by tomorrow. so this is going to unfold very quickly. but it's hard to characterize this as a big win or a big loss for either side. >> right. it's just a pause. right. it is what it is. it's it's yet another pause in some ways as we look at this though, i mean, a lot of this comes back to when we look at who might ultimately win here. it's the

questions of the conflict of congress and balance of powers. and congress has allotted this money. what do you expect that we're going to see in those briefs? >> yeah, this case is a great example of the fundamental conflict that's animating so many of these cases that we're seeing come down on a nearly hourly basis. on the one hand, congress is saying and the challengers are saying congress has allocated that money. congress controls the purse strings under the constitution. and so the executive branch has to spend that money. on the other hand, the executive branch, donald trump, is saying, i'm the head of the executive branch. and if i want to not spend certain money, i have the ability to do that. so ultimately, as this case moves its way through the courts, it's really a question of who prevails in a conflict between, on the one hand, congress. on the other hand, the executive branch. it's a classic showdown between the two branches. it's a balance of powers question. and that's why it's so important. >> and is not the only balance of power. this question that we're seeing. so i was also struck by this yesterday when a doj attorney told a federal judge that the courts had no authority when it came to this

case of a fired federal official, somebody who investigates whistleblower complaints. also. i mean, we look at this as really it's testing the limits of presidential power yet again. ellie. >> yeah. so that case involved whether and under what circumstances the executive branch can fire executive branch attorneys, i think phrasing it to the courts, as the courts have no power here is the wrong way to phrase it. and i think it actually overstates the argument, really, the argument the executive branch was making and i think should have made is simply courts. you have your role as courts. you will rule on this case. but our position is whether and how we can fire executive branch personnel within the executive branch. that's up to us in the executive branch and not to congress to limit. so again, you're right, erica, we're seeing that exact same collision of powers here. >> we're seeing a lot of a lot of questions, a lot of testing, right. of the collision of powers, the balance of powers. also, again and again, these questions about whether the courts really matter to many people at this point. there was

a remarkable moment yesterday in senate confirmation hearings when folks were asked about whether they felt bound by court decisions, and he refused to say yes, basically, to follow the law. um, look, you and i have talked about a lot of things over the year. i just am curious about your reaction to those moments. >> this was a mystifying moment. i mean, you have john sauer a veteran, experienced attorney who is about to become the solicitor general of the united states, the united states lead advocate in the supreme court, asked the easiest question in human history, which is essentially, do you have to follow the courts? and he came through with this nonresponsive sort of hedgy answer. the answer is yes. the only correct legal, constitutional, ethical, responsible answer is yes. and i should add what john sauer said yesterday actually goes substantially beyond what donald trump himself has said. donald trump was asked this question a couple weeks ago in the oval office, and trump said, i always listen to the courts look, i'll appeal. and then trump proceeded to bash the courts. but he said, i will comply with the courts.

and trump thus far has actually never defied the court. so it's bizarre to me to see these nominees. i don't know what game they're playing here with, you know, suggesting they might not follow the courts, but that's a red line. john sauer knows very well what the right answer is there. >> yeah, it is. i mean, mystifying left me speechless, as you can tell, since i'm blabbering, ellie always appreciate it. good to see you, my friend. thank you. >> thanks, erica. all right. >> still to come here? a mysterious disease in africa, now responsible for the deaths of more than 50 people. what? we know ahead in the cnn newsroom.

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the mmr vaccine the best protection that we have. measles had actually been eliminated in the u.s. 25 years ago. we now have the first death in more than a decade. what is your biggest concern as we look at this outbreak? >> yeah, so i have a lot of concerns. i mean, first of all, this death is a tragedy because it's completely preventable. this vaccine that we have is some of the best vaccines available. and the fact that we have lost a child because people have not been able to avail themselves of the protection that these vaccines offer, is really just an unspeakable tragedy. the other thing that i'm concerned about is that this outbreak seems to be growing, and it is really the number of cases that we've seen in texas has doubled since last week. so really quite stunning. it's also spreading to other states, and we're going to continue to see this popping up, because we know that there are many communities throughout the united states that are just under-vaccinated. and that's really where measles can take root and spread quite

explosively. >> do you concern about the. are you concerned at all about the number of those who are unvaccinated, growing in this country? based on what we've seen over the last couple of years? >> yeah, absolutely. and that seems to be playing a role in particularly in texas. the vaccination exemptions, uh, has increased in recent years. and that's unfortunately what we're seeing now, which is the impact of that in terms of a lot of cases, a lot of hospitalizations. and unfortunately, this recent death. >> there are a couple of other headlines that i'd love to get your take on. so a meeting for the flu vaccine, right. so these were for flu vaccine experts. that meeting was actually canceled by the fda. um, without explanation. one of the attendees, though, telling cnn the meeting, we know it's typically held in march, right. because there's a production window that you have to make the flu vaccine for the next year. the fda. the fda now says it's going to publicize its recommendations in time for the vaccine to be made. the question is there are the recommendations. there are the

experts in the room we are still in, at least here in the new york area. what feels like a very active flu season of 2025. um, the fact that the. what does that say to you? >> yeah. so it's really puzzling. i mean, we are in a very active flu season. in fact, it's the worst flu season the united states has seen in a decade. so that really speaks to why it is so important that we have the best available science to guide the production of next year's vaccines. as you mentioned, this is a very fixed schedule, so it was a bit puzzling why the meeting was canceled. i don't know why it was canceled. um, but people who are involved have been sort of alarmed by that. and, you know, i think at best it just represents, you know, just another kind of part of the chaos that's been going on around our health agencies. but at worst, i think there is anxieties about how committed the administration is to making sure that americans have access to the best possible tools to protect themselves from the

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