going to have a lot of people over there. so we'll be working in the country. so i don't i don't i just don't think you're going to have a problem. i think when we have an agreement, you can say whatever you want about security, who's going to do it? and that's going to be a very pleasant conversation. the hard conversation is will we have an agreement? and i think the answer is yes. i think russia will agree. and i think that i really believe ukraine will agree also. >> discuss all. >> this as well. >> just just to point. >> off on that, if british troops are in ukraine keeping the peace and get attacked by russia, will you come to their aid.? >> if the british people are in ukraine and they get attacked, you know, i've always found about the british, they don't need much help. they can take care of themselves very well. you know what? no, it sounds like it's evasive, but it's not evasive. you know, the british are have been incredible soldiers. incredible military, and they can take care of themselves. but if they need help, i'll always be with

between our two countries. that is why this is the greatest alliance for prosperity and security. i think the world has ever seen. whenever necessary, we absolutely backed each other up. and that's it. >> could you take on russia by yourselves? >> well. >> all right, 1 or 2 more. justin wolfers. yes, ma'am. >> in his remarks at the munich security conference, vice president vance condemned free speech violations in the uk, particularly. could you respond? what is your message? >> i have an idea. we have the man right here. come on. let's go. jd, let's. we're putting you on stage. >> great. yeah. look, i said what i said, which is that we do have, of course, a special relationship with our friends in the uk and also with some of our european allies. but we also know that there have been infringements on free speech that actually affect not just

the british, of course, what the british do in their own country is up to them, but also affect american technology companies and by extension, american citizens. so that is something that we'll talk about today at lunch. >> we've had free speech for a very, very long time in in the united kingdom. and, and it will last for a very, very long time. well, no, i mean, certainly we wouldn't want to reach across u.s. citizens and we don't. and that's absolutely right. but in relation to free speech in the uk, i'm very proud of our our history. there. >> we discussed orchestra. we discussed in august with the australians and the brits. were you discussing discussing aukus with the prime minister, sir? >> what does that mean? >> aukus the australia u.s. defense alliance? >> well, we'll be discussing that. we've had another great relationship and you have to with australia. yeah, we've had a very good relationship with australia. please. >> mr. president, while we have the vice president here, are you both disappointed that the afd didn't come first in the german elections, given your previous support for the. >> no. whatever happens with

germany, look, the relationship has been very strong with germany, but we'll have to see what happens. they have a lot of things going on right now. we'll have to see. no, i'm not disappointed about anything. if anything, you would say that the group that we would be most opposed to lost and but we got along with them also. we have a very good relationship with all groups in germany. >> blackwater ceo erik prince was on our channel, news nation. he was talking about his proposal to use private forces to assist in deportations. have you read that proposal and do you support it? >> no, i haven't seen it. i don't think it's necessary. our people are doing a phenomenal job. i wouldn't be opposed to it necessarily, but i'd go to our military people and i'd go to tom homan and christie. i'd go to the various and ask, but i don't i don't see it as being. we're doing unbelievable. unbelievably and getting people out, getting criminals out, people that should have never been here, that the biden administration, with their stupid open borders, should have never allowed. they came in from

prisons and jails and mental institutions and gang members and drug dealers coming into our country like this. we're getting them out and we're doing really well. i mean, the level of effectiveness has been incredible. everybody is talking about, how about one more? >> mr. president. >> i know you've asked. >> mr. president, one on the middle east. >> go ahead. you look so nice. >> thank you. >> here we go. is the kill. >> mr. president, are there areas. >> specifically of ukraine that you're talking about in giving back, specifically crimea? have you gotten to those details yet on such an agreement? >> well, we you mean the areas that were taken? yes. there are a lot of areas that were taken. yeah, we've talked about it. a lot of the sea lion has been taken. and we'll be talking about that, and we're going to see if we can get it back or get a lot of it back for ukraine. if that's possible. we'll be seeing about that. okay. thank you very much. everybody. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. we're headed out. >> thank you.

>> thanks, guys. this. thanks. >> we have been listening to president donald trump alongside the uk's prime minister keir starmer inside the oval office answering reporters questions ahead of this big meeting between starmer and trump. starmer expected to ask trump for assistance when it comes to handling the future of ukraine. trump there giving an update on talks with russia, saying that russia has been acting very well, though he didn't want to specifically get into details about a peacekeeping force in ukraine, saying that he wants to have a deal first. notably, russia has said that they would not tolerate any kind of peacekeeping force, whether with u.s. or eu troops inside ukraine. the president there was also asked about some of his rhetoric toward ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy, who is set to go to the white house tomorrow. trump saying that they're going to sign off on this rare earth minerals deal in front of the press, even though zelenskyy said that it hadn't been finalized yet, the president there was asked whether he still thinks that zelenskyy is a dictator. trump

playing coy, saying, did i say that? i can't believe i said that. there was also an interesting interaction with keir starmer. when trump was asked about this backstop, this idea of having the u.s. support any kind of peacekeeping force in ukraine, he said that the u.s. will be there doing business, will be over there working in the country. digging our hearts out was the way that he described it. he was asked if british troops were attacked by russian forces in ukraine. would the u.s. come to the aid of those forces? trump acknowledged that it was a bit of an evasive answer. what he said, he jokingly said that the uk wouldn't likely need help, and he turned toward keir starmer and jokingly asked, could you take on russia by yourselves? really a telling moment there about trump's view of ukraine? >> and it was interesting, too, that he kind of was saying that just having u.s. there with private industry digging would in itself be a bit of a security guarantee. and it was also

interesting, as keir starmer sort of pulled him, macron interjected to say, actually, we're not getting all of our money back. what we're putting into the war in ukraine. and i also do just want to note, which is something that is certainly, i think, of interest to our domestic audience, which is that trump was asked, are you tracking how many veterans are being fired, as we see all of these federal workers who are getting the ax? he says, we are. he says we take good care of our veterans. he says we're watching that very carefully. he said they're trying to make it the smallest number possible and went on to again say, we're taking care of our veterans, we love our veterans. we're going to take good care of them. we should note, though, that thousands of veterans have been fired, and there are more firings expected and more veterans are expected to be fired. so far as we see these firings, they appear to be pretty indiscriminate as probationary employees are being canned despite their military service. republicans have been sounding this alarm privately to the administration, we're hearing democrats sound it pretty publicly. but listen, i think the headline here is all

of this love. so from keir starmer for president trump. let's go to jeff zeleny at the white house. hand-delivering. jeff, a letter from the king, which was clearly something that really appealed to president trump. he really ate it up. a letter inviting him for what keir starmer stressed. again, an unprecedented second state visit from the monarch. >> look, that was a bit of showmanship to open up this oval office meeting that is opening up several hours of discussion here. and there is no doubt that the american president loved to be invited from the king. perhaps a better question is, at the end of this 30 minutes or so, what the king may have to say of what donald trump just talked about this special relationship, um, the the meeting opened up in a very friendly way, and it was friendly throughout. but when you listen to some of the

answers that donald trump gave about vladimir putin, the friendship sounds very strong on that front as well. donald trump talking about vladimir putin, saying, i think he'll keep his word. i've spoken to him. i've known him for a long time now. we had to go through the russian hoax together. so really finding once again finding common cause with vladimir putin and treating him, uh, as though he is an ally, which, of course, that is not the case. so several different headlines there. what i think the bottom line is this security agreement, which has been a central question hanging over all of this, will the u.s. come to the aid of european allies and ukrainians? that is still very much an open question. donald trump essentially dismissing the idea of the europeans needing the u.s. as a backstop. you just went through it there. very interesting, he said. i think the british can stand for themselves, don't need our help.

well, the bottom line is it's just sheer raw math of it. there aren't enough military forces in great britain or france or throughout the whole of europe that can do what the u.s. can do in terms of being a deterrent for russia here. so i think this meeting ends with as many questions as it began about the actual progress here. and if the macron visit on monday and if this visit to today has pulled president trump farther from putin at all, it certainly did not sound like it. and finally, at the very end there, the president not only called zelenskyy a dictator, he tweeted that a couple times as well. but to your point, boris, he was coy when he was answering that. i think he was very well aware that he called zelenskyy at one point a dictator. of course, that would be putin, not zelenskyy. >> yeah, very good point. jeff zeleny at the white house for us. thank you so much. and in today's home front, 3 in 10 federal workers are veterans, and they're getting hit hard by

these firings, something that president trump was just asked about in the oval office a short time ago. >> unions make up 30% of the federal workforce. are you tracking how many veterans have been fired so far? >> yes, we. >> are doge to. >> we are and and we take good care of our veterans. so we're watching that very carefully. and we hope it's going to be a smaller number as possible. but we are having great success in slimming down our government. it's been really very successful. and some took pay outs and buyouts and others took other things, and some people were finding out don't even exist. we're finding that we have a lot of people that don't exist, that people thought that did. we will be making a statement on that. but we're taking care of our veterans. we love our veterans. we're going to take good care of. >> them. >> many veterans have now been fired from agencies across the government, and more firings of veterans are expected. and this really shouldn't come as a surprise, because for decades now, democratic and republican presidents, including president

trump himself in his first term, have made it a priority to bring the expertise and the institutional knowledge of veterans into the federal workforce, pitching them on serving their country even after their military service comes to an end. let's speak now with democratic congressman derrick tran from the armed services committee. he is a freshman member of the house. he is an army veteran, and he's also a former employment lawyer, as it were, who has introduced a bill to reinstate veterans who have been let go without cause. first off, congressman, as we try to get a sense of just how big this is, do you have a sense of how many veterans have been fired at this point? >> look, our estimates are telling us it's about 6000 veterans that have been just recklessly let go of from their workplace. >> and it does appear so far that these probationary employees have been let go indiscriminately. so are you looking at really what the share of the workforce is and just kind of tabulating that, or are you compiling this from anecdotes that you're hearing? >> that's right. we're we're looking at overall how many

federal employees have been fired. but more than anything, you know, what i'm hearing from my constituents and those that are affected is that they're off. you know, they dedicated their life to serving our country. and then now, you know, when they want to serve in the federal government. and they thought they had the dream job, it gets ripped away from them. >> so this bill that you've introduced, it's called the protect veterans jobs act. and it would also require these federal agencies to give a detailed explanation of why workers who are veterans were dismissed. how would that protect them? >> look, i think when it comes to congressional oversight, that's very important. when we have federal employees who are veterans, who serve their country and now they're in the workplace for us, we ask them to serve again. we got to make sure we protect them. it's the right thing to do. it's common decency. i think when we have federal agencies reporting to us and sharing with us the details on why these veterans are being terminated, we have better control over what's happening at the executive branch level. >> and of course, you're a democrat, so you're in the

minority, right? in the house. in the senate, this doesn't go anywhere without republicans. and what we've seen so far is that republicans, they they do seem to be sounding the alarm in some ways, a few of them at least. but privately, with the trump administration, this is obviously very public. do you have republican buy in on this? >> this is my bill is very nonpartisan, right. we all talk about how much we love our veterans and we want to take care of them. well, here's your chance. we have president trump just saying how much he cares about our veterans. here's his chance to protect them. you know, and talking to some of my republicans from across the aisle, they they tell me how great my bill is, but they're shying away from it because they're worried. they want to see how this plays out. >> you are formerly an employment lawyer. i don't know if you realized how handy that insight might come. these early days of your job as a congressman. how are you seeing this particular issue with veterans and also with other federal workers? yeah, from that

vantage point, absolutely. >> i think, you know, i thought i hung up my litigation employment jersey when i came to congress, but absolutely not. you know, i'm here to make sure that i protect veterans. i'm talking to my democratic colleagues. you know, we want to make sure not just veterans, but any employee that indiscriminately gets terminated without the right procedures protocol. this is something that should have been done surgically, not so recklessly, as we've seen with doge and how this administration is handling. >> can you speak to and we hear this from veterans, democrats and republicans who are in congress and how they see that job is is sort of continued service. we hear this from federal workers, too, about how they view their jobs as continued service after they leave the military. there are these caricatures of who federal workers are. can you tell us a little bit about how that is informing veterans? >> yeah. look, well, for me, you know, i served as a veteran and now i'm serving again in

congress as a federal employee. you know, and i think it's all about our nature to give back or wanting to protect this country and serve our country. wearing, donning the uniform and wearing that uniform and now putting on a suit and going into the workplace. it's about making sure that we take care of our community and our country. and that's the mindset that almost every veteran federal employee has when they come back in to serve. >> well, congressman tran, thanks for being with us. thank you as well for your service. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> and still to come, elon musk claiming the faa's communication system is just months away from catastrophic failure unless his company takes over a huge government contract. >> home front. brought to you by endless butterfly, shrimp and steak at golden corral. >> kids, i'm sure you're wondering why your mother and i asked you here tonight. it's because it's a buffet of all you can eat. butterfly shrimp and sirloin steak.

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serious risk. the starlink terminals are being sent at no cost to the american, to the taxpayer on an emergency basis to restore air traffic control connectivity. the situation is extremely dire, he says. cnn aviation correspondent pete muntean is here with us. all right, pete, so, i mean, is it dire? do we know what this is based on? >> well, this once again brings up these big questions about musk's conflict of interest with the federal government. and it is correct to say that the federal aviation administration's air traffic technology is old and in many cases, obsolete. and that's backed up by a government accountability office report out only two months ago. it said urgent faa actions are needed to modernize aging systems. 92% of the faa's facilities and equipment budget goes into sustaining that old system. what is not clear is why musk is targeting this now. how starlink could help. and really what it could cost in the long term. telecommunications are the backbone of the air traffic

control system. remember that directions to pilots are delivered via radio, but it's phone lines that are used to relay critical communication between air traffic control facilities. two years ago, verizon was awarded a contract to modernize that system. it's a $2 billion deal called fans that stands for the faa enterprise network services. that deal was essentially to build out an entirely new telecom network for the faa that would last until almost 2040. verizon says even after musk's swipe, it will continue working with the faa. here's the new statement. we are at the beginning of a multiyear contract to replace antiquated legacy systems. our teams have been working with the faa technology teams, and our solution stands ready to be deployed. we continue to partner with the faa on achieving its modernization objectives. musk is pretty low on details here. it is not clear how starlink satellite internet would help replace that plan. we do know from the faa it's testing starlink internet at three

different sites in the u.s., one at the faa testing center in atlantic city, new jersey. two more starlink terminals are being tested in alaska. the faa says those are non-safety critical sites. though alaska is an important proving ground for aviation, it's the state with the highest number of pilots per capita, where flying is really a vital way of life. >> really interesting. pete muntean, thank you for the report. we're also following fallout from musk's cuts to the federal workforce today. usaid employees who have been fired or laid off by the trump administration have been filing in and out of the agency's headquarters. each of them given just 15 minutes to grab their personal belongings and then leave. a crowd of supporters have been outside greeting the ousted workers. federal government employee musk addressed the cuts during yesterday's cabinet meeting and admitted that some mistakes were made. but he said they've been fixed. >> we will make mistakes. we won't be perfect. but when we make mistake, we'll fix it very

quickly. so, for example, with usaid, one of the things we accidentally canceled very briefly was ebola. ebola prevention. i think we all want ebola prevention. so we restored the ebola prevention immediately, and there was no interruption. >> the former senior usaid official who led the ebola outbreak response under president obama, obama jeremy konyndyk, is with us now. so jeremy is now the president of refugees international. i should mention, jeremy, what is the current status of ebola prevention efforts by the u.s.? >> well, the teams that used to lead that at usaid have been absolutely eviscerated. and i have i have no idea what elon musk is talking about when he says they've been brought back. um, the, the the vast majority of the staff who worked on ebola response, who worked on outbreak response and who worked on deploying disaster response as at usaid, have been forced out of their jobs. many of them are showing up at the building today

not to fight ebola, but to be, you know, to to be given 15 minutes to rapidly collect their belongings from years of service at usaid and then be forced back out of the building again. so, you know, he's just on a different planet. >> okay. are you saying that when he says this, he's saying it was fixed? are you saying he's lying? >> he is. uh. he's wrong. uh, whether he knows he's lying or simply just has no idea what he's actually cutting, i couldn't tell you. uh, what i can tell you is that he is incorrect. that the the vast majority of the workforce in the global health bureau and the bureau, humanitarian assistance at usaid, which are the teams that deploy after or during a major outbreak emergency to go support w.h.o. and support the responding country. those teams have not been reconstituted. >> okay. so tell us about those teams, how they kind of jump to when there is an outbreak and how you can't really know when that is.

>> yeah. so, you know, i led the response in 2014 to the huge ebola outbreak in west africa. and we were deploying, uh, virologists, disease experts, logisticians people who could set up ebola treatment units. uh, epidemiologists to go track down where, you know, where we were seeing the transmission occurring. all of that expertise is being pushed out of the agency right now. those people have not been brought back. they have not been restored. um, and of course, they're dismantling all of the surrounding infrastructure of the agency. so usaid now is not capable of deploying any kind of disaster response team because of the destruction that's ongoing. >> can you if there is a disaster, reconstitute a team like that? >> no. not easily. you know, these are capabilities that have been built up through kind of processes of iteration and experimentation and learning over decades, and they're incredibly capable. but you can't just toggle that capability on and off every couple of years. when you lose

those people, when you lose those systems, when you lose the kind of institutional muscle memory that you need in order to get, uh, a response team off the ground within hours of a major disaster. you can't just kind of cobble that back together once it's all falling apart. >> okay, so listen, just really quickly, if you're talking directly to elon musk, what do you need him to know? so that we are all protected so that this kind of thing can be contained. >> what we need. elon musk and the president and secretary rubio to know is that usaid is a vital part of securing and protecting america. it's a vital part of protecting us against health risks abroad. uh, responding to disasters. and it's a vital part of how america shows up in the world. the people who work there are incredibly hardworking. these are the kind of people who will walk headlong into an ebola hot zone in service of their country, and they deserve much better than the treatment

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pentagon, and this is cnn. >> we are keeping a close eye on this dangerous measles outbreak in west texas. we actually learned wednesday that a school aged child there has become the first person in the u.s. to die of the disease since 2015. health officials in lubbock say the child was unvaccinated. the patient was one of more than 130 confirmed cases across the region, including several in eastern new mexico. >> now, yesterday, during some of his first public comments on the outbreak, the new health and human services secretary, robert f kennedy jr.. not only downplayed the severity of it, but got some basic facts about the crisis wrong, including the number of dead. >> people who have contracted measles at this point, mainly in gaines county, texas. mainly, we're told, in the mennonite community, there are two people who have died.

>> let's discuss this with cnn's meg tirrell. meg, that was not the only thing the secretary got wrong yesterday. to be clear, that we know of so far, only one person has died. >> that's right. boris. >> the entire. >> way that secretary kennedy characterized. >> this outbreak. >> of measles. >> dismayed people in the public health world. >> take a listen to this. >> eva mckend for measles outbreaks this year. in this country. last year, there were 16. >> so it's not. >> unusual if measles outbreaks every year. >> so the idea that. >> this is not unusual and we have measles outbreaks every year, it's important to note that measles was declared eliminated from this country in the year 2000, 25 years ago, because we have an incredibly safe and effective vaccine that's 97% effective essentially over a lifetime against measles. so we've seen cases really plummet since that vaccine became available.

unfortunately, as vaccination rates fall, especially in some pockets of the country where they're especially low, we do start to see measles come back. and so in gaines county, the epicenter of this outbreak in texas, the mmr, measles, mumps, rubella vaccination rates about 82%. measles is so contagious. public health experts say we need to keep that higher than 95% in order to provide herd immunity, guys. and of course, this is the first death from measles in a decade. so the size of the outbreak, the fact that a child has died do make this unusual. >> yeah. it's horrible. and the secretary also made an incorrect claim. meg. uh, downplaying why patients are being hospitalized. >> yeah, we know that at least 18 patients have been hospitalized in west texas. all of them unvaccinated. here's how the secretary characterized why many of them are being hospitalized and immediately following. we'll hear from how the hospital folks in texas are saying what's actually

happening? >> we're watching it, and there are about 20 people hospitalized, mainly for quarantine. >> we don't hospitalize patients for for quarantine purposes. quarantine is not something that would happen in a health care facility. we admit patients who need acute supportive treatment in our hospital. >> so measles is a respiratory virus. its complications can include pneumonia. many of these patients, they said, require oxygen support. that's why they're in the hospital. guys. >> meg tirrell, thank you so much for clarifying that for us. we want to discuss further with doctor f perry wilson, who is an associate professor of medicine and public health at yale university school of medicine. doctor, thanks so much for sharing part of your afternoon with us. what do you make of these claims from secretary kennedy that measles outbreaks are not. unusual? >> yeah, i mean, the fact of the matter is that this particular outbreak alone is of larger size than the typical sum of all

measles outbreaks in a given year in the united states since, uh, since 2000, when it was declared eliminated. you see about 100 cases per year on average. some years you do see more, um, throughout the u.s., primarily, these are cases that are brought in by travelers from other countries where vaccination rates are even lower or nonexistent. what we're seeing is, you know, this ongoing outbreak in texas and given the infectivity of measles, you know, we should certainly be concerned that there could be more spread. >> and, doctor wilson, how are you looking at just this terrible tragedy, the death of a school aged child, the first measles death in the u.s. since 2015. >> i think i lost your audio. >> now, doctor wilson, can you hear us? >> yep. >> yeah. okay, good. i was saying, how how are you looking at this? what is just so horrible to lose a school aged child. and it's the first time

we've seen a measles death in the u.s. since 2015. >> it's incredibly tragic. i mean, we we have failed this child. children should not die of vaccine preventable illnesses. that's on all of us. um, i grieve for them. i grieve for their family. uh, but it's an unnecessary thing to happen. >> doctor, how far do you think that this particular outbreak could spread? >> well, i'm fairly concerned. um, measles is the most infectious virus that can infect humans. it's more infectious than hiv, than covid, than the flu. that's why to achieve herd immunity, you need very broad vaccination coverage, because it's so infectious that any unvaccinated person who kind of is within a whiff of measles can get infected very easily. given the low ish and declining rates of vaccination for measles across the country, um, outbreaks like this are that

much harder to stop. so hopefully people are adequately isolating themselves. symptoms are being reported rapidly and we can get a hold on this. but the environment is not very good for this. and measles is just the worst virus. uh, for, for transmission in this setting. >> how far could this spread, doctor wilson? >> well, you know, you need about 90% plus vaccination coverage to achieve herd immunity for measles. that's dramatically higher than most other viruses. um, we are, you know, around the country, we see vaccination rates for measles, mumps and rubella on average south of that. and so the potential to spread is large. the proportion of the population that is vaccinated will slow the spread, because that is a dead end host to those those people do not continue to transmit. um, so so we just have to hope that we get lucky here, 100, you know, 150 cases is feasible to

get your get your public health officials around and be monitoring appropriately and hopefully stop transmission. but i mean, to be honest, my i'm worried that in the next especially if we're going to start increasing exemptions for childhood vaccinations, it may be inevitable that measles reemerges and has to be declared no longer eliminated in the united states. >> yeah. hoping to get lucky is certainly not a public health strategy. i think we all know that. doctor f perry wilson, thank you so much. we appreciate you. >> sure. >> next, some new court filings revealing the pentagon plans to kick out transgender troops, with one exception. we'll have what that is next. >> and. >> with flonase, allergies. >> don't have to be scary. >> spraying flonase daily gives you long lasting non-drowsy

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transition to stay in the military, to stay as service members. this does not allow that. and further, it says that unscheduled, scheduled or planned procedures related to gender dysphoria or related to transgender service members are effectively canceled. the one exception is listed here. if there is, quote, a compelling government interest that directly supports war fighting capabilities, then they may be allowed to stay. it's unclear how many of those exemptions or exceptions will be granted. the policy also says the individual that the individual is willing to to adhere to all standards, quote, associated with the applicant's sex, regardless of the listed exception there. the intent here is clear. transgender service members are not welcome in the in the military any longer here. as to the question of how many are there within the military, that is a much more difficult number to pin down the estimate back in 2018 is that there were 14,000 transgender service members. >> and does this mean basically

that those who have completed the transition process can stay? >> unclear. there is a line here in the memo, but it appears to be contradicted. it says a service member will be able to be retained if they demonstrate, quote, 36 consecutive months of stability in their sex, with no clinically significant distress or impairment. but the memo also says they need to prove they've never attempted to transition. clearly, transgender service members have attempted to transition in many of the cases here, and that means that even those who have completed the transition and shown stability for 36 months. not clear that they're welcome in the military any longer. >> oren liebermann, live for us at the pentagon. thank you so much for the update. we could be seeing signs of cracks starting to show in the strong jobs market, because last week there was suddenly a lot more people filing for unemployment. so do doge cuts have something to do

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>> and matt, president trump isn't backing down from his tariff threats for canada and mexico. he now says he's actually going to double tariffs on goods from china. an additional 10%. do we know when that would start? >> well, it would start on tuesday if it happens. there is a history, of course, of the president threatening tariffs and then backing down at the last moment, except for when he actually puts them into place like he did with china. so the threat here is that it would be a 25% tariff on canada, 25% on mexico, and up to from 10% to 20% on china. now, this is a big deal because these are the three biggest trading partners to the united states. mainstream economists have consistently warned that tariffs are going to cause higher prices. and look, we get a lot of goods from those three countries that canada is the biggest source of foreign crude into the united states. we get a lot of food, in particular tomatoes and avocados from

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