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and self-described misogynist facing rape charges in romania, is back in the u.s. we're officials pressured into letting him leave. plus, a key meeting at the fda canceled flu vaccine experts scheduled to meet to choose next year's flu shot. we are following these major developing stories and many more, all coming in right here to cnn news central. >> we are following a ton of breaking news this afternoon. thank you so much for joining us on boris sanchez alongside brianna keilar in washington, d.c. and just moments ago, cnn obtained a911 call from the moment the bodies of actor gene hackman and his wife were discovered inside their new mexico home. listen to this. >> santa fe 911. what is your emergency? >> hello, my name is. i'm the
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caretaker for santa fe summit. i'm here at my past 10,008. i think we just found two. a one deceased person inside the house. here. there's no address. there's no address. i'm going to wait for you at the gate. >> are they moving at all? >> no, they're not moving. just send somebody out here really quick. >> okay. my units are on their way. okay. >> investigators say the circumstances surrounding their deaths are, quote, suspicious enough in nature to require a thorough search and investigation. let's go straight to cnn's elizabeth wagmeister. elizabeth. talk to us a little bit about this call. >> so this call, you hear a individual who says that he is a caretaker for the residence where gene hackman and his wife lived in santa fe, new mexico, clearly sounding very panicked and wanting to get someone over to that home immediately. they said later in the call that they could see inside the house, but from the outside, through a
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window, what appeared to be two bodies that were not moving. now our team has also obtained a search warrant, and in that search warrant, authorities had said that it was maintenance workers who first found the body. so again, these details coming into clearer picture here, but still so many questions with this very mysterious situation. in fact, per this search warrant, authorities have said that the circumstances surrounding the death of gene hackman and his wife are so suspicious that it requires a thorough investigation. so this investigation still is ongoing, but some new details that we are learning. a gas company was assisting in the investigation, but now authorities saying there were no visible signs of a carbon monoxide leak or poisoning. gene hackman's wife was found in the bathroom and there was a bottle of prescription pills nearby. and of course, their dog was was also found deceased. so really disturbing details and a tragic death for one of hollywood's
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biggest legends. although he did turn 95 last month. so an incredible life and illustrious career. but i want to show you a clip of gene hackman talking to cnn's larry king years ago, and he said that he actually never considered himself to be a big star. >> are you a star? you've won a supporting and the main actor roles. you're as well known as any film actor. your name goes above the title, but are you a star? >> no. you know, warren beatty is a star. you know, robert redford is a star. brad pitt. i never think of myself that way. >> now, he also said that he does not like to watch himself on screen, but i think that brad pitt and all those other names would say that he is a huge
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star. >> yeah, certainly millions enjoyed watching him on screen and he was a recipient of two oscars. elizabeth, with the oscars coming this weekend. he's likely going to be honored. >> no. he is, and i have some brand new reporting. i just heard from a source very close to the planning of this weekend's oscars ceremony that he will, in fact, be honored. nothing is locked yet. the plans are still underway. but one scenario is that the in memoriam montage will be edited to include gene hackman. another scenario is that he is mentioned on stage, whether that's by host conan o'brien or another presenter or entertainer who takes the stage. but speaking of those two oscars, that he did win, one of his oscars came from clint eastwood, and we got a statement from him. i know we are out of time, but he said there was no finer actor than gene, and he said he was also a dear friend whom i will miss very much.
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>> elizabeth wagmeister, thank you so much for the reporting. we are still standing by for breaking news to come out of the white house. >> that's right, president trump and british prime minister keir starmer will be holding a joint press conference soon. there, the u.k. leader here for crucial talks on ukraine is hoping to get a clear american commitment to ukrainian security as part of any peace deal with russia. >> today's oval office sitdown could set the stage for ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy, who will hold his own talks at the white house with donald trump tomorrow, potentially signing off on a deal that would give the u.s. access to his country's valuable natural resources. some rare earth minerals, though some key questions remain. cnn's jeff zeleny is live for us at the white house. jeff, what are we anticipating from this press conference between starmer and trump? >> well, look, there are many more questions that actually came out of the discussion just a couple hours ago in the oval office between the american president and the british prime
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minister. first and foremost, donald trump saying he trusts vladimir putin to do a ukraine peace deal using the word trust and sort of a dose of credulity as well, that he believes that vladimir putin would not violate any security deal. that simply defies history. and perhaps some would even say logic. but there certainly are many questions on that front about this security arrangement. the european allies, starting on monday with the french president and now the british prime minister, trying to get the american president to back them up, if you will, and offer some type of security reassurance. so the exchange that we're seeing there on the right hand side of the screen, that was followed by a meeting and then a lunch, which they are still in, i'm told. but the questions here surrounding all of this are about what the u.s. will do in terms of a holding vladimir putin's feet to the fire, getting any, uh, type of
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concessions from him or what that deal will look like tomorrow. so certainly many, many questions here on the table once they start taking them. but at the end of all of this, this special relationship between the u.k. and the u.s. still holds, but it's shaky on the grounds of ukraine. there's no question. >> yeah. jeff zeleny live for us at the white house. thank you. the trump administration is taking another big step in its plans to conduct mass layoffs of federal workers. circulating a memo to agency leaders telling them to prepare for a significant reduction in the federal workforce over the next couple of months. >> it comes as supreme court chief justice john roberts temporarily paused the district court's order that would have forced the trump administration to release $2 billion in frozen foreign aid. we're joined now by cnn's rené marsh. let's start with trump's plan to shrink the federal workforce even further. how deep do we think these cuts are going to go? >> well, this is the second wave of these mass firings, and we are expecting deep cuts at
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agencies, wiping out entire divisions of the workforce, not considered essential. so this will very much feel like an escalation from the cuts that we have already seen. a source describing the cuts at his agency to me as pretty brutal. yesterday, opm instructed agencies to submit lists of divisions and employees who are not considered essential during government shutdowns and for the divisions that are considered essential. agencies have been told to come up with a plan to reduce their staff, all in preparation for these large scale terminations of federal workers. and that memo says, and i'm quoting, agencies should focus on the maximum elimination of functions that are not statutorily mandated. and in a nod to just like how dramatic these cuts will be, opm has also asked agencies to come up with talking points and strong arguments to convince congress to agree with this major
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restructuring effort that they're proposing. because keep in mind, these are federal employees who are doing work that congress has approved funding for. now, the deadline for the agencies to submit these plans for phase one of these large, wide scale layoffs is just roughly just under two weeks from now. >> and, renee, now that the supreme court has temporarily paused in order for the trump administration to pay $2 billion in foreign aid by midnight last night, what does that mean for repayment for humanitarian work that's already been done? >> so this is a temporary win for the trump administration. um, which, by the way, said that it could not logistically make the payments by that deadline to u.s., usaid, the state department, contractors and nonprofits for the foreign aid work that they had already completed. at issue is billions of dollars in foreign aid payments that were frozen as the
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administration tried to review and also cut spending that the president doesn't agree with. now, a biden appointed district judge had ordered the administration to make good on the payments that they owe for humanitarian and foreign aid work that had already been completed. but the underlying legal issues for this case have not yet been sorted out. we should just look at this as a pause. the administration does not need to make the payments right now. while the court reviews the arguments in the case to determine if this deadline for repayment should be extended or lifted altogether. of course, this is all happening as employees are showing up to the usaid headquarters today to essentially retrieve all of their belongings. uh, and this is also happening, as the administration said in court filings, that it would be cutting some 90% of the agency's grants and contracts. so lots happening there. but again, just a temporary win for
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the administration with this scotus ruling. back to you guys. >> all right, renee, thank you for that. and still to come, the fda canceling without explanation a key meeting to choose next year's flu vaccine. the impact this move could have on next winter's flu shots. >> amid upheaval and sweeping changes. >> the president. >> of the united states. >> trump, heads to capitol hill to share what's next. follow cnn for complete coverage and in-depth analysis. the presidential address to congress tuesday at eight on cnn. >> tap into etsy for home and style staples to help you set any vibe. from custom lighting under $150 to vintage jackets under 100 for affordable pieces to help you make a fresh start. etsy has it. >> can to riva support your brain health. >> mary. janet. hey. >> edie. no! frasier. frank. frank. fred, how are you? fred. >> support up to seven brain health indicators, including
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secretary of health and human services, robert f kennedy jr.. we want to discuss with doctor paul offit. he's a member of the fda vaccine advisory committee. he's also a pediatrician and director of the vaccine education center at children's hospital of philadelphia. doctor offit, thanks so much for being with us. you were supposed to be part of this meeting. i want to understand its purpose. and whether you got clarity on whether it was postponed or canceled altogether, is that clear? >> well, the purpose. >> is that we meet every march to pick flu strains for the coming year. it's a six month production cycle, and that then allows the companies to make vaccines by september, which is when they roll out. when we meet, we get presentations from the department of defense, the cdc, the world health organization, and we look at how these viruses are moving sort of across the world. usually countries whose winters precede ours predict what strains we are likely to see in our country. but they canceled the meeting. the fda has decided, or i don't
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know who decided, that the that now the fda will make its decision without its advisory committee. now the advisory committee is a committee of experts that are independent of the government, independent of the pharmaceutical companies. and when we have these meetings, they are frank, open, lively discussions which the public can watch. and it's good because then you can see sort of the thinking about how strong the science is behind a particular policy. but now apparently it's going to happen behind closed doors, which is ironic, since robert f kennedy jr. talks endlessly about how he wants transparency, and now it seems like things are going behind a curtain. >> do they provide any details for their reasoning behind having this meeting behind closed doors? >> i don't know who made the decision or why the decision was made. none of that information was transmitted to us. >> what could be the impact here? how are the manufacturers that make these vaccines reacting? >> you'd have to ask them, but
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i don't think there's going to be much of an impact. i think what will probably happen is that the fda internally will look at the same data we usually look at as a, as a group, and they will then pick strains that the the manufacturers will pick up and make vaccines as they normally make it. so i think i don't think the public should worry that this means that in any way, the influenza vaccines would be less effective or less safe. >> but if that means that there's less transparency, then i wonder how you discern why they would elect to do this privately. do you think that this is in any way tied to rfk jr.'s previous statements about vaccines? >> well, you worry that there's been a gradual dissolution of key elements of the public health program. so the advisory committee for immunization practices, which advises the cdc, also had a meeting that was canceled. this meeting was canceled. and, you know, one of the things we do at this meeting that's important is, um, we do sort of a postmortem on what happened last year. did we pick the right strains last year
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because this current epidemic of influenza has been pretty severe, more than 800,000 hospitalizations. there's been obviously millions of cases and at least 13,000 deaths, which is a pretty tough year. did we pick the wrong strains and if so, why? what data did we look at that perhaps caused us to pick the wrong strains, and that's all open to the public. and i think that lack of transparency doesn't serve the public well. >> to that point you're making, there are two major influenza strains circulating this year at roughly the same rate. there was some preliminary testing that suggested that the flu vaccine for this season may be better matched to one strain than the other. can you talk about why that might be and ultimately what the impact is? >> well, so flu is hard. i mean, it's a moving target. and and often what is true is that if you've been immunized or naturally infected the year before, that doesn't mean that you're going to be protected the following year, which is why we have a yearly flu vaccine. but what's also true is that the flu virus can mutate even during a season away from that
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vaccine. so, um, i actually trained in an influenza lab at the wistar institute many years ago, and the head of that lab once said something to me, i'll never forget. he said, if you want a research career that lasts the rest of your life, study influenza. >> mm. >> uh, i do want to switch gears and ask you about steps to mitigate the spread of avian flu, of bird flu. agriculture secretary rollins outlined a new strategy to do that. and also to lower the price of eggs. and it includes $500 million to enhance biosecurity measures to keep the virus off of farms. how could that money be used effectively? >> right. i think what europe does is they offer a vaccine to people who work in high risk industries, like the poultry industry or the dairy industry or the fur industry. i think what you don't want to have happen is you don't want this virus to become adapted to grow in the human upper respiratory tract, nose, throat, uh, windpipe, because then it's going to be transmitted from person to person easily, which
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it's not now. i mean, it is not yet a human pandemic and may never become a human pandemic, but what you want to do is limit human exposure as much as possible, to limit the chance that that mutational event that would allow the virus to grow in the upper respiratory tract doesn't happen. and so i think anything that mitigates against that happening is obviously important. >> doctor paul offit appreciate the expertise. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> when we come back, we're going to take a closer look at kash patel first week as head of the fbi as he plans to renovate the bureau, and also apparently his carpet and the drapes. we'll be right back. >> united states of scandal with jake tapper returns sunday, march 9th on cnn. >> can the air support your brain health? >> mary. janet. hey. >> eddie. no. frazier. frank. frank. fred, how are you? fred. >> support up to seven brain health indicators, including memory. when you need to
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>> smart. >> got it, got it. boss. otter, you got. >> this. >> see you. saved. you. >> and we are awaiting a press conference with president trump and the uk prime minister, keir starmer. so we're keeping our eye on that. that should be starting soon. and we'll bring it to you as soon as it does begin. at this critical time. obviously, as the president is trying to broker a deal to end the war in ukraine. in the meantime, week one is done for fbi director kash patel a week marked by internal upheaval as he set out to overhaul the bureau in ways that could drastically realign both the workforce and the scope of the fbi's mission. another focus redecorating what patel called his dingy office. >> cnn's evan perez is here with the details. evan, what are
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you hearing about his first days in the job? >> well, look, i mean, there's been a lot of upheaval. part of the job that patel wants to do here is to realign the fbi to send a lot more of its workforce from outside of the washington, dc area, from headquarters to send them out. his whole mantra has been, let them go out and be cops. right. and that's, of course, a lot more complicated. uh, one of the things that he outlined to to in meetings with, with, with senior leaders is that he wants as many as 1500 employees to be sent out, and he asked for some of them to start getting moving by tomorrow. that was the deadline he gave. that's a little unworkable, according to the some of the people in those meetings. and they told him that. but he wants to move very, very quickly. and one of the things that happened in the last few days, aside from changing out the carpeting inside the office and new new drapes, new window treatments, is, you know, he has worked with, uh, with some of the people behind the scenes to try to get those people out of dc. >> evan, so sorry to interrupt. let's go straight to the white
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house and listen in to this press conference between president donald trump and uk prime minister keir starmer. >> honor. >> today. >> it's my privilege to. >> welcome the prime minister of a very special place, the united kingdom, to the white house, the prime minister. starmer, you have been terrific in our discussions. you're a very tough negotiator. however, i'm not sure i like that. but that's okay. very, very special person. the prime minister and i have gotten off to an outstanding start. the u.s. and u.k. have a special relationship. very special. really, like no other. passed down through the centuries. and we're going to keep it that way. we're going to keep it very strong as it is. and very importantly, i was just notified by letter from king charles that he's extended through the prime minister, a historic second state visit to the united kingdom. and that's a
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great honor because it's never happened before. one person has never, uh, been extended that honor. and i really do call it an honor, but it's not for me. it's for our country. it's respect for our country. so i just want to thank you. and i want to thank king charles. thank you very much. and we accept i don't know if the media is going to follow us. i have a feeling they might. okay. thank you very much. appreciate it. i'm pleased to say that the bust of one of the prime minister's greatest predecessors, winston churchill, is now back in the rightful place in the oval office, and we're very proud of it. our meeting today and the various breakout sessions we had were tremendously productive. most importantly, i provided the prime minister with an update on our efforts to end the bloody and horrible war in ukraine with russia, which would never have happened if i were president. that was not going to happen, i promise you that after three
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years of hellacious conflict, approximately 1 million ukrainians and russians have been senselessly killed. but the number, i believe, is much higher than that. countless schools, hospitals, towns and beautiful ancient churches have been absolutely obliterated to begin the process of ending this spiral of death. i had historic back to back calls with president putin, very successful calls, i might add, and president zelenskyy and my team also spoke with the secretary general of nato and numerous occasions, and we're working very hard to get that war brought to an end. i think we've made a lot of progress. i think it's moving along pretty rapidly, and i want to thank all of the people that are here that have been working on it, and we'll let you know what's what happens. it will either be fairly soon or it won't be at all. in addition, this week i
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met with president macron of france, as you know, and held talks with members of the g7. tomorrow, the progress toward peace will continue when president zelenskyy visits the white house. he'll be here tomorrow in the early part of the day, and we'll be signing a historic agreement that will make the united states a major partner in developing ukraine's minerals and rare earths and oil and gases, and we have a great understanding. i think it's going to be great for ukraine. we're going to be at the site and we'll be, uh, we'll be digging. we'll be dig, dig, dig, dig. we must a big utility in new york, con edison. they used to have a sand dig. we must. and we will be digging. but much of the european aid to ukraine has been sent in the form of loans for which they expect to be paid back, and we didn't have that honor under the biden administration. he
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sent money or just send it money after money after money and never had any, any knowledge of ever seeing it back, maybe 300 to $350 billion. but under the breakthrough agreement, very unusual, which everyone said was difficult to get. but it's really very good for ukraine and very good for us, the american taxpayers will now effectively be reimbursed for the money and hundreds of billions of dollars poured into helping ukraine defend itself, which by and of itself is a very worthy thing to do. we've paid far more than any other country, and with most of our support, it's been paid in military, the finest weapons anywhere in the world. this includes vast amounts of military hardware, ammunition, and various other things that we now have to start rebuilding our own stockpiles. additionally, the minerals agreement will provide the basis for a more
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sustainable future relationship between the united states and ukraine and thus stimulate the long term prosperity that will help the ukrainians rebuild their country. it's been demolished and the ruined infrastructure, the infrastructure, as you know, is in very bad shape in just over one month, our administration has already achieved more progress toward peace than years in the other administration, where they did nothing toward peace. they didn't understand what was happening. our approach is basically common sense. as i said, so many of the things that we do are based on common sense. if you want peace, you have to talk both sides. as i discussed with prime minister starmer, the next step we're making is toward a very achievable cease fire. we hope that that can happen quickly because.
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thousands of young people in this case, we're not talking about americans, we're talking about ukrainians and russians are being killed every week. thousands. and it's a rough battlefield. it's a flat piece of land, and the bullet only stops when it hits somebody. and this week i saw the reports and it's it's i don't even want to say what what they are, but thousands of people, young people, young, vibrant people died. and we want to stop that senseless should have never happened. this will lay the groundwork for a long term peace agreement that will return stability to eastern europe and hopefully ensure that such a terrible war will never happen on european soil or for that matter, anywhere. again, it's, uh, it's a horrible thing that's going on. the disaster in ukraine shows exactly why it's so important for the united kingdom and other nato partners to make large investments in their defense capabilities. in many cases, 4%
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or 5% of gdp would be appropriate. i know that they're raising it. i just read an article, a great article about the work you're doing in the uk. as to the military, you're raising it quite a bit, which is a great thing to do for your country. it's a great thing to do. it's sad that we need that, but probably need that. so congratulations on that. i know you got it through. after years of chronic underfunding, there's an urgent need to catch up for some countries. and i want to thank the prime minister once again for traveling here today, working together. i believe that we will once again demonstrate the power of our country's unique friendship. this is indeed a unique friendship. it's been many years, and i think it's only gotten stronger. and we will make sure that it stays that way. we're going to have a great trade agreement one way or the other. we're going to end up with a very good trade agreement for both countries,
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and we're working on that as we speak. i think we'll have the confines. i think we'll have something maybe even in terms of possibilities, agreed to very shortly. jdi is working on a vice president, and scott, and i'm just looking at this all from mike. you're going to work on it. everyone's going to work on it. we'll see if we can do something pretty quickly, but we're going to make some great trade agreements with the uk and with the prime minister, and it will happen very quickly. so i just want to thank you again and please thank king charles for the invite and look forward to your giving our acceptance on behalf of the united states of america. thank you very much, sir. >> thank you. great. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> well, thank. >> you very much, mr. president. >> thank you for your hospitality. thank you for your leadership. this has been a very good and very productive visit. and with your family. >> roots in. >> scotland and your close bond
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with his majesty the king, it's good. >> to know. >> that the united kingdom has a true friend in the oval office. and it was so good to see the bust of winston churchill back in its rightful place. just a moment ago. but look, in a moment of real danger. >> around the. >> world, the relationship. this relationship matters more than ever. we remain each other's first partner in defense, ready to come to the other's aid to counter threats wherever and whenever they may arise. no two militaries are more intertwined than ours. no two countries have done more together to keep people safe. and in a few weeks, we mark ve day, the 80th anniversary of victory in europe. britain and america fought side by side to make that happen. one of the greatest moments in our history. we stand side by side still today, and we're focused now on bringing an enduring end to the barbaric
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war in ukraine. mr. president, i welcome your deep and personal commitment to bring peace and to stop the killing. you've created a moment of tremendous opportunity to reach a historic peace deal, a deal that i think would be celebrated in ukraine and around the world. that is the prize. but we have to get it right. there's a famous slogan in the united kingdom from after the second world war, that is, that we have to win the peace, and that is what we must do now, because it can't be peace that rewards the aggressor, or that gives encouragement to regimes like iran. we agree history must be on the side of the peacemaker, not the invader. so the stakes, they couldn't be higher and we're determined to work together to deliver a good deal. we've discussed a plan today to reach a peace that is
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tough and fair, that ukraine will help shape, that's backed by strength to stop putin coming back for more, i'm working closely with other european leaders on this, and i am clear that the uk is ready to put boots on the ground and planes in the air to support a deal, working together with our allies, because that is the only way that peace will last. mr. president, in this new era, you're also right that europe must step up. and let me tell you now, i see the growing threats we face. and so the uk is all in. this year will be giving more military aid to ukraine than ever. and just this week, i have set out how we're shouldering more of the security burden. we're already one of the biggest spenders in nato, and now we're going much further, delivering britain's biggest sustained increase in defense spending since the cold war. this isn't just talk, it's
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action. rebalancing the transatlantic alliance, making us all stronger and standing up for our shared values and shared security, as britain always has. mr. president, it's no secret we're from different political traditions, but there's a lot that we have in common, and we believe it's not taking part that counts. what counts is winning. if you don't win, you don't deliver. and we're determined to deliver for the working people of britain and america who want and deserve to see their lives improve. so we're both in a hurry to get things done. and that's what the uk and u.s. do when we work together, we win and we get things done. so we'll do what it takes to keep our people safe. we'll also work together to deliver some big economic
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wins that can benefit us both. we have a $1.5 trillion invested in each other's economies, creating over 2.5 million jobs across both economies. our trading relationship is not just strong, it's fair, balanced and reciprocal. we're leaders together in so many areas, ranked one and two in the world as investment destinations, one and two for universities, one and two for nobel prizes, one and two in golf as well. by the way, and we're the only two western countries with trillion dollar tech sectors. leaders in a.i. and look, we take a similar approach on this issue. instead of overregulating, these new technologies, we're seizing the opportunities that they offer. so we've decided today to go further, to begin work on a new economic deal with advanced technology at its core. look, our two nations together shaped
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the great technological innovations of the last century. we have a chance now to do the same for the 21st century. i mean, artificial intelligence could cure cancer. that could be a moonshot for our age. um, and that's how we'll keep delivering for our people. there are so many opportunities to keep our nation strong and fulfill the promise of greatness that has always defined this relationship. finally, to undermine, to underline the importance of this bond. it was my privilege and honor to bring a letter with me today from his majesty the king. not only sending his best wishes, but also inviting the president and the first lady to make a state visit to the united kingdom. an unprecedented second state visit. this has never happened before. it's so incredible. it
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will be historic, and i'm delighted that i can go back to his majesty the king and tell him that president trump has accepted the invitation. so thank you. our teams will now work together to set a date, and we look forward to welcoming you in the united kingdom. thank you once again. >> thank you very much. what a beautiful. accent. >> yeah. >> i would have been president 20 years ago if i had that accent. >> thank you so much. thank you. >> thank you. >> think about your questions. >> okay, let's see here. go ahead please. >> thank you, mr. president. earlier today, you told me that you believe that foreign countries pay tariffs. but americans who are concerned about higher prices believe, as most people do, that they're paid by consumers and importers when they import things into this country. can you explain how you came to this belief that foreign governments are paying
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tariffs? and for the prime minister, did you discuss with president trump his repeated statements of desire to annex canada? and has the king expressed any concern over the president's apparent desire to remove one of his realms from his control? >> so i'll go ahead to the first part. the tariffs are necessary because we've been treated very unfairly by many, many countries, including our friends, friend and foe. but we've been treated very unfairly in trade and at levels that nobody has really ever seen before, and especially under the biden administration. they really took advantage of the united states. uh, i put massive tariffs on china during my four years. we had the best economy in the history of our country, probably the best economy, maybe the best economy in the history of the world. and i had i used
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tariffs to even things up. and in particular with china, we took in hundreds of billions of dollars and we had no inflation. and it's a myth. it's a myth that's put out there by foreign countries that really don't like paying tariffs. and especially to even up. so we've been treated badly by a lot. we're using tariffs. and i find and you just have to look at the numbers. but i find that it's not about inflation. it's about fairness and the inflation uh for us has not existed. and i don't think it's going to exist. we're going to bring our car industry back. we're going to bring our chips back. we're going to bring so many things back to our country, including pharmaceuticals and drugs. and the thing that's going to get us there is tariffs. and i say often it's my favorite word in the dictionary. but i always preface it by saying now because i got into a lot of trouble with the fake news where they say that's not good. so i say, god, love family, wife. they're all
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my favorite words. but tariff is about number 4 or 5 on the list. but i will tell you, it's going to make our country rich and it's going to stop us from being a laughing stock all over the world because we have been taken advantage of like no country has ever been taken advantage of. thank you very much. >> and look, we had a really good discussion, a productive discussion, a good discussion, as a result of which our teams are now going to be working together on an economic deal. our team is going to be working together on security in ukraine. you mentioned canada. i think you're trying to find a divide between us that doesn't exist. we're the closest of nations, and we had very good discussions today, but we didn't. that's enough. canada. >> thank you. please go ahead. go ahead. yes. thank you. thank you. >> hi. >> hi. natasha clark from abc. >> mr. president, you said you're working on a. >> trade deal with. >> britain, which we, of course, welcome. president obama once said britain was at the back of
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the queue for that trade deal. where are we now? when do you think we'll. we're going to see that. and prime minister, the bbc has today admitted serious flaws over the recent gaza coverage, suggestions of payments made to people linked to hamas. does the bbc, bbc still have your trust? thank you. >> well, they didn't do well with president obama. he never got a lot of things done and he didn't get a trade deal done that was of any importance or magnitude. we have we've had great discussions on trade, and i think we're going to have a deal done rather quickly, as quickly as it can be done. we're going to have something, i think, rather quickly. we expect to do that. okay. >> please. on the bbc. look, i've been concerned about the program in question. the secretary of state had a meeting with the bbc. i think it was yesterday. could have been the day before. thank you. >> jeff. go ahead. >> thank you sir. >> pardon me. mr. president. >> do you support. >> article five. >> of the nato treaty? and are you concerned that it might be triggered if european
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peacekeeping forces end up in ukraine? >> i support it. uh, i don't think we're going to have any reason for it. i think we're going to have a very successful peace. and i think it's going to be a long lasting peace. and i think it's going to happen hopefully quickly. if it doesn't happen quickly, it may not happen at all. and we want it for two reasons. number one, i want to see on a humane basis, i want to see soldiers stop getting shot because largely it's soldiers now. towns have been obliterated. but it's largely that. and i don't want to pay billions and billions and billions of dollars, nor does the prime minister or anybody else on a senseless war. that should have never happened, and we're going to get it taken care of. but i think it's going to be a peace that's going to be long lasting. do you have a question for the prime minister? >> thank you, mr. prime minister. you were asking the president today about a backstop for europe. if the peacekeeping force ends up in ukraine. did you feel like you got a
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satisfying answer for yourself and for europe? and mr. president, if you want to comment on that as well, please do. >> i thought we had a very productive discussion, obviously, as the president says, the deal has to come first. um, but yes, our teams are going to be talking about, um, how we make sure that deal sticks is lasting. um, and enforced. so our teams will be talking about that. >> okay. please. blue. >> mr. president. >> um, some experts think it could take more than a decade to mine the precious minerals from ukraine. how much should the u.s. expect to receive? and when do you expect to see that come to fruition? >> well, we're never going to know that answer. but by our being in ukraine and doing the exploration and also the digging and taking the rare earth which we need in our country very badly, uh, we'll be doing a substantial amount of work,
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probably about at least what we have in there. and we hope to be able to do that. uh, you never know when it comes to that, you know, you dig? and maybe things aren't there like, you think they're there, but we'll be spending a lot of time there. it will be great for ukraine. it's like a huge economic development project. so it will be good for both countries. okay. um, please. >> um, uh, prime. >> minister. >> excuse me. >> uh, prime. >> minister, um. you've talked about. >> putting british soldiers boots on the ground in ukraine. in the event that president trump succeeds with his peace deal. but can you. >> do that. >> without a firm assurance that america will have our back in the form of some kind of security guarantee, were putin to breach that agreement? and, mr. president, um, tomorrow you're seeing president zelenskyy to sign this deal on minerals and energy. that could be hugely important to the
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united states. will you take the opportunity to apologize to him for calling him a dictator while praising vladimir putin, who is a dictator? >> well, robert, let me start by saying i've been really clear today and previously that i think that european countries, including the united kingdom, need to step up in our own defense and security. we have been doing that in recent days. you saw the announcement we made on spending, um, just the other day. in addition to that, i've made it clear that the united kingdom will play its full part in ensuring that if there is a deal and we hope there is a deal in ukraine, that that is a lasting deal, um, that sticks and we're obviously working with other european countries on that. france and nato in particular. but we i've got i think i'm hosting 18 countries on sunday to further our discussions. you heard from the
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president this morning, uh, that, you know, has has historically has always been the case. we have each other's backs. and today we've been talking, um, about, um, the deal, um, how that will be a lasting deal. um, and coming out of this, our teams will now be talking in detail about that. >> and i think we're going to have a very good meeting tomorrow, 11:00. and i think we're going to have a very good meeting tomorrow morning. we're going to get along really well. we have a lot of respect. i have a lot of respect for him. uh, we've given him a lot of equipment and a lot of money, but they have fought very bravely. no matter how you figure it, they have really fought. somebody has to use that equipment. and they have been very brave in that sense. please go ahead. >> thank you. sir. >> um. >> so the ceasefire. >> deal is nearing an end this. >> saturday, and there's been some worry that phase two might never get there. do you believe that phase two of the ceasefire in gaza will come to fruition? and have you spoken to netanyahu
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about it? and for the prime minister? um, this peacekeeping deal has been pushed forward by the uk and france as well. have you been in discussions with any other european countries to join this in this initiative? and are you expecting commonwealth countries to also join the effort? thank you. >> so we're working very hard on the middle east and gaza and all of the problems. and it's been going on for years and years and centuries and centuries. it's a it's a tough neighborhood, but it could be a very beautiful neighborhood. and i think we're going to come up with some pretty good solutions. but, uh, phase one is almost complete. uh, we've had some people that have been very seriously injured, very seriously hurt, both physically and mentally. they've come out of there very, very some of them are in very, very bad shape. uh, is shocking. many young people, young people aren't in bad shape. young people are strong, healthy. they don't die. people have come out
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dead young people and old people, uh, it's a rough situation, but i think we're going to make it better. and i think that we've had a huge impact on that since we've been in just the four weeks. i think we've had a huge impact on gaza, the middle east, and we have some pretty good talks going on concerning lots of other people that are going to make it better. so we'll see what happens. nobody really knows, but we'll see what happens. but i think we've had a very positive impact, prime minister. >> on the question of, um, the european countries. yes, i've spoken to a number of countries, um, particularly in the last few weeks. we had a meeting in paris last week. i've got a meeting on sunday with 18 countries. um, to further our discussions. um, obviously we've been talking quite intensely to our french colleagues, um, and to nato, but to other countries as well. um, because as i say, i think it's important for european countries, including the united
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kingdom. um, to step up and do more in the defense and security of europe and our continent, in the united kingdom, and will do so well. we're talking to a number of other countries. >> thank you. yes. in the red, please. pink, red, flaming red. go ahead. >> okay. thank you, mr. president. a question on ukraine. number one is if you're not considering the security guarantees, are you open to other forms of, for example, intelligence cooperation with ukraine? and mr. prime minister, president trump has proposed a plan for gaza. does this fit into the two state solution that the uk held for a long time? do you see it fit into your general middle eastern strategy? thank you so much. >> yeah, thank you very much. we're open to many things. but before i even think about that, that's almost pleasant to think about because that would mean that peace has been arrived at. we have to arrive at that peace.
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and, you know, you went three and a half years with an administration that never even really had a meeting. they didn't have a meeting on peace, and there was no prospect of peace. i think, frankly, russia wanted to go through the whole long deal. i don't think they do anymore. i don't think they do. we had a very big impact on that whole situation. uh, but i don't like talking about phase two until i get phase one. phase one is i have to make peace and we have to get russia to agree. we have to get ukraine to agree. and i think we will. i think we've come a long way. i believe we're going to get it done. i wouldn't say that if i didn't think so. and i think it will be very important, very historic. and we're going to save a lot of a lot of lives. >> um, on the question of gaza, the last few weeks of the ceasefire, um, have been very impactful. and for me, there are
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two images that i remember more than any other. the first is emily demi moore, um, who is british, being reunited with her mother. you may remember she had her fingers missing after what she endured. that was an incredible moment. i had spent a lot of time with her mother whilst she was held captive, and her mother went through absolute torture. the other image was thousands of palestinians marching through rubble, trying to return to their communities and their homes. um, so we have to do everything we can to ensure that the ceasefire continues so that more hostages can be returned, so that aid can be brought in that's desperately needed. um, and we we need to allow palestinians to return and to rebuild their lives. and we must all support them in doing that. and yes, i believe that the two state solution is ultimately the only way for a lasting peace in the region.
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>> and think of that. she came home with her fingers and part of her hand blown off. >> that's terrible. >> uh, how bad does it get? and we had others that came home in much, much worse shape than that. it's a terrible situation. uh, please. yes. >> okay. >> thank you. uh, mr. president, did our prime minister persuade you not to put tariffs on the uk? and if i may, prime minister, do you think that vladimir putin is a man who will keep his word? thanks. >> he tried. he was working hard, i'll tell you that. he he earned whatever the hell they pay him over there. but he tried. we i think there's a very good chance that in the case of these two great, friendly countries, i think we we could very well end up with a real trade deal where the tariffs wouldn't be necessary. uh,
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