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generation has one they love. and now i'm going to share with my kids some of these movies as well. the the right appropriate age ones. harry enten. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> and hey everyone, thank you all for watching. anderson cooper 360 is next. we leave you tonight with another iconic line from one gene hackman from harry's favorite, the replacements. >> i look at you and i see two men. the man. you are, the man you ought to be. someday those two will meet. >> tonight on 360. with america now siding with russia, the u.n., britain's prime minister, comes to washington trying to shore up our
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>> in florida, where governor desantis says they aren't welcome. and breaking news authorities released their first autopsy findings in the shocking death of legendary actor gene hackman and his wife. good evening. that is where we begin tonight. we've got a lot to cover from washington and the trump administration, but there are some late developments in the mysterious deaths of gene hackman and his wife betsy, along with their dog. and for anyone who loved the movies, and especially some of the finest acting this generation, news of gene hackman's death at the age of 95 was certainly not unexpected came as a blow. then came the disturbing details. his wife betsy, who was 65, was also found dead yesterday in their new mexico home. their bodies discovered in different rooms. by some reports, they were partially mummified, indicating they had been dead for some time. an open prescription drug bottle and scattered pills were found in the bathroom near her body on the floor. autopsies were done. toxicology testing was ordered and a full investigation is underway. gene hackman, as you may know, gave up movie making in 2004. seven years later, in 2011, he told gq
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magazine he would make another film, one more movie quote, if i could do it in my own house, maybe. well, that was the house he would die in 14 years later. cnn's josh campbell joins us now from santa fe with more. so what do we know about this investigation? what did what came out of the autopsy? >> well, there's a lot of work for investigators to do, but they did provide at least some information initially on the autopsies. we know that they've been performed on both hackman as well as his wife. they're saying that based on that initial assessment, there's no external trauma that they found. they did indicate that they have ordered carbon monoxide, as well as toxicology testing, which is a standard portion of what the medical examiners usually do. and in order to try to get to that cause of death. you know, anderson, this isn't just a tragedy, but it's also a great mystery right now when you look at all those factors that you just talked about there earlier. this happened yesterday when a call came in to 911. it was a caretaker that found them deceased at their home. authorities arrived. the door was open. it was unsecured. they found no signs of any type of theft. but what they did find
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was a betsy arakawa on the bathroom on the ground near her, where these scattered pills in a closet nearby was a deceased dog. and then in another room, they found hackman himself. and so there's a lot of work going on to try to figure out not only what caused that, but what is the timeline, who may have died first, again, tried to get to what actually happened here. and it's worth pointing out, initially there was a question of was this some type of carbon monoxide exposure because you had, you know, three dead living beings in the same home fire department came in as well as the gas company. initially, they say they found no signs of a gas leak. >> and there was another dog alive in the house. and i understand one on the ground. when will full forensic tests be completed? >> yeah, these can take time. sometimes weeks, sometimes whenever we're talking about these medical examiner investigations, because they have to get it right. they have to go through a lot of testing that's often sent out to other laboratories. and in this case, it's not just the medical examiner, but the sheriff also running their own investigation. what they found at that house when they arrived concerned them so much that they went to a
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judge and said, we want the authority to go search this residence, to try to gather as many clues as we can find in order to try to determine what happened here. >> all right. josh campbell, thank you. we're going to have you back along with jon miller. we're going to have more details on what we know about what happened to gene hackman. we've reached out also to a forensic pathologist to talk about how he and his wife were found, the condition they were in, what that may tell us. we're also going to look back at hackman's extraordinary life on screen. but before that, i want to turn to the big story ahead of tomorrow's white house visit by ukraine's president zelenskyy. today, britain's prime minister met with president trump and with the atlantic alliance under enormous stress over ukraine, he seems to have succeeded in calming some very troubled waters, at least for now. things have certainly been tense lately between washington and the european allies. in just the last few days alone, we've seen the united states side against our traditional allies and side with russia at the un over ukraine's refusing to call russia the aggressor for their invasion. we've heard the president call ukraine's president a dictator, even though he is in, but not say the same about vladimir
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putin, who is. we watch france's emmanuel macron lightly hold the president's arm and gently try to correct his incorrect, his mischaracterization of european support for ukraine. germany's likely next chancellor, openly calling for a divorce of sorts from the united states. >> and the. absolute priority is. >> my absolute priority will be to strengthen europe as quickly as possible so that step by step, we can really achieve independence from the united states. >> but just some of what set the stage for today's white house meeting, where both president trump and prime minister starmer spent much of their joint press conference soothing over differences, not amplifying them. listen to the response to a question about the president's talk of annexing canada. >> you're trying to find a divide between us that doesn't exist. we're the closest of nations, and we had very good discussions today, but we didn't in canada. >> thank you. >> now, here's the president's answer to a reporter asking whether he would apologize to president zelenskyy tomorrow for
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calling him a dictator. >> and i think we're going to have a very good meeting tomorrow, 11:00. and i think we're going to have a very good meeting tomorrow morning. we're going to get along really well. okay. we have a lot of respect. i have a lot of respect for him. uh, we've given him a lot of equipment and a lot of money, but they have fought very bravely. no matter how you figure it, they have really fought. somebody has to use that equipment. and they have been very brave in that sense. >> well, he didn't really answer the question there. instead complimented the man downplaying the rift between the two. and earlier today there was this question and answer as well. >> i still think that mr. zelenskyy is a dictator. um. >> did i say that? i can't believe i said that. next question. >> well, for the most part, throughout his public events today, the president did not take the chances he was offered to re-air familiar grievances with zelenskyy in the allies, whether prime minister starmer or others are responsible for this. unclear. what is clear is that the prime minister clearly tailored his remarks to his
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audience of one. >> we're leaders together in so many areas, ranked one and two in the world as investment destinations, one and two for universities, one and two for nobel prizes, one and two in golf as well. by the way. >> if that weren't enough, mr. starmer had some help from buckingham palace today as well. >> yes. so this is a letter from his majesty the king. um, it's an invitation for a second state visit. this is really special. this has never happened before. and before. unprecedented. um, and i think that just symbolizes the strength of the relationship between us. so this is a very special letter. i think the last state visit was a tremendous success. it was his majesty the king wants to make this even better than that. so this is this is truly historic, an unprecedented second visit. >> joining us now, cnn's kaitlan
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collins, who is at the white house for the proceedings today, really selling that letter there, kind of fascinating. >> it is fascinating because it's always interesting to watch trump's interactions with world leaders, especially ones who don't know him, as well as maybe the french president does, who was here earlier this week, you know, calling him donald. you know, touching his wrist as he was correcting him about the characterization of europe's aid to ukraine. this meeting was fascinating because trump has sat down with the british prime minister during the transition, but this is the first time that they are in the oval office together since trump took office. and and that was one of the first things that the british prime minister did. it had echoes of what the british prime minister, theresa may, did the last time trump was in office, when she invited him and delivered a letter from the queen for a state visit. and obviously, trump is someone who, um, greatly considers the royal family and obviously wants this, but it was certainly messaging anderson in terms of making sure that was the first part of this before they got into the questions from reporters in that sit down. and in that press conference later on about what
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really the british prime minister was coming here to, to secure from president trump. and that was concrete assurances when it comes to security guarantees in ukraine, as they are trying to negotiate a peace deal here, because europe has said and the british prime minister is willing to put british troops on the ground. but what they want is a backstop to know that the u.s. military is there as essentially a backup. should there be more russian aggression on the ground. and he did not get those concrete assurances today, but certainly, as you saw how he answered that question about trump, you know, saying jokingly and seriously that he wants to annex canada what that would look like. he was trying to make sure there was no daylight between him and president trump, as these european leaders are very much trying to to insert themselves and make sure that they are kind of putting guardrails on what this negotiation between russia and ukraine could look like here. >> well, why do you think he, the president, uh, did not repeat the dictator remarks about zelenskyy and sort of moved on from it. >> it was fascinating because he had two opportunities today, a
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day when he was asked about that, that one time in the oval office when he kind of sarcastically said he didn't remember it. and then again at the press conference when a british reporter asked him if he wanted to apologize, he didn't really take that moment to to respond. and, you know, maybe the way that some people expected he would have when it comes to what this looks like. instead, he did not repeat the sentiment. tone that we have been hearing from president trump in any stretch of the imagination over the last several days, where he's called him a dictator without borders. he's criticized him. he's said that his poll numbers are far lower than they actually are, and has just been outright, you know, much more hostile to zelenskyy than he has to putin. it really raises the question of what this is going to look like tomorrow. when we do see president zelenskyy in the oval office, if they do get this. mineral minerals deal finalized and what that looks like. um, and what tone he uses tomorrow when he talks to him, does he use the kind of dictator esque view that he's been saying in
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recent days, or does he say, like he said today, that that he respects him and the ukrainians for, for fighting for the last three years? >> yeah. caitlin. appreciate it. thanks. we'll see you for the source at the top of the next hour. and you're going to be talking to former trump ambassador to the european union, gordon sondland. our guest right now is former trump national security advisor john bolton also served as un ambassador to the in the george w bush administration. ambassador, it's good to have you on. um, what do you make of what we saw today? i mean, i don't know if it's all that complicated, if it's just, you know, whoever's in the room. this is how the president responds to, like, the last person who's in the room or if that letter had an impact. what do you make of his not calling zelenskyy a dictator today? >> well, i think starmer, uh, proceeded in a in a very effective fashion by playing the card of this invitation to a second state visit. after all, did donald trump what is more important than another state visit to visit now the king? so
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it was a good move by starmer. there are other moves. maybe zelenskyy tomorrow will say he's going to offer to nominate trump to be a nobel peace prize winner. that would be a good way to get the meeting off to a start. trump wants meetings like this to be successful. he defines successful as making trump looks good, so he's not going to get in a fight with anybody. the fact is, he had an opportunity to say that he didn't think zelenskyy was a dictator, and he didn't take it. and the way he answered the first question, did i say that? i mean, come on, of course he knows. he said it. and then he said, i can't believe i said that. well, i can't believe he said it either. neither of which comments by him represent a repudiation of the point, if anything, uh, to my way of looking at it, he underlined that he still thinks that. >> i want to play what president trump said today when he was asked if he supports nato's article five, which which obliges members of the alliance to come to each other's defense. >> i support it. uh, i don't think we're going to have any reason for it. i think we're
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going to have a very successful peace. and i think it's going to be a long lasting peace. and, uh, i think it's going to happen hopefully quickly. if it doesn't happen quickly, it may not happen at all. >> i mean, it's kind of remarkable what you said about that letter having an impact and a good way to start off. i mean, if it's as simple as flattery will get you everywhere, that's obviously, uh, you know, i mean, we've seen that in the past, but it's still kind of stunning to see just kind of play out before our eyes. do you think there is any actual change in his thoughts about ukraine? i mean, it seems like a lot of this goes back, and i've heard you say in the past that a lot of his feelings about zelenskyy goes back to that, that, you know, perfect phone conversation he had when he tried to get zelenskyy to open up or at least say he was going to open up some sort of investigation into the biden family. >> look, trump has said many times, including in public, that he thinks if he has good relations with a foreign head of state, then the united states itself has good relations with
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that country. and the converse is also true. personal relations are important, there's no doubt about it. but when you're dealing with somebody like vladimir putin, who is as cold blooded as they come, he knows what he wants, and he's going to try and manipulate trump to get it. trump thinks they're friends. putin thinks he's an easy mark, and i think he's shown that over the past couple of weeks. uh, zelenskyy and trump notwithstanding, zelenskyy's best efforts over the past 4 or 5 months have never had a good relationship. going back to the perfect phone call. so in trump's mind and the way trump looks at the world, putin is way ahead. now we'll see how zelenskyy does tomorrow. it's a very important meeting from his perspective. >> you know. >> the president has been calling for, you know, peace and, you know, getting a ceasefire. i mean, there's everybody wants peace, but there's peace that actually can last and be just. and then there's, you know, a bad peace which can break out into a war again or is just completely
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unjust and rewards russia's aggression. do you have any insight about what peace actually may end up looking like? i mean, do you think the u.s. would backstop a european, quote, unquote, peacekeeping force? and again, how that is defined, it seems a very open ended as well. >> well, i think it's close to a zero chance that trump would do that. that's that's just contrary to everything he's been saying about the u.s. role in europe for a long time. i think there's a lot of loose talk in europe, particularly about how this is going to play out. first thing we're going to have is a ceasefire. i think that's disadvantageous to ukraine. and then the insertion of a peacekeeping force. i think those two together lead almost inevitably to partition. if you if you have a ceasefire and then deploy a peacekeeping force and then start negotiating in geneva or someplace, the negotiations could go on and on and on. and the longer they go on, the more that ceasefire line becomes a de facto border. and even the talk of peacekeepers itself is
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flawed. are they peacekeepers who will fight to enforce the ceasefire, or are they going to be like un observers who watch as people violate the ceasefire and just report back to headquarters? i just think there's a lot of misimpression about about how this is going to turn out, especially because let's be clear, putin has a strategy. he started explaining it to the world in 2005. he basically wants to recreate the russian empire. he's taken one chunk of ukraine in 2014. he's taken another chunk over the last three years. a ceasefire might be advantageous to him to resupply, restock, reequip, retrain his army, but that simply means that the war, the third invasion, could take place in 5 or 6 years. >> john bolton, i appreciate your time tonight. thank you. still to come, more on the investigation at the deaths of gene hackman, his wife. including what? the affidavits. report of mummification of their hands and feet can tell us about how they died or how long ago they may have died. a forensic
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miller, and also doctor judy melinek, a forensic pathologist and author. john, what stands out to you about this? you've seen a lot of crime scenes. >> well, it's it's all that it tells us and all that it refuses to tell us. a lot of questions to answer. but, you know, you have gene hackman, who is in the mudroom off the kitchen by the back door, who appears to have taken a fall. um. >> a cane was found nearby and. >> glasses of sunglasses. it it looks like he fell where he was. and he dropped what he had. um, you have his wife, betsy, in a bathroom on the other side of that floor where there are pills scattered on the counter, and a space heater that's been knocked over. um, and a dog in a kennel or a crate that's also deceased. and you know it. it's the kind of thing where you could say murder suicide, but it doesn't appear to have the trauma that would go with murder. you could say a joint suicide, but those things usually come with somewhat of a ritual where people will take an
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overdose, get in bed together, or hold hands sitting down. um. >> could also have an accident and a suicide. >> you could have an accident. and somebody saying, well, i don't want to live without him, but you have all those possibilities. and as judy will tell us, you know, there's a latin saying in the medical examiner's office that says, you know, this is where the dead come to teach the living. the bodies may tell us more than the scene. it's probably going to have to come together to come to one answer. >> well, doctor melnick, i mean, what does their bodies apparently being partially mummified. how long does that actually take? i guess if it's hands and feet. what does that actually mean? >> the. so the extremities can mummify relatively quickly in a hot ambient environment. it's hard without knowing how warm it was or dry it was in the house, but they've clearly been dead for several days. and i'm saying days, plural. in order to get that kind of mummification. um, one of the ways of figuring this out, obviously, is from the
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scene investigation to find out when did they last pick up the mail? when did they last check in with relatives? phone calls, those kind of things. because people generally will communicate with others during the course of their, uh, time. but then you also can use other guides from the autopsy to determine the time of death, or at least estimate what we call the post mortem interval. >> i don't want to get into too many details, but when the authorities use the term mummification or mummified, does that just mean liquid has. i mean that it's just like skin and bones at that point or what happens? >> it means that the skin has dried. so what's happened is it's wrinkled up and it's dried, and it could be anything from kind of a leathery change all the way to the point that it's so hard that you can't even cut through it easily with a scalpel. so sometimes it just looks a little bit leathery. and that will be called mummified as well. so it still just gives us a ballpark. >> and that.
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>> takes days to know more information about the condition of that can take. oh, definitely. usually takes days. it's not something that happens in hours. it's multiple days, probably even weeks. >> john i mean, the the door was ajar. i guess an. >> exterminator or a caretaker came and and found it that way. alerted the local security. um, there was a dog who was alive in the house. and a dog also the belonged to them. who was outside the house? >> right. but the door being ajar means, um, you know, what judy describes, which is they could have been there ten days or two weeks, meant that the dogs could have had access to come in and out of that doorway. they might have had access to food and to water, whereas the dog that was in the crate, assuming the crate was closed, wouldn't have had that and would have would have passed away during that time. the door being a jar, of course, raises other questions. was someone else inside the house? had someone discovered them before? did they leave the door ajar on purpose? was there some kind of
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gas or carbon monoxide or something that made them think we need air from outside? and they opened the door before they were overcome. so that means they've got to go in every direction. they have to eliminate everything that it could be to find out what it is. some of that will be in the autopsy. um, some of that will be in the advanced stages of the toxicology, which could take 3 or 4 weeks or longer. but a lot of that's going to be what's in their computers. what was in their mindset? were their communications with other normal. did they go to a physician? did somebody get a diagnosis that was very bad that would have influenced that? if one died, the other would go to? there's so many questions to answer right now from a confusing crime scene and for what it lacks. >> yeah. john miller thank you, doctor judy melinek as well. thank you. appreciate it. this sunday is the academy awards. a source tells cnn plans are in motion for the ceremony to pay tribute as certainly as they should to gene hackman, who had a truly extraordinary career. take a look. for generations of american movie fans, gene
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hackman was quite simply unforgettable. >> i order you to place the captain under arrest on the charge of mutiny. >> at the height of his success, he was one of hollywood's biggest stars, delivering a slew of blockbuster. performances. >> here. >> popeye doyle and the french connection. lex luthor and superman. a crooked lawyer in the firm. >> you think i'm talking about breaking the law? >> an uptight senator in the birdcage. >> this is a man. >> what? >> hackman's career spanned half a century. his big break came when warren beatty cast him as his brother and fellow bank robber. in 1967, bonnie and clyde, which earned him his first oscar nomination. from there, his list of credits reads like a monument to american blockbusters. the movie i was obsessed with as a kid, the poseidon adventure. >> this little hole, as you call it, is going to get us out of here and up to broadway. we've climbed four decks so far. we've got two more to go. this is the only way out. >> no way out. mississippi
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burning crimson tide. hackman could play a volcanic everyman. >> i don't care what the scoreboard says at the end of the game. in my book, we're going to be winners. >> an ice cold president and everything in between. among his awards two oscars, 1 in 1972 for the french connection and in 1993 for unforgiven. >> he's got one barrel left. when he fires that. take out your pistols and shoot him down like a mangy scoundrel he is. >> in a rare interview in 2004, the same year he retired from acting, hackman reflected on his career with cnn's larry king. >> i never had any aspirations to be a star. i wanted to be an actor, a movie actor, a theater actor. that's all i ever wanted to do. >> and the camera has to like you, right? >> i think so. >> you can't make it like you. >> i think that the camera knows, somehow or another, it knows who you are. >> whatever role he played, audiences felt they knew who gene hackman was and they loved him for it. gene hackman was 95
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>> right wing influencer andrew tate and his brother tristan, moments after landing in fort lauderdale, florida, from romania, telling reporters they are, quote, largely misunderstood. the brothers, along with two romanian citizens, were arrested just after christmas in 2022 and formally indicted months later on charges of rape, human trafficking and setting up a criminal gang. the brothers have denied all allegations of wrongdoing. >> it's about the fact that she belongs to him, and the intimate parts of her body belong to him because they're in a relationship, and if she wants to sell those, he has a stake in those intimate parts of her body. >> besides suggesting men own women. andrew tate has often referred to women on social media as sex workers, despite his comments, andrew tate hasn't taken a clear position on whether or not he's misogynistic. >> i have nothing against women at all. i'm not sexist in any regard. i'm not a misogynist either. i will state right now that i am absolutely sexist and i'm absolutely a misogynist. >> romanian prosecutors allege that tate seduced victims by falsely claiming they wanted a relationship, or planned to
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marry them. andrew tate's controversial comments have attracted billions of views online. he was banned from twitter in 2017 for saying women should bear responsibility for being sexually assaulted. in 2022, facebook, instagram, tiktok and youtube also banned him. elon musk allowed tate to return to twitter now x in 2022, where tate has more than 10 million followers. critics and advocacy groups have voiced concern over his impact on young and vulnerable audiences, and have accused him of peddling his rants about female submission and male dominance to them. >> i believe the woman is given to the man. i believe she's given away by the father. i believe she belongs to the man, so she belongs to fundamentally. >> all right. >> so fundamentally, you do believe. >> that a woman. becomes a. >> man's property. >> i believe she belongs to the man in marriage. correct. >> so how did the tate brothers end up in the sunshine state? perhaps flattery played a role. >> trump saving the world. >> a romanian official told cnn
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that earlier this month, trump's special envoy, ric grenell, raised their case with romania's foreign minister. white house officials have said there was no direct u.s. government role in this. florida governor ron desantis said he doesn't know who was behind this. >> no, florida is not a. >> place where. you're welcome. uh, with that, with those that that type of conduct, um, in the air. and i don't know how it came to this. uh, we were not involved. we were not notified. i found out through the media. >> the first criminal case against the tate brothers failed in december 2024, after a bucharest court noted flaws in the indictment. in january, the court lifted the house arrest order. the pair had previously been banned from leaving romania, while the investigation continued. a lawyer representing alleged victims of andrew tate in the united kingdom told cnn that any suggestion that the tate's will now face justice in romania is fanciful. randi kaye and anderson, their lawyer, told cnn that the tate brothers will
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return to romania for their next court appearance. that's coming up on march 24th, and romanian prosecutors also issued a statement saying that they are required to go before the judge whenever they are summoned. but anderson, it is worth noting that they are facing sexual offense charges in the uk as well, which they deny. for women in the uk have accused andrew tate of rape and coercive control. they released a joint statement to cnn after hearing that the brothers were leaving romania, and in that statement, the women said that they were in disbelief and they felt retraumatized. they also, said, anderson, that they fear that andrew tate will use his newfound freedom to continue to spread a violent, misogynistic doctrine around the world. >> anderson randi kaye, thanks very much. and perspective. now, joining us is anthony scaramucci, who served as briefly as communications director in the first trump administration. currently, among other things, he's co-host of the. the rest is politics u.s. podcast. also joining us is lift our voices co-founder gretchen carlson. gretchen, i mean, the what message does this send that these guys have come to the
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u.s.? >> uh, it. >> sends a message that misogyny is alive and well and that they. >> had a big. role in. >> galvanizing young. men to vote for donald trump in november. i mean, andrew tate alone has 11 million followers on x, by the way. he was banned from social media for these alleged actions. but then elon musk put him back on x 2022. yeah. so he has they have the ability to they have the ability to change the hearts and minds of so many young men and others in our culture. i believe that they did that before the election. i believe they're a danger as far as messaging, not to mention what kind of messaging they have for women. >> anthony, what do you make of this? >> well, first of all, i want to applaud your charity. and i'm a proud donor to your charity, and you've raised a tremendous amount of awareness for women, including my wife and daughter. so thank you for that. thank you. and i think these guys are disgusting guys. uh, the facts are against them. and i know people that have interacted with these guys as parents where
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they're actually. eviscerating ten year old, uh, young girls. i mean, so i have no time in the day for these two, but donald trump does, because all you got to do is get in the flattering game with donald trump. they provided that flattery. they provided some promotion for him. and he. >> says he knew nothing about this was. >> he knew nothing about project 2025. he's gone down the list and executed the entire thing. >> if you were. >> asked, we've got a game show going on in the white house, is he a dictator or not a dictator? the host is donald trump. i mean, come on. >> why would richard grenell raise this with romanian authorities? ric grenell is like a i'm not sure what his exact title is, but he's been an envoy. he's been an envoy down to venezuela and other places. >> i mean, the idea. >> that this would happen right after he had spoken to the romanian officials, to me. >> is highly suspect. and if you're the president of the united states and you are asked, did you have anything to do with this? you don't say, i don't know anything about this. if you had nothing to do with this, you would say, i absolutely had
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nothing to do with this. i don't believe in the kind of character of these men. and just like ron desantis said, thankfully they're not allowed here. we do not welcome this in florida. >> i don't want to speak for rick grenell, but let's talk about the algorithm that is donald trump. praise, unfettered praise. more praise flattery. a couple of nice tweets. you look great in orange. that tint that you're wearing is fantastic. and the next thing you know, you're getting favors from the guy. and it's it's very it. >> is as easy as that in your experience. >> well, i think it's as easy as that. but don't go by me. how about the intelligence personality profiles about him? what do you think the french intelligence said to macron before he got there? what do you think keir starmer's people said to him? >> lead with the letter from the king. >> lead with the letter from the king, you know. and by the way, while we usually do one state visit for executive, we're giving you one because we know we have to double flatter you. and this is a very important country to us, and we're going to wait you out and hopefully you're gone after four years. and so i just want to say one
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last thing. that's what it is. and ric grenell knows that. and everyone around him knows that. and that's where we are. that's why we're here. >> now two other thoughts. sturmer. you know, thankfully when he was sitting next to president trump said that it would be very important that justice would be served in these cases. so trump had the opportunity to also say something similar and he did not. and the other thing is, is that i just can't believe that these two are going to be allowed to continue to infiltrate our young people in this country. i mean, that we're going back in time, decades by this kind of messaging and to try and dig ourselves out of that again is. >> it also says a lot about where young men are that they have such a following among among young men globally. >> the messaging is you're listening, you we're going to curve the law for you. we're going to provide space for you to do wrongdoing on our behalf. that's the message. and it's a very message for the society. and these guys are no good. and
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any parent would know how bad these guys are and they would reject their acts, but not donald trump. >> anthony scaramucci, appreciate it. gretchen carlson as well. thank you so much. coming up next, the release of the epstein files, what's in them? and did they actually live up to the hype in the right wing media sphere? also ahead, more breaking news, more on zelenskyy's trip to washington. president trump's promise of a very big deal on access to rare earth minerals. we'll take you to a mine in ukraine and new reporting on the widespread doubts over those resources. >> twitter. >> that's a great name. >> we invented a whole new thing. >> no one could possibly have understood where it was going. >> twitter breaking the bird premieres march 9th on. >> cnn. >> dear doctor k, i used to think i was never meant to be beautiful. i was teased because of my teeth. i didn't like the person looking back at me in the mirror. i never thought i could
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yesterday on fox. breaking news right now. >> you're going to see some epstein information being released by my office. a lot of flight logs. a lot of names. a lot a lot of information. but it's it's pretty sick. what that man did. >> well, today the white house released them. initially, it was just to a visiting group of pro-trump media influencers who even got to meet the president. that's a photo of some of them posing with binders labeled the epstein files. phase one. then, around 6:30 p.m., the documents were actually posted online, and it seems much of the material was already publicly known. late this afternoon, attorney general bondi accused the fbi of withholding thousands of additional documents. in a letter addressed to director kash patel. i'm joined now by kara scannell. so is there anything new in these documents that's been released? >> no. >> nothing new. i mean, there's a couple of different categories. one are the flight logs of who was on jeffrey epstein's plane. that all came out several years ago during the
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trial of ghislaine maxwell, his former girlfriend, who was convicted of this sex trafficking scheme. so all of that we've seen before, all the names we've seen before. also was his black book, this contact list. >> which was his address. >> book, which was his address book, which has been public on the internet for years. you know, i think the gothamist had first published it, and it has been out there for a long time. they have now officially published the document themselves. >> because online there is a whole ecosphere of qanon and others who have put out a lot of fake lists, flight lists. i believe i am on one of the fake flight lists that is out there online, because i get weird dms from people accusing me of being on a flight, which obviously is absurd. um, none of that. i mean, that's all just fake in the in the internet. >> yeah. i mean, so it will disprove some of those documents if anyone is actually going to comb through them one by one. and of course, during the maxwell trial, not everyone
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would have had access to the flight logs to look at them themselves, the official documents. i mean, we obviously saw them. we may have posted some of them, but this is now official for anyone if they want to go. because like you said, there's a lot of interest in this. and, you know, even one of these influencers was on x today reading off the names. and people were asking her questions and she was checking names. so there's certainly this huge universe of people that are still very interested in this. >> it's also interesting that pam bondi would yesterday preview this as if there was some sort of revelation just last night, in fact, on fox. and then today after its release, and it's sort of like, well, wait a minute, actually, there's not anything new here. then suddenly say, oh, well, the fbi has been withholding is withholding stuff. >> right. in her letter to kash patel, she says that before he took this, before he was sworn in and got the job, that she had been surprised to learn that she did not get all of the documents and suggested that it was the new york office where this
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investigation into both epstein and maxwell was conducted, that they were withholding documents. we don't know exactly what communications there were made to that office. obviously, they have some of the documents from that office, because it was from their trial that they were able to obtain these exhibits, particularly of the flight logs. so we know that they've gotten some material from them. they didn't provide any additional clarity on what communications there were. maybe there were issues of why they didn't turn over other information. but we do know from covering the trial, and this was official government records they obtained through grand jury subpoenas. there are a number of photographs of maxwell and epstein and some other well-known people. all of that came out during the trial. none of those people were accused in the trial of being part of the sex trafficking. i mean, that was pretty thoroughly questioned by some of the witnesses, including some of the victims who did testify. >> and just who were these social media influencers who get the initial look at the documents? >> i mean, i don't know who some of them are. it's a conservative world in which they
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operate. 15 of them, as you saw from the video and the photos. they were at the white house. they had these official binders. some of them were wearing maga hats, and then they had a heads up and a head start in looking at this. um, you know, it sort of interesting we didn't get them, the public or the rest of the mainstream media, but certainly something in trump's administration showing that they want to control how some of this information is coming out with their pool developments. they're going to decide who's in the pool. >> kirkconnell thank you, as always. appreciate it. more breaking news ahead of tomorrow's white house visit by ukraine's president. specifically the latest on the minerals deal the two countries have been hammering out. >> united states of scandal with jake tapper returns sunday, march 9th on cnn. >> it's the news. >> welcome back. >> but it's also kind of not the news. >> jenin dana bash do that. >> you know. >> there's three lesbians on this panel. am i one of them? >> if you drink tap water and
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u.s. officials and experts are warning that there is no clear picture precisely what resources ukraine actually has. and they warn that what is known is based on decades old soviet era mapping. president trump didn't talk about that today. here's what he told reporters. >> i think it's going to be great for ukraine. we're going to be at the site and we'll be, uh, we'll be digging. we'll be dig, dig, dig, dig. we must. >> well, here's cnn's nick paton walsh in ukraine. >> we very much need rare earth. they have great rare earth. >> a moonshot for ukraine's survival. talking peace suddenly means talking about places like here. this lunar landscape. a titanium mine struggling under the russian bombardment of ukraine's power grid, sometimes with only three hours power a day. >> but show much more.
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>> of ukraine in. the. >> half $1 trillion. that was the sum that president trump initially thought ukraine might be able to pay back to the united states, in his words. and here you get a sense of the challenge, really, because this place, yeah, potential is certainly there. but they say they desperately need investment. these machines are so old. and yes, so they say they would welcome american money. the pressure to get money out of the ground is enormous. as other questions as to whether the astronomical sums trump thinks are here can match the money to be made under this sprawling sea of unknown potential. >> and who knows what rare earth is worth, you know? but at least it's something. and who knows what it's worth? who knows if they even have it? >> it was at first ukraine's idea. president zelenskyy
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selling their mineral wealth in november, perhaps to successfully, as part of a victory plan for more aid. showing reporters maps here, they claim 7% global production of titanium. lithium isn't mined yet, but they say they have 3% global reserves. they say they're in the top five of graphite reserves and have some actual rare earth metals. the initial framework deal doesn't specify what it covers, mentioning only relevant resource assets that will be further described in another agreement. yet the white house has been specific about some resources. >> there is a foundry that processes aluminum in ukraine. it's been damaged. it's not at its current capacity. if that is restored, it would account for america's entire imports of aluminum for an entire year. >> mike waltz is probably referring to here an aluminum plant in zaporizhia, mothballed when filmed here a decade ago. still struggling and hit by a missile during the war.
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>> harakat al-muqawama al-islamiyya. >> the u.s., perhaps a little too eager to take ukraine with no choice but to give in a hugely complex deal that may get messier still when it runs into the cold, hard ground truth of where ukraine is at today. anderson, the draft framework deal we saw gives no specifics at all about what parts of ukraine's vast natural resources will indeed be involved in this deal. that's become so key for the future of ukraine. it will enable, though, both presidents to leap over this obstacle. still, though, there are senior ukrainian officials who admit that the geological information they're working on dates back to 1946 or 1960. huge damage done to ukraine's energy grid, its infrastructure making mining resource extraction exceptionally complex. and so many questions exactly what this means in the future. if indeed there is a peace that enables that kind of production to take off. anderson. >> nick paton walsh. thanks. the wson
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