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of that meeting. listen. >> they didn't align myself with both of them. you'd never have a deal. you want me to say really terrible things about putin and then say, hi, vladimir. how are we doing on the deal? it doesn't work that way. i'm not aligned with putin. i'm not aligned with anybody. i'm aligned with the united states of america. and for the good of the world. i'm aligned with the world. and i want to get this thing over with. you see the hatred he's got for putin. it's very tough for me to make a deal with that kind of hate. he's got tremendous hatred, and i understand that. but i can tell you the other side is exactly in love with, you know, him either. so it's not a question of alignment i have. i'm aligned with the world. i want to get the thing set. i'm aligned with europe. i want to see if we can get this thing done. you want me to be tough? i can be tougher than any human being you've ever seen. i'd be so tough. but you're never going to get a deal that way. so that's the way
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it goes. all right, one more question. >> i want to respond to this. so look, for four years, the united states of america, we had a president who stood up at press conferences and talked tough about vladimir putin. and then putin invaded ukraine and destroyed a significant chunk of the country. the path to peace and the path to prosperity is maybe engaging in diplomacy. we tried the pathway of joe biden, of thumping our chest and pretending that the president of the united states is words mattered more than the president of the united states is actions. what makes america a good country? is america engaging in diplomacy? that's what president trump is doing. >> can i ask you? >> sure. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> okay, so he occupied it. uh, our parts, big parts of ukraine, part of east and crimea. so he occupied it on 2014. so during a
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lot of years, i'm not speaking about just biden, but those times was obama, then president obama, then president trump, then president biden, now president trump. and god bless. now president trump will stop him. but during 2014, nobody stopped him. he just occupied and took. he killed people. you know what the contact 20. >> 15. >> 2014. 2014 2014. yeah. >> so he was not here. >> yeah, but. >> exactly right. >> yes. but during 2014 till 2022. you know what the situation the same that people have been dying on the contact line. nobody stopped him. you know that we had conversations with him. a lot of conversations. bilateral conversation. and we signed with him. me like a new president. in 2019, i signed with him the deal i signed with him. macron and merkel. we signed ceasefire, ceasefire. all of them told me
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that he will never go. we signed him gas contract. gas contract. yes. but after that he broken the ceasefire. he killed our people and he didn't exchange prisoners. we signed the exchange of prisoners, but he didn't do it. what kind of diplomacy? jd you are speaking about? what what what what do you mean? >> i'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to end the destruction of your country. >> yes. >> but. >> mr. president, mr. president, with respect, i think it's disrespectful for you to come into the oval office and try to litigate this in front of the american media. right now, you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower problems. you should be thanking the president for trying to bring an end to this conflict. >> to ukraine, that you say what problems we have. >> i have been to khan younis. i have actually, i've actually watched and seen the stories and i know what happens is you bring people, you bring them on a propaganda tour. mr. president, do you disagree that you've had
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problems bringing people into your military? and do you think that it's. respectful to come to the oval office of the united states of america and attack the administration that is trying to trying to prevent the destruction of your country? >> a lot of questions. let's start from the beginning. >> sure. >> first of all, during the war, everybody has problems, even you. but you have nice ocean and don't feel now, but you will feel it in the future. god bless you. god bless you. god bless you. will not. >> you don't tell us what we're going to feel. we're trying to solve a problem. don't tell us what we're going to feel. >> i'm not telling you. >> because you're in no position to dictate that that's. >> exactly what you're doing. >> you're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel. we're going to feel very good. we're going to feel very good and very strong influence. you're right now not in a very good position. you've allowed yourself to be in a very bad position, and he happens to be right. >> about the very beginning of the war. >> you're not in a good position. you don't have the cards right now with us. you
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start having cards. cards? right now you don't play. >> cards. you're playing cards. >> you're gambling with the. lives of millions of people. you're gambling with world war three. you're gambling with world war three. and what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country. this country. >> that's back to you. >> far more than a lot of people said they should have. >> have you said thank you once. >> this entire meeting? >> no. in this entire meeting, have you said. >> thank you? >> you went to pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in october. offer some words of appreciation for the united states of america and the president who's trying to save your country. >> please. >> you think that if you will speak very loudly about the war, you. >> can. >> start speaking loudly? he's not speaking loudly. your country is in big trouble. >> can i. >> wait a minute? no, no, you've done a lot of talking. your country is in big trouble. >> i know. >> you're not winning. >> no, you're. >> not winning this. you have a good chance of coming out, okay?
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>> because of us president. >> we are staying in our country, staying strong. from the very beginning of the war, we've been alone, and we are thankful. i said thanks. >> you haven't been. >> in this cabinet. in this. >> we gave you. >> through this. >> stupid president, $350 billion. >> we gave you. >> military equipment. >> you and your men. >> are brave, but they had to use our military. if you didn't. >> have our. >> military equipment. >> you invited me. >> you didn't have our military equipment. this war would have been over in two weeks. >> in three days? >> i heard it from putin in three days. this is. >> something maybe less. >> in two weeks. of course. >> yes. >> it's going to be a very hard thing to do. business like this, i tell you. >> just say thank you. >> i said. >> except that except. >> the american. >> people accept that there are disagreements and let's go litigate those disagreements rather than trying to fight it out in the american media. when you're wrong, we know that you're wrong. >> but you see, i think it's good for the american people to see what's going on. i think it's very important. that's why i kept this going so long. you
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have to be thankful you don't have the cards. you're buried there. your people are dying. i tell you, you're running low on soldiers. >> listen. >> you're running low on soldiers. it would be a good thing. and then you. then you tell us. i don't want a ceasefire. i don't want a ceasefire. i want to go, and i want this. look, if you could get a ceasefire right now, i tell you. you take it. so the bullets stop flying and your men stop getting killed. >> of course we want to stop the war. >> but you're saying you don't want a ceasefire? i said to you, i want a ceasefire. >> guarantees. >> because you'll get a cease fire faster than an agreement. >> where people about cease fire. what they think. >> there wasn't. >> me for you. what? >> there wasn't with me. that was with a guy named biden who was not a smart person. that was your. that was with obama. >> it was your. >> excuse me? that was with obama, who gave you a sheetz and i gave you javelins. yes. i gave you the javelins to take out all those tanks obama gave you sheets. in fact, the statement is obama gave sheets and trump gave javelins. you got to be
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more thankful because let me tell you, you don't have the cards with us. you have the cards, but without us you don't have any cards. >> one more question, mr. vice president. i'm sorry. >> he's going to be a tough deal to make because the attitudes have to change. >> what if russia breaks his fire? what if russia breaks peace talks? what do you do then? understand that it's a heated conversation, right? >> what are you saying? >> she's asking what if russia breaks the ceasefire? >> what if they. what, if anything? what if a bomb drops on your head right now? okay, what if they broke it? i don't know, they broke it with biden because biden didn't respect him. they didn't respect obama. they respect me. let me tell you, putin went through a hell of a lot with me. he went through a phony witch hunt where they used him and russia, russia, russia, russia. you ever hear of that deal? that was a phony. that was a phony. hunter biden, joe biden scam. hillary
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clinton, shifty adam schiff. it was a democrat scam, and he had to go through that. and he did go through it. and we didn't end up in a war. and he went through it. he was accused of all that stuff. he had nothing to do with it. came out of hunter biden's bathroom. it came out of hunter biden's bedroom. it was disgusting. and then they said, oh, oh, the laptop from hell was made by russia. the 51 agents. the whole thing was a scam. and he had to put up with that. he was being accused of all that stuff. all i can say is this he might have broken deals with obama and bush, and he might have broken them with biden. he did. maybe. maybe he didn't. i don't know what happened, but he didn't break him with me. he wants to make a deal. i don't know if he can make a deal. the problem is, i've empowered you to be a tough guy, and i don't think you'd be a tough guy without the united states. and your people are very brave. but
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you either are going to make a deal or we're out. and if we're out, you'll fight it out. i don't think it's going to be pretty, but you'll fight it out. but you don't have the cards. but once we sign that deal, you're in a much better position. but you're not acting at all thankful. and that's not a nice thing. i'll be honest. that's not a nice thing. >> after that, we saw zelenskyy getting ready to depart the white house. we saw a post from trump on social media. we found out that their signing of a rare earth mineral deal was canceled, and their joint press conference was canceled. that post saying, we had a very meaningful meeting in the white house today. much was learned that could never be understood without conversation under such fire and pressure. it's amazing what comes out through emotion, and i have determined that president zelenskyy is not ready for peace. if america is involved, because he feels our involvement gives him a big advantage in
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negotiations. i don't want advantage. i want peace. it's really hard to imagine how this could have gone worse. an adviser for russian president vladimir putin, just reacting to the meeting with one word, quote, historic. cnn chief national affairs correspondent jeff zeleny is at the white house. um, jeff zelenskyy spent about 25 more minutes in the white house after trump posted that the meeting was over. do we know what happened there? >> we do not know exactly what happened. that certainly will be one of the notes of history that we certainly will learn more about this day here at the white house, the west wing, of course, has many offices. and when foreign visitors come, they are afforded an area to work. we do know that there were no further discussions between the american side and the ukrainian delegation. obviously, lunch was canceled. the press conference was canceled, and journalists from around the world standing
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outside the white house here watched as zelenskyy drove off in his suv and will soon be leaving washington later today. and it's extraordinary. this was a week that began on a hopeful note. for diplomatic sake, at least when the french president, emmanuel macron, visited on monday, the visit was amplified by the british prime minister visit on thursday, trying to pave the way for some type of a security arrangement with ukraine that clearly erupted largely when the vice president, who sat silently through most of the meeting as we saw, suddenly did not at the end. but there is no certainty where this goes from here. we do know the president the next time we're scheduled to see him is when he leaves the white house around 5:00 today to head to his mar-a-lago resort in florida. we will see if he speaks then or before then, but as of now, there are no other meetings scheduled at the white house, and zelenskyy is scheduled at
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president trump and zelenskyy went to separate rooms after their exchange with the ukrainians, actually wanting the talks to continue. but as we hear from a white house official, the white house made it clear that it was time for them to go. trump ordering the ukrainians to be told to leave. >> so kicked out eventually, right? let's listen to part of this moment in the oval office. >> gambling with world war iii. you're gambling with world war three, and what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country. this country. that's backed you far more than a lot of people said they should have. >> have you said thank you once this entire meeting? no. in this entire meeting, have you said thank you? you went to pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in october. offer some words of appreciation for the united states of america and the president, who is trying to save your country.
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>> let's go now to nick paton walsh, our chief national security correspondent, who is in kyiv. uh, and what we're learning here, nick, from reporting from our kevin liptak is essentially that trump kicked zelenskyy and the ukrainian delegation out of the white house. tell us, though, what you are learning. i know you have some brand new reporting. >> yeah. u.s. officials i've been speaking to familiar with the ukraine negotiations who observed, obviously, like pretty much everyone, this meeting said that they felt things might go awry as soon as zelenskyy got out of the car wearing his trademark shirt with the ukrainian emblem. there, we've seen him wearing gray green t-shirts for years. he's recently started wearing black long sleeved shirts more often, uh, rather than a suit. i should point out that his chief of staff, andriy yermak, was seen wearing a suit. he's not often seen in that clothing either. they've been adopting sort of military style fatigues since the beginning of this war, often
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appearing alongside european leaders to emphasize the point that they are at war. in official diplomatic meetings, the official i spoke to saying, i know it's his thing, but this moment is different. and then the official says in their own feeling and interpretation of this, that zelenskyy should have handled this differently. when vance sat down, he should have taken a more conciliatory approach. now was not the time to quibble or correct the vice president or the president of the united states. remember, in previous meetings we've seen in exactly the same situation emmanuel macron of france, keir starmer of the united kingdom, prime minister, have corrected trump when it came to aid. but the tone of the correction and the spirit of the meeting was entirely different, much more convivial. this appears to have sparked. i think it's fair to say an unexpected intervention from jd vance, the vice president. we've seen him in previous meetings and indeed those meetings. he wasn't as vocal. he definitely interjected here. and that seemed to be when things got particularly, uh, feisty. >> nick, it's about 20 minutes after 9 p.m. where you are in
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kyiv. are ukrainians aware of what just unfolded at the white house? >> yeah, this is changing the course of this nation. and there are now kitchen table conversations, people in bars before curfew hits in here in the capital. some of their heads in their hands. i'm sure a sense of. indignation, perhaps, at the way their president was treated there. there were times when he was not allowed to speak, lectured by the vice president. and i think it's important to remember ukrainians have lost people close to them, lived under bombardment for three years. and, you know, i think feel that sacrifice is something they would like to see respected. but here, i think the president was very much expected to take the ingratiating tone. we've seen the french and uk leaders take in the past week or so. and at times i think maybe didn't read the room in that way. and certainly things did
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spiral out of control. but there are many ukrainians who are deeply anxious about what this means. it didn't just go badly. he got thrown out of the white house and the rare earth minerals deal, which, look, we've been told most people understand. if that isn't signed, aid is significantly in doubt. may stop entirely. that wasn't signed either. and so we are as that u.s. official i spoke to said in, quote, new territory at the moment, nobody really thought it could be this bad. and nobody really, i think, understands what this means going forward, except that things will be significantly different. watch the front lines now. that's where we may start seeing this having its greatest impact. >> yeah, this was a disaster. let's go now to evelyn farkas, former u.s. deputy assistant secretary of defense for russia, ukraine and eurasia. evelyn, can you sort of point to the moment where this tipped, where the tipping point was such that this went off the rails and now this alliance is in question? uh, the
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american place in this world order is in question. >> yeah. i mean, brianna, it's a combination of substance and style, right? i mean, they were disagreeing over substance. but i think where it where it went off the rails is on the style side because the vice president interjected. and then you had the two most powerful people in the world ganging up on someone, a leader, really, a truly the only international leader who has spoken so clearly about universal values, about sovereignty, about freedom. you know, over the last decades. frankly, he's the one that stands out as being churchillian, and he's being ganged up upon in a moment of, you know, vulnerability, if you will, publicly. i've never felt more embarrassed and humiliated for my country, because that's not how you treat anyone. um, you know, much less vladimir zelenskyy. so i think it was the
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substance more than the than. sorry, the the the style more than the substance. of course, there were substantive disagreements and those would have probably remained. but the style is really what i think is, is shocking to all of us. >> we're also joined now by chief national security correspondent alex marquardt and michael bociurkiw, a former spokesperson for the organization for security and cooperation in europe, as well as admiral james stavridis, former nato supreme allied commander, retired former nato supreme allied commander. thank you all for being with us. alex, first to you to evelyn's point about style. we just heard this reporting from nick paton walsh, the distaste for volodymyr zelenskyy and his military garb. right. he was asked about why he wasn't wearing a suit, not something of extreme importance there, but it did strike me when we just heard that audio again from jd vance and his exchanges with the ukrainian president. he pointed out that zelenskyy, in vance's words, campaigned for
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the opposition. so their dislike for zelenskyy, and he was trying to correct j.d. vance there, saying, i don't know what you're talking about. their dislike for zelenskyy is personal. >> yeah, it runs pretty deep. and what he's referring to is a stop that vladimir zelenskyy made during the heat of the campaign or the end of the campaign season in pennsylvania. at a munitions factory, um, accompanied by democrats. and that was seen as partisan and campaigning against donald trump. so clearly he didn't take that well. vance was also seemingly affronted by the lack of thanks from vladimir zelenskyy in that meeting. we have to emphasize that that zelenskyy has said thank you repeatedly over the course of the past three years. he's often coupled that with and we need more, um, the this notion of his his fashion, rubbing them the wrong way. i mean, these ukrainian officials, zelenskyy foremost among them, wearing that to remind everybody else that they're still at war. and it is sometimes very notable when everybody else is dressed in a suit and he's meeting
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these big, fancy foreign leaders. um, but but that is the point there. i am struck by the fact that volodymyr zelenskyy first came to the white house in his first foreign trip, just over two years ago, in december of 2022, and it was a huge deal at the time because it was the first time he had left the country. while his country has been at war. he was, of course, welcomed. um, as, as you know, the leader of a country at war and as a hero. and here he is just over two years later, being kicked off of the white house lawn. it is just extraordinary. and as the dust settles a bit on this shock, i think we have to think about what happens next. unless there's some hail mary effort to mend ties this afternoon, we will see zelenskyy go back to, uh, ukraine. the europeans certainly will be scrambling to try to smooth things over before today's meeting was even started, there was a meeting that was being called for by the brits on sunday. certainly now there is
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added importance to that. they'll be trying to figure out how best to proceed, whether what way the europeans can act as a mediator. um, i have been trying to speak to as many people as possible to get some reaction. there's a lot of hesitance to react. i think no one wants to rock the boat any further. i did hear from a european diplomat who said, i'm shocked. i've never seen such a barrage of accusations against the leader of a country that has been attacked by an aggressor state, and i think that is a very common reaction that we're hearing right now. >> and we have some new reporting in from kaitlan collins that is painting an incredible picture. and we'll try to get her up so we can talk to her a little bit more about it as she's available. but it says after president trump and zelenskyy got into an extraordinary shouting match, they trump was huddling with key advisers immediately afterward inside the oval office. and according to a white house official, trump consulted with his vice president, his secretary of state, marco rubio treasury secretary and other top
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advisers in the dramatic showdown where trump jd vance accused zelenskyy of being ungrateful for u.s. aid. and that was when trump ultimately decided zelenskyy wasn't in a place to negotiate. he then directed rubio and his national security advisor, mike waltz, to deliver the message that it was time to go. >> yeah, and in a really telling part of this reporting from kaitlan collins, the ukrainians were holding nearby in a separate room. this is standard when foreign leaders visit the white house, typically they go into these other rooms and they will reconvene for lunch. but the ukrainians were essentially told they had to leave over their protest. they wanted to continue the talks. they were told no. and a fascinating detail here as the prepared food sat nearby on carts in the hallway outside the press secretary's office, ukrainians were instructed to leave. they weren't even offered lunch. they were just kicked out of the white house after that meeting. >> it's an incredible vignette that she paints there with her reporting. let's bring in michael bociurkiw, who is the former spokesperson for the organization for security and cooperation in europe. and,
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michael, i think one of the things we have to zero in on here is that idea of vance saying and trump clearly agreeing. why wasn't zelenskyy more grateful? because what it tells us is that there is this sense coming from the trump administration, certainly from trump, that it's almost as if the u.s. is doing charity here, that it doesn't have a stake in the war. this doesn't affect americans. the outcome does not have ramifications for the u.s. you started to hear volodymyr zelenskyy trying to say, you will feel this. and trump was almost triggered by that pushing back. do not tell us what we are going to feel. we're going to feel fine or something like that. what do you say to that? this idea that the u.s. doesn't really have a dog in this fight. >> yeah, well it does. it has a huge stake. and by the way, as we're speaking right now, there are explosions outside because air defense systems are trying
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to repel a huge swarm of russian drones. it's almost as if it started on cue after the ukrainians left the white house. but having said that, and i'm safe, so don't worry. but the ukrainians have been telling me and a lot of others. zelenskyy is screaming at the top of his voice that, no, we're not just, you know, defending ukraine's integrity, integrity and sovereignty, but we're also fighting for the rules based international order for european security, for american security. and, you know, here i am in odessa, world port odessa. it ships food all over the world, especially wheat. and i think a problem here is that perhaps earlier on, that argument wasn't articulated well enough that the west has a lot to lose should ukraine stop being a viable economic entity? of course, the other thing we have to the ukrainians like to remind the americans whenever they can is that it's not as if and it
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wasn't, uh, you know, 360 billion. it was about half of that. but it's not as if this cash was put on pallets and flown by military aircraft to ukraine. a lot of it stayed in the united states, creating wealth, creating jobs. a lot of the equipment was due to be mothballed, but it was sent here. so that's what. and the other thing i'm seeing right right now from ukrainians is they're still absorbing this because they can't believe what just happened. but what you see on ukrainian language telegram channels are people trading words of support from people like donald tusk and poland, uh, spain and france. there's, i think, a sense right now that let's huddle together. but finally, um, silver lining, if we can call it that for zelenskyy is, uh, he will come back a hero, i think, after everyone sees how he stood up to what's supposed to be the defender of the free world. >> i just want to point out, we have now gotten a statement from president zelenskyy, and he seems to be answering that
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demand from jd vance that he expressed gratitude. zelenskyy here, posting on social media, quote, thank you america. thank you for your support. thank you for this visit. thank you, president trump. congress and the american people. ukraine needs a just and lasting peace. and we are working exactly for that. really telling words. the president of ukraine repeating thank you multiple times in this statement. i do want to go to admiral stavridis, who is with us. admiral, to the point that brianna and michael bociurkiw were just making zelenskyy, who was trying to express that vladimir putin's aspirations go beyond ukraine, and he sort of made the case that the u.s. may have this big, beautiful ocean, as he described it, that keeps us isolated from some of europe's problems. but eventually, the u.s. will feel the sting of letting vladimir putin act as he wishes. trump seemed to dismiss that.
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>> history will tell you. and by the way, i know this because i'm an admiral. sooner or later they come across the ocean for you, just like the japanese empire did on the 7th of december. those oceans are big and beautiful. i can attest to that, having spent a lifetime on them. they are not going to protect us from the kind of global intervention by an adventurous vladimir putin. so point one is, i think zelenskyy got the better of that argument. point two to be made here is okay. what what happens now? i'm reminded of senator john mccain, who i think would have some pretty strong views on all this. mccain used to say it always looks darkest before it goes completely black. and i kind of feel that way coming out of this meeting in terms of u.s. support to ukraine, perhaps something can be salvaged. i'm hopeful. mike waltz marco rubio and others will try and do so,
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but it feels very dark for u.s. support, and that creates longer term knock on effects on our security. and then third and. finally, boris and brianna, i think it's worth saying that this is going to put real pressure on nato, on the idea of a nato alliance as a former supreme allied commander. this is dismaying in brussels because it's such a sharp division between the united states and our european allies. maybe that transatlantic bridge isn't about to break completely, but boy, can i hear it creaking right now. >> what stops it from breaking? admiral? >> um. good faith on the part of all of the 32 members. if i were secretary general mark rutte right now, i would call a nato
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meeting, bring the ambassadors together, and perhaps press for a summit. this is a moment of real crisis for the nato alliance. that's an another indication of the knock on danger here. so let's watch what happens at this sunday meeting of the europeans. i'll close with this. a little ray of light in all this. if the united states were to simply stop supporting ukraine, let's not forget, collectively, the european economy is five times the size of russia. their defense spending is three times the size of russia. they can provide an awful lot of assistance. they can make up for a us that walks away. boy, do i hope we don't get to that point. that's when the transatlantic bridge breaks. >> all right. admiral stavridis, thank you for that. and thank you to everyone who joined us for this discussion. we have much more ahead. we'll be right back.
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stupid president, $350 billion. we gave you military equipment. you and your men are brave. but they had to use our military. if you didn't have our military equipment, if you didn't have our military equipment, this war would have been over in two weeks. >> in three days. i heard it from putin in three days. >> moments after that fiery exchange, president trump posted this on truth social, saying in part, quote, i've determined that president zelenskyy is not ready for peace if america is involved. he disrespected the united states of america and its cherished oval office. he can come back when he's ready for peace. cnn's matthew chance is in moscow for us. and matthew, we are seeing some celebratory responses from russian officials. >> i don't know whether they're celebratory. i mean, we're not seeing russians sort of cracking open bottles of champagne or anything like that, which we've seen in the past. of course, with in 2016, when president
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trump was elected for the first time. but we are seeing russian officials reflect that idea, which we just saw there from from president trump and his truth social post that the white house, that trump that america was disrespected in some way by the ukrainian leader, the head of the federation council here, which is like the senate, basically said that zelenskyy was thrown out for bad behavior. um, the foreign ministry spokeswoman, maria zakharova, said that she was surprised that trump and vance didn't slap zelenskyy for the way he behaved. um, and this, um, tweet or ex posting from dmitry medvedev, who's a former russian president and former prime minister, a close ally of putin. he's given to very outlandish statements, particularly in last couple of years. but he said this look about zelenskyy, the insolent pig, finally got a proper slap down in the oval office and the real donald trump. president trump is right. the kremlin
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regime is gambling with world war iii. and so a lot of russian officials there, um, you know, publicly at least, are reflecting that sort of sense of outrage and apparent disrespect that the white house itself is, is, is, is talking about in its, in its reaction to this. but i can tell you that, you know, privately, um, i've spoken to lots of russians in official capacities and non-official capacities, and they said they were absolutely gobsmacked to see two senior figures like this go at each other, um, in public, on the television cameras in a way that they have just not seen anyone go like that in the past. they can't imagine, for instance, you know, putin speaking to somebody who'd been invited to the kremlin in that way. that's how it's been expressed to me. and so gobsmacked privately, publicly supporting the lines coming out of the white house. guys.
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>> what happens now in these u.s. russia talks? >> well, it's it's not clear this will derail the talks because those talks, remember are you know a lot about a wide range of issues. they're not just about the ukraine war. um, they're about rebuilding the embassies in each other's countries. they're about potentially reestablishing direct flights between the two countries. basically turning the relationship between washington and moscow, which has been battered over the past several years because of the war in ukraine and because of other issues as well, like, you know, meddling. remember that meddling russian meddling in the in the u.s. election? there's been a lot of sanctions imposed by the united states on russia because of that. well, the talks are all about, you know, sweeping that away and trying to rebuild the relationship between washington and moscow. and so it's it's not clear that that these will those talks will be derailed by this. in fact, they could they
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could proceed ahead. but the idea that there's going to be a peace deal involving ukraine at this moment seems to be something that the white house under president trump is, for the moment, ruling out. >> yeah, we'll see what comes next. matthew chance live for us in moscow. thank you so much. stay with cnn news central. we're going to take a quick break. we'll be back in just a few minutes. >> twitter. that's a great name. >> we invented a whole new thing. no one could possibly have understood where it was going. >> twitter. breaking the bird premieres. >> march 9th on cnn. okay, everyone. >> our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. >> to ensure with 27 vitamins and minerals, nutrients for immune health, and ensure complete with 30g of protein.
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complication for pope francis. the vatican saying that the pope is on a breathing machine after he had a sudden episode of breathing difficulty. and then aspirated vomit. >> you may recall the 88 year old has been in the hospital battling pneumonia for more than two weeks. let's take you to the vatican now, where cnn vatican correspondent christopher lam has the update. he's not actually at the vatican. he's near the hospital where the pope is being treated. christopher, this is obviously a serious complication. >> that's right. boris. it is a setback for pope francis because the last few days we had heard good news of improvement that the pope was responding to treatment. however, um, this news tonight is concerning, francis. we are told, had a bronchospasm, which is a tightening of the bronchi, making it difficult for him to breathe. that was then complicated by vomiting episode where he which he inhaled vomit, which made it very difficult for him to breathe. and then he was
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put on this machine. ventilation and noninvasive breathing ventilation. but obviously a heightening or intensification of the oxygen administration that the pope needs at this time. francis is 88 years old. he has pneumonia in both lungs. he's been in the hospital now for 15 days. it's the longest hospital stay of his pontificate. there is real concern and anxiety here in the vatican. and each night people are gathering behind me here at saint peter's to pray for the pope. a vatican source says the next 24 to 48 hours are crucial in determining whether the pope's overall condition has deteriorated. to decide whether this is a temporary setback or whether it is something more serious. but we are going to get an update from the vatican on saturday morning, and of course, we'll bring those to you as soon as we can. >> boris and christopher, what
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is the the mood out there like? i understand that there have been supporters and well-wishers gathering to pray and to hold vigils for the pope. >> yes. that's right. both at the hospital. people have been gathering to pray. and here in saint peter's square each night, people are coming to saint peter's square in their hundreds to pray for the pope. tonight, a prayer service will be led by cardinal fernandez, who is, like the pope from argentina. he's a very close friend of the pope. he will be leading the prayers tonight for pope francis. there's obviously a state of anxiety, i would say, and concern here at the vatican and in rome. people are checking their phones day and night for updates. there's a lot of concern, as i say tonight, a setback after the generally more encouraging news. but we were
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berating zelenskyy, who was there to try to hammer out a natural resources deal and have a joint press conference as part of u.s. efforts to end the war with russia. >> we're learning that after this extraordinary exchange in the oval office, trump and zelenskyy went into separate rooms. a white house official telling cnn that trump huddled with his key advisers and decided to kick zelenskyy out. with trump then posting on social media that he can come back when he is ready for peace. here is part of the heated discussion. >> a question of alignment i have to. i'm aligned with the world. i want to get the thing set. i'm aligned with europe. i want to see if we can get this thing done. you want me to be tough? i could be tougher than any human being you've ever seen. i'd be so tough. but you're never going to get a deal that way. so that's the way it goes. one more question. >> on that. >> i want to respond to this. so look, for four years, the united states of america, we had a president who stood up at press conferences and
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