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strongest allies. it follows a dramatic collapse of diplomacy when a meeting at the white house friday turned into a heated exchange between zelenskyy, president trump and vice president vance. zelenskyy posted this morning that he still believes the u.s. remains a strategic partner despite the incident. he also defended his actions at the white house and says it doesn't have to be a deal breaker. >> do you. >> think your relationship with donald trump. president trump, after today can be salvaged? >> yes. >> of course, because it's relations more than two. presidents. the historical relations, strong relations between our people. >> republicans quickly came to trump's defense secretary of state, marco rubio, who was in the room in the oval office, told cnn that zelenskyy is fully to blame for the breakdown. >> he said he does not think that he owes president trump an

apology for what happened inside the oval office today. do you feel otherwise? >> i do, i do because you guys don't. see, you guys only saw the end. you saw what happened today. you don't see all the things that led up to this. >> but what specifically do you want to see president zelenskyy apologize for? >> well, apologize for turning this thing into the fiasco for him that it became. there was no need for him to go in there and become antagonistic. >> chief national security correspondent nick paton walsh is in kyiv and senior white house producer betsy klein is with the president in florida. nick, to you first, what has been the reaction in ukraine? >> i think a sense of consternation. shock. uh, i think many ukrainians feel that zelenskyy was very poorly treated during that meeting and had to address a number of mistruths from suggestions, perhaps, that he wasn't dressed up enough. there was comments about him not wearing a suit, and he said that he would wear a costume that's russian for a

suit. uh, at the end of the war. then he was confronted with the suggestion that russia could be trusted in diplomacy, something that over the last decade, ukraine has extensive experience of not being the case. and then there was a much more direct tone that jd vance, the vice president, took with him, which caused things to deteriorate. i mean, i think many ukrainians viewed that situation with their heads in their hands and a deep sense of existential fear for what it means for their country. now where next? well, nato secretary general mark rutte has said today in an interview that he thinks zelenskyy has to mend his relationship with the american president and with his inner circle senior american officials. that is really the only way ahead. i think most european officials who will be tomorrow in london, a significant number of european powers, pretty much all of nato outside of the u.s. and canada, from what we can see, reading the list of attendees, they are obviously working at bolstering ukraine's immediate support and the possibility of trying to assist them in the event of a peacekeeping mission being

needed. but most european nations accept that the idea of confronting russia on the battlefield without u.s. support is something they've never really had to configure themselves for, so urgent hopes that this can be remedied. keir starmer, the uk prime minister, spoke to both trump and zelenskyy yesterday as zelenskyy spoke to french president emmanuel macron. the phones are obviously hot, but we don't have at this stage is a sense that trump is necessarily willing to see zelenskyy again. there are suggestions from many senior republicans or his team that maybe zelenskyy is now the problem. the simple act of trying to replace a president in wartime impossible, frankly, that would sow chaos politically and increase the russian narrative that indeed zelenskyy is somehow illegitimate despite him being elected. all hopes, i think, on tomorrow, showing european unity behind ukraine, but ultimately to the road ahead here somehow involves those horrific scenes we saw in the oval office, leading to a

reconciliation. >> all right, nick, betsy, republicans have been very quick to fall in line behind trump and defend him. what more are they saying? >> that's right fred, it was really an extraordinary fracturing of a key u.s. alliance before our very eyes. and president trump ran, campaigned on ending russia's war in ukraine. and he is seeking to broker a peace deal between russia and ukraine. now, all of this started as he held unilateral talks with russian president vladimir putin. of course, without ukraine at the table and now on friday, inviting zelenskyy to the oval office for a meeting that was ostensibly about securing a critical minerals deal. and we expected president zelenskyy to ask for u.s. security assurances. of course, all of that devolved about 40 minutes into the otherwise pleasant meeting, as president trump and vice president jd vance began berating zelenskyy for not being grateful enough, as well as

repeating some russian talking points. now, both sides retreated to separate rooms. at the conclusion of that meeting, and trump's team advised him against continuing on with that critical minerals deal. mike waltz, the national security advisor, was then dispatched to tell zelenskyy it was time to leave. here's what he said about that moment. >> his ambassador. >> and his. >> adviser were., were were. practically i mean, they were practically in tears wanting this to move forward. but zelenskyy was still argumentative. and finally, what i said, i said, look, mr. president, time is not on your side here. time is not on your side on the battlefield. time is not on on your side in terms of the world situation and most importantly. >> u.s. aid and. >> the taxpayers. tolerance is not unlimited. >> now, plans for that lunch, the deal signing and a press

conference were scrapped as president trump said that zelenskyy didn't want peace. of course, the russians, reacting with glee. and all of this comes as u.s. support broadly for ukraine and for zelenskyy has waned in recent years. president trump's top allies on capitol hill were quick to praise him. overwhelmingly for how he handled this meeting, and, of course, his political opponents slammed him. kamala harris team fundraising on this moment in the oval office. now trump is viewing this confrontation from an economic lens, and he is really transforming u.s. alliances on the global stage. but diplomats say that talks like this so often are heated the way that we saw. what's different, completely different, is that all of this played out in front of television cameras. now, for his part, trump, so mindful of stagecraft, said that he believed the episode is going to be great television, fredricka. >> all right. betsy klein nick paton walsh, thanks to both of

you. all right. let's bring in now cnn's matthew chance in moscow. matthew, how is this incident being viewed in russia? >> yeah. >> well, i mean, look. >> despite what betsy was saying there, actually, i've spoken to some russian officials and they've said they were gobsmacked at the way in which these individuals, these national leaders spoke to each other. both the american and the ukrainian leaders, not just because it was played out in public, but also because even when there's an argument, you know, it's very rarely takes these kinds of, you know, kind of angry, angry tones that we saw in in that spectacle in the oval office. that's what they say privately. publicly, of course. uh, officials that have spoken out have done so in a very supportive way for the white house, basically saying that it was president zelenskyy of ukraine alone who was disrespectful and deserved what he got. i mean, one former russian president and prime minister, dmitry medvedev, who is admittedly given to very outrageous comments, particularly in the past few

years, said that this the the insolent pig. he called zelinski, finally got a proper slap down in the oval office. so it just gives you a sense of, uh, you know, satisfaction, glee. you might say, uh, that russian officials behind the scenes are taking when they they viewed this scene, uh, another russian official, kirill dmitriev uh, a senior envoy, uh, for the kremlin in u.s. russian talks. he called it historic. and i think that talks to the idea that what we've been witnessing here isn't just an argument between two men or three men, you know, leaders of two countries. it is also potentially an historic shift in the alliances or the positions of the united states when it comes to not just ukraine, but its western allies as well. and that's certainly one sense in which some russian officials are seeing this now moving forward. um, the the big question, i think, is what impact this will have. you know, i mean, the question from a russian point of

view is what impact will this have on bilateral talks between the united states and russia, because they have already gone some way towards repairing that relationship. will that this now accelerate that process or will it slow it down? that's something that is very much a question hanging over, uh, you know, the the situation here. >> mhm. all right. matthew chance in moscow. thanks so much. all right. let's continue this conversation now. joining us is simon schuster. he's the senior correspondent for time. you're in kyiv right now. how are ukrainians feeling today about how zelenskyy handled himself? >> hi. thank you. yeah. it might surprise you to hear that ukrainians are generally the ones i've talked to. officials, regular folks on the street, um, feel very proud of their president for the way he stood up to the most powerful man in the world. um, in many ways. uh, one one person told me it reminds her of the way that volodymyr zelenskyy stood up to putin early in the invasion and

earlier in his presidency. you know, he has a backbone and in many ways, ukrainians expect him to, uh, take a strong position to represent them around the world with his head held high. but of course, the flip side of that, those feelings of pride here in kyiv is fear. fear of what the consequences will be of this exchange in the oval office, and what it will mean for ukraine's ability to continue fighting and ultimately survive this, this horrific invasion. >> um, and then, you know, upon further evaluating all that transpired yesterday for the world to see, uh, it was vice president jd vance who kind of chimed in, right. saying to zelenskyy he was disrespectful, that he hasn't said thank you in that visit. but cnn has counted at least 33 occasions in which zelenskyy has said thank you to a variety of american leaders following his exit. however, yesterday from the white house,

he posted thanks to the white house, congress and so many others. these are, you know, some of the other thank yous that he has given to america over this three year war. listen. >> thank you so much, mr. president. >> of course. >> thanks. bipartisan support. >> thanks, congress. and and. thanks from our. just ordinary people. to your ordinary. >> people. >> americans. financial assistance is also. >> critically important. >> and i. >> would like to. thank you. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> for both. >> financial packages. you have already provided us with, and. >> the ones. >> you may. be willing to decide on. your money. >> is not. >> charity. >> it's an. investment in the global. >> security and democracy that we handle in the most

responsible way. first of all, thank you for your leadership. >> for. >> your support., and really. for this new package. >> it's great. >> thank you very much from our people. and i'm so happy that. >> you know. >> we have. >> so strong relations with our people. >> that our. >> people during. >> this, all these challenges, they go shoulder to shoulder. i'm very. thankful to american people. today's discussions in the white house and in congress, across both parties and both chambers with the speaker, were very productive. and i thank you for the bipartisan support. mr. president. uh, thank you for your strong support for the decisions that are helping us protect ukraine. ukrainians, we deeply appreciate that. ukraine and america have stood side by side from the very first moments of this terrible russian

invasion. >> so do ukrainians feel that that meeting that devolved at the white house yesterday was about a lack of gratitude, or what do they think is at the core? >> uh, they definitely don't think it's about it's a question of gratitude. um, you know, they think at the core of it is a disrespect that was shown to to their president, to president zelenskyy and that he he responded to that. you know, this this issue of of zelenskyy being insufficiently grateful actually has come up over the years. um, you know, while i was working on a book about zelenskyy, his biography, you know, my reporting showed that these conversations, similar exchanges, often very heated, were taking place behind closed doors between zelenskyy and various western leaders, including president joe biden. um, where, you know, sometimes the western leaders, his foreign allies, were expressing frustration that, hey, why are you always demanding more more weapons, more support, maybe

take a pause and show gratitude for what we have already given you. these kinds of conversations have been taking place for a while, but you have to understand where zelenskyy is coming from. you know, he has the urgency of his soldiers who are dying on the front lines, communicating with him and telling him we need the support now. we need the ammunition. we need the weapons. he is getting that from his own armed forces. he's feeling the pressure from his own citizens to represent them and get the international support that that ukraine needs. so, you know, it's hard for him to be uh, always polite, calm and take things slow. he needs to demand what ukraine needs to survive. >> so you saw in zelenskyy yesterday at the oval office, the same zelenskyy that you profiled for the book. you know, the in the showman inside the invasion that shook the world. you feel that he was consistent with the volodymyr zelenskyy that you met.

>> very much so. i mean in some ways this this episode was classic zelenskyy. you know, he is, uh, often blunt. he's very direct. um, he doesn't do well with the kind of niceties of diplomatic protocol. um, he doesn't like being talked down to. no one does. but he is particularly known for, uh, talking back and demanding the respect as a leader of ukraine, that he be spoken to by other leaders as an equal, even if, um, his, his, uh, his partners may have nuclear weapons, far larger economies. he thinks that as ukraine's leader, he deserves to be treated with the respect of an equal by even even the president of the united states. and really, any country in the world. >> mhm. all right. simon schuster, we'll leave it there now. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> all right. back in this country. federal employees are once again being told to defend what they accomplished at work this week. in a new round of

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let's go to nic robertson, who is outside ten downing street. all right. well, you saw it live as it unfolded really just moments ago. just seconds before we came out of the break there. talk to us about that greeting and what is at stake. >> hugely important. very symbolic. mostly when leaders pull up here, with a few exceptions, they pull up right at the steps of downing street. they get a handshake on the door step and they bound inside. it was different with president zelenskyy. carefully choreographed his vehicle, pulled up dozens of yards short of the doorway at number ten. um, he came out. he walked up the street. he walked up on the side of the journalist, didn't answer their questions. and then keir starmer came out of downing street, met him halfway down the street, a huge hug. and you have to know that prime minister keir starmer is not one that throws

hugs around casually. this meant something. this for president zelenskyy on the rebound from that fractious meeting in the white house. clearly the symbolism, the strength of the symbolism, the way it was coordinated and choreographed, sent to show a very strong message that keir starmer, the british government, the british people. in fact, judging by the cheers that went up outside downing street when when president zelenskyy drove in very, very strong support for president zelenskyy, standing on the steps, taking photographs, not answering the questions. again, handshake after handshake there with the prime minister. so this a very important bilateral meeting for president zelenskyy. it will set up and coordinate what is discussed with the european leaders tomorrow. and i think another important part of the stagecraft, the diplomatic stagecraft that's going on in the uk at the moment. remember just two days ago when keir starmer sat next to president trump, handed him a letter of invitation from king charles to

come to the uk for a meeting? well, guess what? president zelenskyy is going to go to one of king charles's residence here, just outside of london. expected to do that tomorrow, expected to meet and be hosted by king charles the third. that that, again is designed. it appears to show the strength of support by the uk for president zelenskyy at this time. and i think we're going to hear more things coming from government officials here about how they plan to immediately continue to bolster the military support for for ukraine at this time. >> and nick keir starmer, perhaps put on display his posture very early on, even when he was in the oval office. there were a couple times where he actually corrected president trump, saying, no, it's russia that was the aggressor. and then number two, our aid to ukraine has been a gift. there was no condition because president

trump had said, you know, the europeans, you know, essentially got a deal that they're going to be paid back. and starmer corrected him on that, at least from the point of view of the uk. so does that posture, um, speak volumes about what this meeting might be like for zelenskyy today? there at ten downing street? >> i think it does. there are two things to say to about starmer's responses. when he was sitting next to president trump in the oval office. there was a high bar set earlier in the week by emmanuel macron, who had also corrected president trump when again, he said that the europeans were getting were were giving their money to ukraine as a loan. and he was corrected by macron. so in a way, starmer, who was having his first meeting with president trump as president in the white house, really had to measure up, you know, for diplomacy, for political standing, for all of those reasons. but that was and that's what we'll hear from here. it is a very important sign that the uk and europe are

going to find ways to support zelenskyy and have to step up and fill some of the gap that it appears the united states may vacate and may potentially do it in a short space of time. >> all right, nic robertson, thank you so much. outside ten downing street. keep us posted on the meeting there. so before zelenskyy's meeting with trump at the white house yesterday, before it turned acrimonious between these leaders, a bipartisan group of senators right there, meeting with the ukrainian president, all smiles and handshakes there. senators from both parties seem to be very happy to see him and have their meetings with him before zelenskyy made his way to the white house. but then, after zelenskyy's white house meeting with trump, kind of devolved and turned hostile. lawmakers were divided on who was to blame for the meltdown, with republicans rallying around the president and democrats criticizing trump

and vice president vance. >> the president. >> of the united states is a coward. who is vladimir putin's puppet? the vice president of the united states is a rogue and a coward. who is donald trump's puppet. and so what we just witnessed was a meeting in the oval office between two cowardly puppets and a hero. >> somebody asked me, am i. >> embarrassed about trump? >> i have. >> never been more proud of the president. i was. >> very. >> proud of. >> jd vance. >> standing up for our country. we want. >> to be helpful. >> what i. saw in the oval office was disrespectful, and i don't know if we can ever do business with zelenskyy again. >> next hour, i'll be talking to congressman seth moulton to see if he has any different thoughts now that he's had at least one night to think over all that transpired yesterday. joining me right now is margaret talev. she is a senior contributor for

axios and a professor. i always like to add that okay. so margaret, good to see you again. so this this critical response, you know, from senator lindsey graham was immediate. i mean, even before zelenskyy had actually exited the white house. what have you learned about whether any of this immediate trump support was planned or choreographed to make sure that they're all, you know, aligned? >> yeah. >> fred, i think a lot. >> of people. >> are. asking those. >> questions today just because. >> there were so many elements. >> moving so swiftly. >> and. the zelenskyy, you could see. >> the moment. >> with the. >> cameras rolling. >> when he. >> sort of thought, huh, this is not what i thought. >> i was coming to. >> um, but i think it's important to note that for many weeks and months, uh, a lot of long standing, hard gop support for ukraine has been eroding or or at least softening since

donald trump's election. and since we've seen a shift in messaging and polling. and so, you see, folks like you remember, speaker mike johnson was a steadfast, strong supporter, uh, supporter of ukraine and has shifted over a period of time to align more closely with the president's position. folks like senator ron johnson, lindsey graham's move yesterday did surprise many people because he, although very close to trump and strongly allied with him, will sometimes use that strong alliance to take a contradictory posture or to tell the president, i disagree with you, usually on military or national security issues. so that did feel like a big one. um, you know, we did see some republican critics of, of the president on this yesterday, aligning still closely with ukraine, like congressman don bacon of nebraska. we saw congressman brian fitzpatrick say, hey, everyone's emotions are understandable. let's please

come back to the negotiating table. but you cannot overlook the role that american opinion has in all of this. um, two thirds of americans have a favorable opinion of ukraine, but we saw just before the end of the year public opinion flip with now slightly more americans say they want they want the the war to end quickly. um, and i don't know what that means. end quickly and give everything to russia or end quickly and somehow everything will be okay. but that flip in public opinion was driven by republicans saying, we don't support this anymore. and that's what you see reflected here. >> yeah. i mean, this is all taking place just a few days now ahead of the state of the union. um, the the president, you know, republicans seem to be in lockstep, uh, with him. but of course, there's a lot of consternation from, as you mentioned, at least a couple of gop members who are saying, wait a minute. you know, we're still backing, by the way, we're looking at live pictures right now of this meeting between the

prime minister, keir and president zelenskyy there. i don't think are we able to hear it? >> lasting peace for ukraine based on sovereignty. >> we're going to try we're going to try and listen. >> ukraine. um, so important for ukraine, so important for europe and so important for. >> the united kingdom. >> so i'm much looking forward to our discussions here this afternoon. thank you very much for making the time. >> to come. >> we sam lair thank you very much. q. um, mr. prime minister, happy to be here. and really, i saw a lot of people and i want to thank you people of the united kingdom. such big support from the very beginning of this war. thank you. your team. and i'm very happy that, uh, his majesty the king accepted my meeting tomorrow. and i'm thankful that you organize such summit for tomorrow. and we are very happy in ukraine that we have such strategic partners. we

signed with you historic documents. yeah, we have only with you such documents with the united kingdom. so we are happy. and, uh, we count on your support and really, really. really happy that we have such such parties and such friends. fantastic. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. thank you. great. thank you. >> okay. um, so, margaret, i'm not sure if you were able to hear. it is hard to hear, but from. from what we can tell right there. um, president zelenskyy profusely saying thank you to the uk, to the team. and he also is saying thanks. ahead of the meeting with european leaders tomorrow. uh, and of course, keir starmer with his posture there, looking very welcome and excited that that they are going to be moving forward, moving forward with this relationship. i mean, gigantic contrast from what we saw yesterday at the white house. i mean, there's been a lot of evaluation of of what

happened, what's really at the bottom. does it have something to do with the relationship between zelenskyy and and trump that goes, you know, very far back from the phone call, you know, and beyond. is it because trump had said all week that there was going to be a deal? the table was set up, lunch no longer happened, and that perhaps his feathers were ruffled, that, you know, zelenskyy was not going to, you know, sign this deal. i mean, how does the president move forward, especially with the state of the union address coming up on tuesday? does he make reference to relations to what's happening? um, or just as he was about to board a plane last night on his way to florida, he says, you know, you saw what i saw. he's not so certain what kind of support is going to be going by the way of ukraine in the near future. >> yeah, i do think that joint address to congress next tuesday, we're going to hear

president trump articulate his view of the u.s. role in the world and the u.s .'s obligations to allies. uh, but i also think that what's going on certainly appears to be much bigger than him having his feathers ruffled because he thought it was okay for him and the vice president to criticize zelenskyy, but not zelenskyy, to push back so that that seems like it's bigger than that. and, uh, you know, what it certainly looks like is that, um, the president, uh, views these long standing 75 to 80 year post world war ii alliances as no longer necessarily serving his view of the interests of the united states and, uh, and potentially him looking at a couple of superpowers, including the united states, getting to determine their sort of spheres of influence is look at what he said about panama or greenland or canada, for that matter. this is meant to at least broadcast

the idea that he is articulating a view that the u.s. calls the shots that are in the u.s. interest and is not necessarily bound by these decades of expectations and relationships and multilateral alliances. um, how far will he take that? how far will voters let him take it? how far will republicans in congress who believe in those alliances and have believed in them for their entire careers, take it? we don't know. we're in uncharted territory right now, and the reason that so many people around the world are gasping from what they saw yesterday is because it's not just good tv. uh, as the president sort of said yesterday, it could have profound implications for what it means to be an american and for how the world works going forward. >> right. all right, margaret talev, thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> all right. still ahead, investigators have revealed just how long now actor gene hackman was likely dead before he and

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