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>> a global community still trying to process the ramifications of the oval office rumble that's put both of the future of ravaged, war ravaged ukraine and america's role as leader of the free world in serious question. plus, the tariff tightrope the president says he will punish america's largest trading partners in fewer than 12 hours. will he follow through on his plan, even though it would almost surely mean higher prices for the already struggling american consumer? and if i can make it there, i'll make it anywhere. andrew cuomo may be humming some sinatra as he tries to pull off a political comeback in the big apple, four years after resigning from the governor's mansion in disgrace. i'm dana bash. let's go behind the headlines and inside politics. we start with some new developments. president trump just took another shot at

ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy. it happened just moments ago. the commander in chief posted the following on social media. quote. this guy doesn't want there to be peace as long as he has america's backing. and europe, in the meeting they had with zelenskyy, stated flatly that they cannot do the job without the u.s. probably not a great statement to have been made in terms of a show of strength against russia. what are they thinking now? the president was responding to zelenskyy's comments that the end of the war between ukraine and russia is still, quote, very far, very, very far away to varies there. he also wrote, america will not be put, america will not put up with this much longer. cnn is covering this from all angles. chief global affairs correspondent matthew chance is in moscow, but we are going to start at the white house with jeff zeleny. jeff, can you explain a little bit more about this escalation that

is on top of, of course, all of the escalations that we've seen, starting with friday? >> dana, it's the latest sign that temperatures have not cooled at all since friday afternoon during your show. when that meeting went entirely off the rails in the oval office with the biggest diplomatic breakdown that anyone certainly has seen in the television era. and the president posting just a short time ago, america not will not put up with this for much longer. that is a bit of an ultimatum, signaling the fact that it raises a lot of questions. one question is will the u.s. withdraw its military assistance? officials say that that and everything else is on the table. the president actually was asked that by reporters as we saw him leave the white house on friday night. he says, i will not answer that, but made clear it was on the table. so now, as we begin a new week here, after a weekend of european leaders rallying around vladimir zelenskyy, the white

house is not backing down at all. they are still ramping up their criticism of his conduct, of his behavior. and the president here was reacting to really the events of the weekend, as well as what he believes is zelenskyy's insistence that he does not want this war to end. that, of course, is not the full picture. the full picture is how it would end, how peace talks would begin. a security agreement is still not been something that this white house is willing to discuss. so never mind the fact that friday began as the as the idea of opening the door to signing a deal with ukraine that is not even being discussed now. it's about a continuing u.s. involvement in protecting ukraine. dana, this was intended to be this deal was intended to be one of the centerpieces of the president's joint address to a joint session of congress tomorrow evening. that, of course, is out the window. but clearly he is keeping up this pressure and criticism, trying to put all the blame on

zelenskyy and the ukraine side, as opposed to sort of answering any of the criticism that was at the u.s. side, at least partially to blame for this. the white house is giving no inch on that. dana. >> all right, jeff, thank you to you. and now over to you, matthew in moscow. i can't imagine the way that they are feeling right now. they probably can't believe their luck. >> well, yeah, i think that. certainly privately. >> that's what that's. >> what must be being considered in the corridors of. power here. but, you know, look, one one russian official called it historic at the time. and i think that's a sort of sign of, you know, the, you know, how how they saw this, this furious exchange in the oval office as a sort of illustration of a much broader shift that president trump has taken, shifting away from ukraine, but also shifting away from the western allies and towards russia. and that's something that the russians are

sort of very anxious to sort of encourage as much as possible in terms of the specifics about the the incident will the kremlin was very slow to comment, actually. i suppose it didn't really need to. it just sort of sat back and watched it all unfold. but, you know, within the past sort of day, there's been a first reaction from the spokesperson for, for for putin. putin himself hasn't said anything. and, and he basically agreed entirely with those talking points coming from the trump white house saying that, you know, zelenskyy doesn't want peace. that's exactly, of course, what trump just said. um, zelenskyy showed a complete lack of diplomatic ability. at the very least. other russian officials, of course, reflected that idea that it was zelenskyy alone who was disrespectful in that meeting in the oval office. and, uh, peskov, the spokesperson, agreeing with trump that, um, russia is the one that's ready for negotiations. and the key if regime, as they call the ukrainian authorities, are the

ones that are not. i think that, you know, behind the scenes, um, what what the russians are hoping for is that while president trump and zelenskyy are at odds with each other, that very difficult negotiation to try and bring an end to the conflict in ukraine is going to be put on the back burner, and the two countries can focus on a whole raft of economic deals that are being discussed behind, behind closed doors. in talks that began in riyadh. what was it last month now and which will continue to be discussed between various russian officials in the weeks and possibly even the days ahead? dana. >> all right. thank you so much, matthew, and thank you to you, jeff, as well. i want to turn now to a very talented group of reporters with me here at the table today. cnn's manu raju, carl hulse of the new york times, and jasmine wright of notice. it is your birthday. happy birthday. >> happy birthday. >> spending it with us on this bright and cheery monday. just to go back to what president

trump said in that post that just came out right before our program started, saying that he doesn't believe that vladimir zelenskyy wants peace. and i want to pull up what the kremlin spokesman said about vladimir zelenskyy, because it's very similar. the kyiv regime and zelenskyy do not want peace. they want the war to continue. >> it's pretty remarkable. >> i mean, i think we're starting to see this ramp up of pressure from the trump world that they want zelenskyy out, or at least they certainly don't support him staying in. and i was actually struck by even what the national security advisor, mike wallace, told you just yesterday about that, suggesting that, you know, churchill, comparing to how churchill stepped aside as they tried to negotiate peace post world war two. >> talking points, that i want to get to that in a second. but what do you make of the talking points? continue to run sort of in mirror image of one another

from the kremlin and the leader of the free world? >> it is pretty remarkable. and it's one that's going to cause a lot of concern among key elements of his own party. we saw some one member speaking out this weekend, senator lisa murkowski, saying it makes her sick to her stomach that it appears that donald trump is aligning himself more and more with with putin. the question for me, too, is that how much does this impact the leverage and the ultimate negotiations to end this war, in the sense that russia does not have to give up a whole lot? now, they may actually be this may actually prolong the war. why would they need to actually cut a deal here if u.s. is not going to stand behind ukraine at this key moment? so for russia, this is great news for them because they could ultimately get a lot more than what they would ultimately. >> advisers and members of his administration, uh, and also his top allies on capitol hill this

weekend trying to, um, thread a needle that i'm not so sure is is credible, frankly, which is which is saying, on the one hand that this is all about ukraine and it's all in ukraine's. uh, ball's in ukraine's court. they don't hold the cards. and on the other hand, you had the house speaker tell me in my question to him was basically, what do you think of vladimir putin? listen to his response. >> putin is the aggressor. it is an unjust war. we have been crystal clear about that. but now is the time to bring it to an end. i think vladimir putin is a an old school communist, a former kgb agent. he's not to be trusted and he is dangerous. the way i view this is that china, russia, iran and north korea are engaged in a new axis. axis powers, and they are not on america's side. let's be crystal clear about that. >> so you can almost see him trying to keep the train on tracks on the most fundamental

question, which is who is the u.s. aligned with right now? is it the good guys, or is it the bad guys to put it in really elementary terms? he's trying to say, no, no, no, he's still a bad guy. but that doesn't seem to be where the policy is headed right now in these really difficult negotiations. >> super hard. >> for people. >> on the hill after years and. years of being anti-russian, anti-putin. now they're. >> having to make. >> this shift. >> johnson himself was kind of interesting. >> we had this story over the weekend. you know, it's like he had. >> supported this. >> put his. >> job on the line. >> and now it's. >> like, well, i. >> only did about that. >> yeah, i only did that because of course i wanted to get to this point. well, i don't remember that being a big. >> part of the discussion. >> at that time. >> i think that, you know, for people like mitch. >> mcconnell, this is just anathema. but there's a lot. >> of people. who share that view. >> i don't. >> think that they're going to. >> be out there. >> pushing it. >> but how they deal.

>> with this putin question. >> and that you. >> start to see marco rubio. people like, wait, wait, this is. >> what we voted for. marco rubio for. he was we thought. >> he was. >> going to be the. >> sort of common sense. >> person in the administration. >> this is our position. >> you know, and everything with trump is a negotiation. >> so it's hard. >> to tell kind of what he's doing. >> here, but he. >> has not. i don't normally say that trump is a unifying figure, but he has unified europe against us. and that's. >> interesting to watch. >> but by the way, by the way, when when johnson says we have been crystal clear that putin has been the aggressor, the united states voted against a united nations resolution saying that. >> days ago. >> didn't just abstain, voted no. yes. yeah. um, i want to go back to what you were referring to, which is just back on the global stage and what the maneuvering really is behind the scenes and in public. um, inside the trump administration vis a vis trying to potentially just push zelenskyy out. listen to the exchange i had with the president's national security

adviser. are you suggesting that president trump wants zelenskyy to resign? >> we need a leader. >> that can. >> deal with us. >> eventually. >> deal with the russians and. >> end this war. >> uh. >> and if it becomes apparent that president zelenskyy. >> either personal motivations or political. motivations or divergent from ending the fighting. >> in his. >> country, uh, then then i think we have a real issue on our hands. >> yeah. >> i was in the south lawn on friday when president. >> trump was. >> asked by reporters, just a reporter to my shoulder said, do you want zelenskyy to step down? do you basically want a regime change? and the president seemed kind of hesitant to go that far. he said, i want somebody who can make peace. if that is zelenskyy, fine. if that's not, then, you know, maybe we have to go somewhere else. but he didn't want to go that far. but i think that his answer really answered the floodgates for the rest of the trump administration to double down and start pushing further and further on this fact that maybe zelenskyy should not be the person that is leading in

ukraine. i think one thing that is very, very evident is that any of the republicans who, uh, are more globally minded, more defense hawks, this idea that the temperature would be taken down over the weekend, that has basically gone by the wayside. what the reality is, is that the energy inside the white house is shifting. they are doubling down on this position. they are doubling down on basically being against zelenskyy. and i think even more importantly, the maga base is doubling down on it. they were already people who were kind of moving against foreign aid, not kind of really moving against fawn. >> were there? >> yeah, they were there moving against funding, um, wars in different parts of the globe. and they kind of just kind of were sucking it up because this is a deal that trump wanted to make. now that it seems that this deal is not going to happen, you're going to you're seeing maga people kind of revel in the fact that we don't want to be a part of this, and donald trump shouldn't be a part of it either. >> the anti ukraine wing of the gop used to be so small, right? remember when zelenskyy came and addressed a joint session of

congress not too long ago, standing and cheering both sides of the aisle? and it was the matt gaetz, marjorie taylor greene's of the world on that contingent. it is much bigger now. and as exemplified by lindsey graham being at the white house, speaking out against zelenskyy just on friday. >> no question. as we go to break, i just want to emphasize and underscore where we started this program, which is that, as you said, the president is doubling down, tripling down on the tense relationship and on the notion that they are kind of done with zelenskyy saying america will not put up with it much longer, really. um, big development in a series of. monumental developments coming up, president trump is threatening to impose new tariffs on two american allies as soon as tomorrow. will he follow through this time? we'll discuss after a break. >> when it comes to rooting out corruption, do the fbi's ends justify the means?

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economy with lower consumer confidence, less consumer spending, higher layoffs. the economy may actually be shrinking this quarter, according to one forecast from the federal reserve. there's still a lot of uncertainty of what these tariffs would look like. and the president's commerce secretary, howard lutnick lutnick, didn't do much to clear up what is going to happen and what it would even be when it comes to those tariffs on mexico and canada. >> year round, telling them all the details. but then he's going to decide this afternoon. and tomorrow we're going to put out those tariffs. he's going to decide. today. we're going to put it out tomorrow. there's not a lot of uncertainty to tomorrow. but he knows they've done a good job on the border. they haven't done enough on fentanyl. let's see how the president weighs that today. we're going to talk about it all day today. and then he'll let everybody know tomorrow what the plan is. >> my panel is back. they got him right where they want him. jack. yeah. they're going to talk about it all day today, as. >> well as doing speech prep as well as figuring out ukraine. they have a lot of things on

their plate. >> or just to wait to see what trump may actually. >> do. >> you know, i think it's interesting because we've been here before. obviously, there was so much to do about tariffs in the first five or so days. they went down on they went back on it. they said, okay, let's actually give them a month. we know that there are people very close to donald trump. the treasury secretary, some of the deputy chiefs of staff who want more narrow tariffs, who feel like it would have a more harmful impact than what trump wants to do. obviously, he says it's, you know, maybe his third or fourth favorite word of all time. trump does the word tariff. but it really is. wait and see. i don't think that there's a clear idea of whether or not these are going to come, or how impactful they are. but the reality is, is that trump is itching to get these in place. he talks about it constantly. he talks about how good it will be for the country. he talks about how misunderstood tariffs are. and so i think that it really is in some ways donald trump trying to bring his administration to the point where they can put tariffs in place. we'll see if it actually happens now. but

certainly trump wants to do this. we just don't know how far or how wide. and if it actually. >> happens, there is no one who does not believe that the concept of tariffs, which he has talked about since, like he came out of the womb, i think he has always been consistent on he. >> loves tariffs. >> um, how that clashes with the reality of his economy right now. and it's just a in a place where consumers are really struggling. let's look at a couple of new polls. this is just broadly cnn's poll that came out this morning. trump policies will move the u.s. in the wrong direction, 45% right direction, 39%. that's not so great. npr. question was specifically about the economy. the total question that he's moving it for the better, 42%. worse 46%. so that's a bit more split. but this is the, um, the ball that we have to keep our eye on. >> yeah. i mean, in that same cnn poll said that a majority of

voters did not believe that trump had his eye on the ball on the right priority. the main pressing problem for the country. and trump got elected to lower prices. so this starts to increase prices, which pretty much every economist believes that it would will trump back off. which is why perhaps he howard lutnick was a little cagey about what exactly trump will do, because. >> maybe he doesn't know. >> maybe he generally doesn't know. maybe trump will delay it. i will be interested to see tomorrow at the speech how republicans will react if trump starts boasting about tariffs. you know, one person who has not said a whole lot about it is john thune, the senate majority leader, whose state of south dakota could get hit pretty hard. >> egg tariffs are hard. i am glad that they have such a well planned and thought out. >> long term strategy. >> they sound like us. >> we all. we got to decide. >> this at the last minute, right? >> uh, republicans. >> are nervous. >> about this. because this was. >> always going. >> to be a problem for them. they're talking down. >> biden's economy. >> biden's economy was actually good, right? this was the problem that biden was having, getting across the point that.

>> you know, things weren't that bad, the. markets were good. >> but people weren't feeling it. >> but people did not feel it. >> but they're also they want. >> but they. >> wanted trump to. >> make them feel better. >> right. this was the whole idea. we're going to lower. >> gas prices. >> we're going to get eggs, you know, which would become the big new economic barometer. we're going to get the price down. >> and it's not happening. >> and this is what makes republicans nervous because they're already. >> getting blowback. >> at these town halls. and they can say it's planned or whatnot, but they're they're starting. >> to feel it. >> and that's over these job cuts. >> and they're going to hear it about the economy. things were supposed. >> to get better with trump. >> and they're not. he keeps pulling. >> back on these tariffs. i think the. >> china one. >> is interesting to watch because. china hasn't been as coming to trump as much as canada and mexico. so maybe they're going to take a whack there. >> let's talk about the sort of theatrics and the scene that everybody is going to be covering tomorrow night on capitol hill when trump comes back. it's not a state of the union. it's a joint address to

congress. some democrats are already saying, i'm out. i'm not going. chris murphy of connecticut is one of them. >> i think that state of the union speech is going to be a farce. i think it's going to be a maga pep rally, not a serious talk to the nation. i think donald trump is going to spew a series of lies. a lot of democrats think maybe you should, you know, fight every third day. you should reserve your power and jump out of the bushes at the right moment. i just think that we have to be on the offensive 24 seven. >> and on this speech, specifically, nancy pelosi, the former speaker, said any demonstration of disagreement, whether it's visual or whatever, just let him stew in his own juice. don't be any grist for the mill to say that was inappropriate. well, she is definitely speaking from experience. >> well. >> tearing up the speech. >> that was about. >> as risky. >> as you could get. what she did. >> i think. >> democrats are going to do all sorts of things right. we're already hearing a lot of them

are bringing, uh, fired, uh, federal workers in. right. so they're going to showcase those. some people will boycott, some people will they will sit on their hands. i think. >> you know. >> this is the classic, uh, every man for himself, in a way, is how they're going to respond. i think people will go, though, because i don't think they want to give him a free pass. you know, as he gives this speech. >> yeah. and look, this is the democratic leadership is going to be counseling what nancy pelosi said not to create any outbursts. that changes the whole narrative. that gives them something to talk about. can they do that? can democrats restrain themselves? that's going to be a big question. i do think chris murphy is very interesting to hear, because he is becoming the outspoken leader of the left and the resistance, wanting to fight tooth and nail and pretty much everything. that's just not where the democratic leaders are right now. they are in the pick and choose moment, and in some ways they're getting criticized from the left for not being as aggressive in fighting the trump agenda. >> yeah, i was going to say that, you know, i think where democratic leadership is, is not where the rest of the voters

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ultimately testified before congress. you see it there. he is now the author of a new book, the folly of realism how the west deceived itself about russia and betrayed ukraine. and joins me now with the latest. wow, this could not be more timely. this book coming out. alex, thank you for being here. uh, i just want to start with you where we started the program, which is another escalation by president trump when it comes to zelenskyy. this statement on his social media, this is the worst statement that could have been made by zelenskyy. and this is the key. and america will not put up with it for much longer. and again, the statement he was referring to was zelenskyy saying that we could be very far away from a ceasefire deal. >> i think. >> trump is doubling. >> down on regime. >> change. >> not talking about putin. >> the biden. >> administration. >> right. >> or wrong day late dollar short, called putin a dictator. >> they're now. >> talking about a regime change in.

>> ukraine. >> our ally. >> and not the inveterate enemy that has threatened. >> us with nuclear. >> weapons. >> that has been aggressively attacking us internally here. and it's a shocking turn of events that this is an administration that is in. line. according to the russians and according to the kremlin's own statements, with. their policies, their views of the world are converging. and breaking. burning bridges as soon as they. >> get to them with our allies. >> it's can you talk? you said regime change. what you're referring to is the pressure. mike waltz did it with me on state of the union yesterday. we're hearing it elsewhere. the pressure on zelenskyy to resign. that's what you're referring to. >> that's exactly what i'm referring to. i think, you know, lindsey graham. mentioned it. >> almost immediately afterwards. >> then it got picked up. >> by the white house. marco rubio kind of alluded. >> to something similar. mike waltz these are supposed to be the, the. >> the adults. >> in the second administration. i mean, they're all, you know. sycophants to a certain extent. they knew when they were signing. up they.

>> would have. >> to bend over backwards. >> to not. >> just do what the president wants. >> but kind. >> of, you know, suck. >> up to him. >> so they're there. >> in order to. >> do that, they need to go ahead and and. >> the person that somehow. >> slighted him, zelenskyy, who. >> is in. >> that room to. >> sign a. >> deal. >> a deal that. >> both he and president trump wanted but was. not in a position to look weak. >> why? >> because he's a leader of. >> a nation. >> at war. he is talking to his own troops. >> on the. >> on the ground. don't think he had any choice but to push back. >> he had no choice to. >> push back on the. >> most egregious developments that occurred in that meeting. >> it wasn't just. >> the fact that, you know, president trump was looking for a thank you. >> it wasn't just the fact that. >> um, you know, zelenskyy had to to pander. >> um. >> like or. >> flatter, like. >> you know, the other western diplomats that have come through because they know that's an effective way to communicate it. >> the reason he. >> pushed back is because. >> trump was saying. >> or just said that zelenskyy was a dictator. >> he was saying that. russia

was not the. >> aggressor. >> and zelenskyy. >> had just finished showing him pictures of troops that were being abused, the p.o.w.s. >> and talked about. >> 20,000 children that were kidnaped. he could not accept a situation in which this the narrative was completely changing. and he's the leader of a country that's the subject of those attacks. he had no choice. >> and it's sort of, i don't know, in a vacuum or just generally speaking, you're okay with this minerals deal? the economic deal? sure. do you think that zelenskyy is right to demand security guarantees along with it from the u.s.? >> i think what he's trying to do is, you know what the subtitle of the book says. he wants to make sure that the u.s. doesn't continue to deceive itself about russia and doesn't continue to betray ukraine. the only lasting peace for ukraine is one in which there are some sort of security guarantees on the back end that the europeans, that the u.s. is going to be there to ensure that russia doesn't take a pause and re-invade. why? because russia has broken a score of different agreements that had with ukraine at various times over the course of 30 plus years. that's the

only thing that prevents a spiraling of the relationship, um, further down the road. and he he knows that. so i don't think he was absolutely set on getting a deal then, but he wanted it to be a topic of discussion. mainly he was holding his ground, defending the narrative that russians are their aggressors. ukraine is defending itself. >> yeah, which shouldn't be up for discussion. but. but it is. thank you so much. it's good to see you. the folly of realism. this is alexander vindman book. terrific. thank you for being here. >> thanks for having. >> me on. coming up, what's old is new again? there is a familiar face getting into the race to be the mayor of new york city. and the question is, are voters ready for a cuomo comeback? >> have i got news for you is back. >> let's think of some. >> new games to play. what do. >> you got? >> yes, yes. something like, uh. >> oh. what if. >> it's. >> uh, keep.

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in several scandals in the last year. now he also enters the race with very high negatives, mainly the sexual harassment scandal that resulted in his resignation in 2021. his handling of the covid pandemic, which has been subject of state and federal investigations. there's also the $5 million book deal that he got while the pandemic was happening, which raised serious ethical questions. and then, of course, there's the ten year record of his time as governor. and that is what opponents are pouncing on since this weekend, when he officially made his campaign announcement. he's already gotten some endorsements. congressman richie torres is endorsing him for mayor. he's also got some union support here in new york city. so the question is whether those challengers are going to be able to effectively remind new yorkers of the voter of the the

record that he had while he was in office. this whole idea that new york city is in crisis right now. his opponents say part of the reason why the city is in crisis is because of policies that went into effect when he was in office. so we'll see if that actually translates to the voters. despite the scandals and despite his time out of office, some of the early polling in this race shows that cuomo is still very popular among residents here in new york city. >> yeah. i mean, if you're running in new york city to be mayor and the entire, uh, the entire message, at least at the beginning, is i want to make the city more livable for you. and safer. um, you know, that's going to be interesting to see the opponents try to push back on. thank you. gloria, i'm sure we're going to be talking a lot about this over the next several months. and coming up, health secretary robert kennedy jr. is weighing in on the measles vaccine amid an outbreak in texas. you're going to want to hear what he has to say about

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panel is back. i mean, so i'm not really sure what he's saying. there. honestly, which maybe is the point. >> well, this is. >> the difference between being the outside agitator and being in charge of something and having some accountability. you know, a kid died right from from measles and. >> who wasn't vaccinated, right. >> and this is, you. >> know, not something that happens a lot in the united states, uh, in. recent decades. so i think, you know, he's trying to show that, hey, you know, go get vaccination, but also keeping his option open, that he's skeptical of vaccines. but i think, you know, he. promised those senators and especially, uh, one in particular, bill cassidy, you know, that he was going to be doing the right things on vaccines. and i think he's trying to figure that out. >> and, jasmine, you know, talk to rfk, junior's allies and they will tell you, um, they've said to me many times, you know, all the democrats talked about during the confirmation hearings

is the measles, and no one is talking about the measles. and then here we are. you know, just like days into his tenure. yeah. and there is an actual measles outbreak. so he does have to, um, toe this line. >> yeah. there's going to be a test. i mean, this is a test for him. and i think you kind of see him really talking out both sides of his mouth. on one side, he's saying, you know, that vaccines are important. the other side, he's saying it's a personal choice. one side, he's saying that they help the community, the other side, the other. in that same op-ed he says, you know, but vitamin a is also something that people can take for their immune systems. and so i think he's really trying to walk a fine line here, not angering the base that brought him to this point. the base that is very energized, that is kind of hanging on both his and now trump's every word when it comes to vaccines. um, but also knowing that he has a duty to try to minimize, at minimum, this outbreak and any other outbreak that could come. >> you mentioned senator bill

cassidy. he's a medical doctor from louisiana. he saved rfk junior's nomination by saying that he would vote yes and got some promises from rfk jr.. unanue spoke to senator cassidy within the last few days. let's watch. >> i will watch carefully for any effort to wrongfully sow public fear about vaccines. between confusing references of coincidence and anecdote. >> i'm very concerned about. >> the measles outbreak. >> and so. >> um, and. >> i'm strongly encouraging. >> people to get vaccinated. the vaccine is safe. they need to speak to their physician. >> should rfk say that, though? should rfk? >> i think everybody should. >> emphasize that. the. >> that seems to happen. >> a lot. >> especially these days. you know, he is in a difficult spot. he gave that vote that essentially if he voted no. rfk jr.. would not have been the hhs secretary. he is facing reelection. he is facing a republican primary. he's already been targeted by the right

because of his vote to convict donald trump in the second impeachment trial. he's also a medical doctor. he knows full well how important vaccines are in his. and the way that rfk jr.. danced around that during the confirmation hearings, gave him a lot of pause, gave him a lot of concerns. and rfk jr. did commit to him about that. they would he would not try to undermine vaccines. and i've been asking him repeatedly about some of these early actions, whether it was rfk jr.. initially downplaying the vaccines in that cabinet meeting and also the cancellation of these meetings about including. >> i'm glad you brought that up. >> and there's it's unclear what. >> is an outside advisory group. at the fda. >> yeah. and look, if so, those kind of actions continue to be a pattern. perhaps you'll see them not running into an elevator, maybe running to the cameras and speaking out in opposition. >> yeah. i mean, boy, this is just the beginning of many more conversations about this. it's great to see you all. happy birthday. thank you. thank you again for spending it with us.

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