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looking for a reboot on relations. u.s. and ukrainian officials agreeing to meet in the near future as washington pauses weapons shipments and intelligence sharing with kyiv. what this means for the battlefield and. >> what led to the death of actor gene hackman. investigators are now saying it was not a gas leak that killed the hollywood legend. we're following these major developing stories and many more, all coming in right here to cnn news central. >> this just in to cnn. the white house says that after discussions with the big three automakers, it will make a one month exemption on tariffs on any autos from mexico and canada. meantime, we're learning new details about today's call between president trump and canadian prime minister justin trudeau. the prime minister's office says the two leaders spoke for 50 minutes, had a, quote, constructive conversation and might speak again later today. president trump, though,

had a very different take, posting that canada's efforts on drug trafficking are, quote, not good enough and saying, quote. the call ended in a somewhat friendly manner. he then blamed canada's policies for the fentanyl deaths in the united states. cnn's jeff zeleny is live for us outside the white house. jeff, a lot of suspense surrounding this call. questions about whether they may be a call later on today. what are you hearing about it from sources inside the white house. >> look, boris, we know that they talked this morning for a little bit under an hour. and that, of course, the trade war was one of the examples. but the president, in a separate series of phone calls, that actually is a bit more pressing, really underscoring this, this whiplash on tariffs. he announced that he is putting a one month reprieve on u.s. automakers ford, general motors and stellantis for any goods that they get from canada and mexico. of course, the prime minister of canada was concerned about that, but he's concerned about all goods and the the broader scope of tariffs. so

it's a little bit unclear if anything actually developed from that call with the prime minister. but something definitely did with the automakers. and this is the second straight day that the president has spoken with the automakers. really, the white house has been fielding just a series of calls from business leaders, republican lawmakers and others sounding the alarm about what this could do to the economy. and we saw what it's been doing to the stock market. but the white house press secretary explained it like this. >> well, the president did just put out a statement on his call with the governor, justin trudeau, as he calls him of canada. and he said that he was not pleased, as you said. he said it's not good enough. he told prime minister justin trudeau that directly. the call ended in a somewhat friendly manner, as the president said, but he's not going to stop standing up for the american people. so i think for folks on wall street who may be concerned, look at what this president did for you in his first term. wall street boomed. the stock market boomed. the president expects that to happen again. but most importantly, main street is going to boom.

and that's why the president has this whole of government economic approach, which includes tax cuts, tariffs, regulation cuts and an energy industry that will bring down costs for american consumers. >> so the white house press secretary, downplaying the exact role that the stock market or the fall in financial in financial markets more broadly had on the president's decision. but there's no question we know this is a metric the president watches very, very carefully. so that is why we are told a one month reprieve was indeed put in place. the broader question is why one month? what can companies do over a month to sort of change how they're doing business? that is sort of unclear. but another wave of tariffs, those reciprocal tariffs are scheduled to go into effect in april. now of course we are seeing a pattern really week by week. and now month by month of the president threatening tariffs. and then issuing them. and then in this case at least issuing a temporary reprieve. we'll see what the markets say.

>> boris jeff zeleny from the white house. thank you so much. it looks like markets are slightly up today. we'll see where they land before the closing bell. brianna. >> businesses in america, canada and mexico are scrambling to figure out how to deal with the new trump tariffs. and last night, president trump suggested he might hit other countries with tariffs as well whatever they tariff us, other countries, we will tariff them. >> tariffs are about making america rich again and making america great again. and it's happening and it will happen rather quickly. >> many americans are speaking out against the trump tariffs. here's what one pennsylvania voter told cnn. >> i don't think that he understands how tariffs might be inflationary. and i think that he did not spend nearly enough time talking about what we're experiencing right now. >> joining us now is damian paletta, washington bureau chief for the wall street journal. and

damian, we did just hear karoline leavitt white house press secretary announcing this one month exemption for the big three automakers. but it was really interesting because the news actually broke on our show as boris was talking to an auto dealer who i think he was glad that it had been put off, but he seemed to be approaching it like a stay of execution, like, okay, great. well, it's still on the calendar. what do you think of this. >> exactly? we're having this month by month thing now where tariffs are going to go into effect and he pumps the brakes then again. and now there's more tariffs that are supposed to start in april. so he keeps doing this. markets are very unsettled i think trump likes having people on edge and uncertain about what he's going to do next. but as we saw this this week, the market fell over 1000 points. that is something he watches very closely. yesterday we had howard lutnick, the commerce secretary, come in to try to talk markets back up. today they were a little all over the place and now they're up 300 points just on the karoline leavitt statement. so clearly the market is hanging on every development. and this is probably going to continue into the spring and summer.

>> the uaw praised these tariffs yesterday. right. they have fought to keep auto jobs in the u.s. they say tariffs help undo some of the things that damaged auto workers from these trade deals that they feel certainly were not fair. do they have a point? >> they have a really interesting point. however, a lot of these cars are made because of the usmca, the new new nafta that was passed during the first trump administration. these cars are actually made in all three countries. some parts are made in mexico, some parts are made in canada, and some parts are made in the u.s. so it's it's not like you can just say, okay, we're going to put a plant in indiana or ohio and make the whole car there. that's not how it works. it would take years for that to happen. that is what trump wants, though. he wants companies to invest billions of dollars in these plants. but to the point that some of these companies are making is, look, our german competitors don't face these tariffs because they don't make cars in canada and mexico. so we're at a big disadvantage. so if you're thinking like a car dealer, buy your car in the next month before prices go up in april. >> yeah. and this fight that they're having a legal basis for it is over fentanyl. talk to us a little bit about this. because

even as trump is saying, canada is not doing good enough when it comes to fentanyl, like less than half a pound was seized at the northern border in the month of january. it is minuscule compared to what's happening at the southern border. >> that's right. i mean, actually, his his rationale changes a bit kind of every time he talks about it. obviously, he's very committed to tariffs for the sake of tariffs. you know bringing jobs back the fentanyl. >> so then do you think it's just kind of bs well he says fentanyl. >> i think fentanyl gives him kind of almost a legal rationale to impose it. but i think the canadians are throwing up their hands saying what else do you want us to do? they said they were going to appoint a fentanyl czar, someone who's just going to be in charge of, as you said, this kind of half pound or whatever. i don't think they know what they need to do. and obviously, trudeau is kind of on shaky political ground in canada. and president trump knows that and is trying to make the most of it. >> that czar would have to diversify their portfolio. that's what's clear. they're going to need some other work to do. okay. so then what does canada really need to do to make him happy? >> i don't think there's anything they can do to make him

happy. quite frankly, i think what he wants is american companies to say they're going to build plants. one of the things that he said during the speech tuesday night was that honda is actually, instead of putting a plant like a $4 billion plant in mexico, they're going to put it in indiana to make a hybrid civic. that's exactly the kind of announcement he wants from other companies. that's american jobs. and so by dangling these tariffs out there and threatening them, if he can bring more jobs back to the american people, that's a win for him politically and economically. >> there was something i wonder if it stood out to you that he said last night in his joint address, where he addressed farmers who could be hurt by retaliatory tariffs, tariffs on things that they need right in the course of their work, he said to bear with me, right. he seemed to be imploring them, hang in there, he said. there will be a little disturbance in his first term. farmers, we should note, actually got a $28 billion buyout. they got relief from tariffs. is that going to happen again where he essentially like buys off the damage. >> it's interesting that he already knows that storm is coming. and yes i believe

because the other countries are smart particularly china. they know how to retaliate on tariffs. and they will go right after the farmers, especially in red states, on the products that u.s. farmers export. so he knows it's coming. i would expect, yes, to see billions of dollars potentially flowing from the federal government into these farmers to keep them satisfied while he gets these tariffs sorted out, because it's likely going to be something politically that's a real headache for republicans. >> yeah. certainly is. all right, damien, always great to have your insights. thank you so much. boris. >> this just in the trump administration is planning to cut more than 70,000 jobs at the department of veterans affairs. that's according to an internal memo obtained by cnn. it says the cuts are in partnership with the department of government efficiency, or doge, and they'll move aggressively to restructure the va and resize the workforce. we're finding this out as elon musk is on capitol hill attending a senate republican lunch later today. he is set to meet with house republicans amid the growing concerns over mass layoffs of federal employees and budget cuts and the impacts

they're going to have. cnn's manu raju is live for us on capitol hill. manu, what are you hearing from lawmakers? >> yeah, those meetings are happening right now. in fact, some senators are beginning to spill out after meeting for about an hour with elon musk behind closed doors, about everything that he has been undertaking with doge, those cuts that have been happening across federal agencies, the court cases that have been stopping some of those cuts. questions about the legality of it, the federal firings that have been pushed by elon musk and the impacts that it is having on a number of these senators states. these concerns have been about not just about what elon musk is doing, but how he is doing it. one of the big questions and complaints coming in to this meeting is about the process ensuring that they understand what elon musk is doing. and i'm told behind closed doors, that is exactly what these senators discussed with elon musk. how to improve their communication. it didn't sound like it was a particularly contentious meeting, but it was one more about just how he is going about pushing ahead on these cuts. and he indicated to senators, i'm told that he wants to work more closely with

them. he apparently gave out his cell phone number, according to a person familiar with the matter. to these senators. so so they can reach out to him with any concerns that may be that they may have. so it shows you that he is trying to at least work the inside game a bit, winning over members of congress who may be concerns about the process, but it's unclear how much of the substance they got into in this closed door meeting. boris. >> manu, when it comes to president trump's address last night, we saw a variety of reactions from democratic lawmakers and some democrats were reacting to those reactions today. and they spoke with you. some of them were disappointed. >> yeah, because last night, the democratic leaders had hoped that their members would constrain themselves to an extent that they did agree overall, that they would not applaud donald trump. they didn't really stand for him at all, which is a bit of a breach of protocol in the in these kind of speeches. but the other things that members did, they held up signs in protest. they yelled out, out a lot of

democrats yelling out, you lie or you're lying or saying things to that nature which typically has not done and has done pretty frequently in last night's address. and of course, that moment with al green, the congressman from texas, who stood for several minutes yelling at donald trump. ultimately, he was escorted out of the chamber. now, house republicans are trying to move to censure al green as soon as today. and i asked democrats about these antics. is that the message that they wanted to send to the american public? and some top senate democrats said it was not. >> i wouldn't have necessarily done all the things that were done, but i understand the emotion he's offering showmanship and bluster and bullying. we need to provide real solutions and avoid taking the bait. >> there wasn't any conscious strategy, you know, in terms of responding to that speech. i think there are better ways to do it. stick with the basics. >> look, i believe firmly that that should be a room of decorum. now, that said, i've never seen a speech before where a president trolls, heckles,

demeans and degrades people actually sitting in front of him. >> and a vote to censure al green could happen as soon as this afternoon. democrats are going to try to kill that measure. it could happen later on this afternoon. whether they have the votes to do that remains to be seen. as republicans are eager to punish him for that outburst. boris. >> now we'll see what happens. manu raju live for us on capitol hill. thank you so much. still to come, the trump administration is halting its intelligence sharing with ukraine. how the move could impact ukraine's ability to defend itself against russia. plus, the latest on the investigation into gene hackman death. how one theory is being ruled out as a possible cause. and later, we're following a massive and deadly storm as it moves across the eastern united states that are much more coming up on cnn news central. don't go anywhere. >> twitter. breaking the bird premieres sunday at ten on cnn. >> did they just hop from a baseball game to a show on max

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>> president trump said as he asked for a pause in this case as as everyone saw play out. president trump had a real question about whether president zelenskyy was committed to the peace process. and he said, let's pause. i want to give you a chance to think about that. >> cnn chief international security correspondent nick paton walsh is in kyiv following all of these developments from there. nick, tell us what these pauses mean for ukraine. >> well, i've got to tell you, in short, brianna, every morning the situation seems to get slightly worse for ukrainians. there had been a feeling that 24 hours ago, when the first reports of u.s. military aid being stopped, that intelligence sharing might continue. this morning, that was crushed. but also remember, too, the hope had been that, given the positive tone in which president trump spoke of president zelenskyy in the letter that he had sent to him, that parts of which he sort of paraphrased or read out during that speech, suggesting, as trump had demanded, that they wanted to sign the rare earth minerals deal at a time convenient to the white house,

that they want to commit to peace. and indeed, how zelenskyy had in previous messages during the day on social media and in the video, talked about how the oval office meeting, which many ukrainians think frankly, was a public drubbing of their president, how zelenskyy had expressed how that was regrettable, that perhaps that had been enough to calm things, to get the relationship back on track. now we are hearing from his chief of staff, andriy yermak, here in kyiv, that there is potentially a meeting between the american and ukrainian teams coming forward. but the idea that this morning key security members of trump's cabinet have gone forward and said in differing ways, well, look, the information intelligence sharing that is paused to see whether or not things will improve. ratcliffe suggesting he thinks it may be restored soon. and then mike waltz, the national security advisor, going a little further and suggesting the pause might be sustained until they have greater clarity that kyiv signs up to specific peace talks. the big question here is the white house have not been specific about what kind of peace they want ukraine to sign up to. is this a general feeling that president trump has about

zelenskyy's intentions? is it them signing on to whatever peace the u.s. negotiates with russia ukraine is involved in? at this point, it seems? or is it this european peace plan that appears to be increasingly taking shape at pace, potentially in brussels tomorrow, where zelenskyy will be, and maybe even macron, the french president announced in a meeting next week in paris. a lot of questions to be answered, but all of this leaving, frankly, ukrainians with existential questions about their survival over the next weeks. brianna. >> yeah. understandably so. and zelenskyy's chief of staff says that american and ukrainian officials have agreed to meet here in the near future. nick, i know you have some new reporting on who would actually provide those key security forces in the event of a cease fire. what have you learned yeah, look, this whole european arrangement is i think it's fair to say, in flux, but i've been speaking to one european official, well, plugged into these negotiations, and at this point, it seems like the british, the french and the turkish are likely to provide the bulk of forces for any european reassurance force that ends up being involved on boots on the ground.

>> if there's a ceasefire inside of ukraine. now, they've suggested to the eastern european nations, some of whom are frankly quite strident in their rhetoric against russia, don't want to contribute their forces and leave their borders with russia potentially undermanned. that's a key sign of how threatened the europeans feel here, the same official said. look, frankly, it's high risk and very much nearly impossible to try any of this without both the psychological and logistical support of the united states being behind that particular idea. macron just now, in a lengthy speech, laid out the case why france and europe has to stand up to russia. he says it's aggression knows no boundaries. we'll hear more of that tomorrow in brussels, where zelenskyy meets more european leaders again for the second time in just five days. and a sense, i think, that europe is trying to step up but knows fully well it needs the u.s. to be behind this. or frankly, they're quite unsure what confidence that gives moscow. >> yeah. nick paton walsh live for us in kyiv. thank you for the report. boris. >> let's get some analysis now from former u.s. ambassador to

ukraine steven pifer. he's with the center for international security and cooperation at stanford. ambassador, thank you so much for being with us. the u.s. pausing, intelligence sharing. what do you make of that decision? >> well, i think both the pause in sending military assistance to ukraine and the pause and intelligence sharing are going to be very detrimental for ukraine. and i was a bit concerned today when i saw that the national security adviser, mike waltz, he said this pause would continue until negotiations are set. now, if he means negotiations are set, does he mean the russians have to agree? because if that's the case, he's given moscow a huge incentive not to agree to negotiations to drag out these pauses. so i hope that was a misstatement on his part. >> do you think this move might further erode trust between the united states and european allies? >> i think the european allies

are probably scratching their heads as they see this reduction, at least for now, in american support for ukraine. last night, when he spoke to congress, president trump said he'd seen strong signals that russia is interested in peace. well, the russian military continues to pursue its attacks on ukraine. attacks on ukrainian cities. and whenever vladimir putin talks about terms, he talks inflexibility about russian terms. so i'm trying to figure out what are the strong signals that we're seeing, because right now it looks like we're putting all the pressure on kyiv. when president zelenskyy has indicated he's prepared to show some flexibility, but we're not doing anything to push the more recalcitrant party, which is moscow. >> what do you make of the idea that prime minister starmer of the uk and french president emmanuel macron might accompany zelenskyy back to the united states to help sign off on that minerals deal? do you think it would bolster his standing when he faces trump again?

>> i think that could help because bear in mind, last week before the what i would call the white house ambush on friday of president zelenskyy, both prime minister starmer and french president macron were in washington. they met with president trump and they seemed to have good meetings. so maybe they can help patch up relations between trump and zelenskyy. and help get us back towards a more workable relationship, because i continue to believe that u.s. military support and intelligence support is important for ukraine, and that's also an important signal to moscow. if moscow thinks that that support is going to go away, why wouldn't the russians calculate that the battlefield position that they're fighting becomes easier? >> to your point about what russia might offer up as a part of this negotiation. at least one russian official has floated the idea that iran's nuclear program might be part of the

conversation. i wonder what you make of that. >> um, i think the russians have made a number of suggestions as to things that they might do, but it seems to me that, you know, if the united states wants to talk to iran, you know, they've had channels the state department would know how to do this. i don't think it's a situation where we really need moscow as an intermediary, particularly when moscow has clearly broken with those countries that wanted to persuade iran not to acquire a nuclear weapon and is now siding very closely with iran. so i'm not sure that that's an offer that really is necessary for the u.s. >> former ambassador steven pifer, we appreciate you spending your time with us this afternoon. >> thank you. >> still ahead, new mexico officials ruling out one potential cause of death for oscar winning actor gene hackman and his wife. but does that get us closer to the truth of what happened? the latest details on

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significant. the bodies were found in separate rooms of the house, and officials say may have been there for several weeks before being discovered. cnn's veronica miracle joins us now with the latest. veronica, what are you hearing? >> well. >> brianna, the findings from the gas company. >> it's pretty. >> significant because. >> it means that they. >> did not die because of a gas leak. >> that's according to authorities, the gas company did find a minuscule leak they described from the stovetop in the kitchen, but not enough to be anywhere near lethal. they also found several code violations. the fireplaces, as well as the water heater. and they also don't think that that contributed to their deaths. so all of this information is going to be handed over to the medical investigator who's conducting the autopsies, which will certainly be part of their investigation. but we also understand that hackman and arakawa, they both tested negative for carbon monoxide poisoning. so what do we know at this point? we know that a natural gas leak, as well as carbon monoxide poisoning, don't appear to be factors in

their death. there was no external trauma, so no sign of foul play. and hackman's, um, excuse me, his pacemaker and data from his pacemaker was last recorded nine days before their bodies were found. so as we get more information and things are getting ruled out, it's actually becoming more confusing and not clear as to exactly how they died. we should be getting body camera footage from the sheriff's office in a couple of weeks, which could potentially, you know, open up more questions. it could potentially answer some of the questions that so many people have. but really, that autopsy report, i think is the next big thing that we're looking for. >> and veronica, what about the dog that was found dead in the home? there were two that were alive and well, but there was one that was found dead right? >> yeah. there's been some confusion about which dog died. deputies initially said that one of the german shepherds was found dead, but apparently it was a kelpie mix. the sheriff's office said yes. one of their

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pound coming over the canadian border this past january. how can we be anything but skeptical that fentanyl is really the basis for these tariffs? >> well, i don't think fentanyl is the only problem. there are many other drugs and there are lots of drugs that are coming over from canada. and in fact, earlier this week we met with tom homan, who is the border czar, and he just talked about how much they've been able to significantly reduce with cooperation with canada, the drugs that are coming in through our northern border. i think it's an issue, regardless of whether it's a southern border or a northern northern border. we just need to make sure that it's safe. we need to make sure that we don't have gang members or terrorists or cartels and and these, these drugs coming through that are killing american citizens. and so i think, look, whatever tool in the toolbox, the president has to be able to get cooperation from our neighboring nations is important. i think the goal here should be to avoid implementing tariffs. but again, we know that president the president uses

this to try to get certain foreign policy outcomes. and in this case, he's doing what he can to protect american citizens, making sure that they don't die from these drugs or from violent individuals or terrorists that could potentially be crossing over. so let's see how it plays out. it seems they had a productive conversation today, and hopefully we'll see that these tariffs will not, if implemented, will not be lasting much longer. >> it might not matter in terms of outcomes where these things come through. but it certainly does matter in terms of policy prescriptions for where you're tag.n you're talking about individuals coming over new u.s. customs and border protection data shows a drop in migrant crossings on the northern border, down 60% from october to december. even the most recent assessment by the dea doesn't even mention fentanyl coming in from canada as a drug trafficking threat to the u.s. i say, i see you highlighting other drugs, but trump is highlighting fentanyl, and this is his policy. so how

do you square that? >> well, i think he mentions fentanyl, but because that is the worst of the drugs that we're seeing coming in. but i think it's all drugs that the president is concerned about. and we can't, you know, turn a blind eye to the fact that since president trump took office, we have seen a significant drop, not just in drugs being trafficked into the country, but in illegal immigrants. and we know seeing the individuals that have come to cities like mine in new york. these were these were horrible gang members, gang leaders. these were people who were trafficking these drugs. there were people who were committing violent offenses, even people who have either murdered people in their home country or murdered people when they came to new york. and so that's the reality of what was coming through our southern border. and we understand, you know, we we, we welcome people who want to achieve the american dream and want to follow our rules and laws. but there were a lot of people who, number one, broke the law by entering the way they did. but number two were committing horrific crimes.

and i could say in my city, thousands of people, thousands of people have were arrested for committing crimes. and that's who the president has been focused on in removing from our country. and he has a lot of support from the american people to do that, because people do not want to have criminals or drugs, whether it's fentanyl or a different drug in on our streets, killing our children, hurting our citizens and affecting our public safety. >> yeah, incredibly concerning. the drop in crossings we were seeing before he came into office. we should note as well. but on these costs of terrorists being passed on to consumers, what are your constituents telling you about their concerns on that? >> well, my my constituents are just in a wait and see approach. obviously, they hear on the news that this could potentially rise prices or increase prices for them. and that is a concern of these high times of inflation. however, we saw president trump take this very same approach with communist china. he placed tariffs and these were the same

things we were hearing back then when he placed tariffs on chinese goods. and what happened? president biden came in and actually kept those tariffs in place, not only kept those tariffs in place, but then added an additional 10% tariffs on certain goods. so i think, you know, we have to see how the policy actually works out. i think we've been able to garner some very good things from the neighboring governments, whether it be more troops at our southern border. we saw canada also placed the cartels on a terror, a terror list and treat them, treat them as such. and i think that they're very they're obviously more concerned about public safety, but they are concerned about the economics as well. and again, i think this is being used as a tool. i don't necessarily think that it's going to last long. last time we heard this from the president, it was it was canceled immediately before it went into effect. >> so you are i should note, on ways and means, which is the powerful house tax writing

committee. we expect you're going to be busy. i do note, though, would voters appreciate a tax cut more if they weren't taking it in the shorts on tariffs look, i think people want to save money and keep more money in their pocket regardless of how it happens. >> i think that's the republican principle is to let people keep more of their hard earned tax dollars. and we want to try to bring down prices. if we don't want to see the tariffs that are going to impact the price of goods. but as i said, when they did it in china, it didn't necessarily affect those prices. and joe biden kept him in for an additional four years. and i don't even know that these tariffs are going on. >> i mean, you're hearing with all due respect, you're hearing the projections. no one is expecting that this is not going to affect the bottom line. you already heard trump last night asking farmers to bear with him. i mean, it's just very clear what we're hearing from economists. it's broadly expected this. >> is going to. >> increase prices. you've heard this from the target ceo. you

have targets on staten island. i mean, that's the expectation. >> well, i've met with multiple people who import goods from other countries, and they have not expressed those types of concerns. but i will say again, let's look at what happened with communist china when he put a 50% tariffs. we did not see that type of increase. but with regards to taxes, look, we have a great opportunity here right now. president trump again reiterated last night the desire to reduce taxes on tipped workers, on working families, on senior citizens who are on social security, struggling check to check, let them keep more of their hard earned money and the savings that we're finding should be passed on to these taxpayers because they deserve it. it's their money. and so i look forward to working with the president on this. i think we have a good opportunity to not just extend the tax cut and jobs act provisions of 2017 that was across the board. we saw personal income tax decrease. we saw a corporate tax rate decrease, which allowed for more repatriation and economic effect.

>> but one point. >> $5 trillion. >> i do just have to. >> be. >> clear, congresswoman, because what you're talking about, the tariffs this go round, i mean, it's so much bigger than what happened before. so you can't you can't compare, apples to a watermelon, right? you just can't. >> hear me about the taxes. >> no i am. but then i am i am but then i am. but you are trying to minimize the effect of the tariffs. and if you're looking. >> at. >> what i'm not minimizing the effect of, i'm not minimizing the effect of the tariffs. >> you're raising the idea that. >> it won't. very good chance i'm raising the idea that they may actually not go into effect, that perhaps president trump is focused on a policy objective, that he will achieve, that will prevent if these if these tariffs go into effect, they're going to be for a very short period of time to get a desired outcome. that's what i'm trying to say. but look at what the president has been able to do. his his threats of tariffs has

brought $1.5 trillion in private investment already from companies that were doing business in mexico, doing business overseas. and so there is something to be said about using tariffs as a way to repatriate manufacturing here in this country. it is. and he made that contrast last night. while the democrats have handed out billions, hundreds of billions of dollars in tax credits to try to incentivize investment here, he's saying if we we look to impose tariffs that are reciprocal, reciprocal tariffs, we can actually move these industries here to the united states, create jobs, make here in america and build our supply chain in a in a much more responsible way that saves taxpayers money in the long run. >> he he had to hand out $27 billion in taxpayer funds to farmers with his last tariffs. so it's not without cost. i just want to be clear. but congresswoman, we we appreciate

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this private jet and slammed it into another airplane. and one of the airstrips close to the dallas fort worth region. it's part of a larger storm system that is racing across the country with a triple threat. you mentioned it. blizzards, high winds, the potential for severe storms still ongoing, and other threats associated with this system as well. so let's talk about the bigger picture here because as it stands, we have already clocked over 225 severe weather reports, all indicated with these little dots or icons labeled across the eastern third of the country. eastern two thirds, really, eight of which were tornadoes. confirmed tornadoes from oklahoma to texas, but majority of them were wind events. and we're still ongoing across the eastern seaboard because the line of thunderstorms responsible for that high wind is marching through the carolinas and the mid-atlantic as we speak. but some of these wind gusts are impressive. this is near or above that category one atlantic hurricane threshold. so very powerful,

ferocious winds that have knocked out power for hundreds and thousands of customers, especially in the state of texas, but also across the southeast, where this morning storms ripped through the carolinas and into southern georgia. now we've got this area here with the outer banks and into portions of eastern, west eastern virginia having an enhanced risk of severe storms through the course of the evening. that yellow that's a slight risk. damaging winds, a few tornadoes cannot be ruled out. the light at the end of the tunnel, though, boris, is that these storms are quickly exiting off the eastern seaboard will die things down, but there's still a full fledged blizzard going on across parts of the great lakes as we speak. so, so much to talk about. >> boris derek van dam, thank you so much for keeping track of that for us. coming up, the white house press secretary says that president trump's hostage envoy has the right to talk to hamas. when asked about whether the u.s. is in talks with the militant group. we'll discuss the implications in just moments. >> experience luxury in every.

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