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news. literally moments ago, president trump signing executive actions, delaying officially delaying tariffs on not only mexico, which was announced earlier today after a conversation he had with mexican president claudia sheinbaum, but also canada, which there was some question about whether or not he would do. >> that's exactly right. so this was a deal. of course, the that was negotiated by trump during his first term. that makes the three north american countries a free trade zone. and so as of right now, he's saying there's going to be a nearly one month tariff delay on all products from mexico and canada. there was a lot of confusion, and now i feel like we are watching the market to see how it responds. maybe it's going to take a minute because this just and it kind of there you go. it's ticking. i mean, it's almost like. >> having seen it go down since this came down. yeah, yeah. >> this hasn't been a great day though. look at all that red there. so this is something that the commerce secretary had previewed. i think the real

question here is going to be. and let's get to cnn's jeff zeleny at the white house on this. is this like a stay of execution? you know, it's still on the calendar. what is this going to mean here? tell us what you're hearing. >> well, look, we're looking at the market there. the president just insisting a few moments ago in the oval office that he has not been looking at the stock market. and that is not behind any of these decisions, but that, of course, would take really a loss of history to believe that because the reality is we know this president pays very careful attention to the stock market. but it's not just that the white house has been hearing from ceos across the board. and we do know that the president had a conversation this morning with the mexican president. and that is leading to this reprieve on on the tariffs. so we know that the president signed an executive action a short time ago. we will see him do all of this a little bit later. but hearing from pool reporters in the oval office right now, the president is

talking about this, saying that fentanyl is still one of the leading concerns here. however, he does believe that mexico has been doing more toward trying to block it. so at this moment at least, these tariffs on all types of goods are given a one month reprieve until april 2nd or so. and then we will see if he actually puts in the next wave of tariffs. but one thing we really are seeing here, i think we're in the sixth week of the administration or so. so many threats of tariffs putting these in place and then backing away from them. all of that has certainly given a whiplash from here at the white house directly to wall street, as we can see in real time. >> and jeff, after his cabinet meeting, trump appeared to be trying to quash some growing blowback to widespread cuts to the federal workforce. he announced before this announcement regarding tariffs on canada that there would be these bi weekly meetings between elon musk and some of his cabinet officials. did he expand

on that during this press availability? >> he has not yet. we, of course, will keep monitoring that. but of course, this is very interesting because the president just a short time ago announced on truth social that elon musk was meeting with some members of the cabinet, not a full cabinet meeting, and this was not on the president's schedule. we know many cabinet secretaries are, in fact, doing other things across the country, but at least some cabinet secretaries meeting with elon musk, and this is coming after elon musk has been meeting on capitol hill with some senate republicans, some house republicans. so a bit of blowback at all of the public relations fallout from these firings and freezings. so the president is saying in this meeting, saying that he will have bi weekly meetings with the cabinet and elon musk so they can sort of be apprized of what is going on. and he made clear that cabinet secretaries are in charge of these agencies, not elon musk. so a bit of a course correction. we will see how the president describes it himself. but this is a significant development after we have seen

elon musk in the the oval office standing in the cabinet room and now a cabinet meeting, not on camera, the president and the white house decided to havthis meeting today, not on camera, where they were talking about how it's not elon musk who's in charge, it's these cabinet agencies. so a pretty significant development here. again, coming in the context of after mr. musk, certainly popular among some republicans, but getting an earful as well about some of these cuts that constituents have been complaining about to members of congress. >> yeah, it's been difficult to pinpoint exactly who should be held responsible for some of the cuts and the confusion. folks getting fired and then rehired and contracts getting canceled that, you know, we're actually canceled like 20 years ago. doge taking credit for that. not a lot of it makes sense. nevertheless, jeff zeleny, we appreciate you breaking it down for us. so many businesses have been caught in the middle of trump's tariff whiplash as they negotiate and navigate how to make decisions about the future amid the constant back and forth. will they need to raise

prices, or can they hold steady? should they hire or fire workers? cnn's natasha chen is tracking all of this with us. she joins us now live. natasha, you actually spoke with distributors about this growing confusion. i imagine that now with this update, they might have to recalibrate their plans even more. >> well. >> boris, it was really interesting being here. >> since this morning. >> with these wholesale distributors of. >> vegetables produce that gets sold to restaurants all across los angeles. gets sold to supermarkets this week. they'd already seen the boxes of avocados, tomatoes, jalapenos. they've seen those prices go up already because of the new tariffs. now they get those boxes from importers like perez and larios across the street there. and then we watched them all receive the news about the delay. the sales manager over at perez and larios told us about that whiplash experience today. >> these tariffs have. >> been.

>> like that. you know. >> you're we're running. >> nice and smooth. >> trump comes out. >> with you're going to raise 25% tariffs. we hit the wall. you know march 4th. we're like what the bleep is going on. and so now we get another briefing that he's going to postpone until april 2nd. so we get a briefing to keep going like oh this is good. this is good. we can finish we can finish. meaning you know we can come up to a solution. >> i can sense a bit of cautious optimism there. he did say that this experience has felt like an early april fool's joke. he has already paid more than $50,000 worth of new tariffs this week on avocados and limes. he is expecting to bring down his prices tomorrow because tomorrow he won't have to pay those tariffs. now he has noticed fewer boxes, fewer pallets being purchased by his clients this week because the prices have been higher and he hopes they come back. boris. >> interesting that he mentions

this being an april fool's joke, because that's specifically why trump said he doesn't want to install these tariffs or reciprocal tariffs on april 1st. he's now waiting for april 2nd, so we have another deadline on the horizon. natasha chen in los angeles for us. thank you so much, brianna. >> joining us now to talk about all of this is republican senator jim banks of indiana. he is on the armed services committee and the veterans affairs committee. sir, thank you so much for being with us. and i do want to talk about tariffs here in just a minute. but first let's talk about the department of government efficiency, because i know you were in a meeting where you got a briefing. and also you're, as i mentioned, on the veterans affairs committee, as the department is facing some cuts. do you think that congress should have a vote on doge cuts? >> well, we. will and we will. vote on cutting spending. but in the meantime, elon musk and president trump are doing exactly what they told the voters that they would do before the election. and that's cut waste and abuse out of the federal government. well over

70% of americans support president trump in doing just that. and you look at you think about working class americans, hoosiers sitting at home who work hard, go to work every day. they pay taxes. they don't want to hear about their tax dollars going to fund transgender surgeries and studies on animals and and lgbtq centers and african countries that they've never heard of before. let's cut out the waste. there's a lot of waste to cut. you'll be surprised by how much government you will never miss. that's a fact. and and president trump and elon musk and doge doge effort, which we which republicans in congress fully support is just getting started. and it's cutting a lot of the a lot of the waste out of the government. but we will cut spending when it comes to spending bills. and congress can and should do that to make these cuts permanent. we have a duty to do that as well. >> no doubt. i think there's a lot of support for shrinking the size of government and rooting out waste, fraud and abuse. but

there have been actions here that have actually run counter to that. i think, as you're you're aware, with some of these firings of igs and the like, but in the meantime, you know, with congress holding the power of the purse, why abdicate that to elon musk? >> it's not an abdication. it's it's it's elon musk and the president of the united states rooting out waste in the federal government. and the public supports that they want. they want that to happen. the president, the the executive branch taking actions that are long overdue to root out waste, to root out bureaucracy, to cut bureaucracy. a $37 trillion national debt. this is one way to cut that waste out and get us on. on a path to fiscal sanity. so but but let me let let's be clear about this. i'm a veteran. i served in the war in afghanistan, and i want the va to work for veterans, not work for the bureaucracy. cut. the va can work so much more efficiently, efficiently. if you take more bureaucracy away and

focus more on veterans. and that's what doge is doing, looking for ways to make make the va and all federal agencies more efficient in how they deliver services. 45 days into this administration and a lot of good things have happened. there's a lot more to come. >> okay, so far, we're not hearing doge talking about how to make it actually better for veterans services and benefits at the va. there are reports of already overburdened benefits staff being canned. i'm hearing personally worry among va employees that mental health professionals are among probationary staff who have been cut. can you assure americans that these va cuts and we're hearing, you know, the 70,000 on the table here, that that will not affect veteran care and benefits that they receive from the va. >> absolutely. i mean, president trump is so pro veteran. he had a great track record for veterans in his first term. i served on the veterans committee in the senate, and we're going

to do so much more to make the va work for our veterans by by creating more community care and getting services directly to the veteran instead of instead of more red tape. and that's what doge is doing, is cutting red tape. and congress and the president, we're going to come in and work together to make to make the va work better for veterans. we're just getting started. we're on a roll, but we're just getting started. >> it's not cutting red tape, right. so far it is freezing contracts and it is cutting workers right indiscriminately. you have the president saying he's going to convene biweekly cabinet sessions to make things precise, which is his word, right? to make things precise here. so this internal va memo that's talking about returning staffing to 2019 levels zero, where because you voted for it in 2022 when it was signed into law, 2019 predates that when millions more veterans became eligible for va benefits due to the pact act, that landmark bill that you voted for, that president biden signed to cover veterans affected by toxic

exposures like burn pits? how do you take care of all these new claimants when you're looking at cuts this large? >> look, like i said, i'm just not seeing it. i mean, the the va is a large bureaucracy. it can be run so much more efficiently. it's not about bricks and mortar and more government employees. it's about the veteran. put the put the veteran first. and that's what president trump is focused on. that's what i'm focused on in the senate, on the veterans affairs committee. we're going to make sure that the va. works better for our. veterans than it has ever worked before. >> does it does it put veterans first to cut people who work on their benefits or who provide? i'm just not convinced. >> that that's happening. i'm not convinced that that's happening. >> are you? in fact. >> are you? >> i'm convinced that, senator, are you talking to your constituents? >> i hear from my constituents every day. they want the they want the va to be less bureaucratic and more focused on the veteran. i am a veteran. >> that's what president trump.

>> is focused on. that's what i'm focused on as well. the talk, the talking points of of the va cutting necessary employees who are focused on veterans is is bogus. it's not provable. the fact is that doge president trump, myself, republicans in the senate and the congress, we're going to make sure that this va works better for veterans than ever before. >> i guarantee it. you're aware they cut people from the hotline, right? and then reinstated them, but that there are still a number of key support staff on that hotline who have not been rehired. the silent monitors and other folks. i mean, are you tracking that i'm tracking that the va is a large bureaucracy and there are ways to make it more efficient to work better for veterans. >> that's to. >> keep repeating. >> that. over and over again. >> that's direct access to veterans. >> who. >> are utilizing. >> there are no signs that the va is is is there are no signs that the va is working less for our veterans today than what it was 45 days ago. president trump

is focused on our veterans delivering care to our veterans, and we're going to do that, and we're going to make it. we're going to do it even more efficiently than ever before. >> so you and you endorsed the cuts to key support staff on the veteran hotline. that's something. >> that cuts to key support. >> staff. >> at the va. the va is going to work more efficiently. doge is going to find is going to recommend. that's just ways to do that. and and congress, it is true that the the 45 days into this administration, president trump is focused i'm focused. republicans are focused on making the va work better. i mean, the fact the fact is what president trump did in his first term to provide more community care and better options to our veterans, whether. >> it's at a va. >> hospital or at. >> a we're talking about. >> cuts. >> to the va right. >> now. >> he did great. >> he did historic and great things. >> for the subject. >> for the va in his first term. he's going to do even. more and greater things for the va in his second term. i'm not changing the subject. the boat, your bogus claims. you can't even you can't prove that the va is less

equipped to care for veterans today than what it was 45 days ago. the fact is, president trump's going to make the va work better than ever before. >> i'll send you the reporting. it's really quite easy. it's, um, it's pretty basic. i'll. i'll send it your way. senator banks, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> still to come, deciding the fate of ukraine, u.s. negotiators planning to meet next week with ukrainian officials and at stake, the future of ukraine and potentially an end to its war with russia. we'll have that and much more coming up on cnn news central. >> when it comes to rooting out. >> corruption. >> do the fbi's ends justify the means? >> it was humiliating. it's an embarrassment for the country. >> the united states of scandal with jake tapper sunday at 9:00 on cnn. >> tap into etsy for home and style staples to help you set any vibe, from custom lighting. under $150 to vintage jackets under 100 for affordable pieces

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going to be meeting with ukrainian officials in saudi arabia next week. listen to this. >> president zelenskyy sent a letter to the president. i think the president thought that it was a really good, positive first step. and from that we have now, we are now in discussions to coordinate a meeting with the ukrainians. and i think the idea is to get down a framework for a peace agreement and an initial ceasefire. ceasefire as well. >> that announcement, coming just hours after european leaders held an emergency summit with president zelenskyy in brussels hoping to increase defense spending for the war torn country. we have cnn's nick paton walsh with us live now from kyiv. and, nick, we're also learning that president zelenskyy will be meeting with the saudi crown prince. so what more is he saying about these talks with the u.s. >> yeah, i mean, the hope is that this will potentially get the relationship back on track. i should stress that his monday, march the 10th meeting with the

saudi crown prince was something he said he would do when he canceled the first trip prior to the us-russia summit in riyadh. i think now about 2 or 3 weeks ago. so this is sort of to some degree planned. but the following on meeting with his staff and that trump cabinet delegation is clearly a sense of advancement here, the important point to focus on is exactly what it is that the americans will be asking the ukrainians to commit to here. we know there is a separate us-russia track that appears to have borne fruit in the last 24 hours in terms of diplomatic appointments. they always said they wanted to try and increase or restaff the washington and moscow embassies. but exactly how this meeting progresses is vital because remember, it takes place in a climate of u.s. military and intelligence sharing assistance to ukraine being frozen, and that causes an existential crisis here. frankly, for ukrainians on the front line, deep concerns about air defense, it's a matter of life and death

every night. and so we're now seeing a pattern in which, indeed, publicly, the united states is referring to itself as the intermediary between us, between the ukraine and russian sides here. and so, ultimately, the question for zelenskyy is what comes of this meeting? what are the asks from the american side to get this relationship back on track? zelenskyy has already nearly apologized, already said he'll sign the deal, already committed to peace. what are the specifics of that piece? >> brianna and nick, we're hearing criticism from eu leaders directed at the u.s. after that explosive meeting between zelenskyy and trump. one member of the french senate in particular blasting trump during a speech yesterday. let's listen. >> l'europe est un. >> tournant critique de son histoire. le bouclier american se le risque de abandonné la russie. >> renforcée. >> washington est devenu la cour de iair horn. an empereur. incendiary des courtisanes soumis est un bouffon ketamine

chargé de libération de la fonction publique. >> does he speak more broadly for the european sentiment toward the united states? following last week's disastrous meeting? >> i think it's a more florid choice of words there, definitely, but there is consternation, i think, across europe as the sudden change in the transatlantic security alliance of 80 years that's occurred in just 45 days of the trump administration. europe knows it needs the united states that it has always had as its long term security guarantor, if it's going to implement the peacekeeping plan that it's trying to talk about, which is essentially something proposed by trump's ukraine and russia envoy keith kellogg in a paper back in april last year. they think they're playing to the americans idea here for a piece. and so there are huge questions here. certainly, i should remind people in the united states that, you know, european policy is a lot more staid and boring at the moment, frankly, than that which you're seeing in washington at the moment. and also to the questions about european security are much more real, imminent, expensive and

potentially costly to european lives, specifically ukrainian lives. in the weeks ahead. boris. >> all right. nick paton walsh, thank you so much for that report from kyiv. let's bring in cnn military analyst colonel cedric leighton. so what are you looking for these meetings? is this like a do over? is that even possible? >> well, do. >> overs might. >> be a little bit hard to achieve in this environment, brianna, but i think that's the closest thing that would describe it. the closest term that would describe it. but you know, what we need to have here is some kind of a situation where there's this initial agreement that then results in other things that happen. unfortunately, what i think we're seeing is kind of a backwards approach to this. you know, the trump administration talks a lot about, you know, following in the footsteps of ronald reagan. if ronald reagan were doing this, we would be deploying troops in at least into poland. there would be a no fly zone, probably that would be promulgated over ukraine. and

then we would be having discussions with the russians. but this lack of a show of force is in direct contradiction to what they're doing in the middle east. so it's very interesting to watch all of this. but it's you know, they're clearly pressuring the ukrainians to move forward on terms that basically trump and possibly russia have set. >> to the point about one of those terms that the u.s. wants zelenskyy to agree to. it's this mineral deal. it was zelenskyy's idea originally, but there are a lot of questions about what value the u.s. can actually extract, right? i think we have a map that shows the critical minerals that the u.s. is hoping to obtain. a lot of them, as you can see, are actually in areas where russian troops are holding on to ukrainian territory right now. how far would signing this deal go? and actually helping ukraine long term? >> that's a really good question, boris. you know, as you as you point out, a large portion of the mineral reserves that they're looking for, the rare earths and lithium and

minerals like that, most of those are found in the eastern portion, either directly under current russian control in the donbas region or close to the front lines, and close enough that there is some concern as to whether or not those resources can be exploited. there are portions of that are resources that are in the central part of the country, and in the western part of the country. that could potentially be safer to exploit. but what this means is that there's a certain risk to the u.s. by going forward with something like this. it is probably the best thing that can happen for ukraine to tie us to the ukrainians, to the u.s., and vice versa. but it is a situation where it won't probably won't bring out as many financial resources as we think it will, or at least as the trump administration thinks it will. >> really a fascinating conversation. we have to leave it there. colonel cedric leighton, appreciate the time. >> you bet. boris. anytime.

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he shared a video with more than 219 million followers of conservative commentator ben shapiro, calling on trump to act president trump should, in fact, pardon derek chauvin. >> he should. he should pardon him. his federal charges. if we are talking about. >> reversing the evils. >> of the last several years in american life, but when it came to blm, the inciting event for the blm riots that caused $2 billion in property damage in the united states and set america's race relations on their worst footing in my lifetime, was, in fact, the railroading of derek chauvin in the death of george floyd. the evidence demonstrates that derek chauvin did not, in fact, commit murder of george floyd. >> chauvin, of course, is the former minneapolis police officer serving two concurrent sentences for state and federal convictions related to floyd's death. and joining us now is cnn anchor and senior national correspondent sara sidner. and sara, you talked with george floyd's brother. how has he and his family reacting to this?

>> they're disgusted. >> they have seen this litigated and relitigated and seen people online like shapiro. relitigating facts that are absolute falsehoods. things he calls facts that are have been proven beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury in state court. but they say it's very hurtful that this to see this come up again and then more importantly, to see elon musk boosting it to his 219 million followers on x and 19 million of whom have watched this. it was extremely disturbing to the family. but also they say, look, if this is being pushed to donald trump, which is what elon musk has done, he has donald trump's ear. if this were to come to fruition, it would set the country back according to the family for a hundred years. let me let you listen to what terrence floyd, one of george floyd's brothers, said about

this push to try and get derek chauvin pardoned for his federal civil rights crimes. >> it's like a re-injuring of open wound. you know, you have to go. >> you have to go through this since 2020. you have to go through the whole trial of seeing his actions over and over and over again, and people claiming that it was the drugs. it was this. it wasn't chauvin's knee on his neck. you know, we had to go through all of that, all the lies, all the all the different disgusting stuff on social media. and now to relive it, for them to bring it back up. this is the fifth year we were supposed to see progress. >> and he talks about how so much progress has been stunted, in part because he says this administration has helped push it back. and you're seeing all the responses from all these companies that after george floyd was murdered and after they saw the video themselves,

they started reaching out saying, we've got to do something. we've got to do something with diversity. we've got to talk about this. and so many of those companies are now rolling those dei efforts back. he says. this is definitely setting folks back. but he says he hopes that the president does not listen to ben shapiro or elon musk on this issue. >> and you also spoke with minnesota attorney general keith ellison. what did he tell you about a possible pardon for chauvin? >> yeah. look, this is keith ellison state, minnesota was very much involved. he was very much involved with, you know, sort of understanding what was going on and having talks about what was going on in minneapolis. and so i asked him what he thought of this push. there's a website, and shapiro is saying he's going to be talking a lot about this. so believe you me, it will end up in a lot of different places because he's going to keep pushing it and pushing it and trying to get donald trump to do something. here is what the

attorney general said about this push. >> i think that it is, sadly. >> another example of blatant disrespect for the law, blatant disrespect for george floyd and his family and people who remember those very, very ugly days of march 20th may 2020. and i also think that, you know, it's it it doesn't it doesn't it does matter. it matters a lot. but i want listeners to know that his state charges where he got 22 years, 22.5 years will remain no matter what trump does. >> that's right. because donald trump cannot pardon someone from state court. i do want to just add this in. derek chauvin himself pleaded guilty to the federal crimes. a jury found him guilty in the state crimes, but he admitted guilt. and now you have someone trying to push for him to be pardoned after he

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focus on that toward the end. but we had the greatest economy in history in the first administration, and i think we'll do even better now. but this is something that we have to do. there will always be a little short term interruption. i don't think it's going to be big, but, um, the countries and companies that have been ripping us aren't particularly happy with what i'm doing. but the united states will be very happy. and, you know, our farmers are going to be very happy. and again, there'll be disruption. but in the end, i said it before with china. we signed an unbelievable deal with china, $50 billion in purchases, and we're doing great. biden however, when he came in, he never they never enforced that deal. so so that's the only thing that basically you have globalist companies that have been ripping us off that won't be able to rip us off any longer. i think that's what the big charge is. >> have you been influenced by some of these exemptions that have been announced? and some of these temporary delays? have you

been influenced in those decisions because of the market reaction? >> well, there are no delays at all. no, nothing to do with the market. i'm not even looking at the market because long term, the united states will be very strong with what's happening here. now, these are countries and companies, foreign companies that have been ripping us off. and no president did anything about it until i came along. and then i did a lot about it. you know, we took in in tariffs from china, $600 billion. nobody else took in $0.10 from china. they never did. but when covid came along, we had a focus on covid. we did a great job. we got rid of that. we ended up handing over with a market that was higher than it was previous to covid coming in. but this is very much about companies and countries that have ripped off this country, our country, our beloved usa. and they're not going to be ripping us off anymore. so, you know, i think that has an impact on the market. >> there you have president

donald trump signing off on a second one month extension of tariffs on canada and mexico. the president there dismissing losses in the stock market. you see the dow jones industrial average down roughly 515. now 520 some odd points on the day. the president saying that that's because of globalist countries and companies that have been ripping us off, saying they will not be happy about tariffs. but this is something the united states has to do. even though he acknowledged there may be some short term disruption, he called it a short term interruption, though he says not much. he believes that long term u.s. farmers will be happy. we're going to keep tracking the president's remarks and other news coming in to cnn news central. don't go anywhere. we'll be right back. >> twitter. that's a great name. >> we invented a whole new thing. >> no one could possibly have understood where it was. >> going. >> twitter. breaking the bird premieres sunday at ten on cnn.

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many people that don't work. we have many people probably that aren't even living, that are getting checks. and we're finding all of that out. and it's being reported. we're going to save hundreds of billions of duh. >> okay. it looks like we're having some technical issues there. >> with sometimes. look, full disclosure, this is what happens. they are sometimes rewinding and fast forwarding in the feed out because they go and they shoot this in the oval office. >> it's a process. >> you're seeing the sausage being made. to be honest, i think. >> it's a process. this, press availability is taken. a select group of people. the people are let into the oval office. they ask questions of president trump. there he was answering about these now biweekly cabinet meetings with elon musk and members of of his administration trying to sort out some of these cuts. and when that gets fed back into us, sometimes it glitches. fortunately, though, i've just learned that the glitch has been fixed. let's go back to president trump.

>> saved or not. and parts of it are contracts that are expired that we're paying on many crazy things that, you know, you can see it happening, it shouldn't happen, but you can see it happening. you see a lot of it being put out. but the other thing i think most important for today, i want the cabinet members to keep good people. i don't want to see a big cut where a lot of good people are cut. i want the cabinet members to keep the good people and the people that aren't doing a good job, that are unreliable, don't show up to work, et cetera. those people can be cut. so i had a meeting and i said, i want the cabinet members go first. keep all the people you want, everybody that you need, and it would be better if they were there for two years instead of two weeks, because in two years they'll know the people better. but i want them to do the best job they can. when we have good people, those. that's precious. that's very important. and we want them to keep the good people. and so we're going to

be watching them. and ellen and the group are going to be watching them. and if they can cut it's better. and if they don't cut then ellen will do the cutting. >> so just. >> is that a. >> reflection that you think doge. >> and. >> elon musk have been moving too quickly? >> no, no, i think they've done an amazing job. they've done an amazing job. and look at what they found. i read it the other night in the speech. i mean, they found these things where billions of dollars has been poured down the drain to things. that's not about people, that's about contracts where billions and billions of dollars was just thrown out the window. it probably got kickbacks. i'm sure there were tremendous kickbacks for the people that authorized those contracts. but no, elon has been really teaching everybody about the numbers that you can do. but what i want is i want the numbers, but i also want to keep the good people. we want to get rid of the people that aren't working, that aren't showing up and have a lot of problems. and so they're working together with elon. and i think we're

doing a really great job. we're cutting it down. we have to for the sake of our country, we have you can't have that kind of fat. it's bloat. and like nobody's ever seen before where you need 20,000 and they have 120,000 people and you just don't need that many. and it happens with companies and it happens with governments. i guess you could go to a lot of governments. you'd see the same thing. but we're trying to get it down. we want to be able next year, if we could balance the budget, i think there's a good chance we could balance the budget next year. we have a lot of good things happening. plus we have a lot of revenue. things happening like today with the shipbuilding and this gentleman behind me is going to create a lot of jobs. and he's about the biggest there is in the world. we had the biggest chip maker in the world here a few days ago. he's going to be spending $200 billion on building plants. we're not giving them any money to build it either. you know, it's not that chips act is ridiculous. where the biden thing, where they give billions of dollars to people that have

nothing but money, they're not going to spend that money. they're just taking that money. >> so president trump there again in the oval office announcing these bi weekly meetings between elon musk and his cabinet, again making accusations about corruption and kickbacks, that doge is discovering a lot of what doge has put forward, claiming that its waste is largely inaccurate. they've taken credit for things that have expired before trump took office, and they've had to correct this list on their website. now, multiple times, trump says that he does want to keep good people, though, essentially telling his cabinet to perhaps slow down on some of those cuts. >> yeah, wanting something to be precise. perhaps an admission that it has not been as precise as it could be. the arena with kasie hunt starts after a break. >> tell us about accepting bribes. >> the stuff he. >> did that was completely legal destroys democracy. >> i'm still not sure that. >> you're repentant. >> i have nothing.

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