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>> just minutes from now, a check in on the health of the u.s. economy. the monthly jobs report about to be released. the first monthly jobs report of president trump's second administration. you see futures look ticking up right now. we're going to bring all of it to you. and for the first time, for the first time in the united states in more than a decade, south carolina is preparing to execute a death row inmate by firing squad and brand new body cam video, just in to cnn shows the incredible moments a police officer rescues a 12 year old boy who nearly drowned in a hotel pool. i'm kate bolduan with sara sidner and john berman. this is cnn news central right now, we're standing by for a jobs report brought to you this morning by the letter u. >> for uncertainty. uncertainty over what the numbers will show and uncertainty over what the
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numbers could trigger next for a u.s. economy right now, reeling from a tower of terror style drop this week on wall street due to trump's ever changing tariff policy. and then there's the letter d for drama at doge. the president issuing a new directive as elon musk and republicans face fresh backlash over the massive job cuts and funding freezes. what does this mean for millions of federal workers? now, cnn's kevin liptak is at the white house tracking all of the things there will be a first full jobs report of trump 2.0. what is the mood at the white house? what are they looking at and concerned about? >> yeah, yeah. jobs day at the white house is always kind of an anticipatory one. i don't sense a great deal of anxiety about this particular jobs report, but certainly trump allies see as much as anyone these blinking warning lights that are going off in the economy, in large part because of some of the actions that the president has taken, whether it's this whipsaw approach to tariffs
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that's causing the markets to tumble or whether it's these mass layoffs within the federal government that elon musk is helping to execute, those won't necessarily be reflected in the jobs report today, but certainly they could have a major effect on the economy. and it is those layoffs. this question of who has the responsibility for firing and hiring that the president did try clarifying yesterday, he does still support musk in this task. but what he is saying is that the heads of these cabinet agencies, the senate confirmed bosses at the departments that make up the federal government will have the final say in this matter. and this is so notable because it is really the first time we've seen trump try and reel in elon musk to try and temper what has so far been somewhat of an indiscriminate approach to how this is all being carried out. certainly, you had heard a lot of consternation from republicans on capitol hill who had been facing heat from their own constituents, but also some of these department heads who
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said, look, we just got into this job. we need to have the power to manage our own staffs. and that all kind of culminated yesterday in this 90 minute meeting inside the cabinet room here at the white house. that's the same room where musk sort of held court before cameras. a week ago, there were no cameras rolling this time around. but musk did say with musk present that it would be these cabinet officials who had the final say and that he wanted the approach to be somewhat less haphazard, he said. they can be very precise as to who will remain and who will go. we say the scalpel rather than the hatchet. so it describing a much more finite tool than that chainsaw that we saw musk wielding at a conservative conference, saying that he would be slashing through the federal bureaucracy. now, how this all plays out going forward, i think, will be something to watch, because while trump did say that his cabinet officials had the final determination, he also said that
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musk would be making his own recommendations. what he is essentially describing is a new phase of the doge effort. listen to exactly how he put it. >> elon has been really teaching everybody about the numbers that you can do, but what i want is i want the numbers, but i also want to keep the good people. we want to get rid of the people that aren't working, that aren't showing up and have a lot of problems. and so they're working together with elon. and i think we're doing a really great job. we're cutting it down. we have to for the sake of our country, we have you can't have that kind of fat. it's bloat. >> so later the president said that if these cabinet members don't do the cutting themselves, that musk would do it for them, essentially saying that he would continue to be looking over their shoulder to make sure the plan is being carried out, you could see that leading to some power struggles down the line. but the president said that he would continue these meetings. he would convene them every two weeks going
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forward. >> all right. the roller coaster ride continues. thank you so much. kevin liptak there from the white house, john. >> all right. with us now, republican strategist, former rnc communications director doug heye and democratic strategist and co-founder of lift our voices, julie roginsky. i just don't think you can mistake at all the shrinkage in the size of the cutting implements that are being used by elon musk and his efforts. i mean, he went from the chainsaw that elon musk was famously holding on that stage to now president trump saying a scalpel, it is a change. doug, the question is why? >> well, one great. >> seinfeld reference, obviously. >> look, i've been saying for for weeks. >> now, you. >> can't do this with a scalpel. you just can't. and you shouldn't do it for obvious reasons, with a chainsaw. what we need is a good chef's knife to go in and cut the fat without cutting too much of the meat, and somebody who knows how to do that, how to use that knife, that ultimately is the house of representatives. and there is nothing sexier in politics than tom cole and the house appropriations committee. but this is a function of congress of how do you do this and how do
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you implement this? this also should be, i think, an opportunity for in washington for firms and think tanks and companies to say, how can we do this better? arnold ventures put put out here are ten ways that we can save billions and billions of dollars, and ten ways we can bring in more revenue. that's, i think, an opportunity for a lot of companies and organizations to highlight what their priorities are. >> you're making an argument for why? i guess what i'm asking is the president buckled, the president changed here. was it that he was hearing from people like you, from members of the house? was it looking at the wild swings in the stock market? >> i think you're hearing a lot from members of congress where there's just uncertainty. they hear things back in their district that they don't necessarily know about. and we hear from governors as well. you know, as trump announces these things, governors, republican governors don't want to criticize trump, but they'll say, i have a lot of questions. when a politician tells you they have a lot of questions, it means they have a lot of concerns and they're not necessarily happy. >> all right, julie, i want to read you again. and i read this once before from axios this morning because i think it sums up this atmosphere that doug was just talking about uncertainty. president trump is building a
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reputation as the flip flopper in chief. they called it the rug pull presidency. the president who after announcing a bold new policy today, might well reverse it tomorrow. why it matters in a chaotic world, the federal government normally acts as a stabilizing force under trump. it's driving chaos. >> this is no way to run an economy. >> i think. >> we can all agree that you can't run economy the economy on a whim. and that's exactly what the president is doing. he wakes up one day, he decides he's going to have tariffs. he wakes up another day. he decides he's going to use a scalpel, not a chainsaw. look, the reality is, you're absolutely right. congress should be in charge of this. but notably, congress is not in charge of this. even now, the president is basically telling his cabinet where to cut and how to cut it, despite the fact that the government has been appropriated money by the united states house of representatives and by the united states senate, who are not part of this discussion, which is unconstitutional for lack of a better description. the problem here, of course, is that none of these people are profiles in courage, and elon musk is going to be looking over their shoulder. translation elon musk is going to be using his massive platform on twitter or whatever he calls it today, to
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tweet out criticisms of any cabinet official who doesn't do what musk says. and none of them is going to want to put themselves into harm's way by having a bunch of crazy maggots coming after them, their families. they've all said privately, these republicans that they're terrified of the chaos that can be unleashed on them personally. so, you know, this is a very nice, face saving way for the president to basically give elon musk the same power he's always had. but just to shift the blame from elon musk, who obviously he's trying to protect now onto his own cabinet. >> you brought up tariffs. there was something of a full retreat, at least for a time being on tariffs from from president trump yesterday. i want to read from the wall street journal editorial. he's treating the north american economy as a personal plaything, as markets gyrate with each presidential whim, it's doubtful mr. trump even has the power to impose these tariffs. and we hope this afflatus gets a legal challenge. i love that last sentence in there, because i just never seen the word afflatus before. i had to look it up. it's basically a divine whim. so thank you for for teaching us something. the
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markets, investors, economists and i think voters also now reacting not necessarily to tariff policy, they may or may not like it. there are a lot of investors and economists who don't like it, but what they really don't like is just the wild back and forth. >> this is not a serious man. i don't know how else to describe it. this is not a serious man who is looking at the united states economy and the global economy in a serious way. this is somebody who is using his personal grievances, his personal acrimony towards mexicans, his personal acrimony towards justin trudeau, whom he clearly doesn't like to bring the rest of us the world into chaos. and that's the difficulty with dealing with somebody who is not taking the presidency seriously, but is using this as basically a revenge scheme to even scores with people that he hasn't liked and countries that he hasn't liked his entire life or for the last ten years. that's a problem because it's our stock, it's our 401 s, it's our savings that are going to evaporate. and, you know, whatever issues mentally donald trump has with the people he's going after, we're all being affected by it. and i think that's a tragedy and a travesty
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for the world economy. >> and, doug, i mean, to what extent is he becoming the boy who cried tariff here because he said he was going to impose him. then he paused. then he did. then he pulled him back a little. then he pulled him back a lot. why should anyone believe he's going to impose them in full on april 2nd? if he keeps seeing the market tanking and howard lutnick saying. >> well, believe it or not, you have to prepare for it. and that's the reality. whether whether you're talking about canada, certainly mexico or u.s. businesses. right. i'm going to be won't surprise you. i'aniel every year. le palais gave me a lot of french winemakers there. >> what are you showing off? >> they are i am they are concerned obviously, of what tariffs may come into france. and that's not just about french winemakers and fancy champagnes and burgundies or whatever. that's about american distributors, american retailers, people who are delivering those products. it's about american jobs, ultimately. so when you show a canadian retailer saying, we're going to get rid of all the jack daniel's and the tito's vodka, that's not just a talking point. that's american jobs. >> and it is seemingly having an impact. and we're watching the markets very closely today. futures had been up. they seem to be dipping back toward the
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middle, maybe even down this morning. investors not happy. one last question on pure electoral politics here. politico has got a little bit of a look on what former vice president kamala harris might be doing, and whether she's going to jump into the gubernatorial race in california in, i guess, a year and a half now, politico said, quote, she said to people, i'm staying in this fight. she told allies in phone calls and at private gathering at a pre-oscars party last weekend, harris was asked by another partygoer when she would make a decision about jumping into california's governor's race. she gave a definitive answer, according to two people with knowledge of the conversation. at the end of the summer, she would decide by then it's a big choice. >> yeah. and look, i think if she were to jump in, she cleared the field and probably become the next governor of california. she has to decide whether she's going to do that or she's going to run for president again, or she's going to do something else and become kind of an éminence grise. sorry for the french, but you've inspired me. it's great. but yeah, but to be somebody who wants to to be a thought leader in the democratic party, and i think she has an
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ability to do all of those things. california is probably the least risky for her personally, because that is probably the best success that she will be guaranteed to have. >> and every every concession speech after a campaign says this fight is not over, right? every candidate says this, but i think the answer for democrats, clearly the message that voters are sending them is not more cowbell. >> understood. all right. doug, hi. have fun at the wine festival. make good choices. julie. thank you. >> i'll just be sitting at home and bored. so living vicariously. >> appreciate both your time. have a great weekend, kate. >> ahead for us, an impossible choice between barbaric methods. that is what the attorney for a death row inmate now says. as south carolina prepares for the first time in 15 years to put a man to death by firing squad, and rfk jr. has been pushing unconventional treatments for measles, seemingly taking cues from a doctor who has faced disciplinary action for, quote, unusual use of risk filled
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lethal injection. the electric chair or firing squad. he says he didn't want to be cooked alive, and a court denied his legal team's request for a fuller hearing. to learn more about lethal injection. so sigmon chose the firing squad. he has asked the governor and the u.s. supreme court to intervene, but it is unlikely that will happen. death by firing squad is allowed in five states, but is rarely chosen. that could soon change. idaho may make it the state's primary method of execution. joining us now is cnn legal analyst joey jackson. i got to tell you, hearing firing squad in 2025 sounds absolutely barbaric. i didn't realize that inmates had a choice in some states. >> yeah, you know. >> it does vary. >> good morning to you, sarah. >> it varies by state. but firing. >> squad. >> you. >> would think, hey, how inhumane. >> there's a school of thought which would suggest that this. >> is even more humane than other methods. why? >> you're familiar with. we talked about old sparky. and florida. >> where they were having issues with respect.
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>> to the electrocution, the. >> electric chair, what was doing, and burning people. >> that's probably. >> what this person who's going to die alluded to. and then, of course, there's been issues as it relates to the cocktail, and that is the drugs that they put in your body. and what it does in terms of the experience that you have right before you die, and whether that's humane or inhumane. and it's felt by many that this is quick, fast to the point, somewhat brutal, and perhaps graphic. but at the end of the day, that's a policy choice as it relates to which one is best, worst or otherwise. >> and the inmate gets to choose. i do want to sort of go over what his attorney says that he is aware of, which is death by firing squad means broken bones, destroyed organs, and a terrible mess to be cleaned up. meantime, you know, usually you are allowed to have witnesses as well to this. either the victims or the family of the of the inmate. and so it would be a horrible thing to witness. what, though, does it tell you about inmates fear of lethal
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injection? because there have been long fights over the cocktail of drugs used even at some point the whole thing was stopped as it went through the courts about whether or not one drug was used or not. >> yeah. you know, that's a great point, right? because the reality is, is that in picking, as some states, you can as you noted, the reality is, is that many are fearful by the sensations you get from the cocktail. some instances not working, some they have to apply even more, some suggesting that they have this. it creates a drowning sensation and other unpleasantness. and so this is really a policy debate, right? look, elections have consequences. the people who are in elective office get to decide, are we going to have a death penalty? 27 states in this country do. if we do have a death penalty, what is going to be our method of killing someone and what's appropriate and what's not? and we could debate night and day whether this is barbaric, whether it's not, whether it should be permitted. and that's ultimately up to the jurisdictions. and in this case, south carolina.
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>> idaho is now saying this is going to be they're potentially their their main method. if a bill that is awaiting the governor's approval is signed, what does that mean? does that mean you don't have a choice or that it's a fallback? >> so i think that it means that it's an option. and with regard to having an option, what it means is that, you know, if you select or you have really death by firing squad, i mean, some would say it's highly problematic. i'm probably one that believes that where they literally put a target on your heart and then you have multiple shooters who shoot, and then you die. and so listen, i don't know what society is becoming. i know we see a lot of these things on tv, but this is real life. and the supreme court, i should say the united states supreme court is really loathe to get involved in these cases. they leave it to the states. and in this particular case, the governor in south carolina will have the ultimate say with regard to whether the governor provides clemency or what have you or lets us go forward. >> and so far in this particular case in south carolina, it does
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not look like there is going to be a stay. so we will have to wait and see what happens. ultimately. but it does certainly sound barbaric when you hear the word firing squad in 2025. >> yes, it does. and that's why it's the first time in 15 years. yeah. >> joey jackson, it's awesome to see you, and i'm so glad you're here on a friday because we're going to party afterwards. >> amen. amen. >> thank you, thank you john. >> all right. quote. it makes me physically ill to think about the changes that could be coming. the new message from one teacher this morning as president trump prepares to dismantle, we thank the department of education and new this morning, deadly strikes in ukraine as vladimir zelenskyy prepares to present plans for a ceasefire it's the news. >> welcome back. but it's. >> also kind of not the news. >> all the information. >> on this show. >> so terrible. >> have i got news for you. new tomorrow on cnn. >> mornings. cough congestion.
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>> new today, the education secretary linda mcmahon, is speaking out, saying that she does not know exactly when president trump will sign his executive order trying to dismantle the education department. the department she now oversees, only saying that she is sure that he will. here's what she told fox news last hour. >> do we. >> need this department? >> no we don't. >> what about your employees? >> 4100 employees. >> what are they saying? i'm sure they're fearful they're going to lose their jobs. >> well, i think any time there's talk about shutting a department down, you know, the employees that are there are concerned about their jobs, but they're good off ramps for them. and in a country where we right now have over 8 million openings in jobs, i think there would be a lot of places for them to go. we'd like to help them get there. >> but lawmakers from both sides of the aisle have cautioned about the fallout and ramifications of eliminating the entire department, and this also throws well, states, students, teachers and school
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administrators into another area of uncertain, unchartered territory. with the new administration. joining us right now is one of the millions of educators with questions this morning, special education teacher lisa quant, who's been in the profession for 32 years working in illinois. she's also was a guest of a democratic member of congress at president trump's joint address earlier this week. lisa, thank you for being here. a lot has been said about the department of education, about public education, where it is succeeding lacking, and the range of ideas of where it needs to head. what's your reaction to hearing that from the new secretary of education this morning it's very troubling. >> it's not. >> only troubling, it's disturbing. and it makes me so sad for our kids. i don't. >> understand why. >> we're talking about. >> dismantling things, when, honestly, what we should be doing is strengthening them. it makes no sense at all. it's not
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fair. we have to protect our kids. we have to protect our families and our teachers. this is how people learn. and we have to give them equal rights to learning. getting rid of the department of education would get rid of things of medicare or medicaid. and the idea which gives our kids so much funding, it's it's seriously troubling. >> the it seems i want to play something else that we heard from the secretary this morning, because the way she views it, the way she's talking about it, is she sees dismantling the department as strengthening education for children. let me play this. she was asked about what it would mean dismantling the department for students and parents. >> i think we will see scores go up our nation's report card, which is called naep, which came out at the end of january, is what showed how far down, you know, since the department of education was established in 1980, we've spent over $1 trillion to see our scores continue to go down. we are not
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doing something right, and it's time to change it. >> would it affect. >> the teachers. >> if there's no more. >> department of education. >> no teachers will be there in the classrooms. they're they're hired locally. they are supervised on a local basis. the department of education doesn't have anything to do with hiring teachers. that's all done at a local level. >> she says it's not going to impact teachers like yourself at all. >> she is wrong. first of all, this funding is how we work. i mean, just title one programs in illinois. there's 17,000 jobs for teachers in illinois with funding over 800 million. so if you get rid of that funding, i mean, these things. same thing with ida programs. there's an estimated 14,000 jobs for teachers in illinois, with an estimated funding of $650 million. this is are things like occupational therapy, speech and language, mental health support.
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there's no way without and breaking it down and dismantling it, that we're going to be able to do our job the way we need to do it. our parents and our families rely on this. it makes me so sad. i can think of so many families and people that adopt kids that have special needs. let's be honest, we all learn differently and to take away from these kids and these families it's the same thing as if you privatize something. a lot of those private schools do not have to take kids with special needs, nor are they qualified to teach them and give them what they need. this is detrimental to to our profession and to our kids doing what they can do. we've seen kids do great things. you cannot base everything on this testing. that's absolutely ludicrous. so i mean, it really is an attack on our kids. not not even just the teachers, just mainly our kids and our families. and that breaks my heart. >> to the point that i've heard the secretary make again today. and we heard this from the president himself, and i've heard it from others, is that
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the reality is, is that president trump promised to make this move and has been doing that for a long time. he won the election and talking and campaigning about shutting down the department as part of his winning message from your perspective, lisa, how do you square that? and so many voters seem to be okay with it. and voting, voting for it with what you're experiencing. >> they don't understand. i get maybe lack lack of education on this subject, but but the the problem here is you have to educate yourself and you can't listen to just one side. and ultimately it's about what's doing best for kids of all modalities. you have to speak to that. and i don't think just because you're not living, it doesn't mean that it's not going to affect you. because i got news for you. it is. so you could be in that person's shoes. and this is about inclusion. and
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what you're doing is you're taking away from that. and that's that's not right. we're going back so many steps. i mean ida, this is this is their 50th anniversary. and they have given us so much funding and so many things that we need. i just don't think unless you're in those shoes, you need to kind of step out and look what's going on here, because you are affecting kids. these are tomorrow. >> do you? if this moves forward and you have worked in education for three decades, you're you're you're a special education teacher. what is the what are you going to what are you going to tell the families of the students that you're working with? >> i can't even think about it. it's tough. i'm not sure. we'll all try to make it work for them, but we don't have. we won't have the people. we won't have the services. whether it is occupational, whether it is mental health,
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whether it is speech and language. we won't have these people in our district, we just got a reading specialist and she's doing amazing things. we won't have her. and she's even only part time. so how do your kids get ahead? it's you're not going to be able to do that. you're not going to have the people to get it done. and these these families rely on that. >> and the question then becomes even more uncertain, because what do the states then fund if the money is going straight to the states, and then it's their job to, to to make those priorities and push that out. lisa, thank you very much. i really appreciate your time and your perspective on this. sarah. >> that was a real heartfelt conversation. thank you. kate. breaking news this morning, the first full jobs report of president trump's second term, released just moments ago. what it is signaling about the state of the u.s. economy and a dramatic rescue. a police officer saves a young boy who was on the brink of drowning. you got to see this.
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for the next anything. cnn business update the jobs report is brought to you by adp. always designing for people. this is cnn breaking news. >> this just in the united states economy, added 151,000 jobs in the month of february, which was lower than expected. this was the first full jobs report of president trump's second term. this was also a revision in january's job numbers as well. cnn's matt egan is here to break down the report. bad or mixed. mixed. mixed. >> this is the first. >> report card. >> on the trump economy. >> of his second term. >> and i think we got. some mixed. >> numbers here. so the big number., 151,000 jobs were added in february. >> now this. >> is actually. >> a modest improvement from january, which was revised. >> lower to 125,000. >> so this is a slight
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acceleration i think the bad news though is the unemployment rate still historically low. but it. did edge a little bit higher from 4% to 4.1%. now, when we were digging into some of the different industries and sectors here, a couple of things i would just call out. one of them is leisure and hospitality, showing a negative number, losing 16,000 jobs. that's something we should keep an eye on because we know that consumer spending, consumer confidence has taken a bit of a hit recently also. another thing we need to keep an eye on is government. government jobs. government hiring. did slow down significantly in february, and we know the trump administration is trying to cut costs that elon musk is slashing federal workers. that's not something that we really expect to be a big factor in today's report. but going forward, that could be a big driver of the economy. this is looking at job growth by month. you can see again a slight acceleration, a slight rebound in february. but again, obviously the economy is adding
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fewer jobs than it had been in 2023. and in parts of 2024 as well. this is a historic milestone though. we're talking about now 50 consecutive months of uninterrupted job growth. that is the second longest period of employment expansion on record, second only to that recovery after the great recession. one more thing i want to call out here, because when we think about the economy, obviously it's all about the cost of living right now. i think there's some good news here. we saw another month of solid wage gains, so paychecks increased by 4% year over year. that's good because it shows solid demand for workers. it's also good because that is well ahead of the most recent inflation rate, which did edge higher, but it was at 3%. so paychecks are growing faster than prices are. and that's something we want to see continue to happen. you can see it in this chart right. for the longest time in 2021 and 2022, the opposite was happening, right? that's why everyone was so upset because prices were going up and wages could barely
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keep up. now we've seen a reversal where paychecks are beating prices. so look, markets kind of reacting i would say kind of mixed to this report. right. markets were kind of flat beforehand kind of trying to figure out where to go after this. i think that there's a lot of confusion about the economy right now. we were hoping for some clarity. i'm not realept. and, you know, it's uncertainty that usually makes the markets do crazy things. the tariffs probably affecting the markets a lot more than this report right now. >> absolutely. >> all right. thank you sir. appreciate it. john. >> all right i want to bring in cnn global economic analyst and global business columnist, associate editor of the financial times, rana foroohar. rana, a little bit less a little bit lower than expectations on jobs creation. and the unemployment rate ticked up again, a little bit off expectations, but more or less in line if we can take a look at stock futures right now, the markets basically reacting. they're flat. they're flat. it's notable they're flat because it's been a really bad week. you know this could have been an opportunity to boost
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gains there. what is it that investors are looking at with the report today. what were they hoping for. >> you know. >> i think. >> if we'd have seen numbers. >> that were significantly. >> worse than. >> this, you might have seen more of a market reaction. it's just another beat in. >> a very uncertain period. >> i mean, you and i have spoken about this in the last few days. markets have been up and down because trump has been back and forth on tariffs. i think investors are just trying to figure out what the heck's going on, what the white house plan is. you know, that's the thing. if the white house had been communicating a clear economic strategy and even a coherent tariff strategy, i think that, you know, there'd be more of a sense of certainty. you know, you might even see a slight pickup because the fundamentals of a lot of stocks right now are, are good. i mean, you know, the truth is that the american market, despite what's going on, is still kind of the prettiest house on the ugly block. but at the same time,
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every time there's a negative beat, you see, say, european stocks gaining over american ones, even though european fundamentals aren't as good. this is all about investors just trying to get their sea legs in the trump administration. >> and again, their stock futures right there ticking up a little bit flat, more or less flat. the good news obviously is 50 straight months of growth, job growth which is which is a wonderful thing. the flip side of that is this week, which the uncertainty levels, the concerns i think are high. just talking to people and listening to people, listening to investors, listening to regular people out there, they're higher than they've been in ages. yeah. >> yeah for sure. and listen, no matter who was in the white house right now, no matter what was going on, i would have expected something of a slowdown. you know, it's important to remember that economic cycles are just that they're cycles. the economy goes up and down. we are honestly about six years overdue for recession. if you discount
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that quick covid blip, a while back. and so it's not unexpected that people are going to be, you know, tightening up their wallets a little bit, thinking about the future. certainly a lot of companies i talked to are just you know, if not buttoning up and pulling back a bit, they're not expanding. they're not looking to do anything radical right now, very much in a wait and see mode. >> the big concern and you started to see the word floated over the last few weeks in the wall street journal, among other places in the journal, has been tough, very tough on president trump and his trade policy. they wrote a whole article about the possibility of stagflation, people talking about stagflation, again, whenever that happens, you know, their economic concerns. just a quote from that article. president trump's decision to dramatically raise tariffs on imports threatens the u.s. with an uncomfortable combination of weaker or even stagnant growth and higher prices, sometimes called stagnation. the idea being inflation is not going to go down and unemployment is going to go up. and, you know, basically everything is going wrong at the same time. how
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concerned do you think people should be that this could become a reality? >> i think it's a big concern. i mean, right now i'm more concerned about just straight up recession. i don't feel that we have super strong signals yet because we don't know what's going to happen with tariffs. if if i felt certain that donald trump was going to go full on 25% tariffs on on canada and mexico, europe, china, the whole bit, then i would say, yeah, stagflation is coming. but because we don't know, i'm more concerned about a slowdown now. it is possible given all that's happening in the world, even if you didn't see tariffs, even if you didn't see a trade war, i mean, you know, you've still got conflict around the world. you've got china, you know, in a debt crisis, you've got europe. really with not great economic fundamentals. so, you know, anything is possible. but i would want to see a few more months of higher inflation before i say stagflation. >> all right. well, everyone
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with fox. >> news earlier this. >> week, saying that. >> he had talked to doctors. >> treating folks on the front lines in texas. take a listen to what he said. >> richard bartlett is. >> an. >> emergency room physician from midland and and amarillo, and they have treated most of the patients, actually over 108 patients in the last 48 hours. and they're getting very, very good results. they report from. budesonide, which is a steroid. it's a 30 year old steroid. and there and clarithromycin and also cod liver oil which has high high concentrations of vitamin a and vitamin d. and they're saying what they describe as almost miraculous and instantaneous recovery from that. >> now. >> kennedy himself notes. >> that these. >> are untested.
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>> treatments. >> but that. >> doctor he mentioned. >> doctor richard bartlett. >> our team. >> found that he had faced disciplinary action from the. texas medical board in 2003 for, quote. unusual use of risk filled. >> medications, including. >> prescribing antibiotics and. >> steroids in. >> five patients, including two children. >> now. >> this wasn't. >> for measles. >> it was for other things. >> but the board found. >> that bartlett. >> had misdiagnosed their. >> symptoms and mismanaged. >> their care. now, cnn. >> reached out to. >> doctor bartlett. >> we didn't. >> hear back. >> but. >> they did. >> note that. >> in this. >> document back in 2003. that he. >> maintained that he treated. >> the patients. >> appropriately with no adverse outcomes. >> now. >> guys. >> he also. >> had touted. >> a silver. >> bullet. >> what he called regiment. >> of similar things, steroid and antibiotic and. >> something else during covid. >> now, even. >> folks who. >> have worked. >> in. >> the trump administration. >> in the past in health roles are urging folks., really?
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>> doctor brett giroir. >> who served in a health. >> capacity in the first. >> trump administration. tweeted earlier., thanking the secretary for emphasizing the critical importance of measles vaccination, but also saying please do not rely on vitamin a to save your child in the united states. >> he says it helps in africa, where there is a deficiency, not here. sarah. >> those are some pretty strong words just to level the playing field here about getting the vaccination. all right. tell me what is going on in new mexico where you have this death. but they the person did test positive for measles, but they haven't necessarily linked his death to measles. what's happening there? >> yeah. this is a bit of a confusing situation. so this is a county, lee county, which is just over the border from those west texas counties where the outbreak really is centered. and they have had nine cases already of measles. now, we learned last night that a resident had died and subsequently tested positive for measles. we know that they were unvaccinated and they hadn't sought medical care. so they are still investigating the cause of the death here, not yet calling it a measles death. but sarah, this would be very alarming to see two deaths from
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measles at this point in the outbreak, where we expect there are probably a lot more cases than have been picked up. and we do expect an update from texas today on their cases. >> because it was basically eradicated, you know, and now to hear that there's a possibility of a second death, the first being a child in west texas, is really upsetting. meg tirrell, thank you for all your reporting on this. it's so important to us and to the people who are watching this show. appreciate it. kate. >> so today, the white house is planning to host a first of its kind crypto summit. ceos, investors. bold name. members of the cryptocurrency industry will all be there. and it also was just yesterday that president trump signed an executive order to create a strategic bitcoin reserve. now, the white house czar for a.i. and crypto wrote on x that the government currently has about 200,000 bitcoin, calling any bitcoin deposited into the reserve a digital fort knox. joining me right now is crypto reporter for
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axios brady dale. brady i need your help on a lot of this. for the uninitiated what. first and foremost on the summit, what are you expecting to happen at this summit? i mean, what are you hearing about this? >> i think it's going. >> to be kind of a. >> cheerleading moment. >> you know. >> it's. >> the first time. >> that the. >> white. >> house has been enthusiastic about this nascent and somewhat controversial industry. so i think there'll be a lot of that. i mean, it's the trump administration, so i expect some kind of big reveal today. you know, they always like to have tv. the the digital asset announcement. that was yesterday's news. it's old news. so i'm betting there will be something in some other corner of policy that will happen today at the summit. but who knows what i don't know what. day when it comes to what changes come next. but you said that the reserve news is old news. i need help, i need to understand this. so he signs this executive order thursday establishing a
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strategic bitcoin reserve and a separate stockpile of other cryptocurrencies. i hear that i think of the strategic petroleum reserve. what exactly is this? >> well. >> so that's the big question, right? like if it's a strategic reserve that implies it's a reserve for something. and we we don't know what that something is. you know. >> i mean, if you took it. >> in fact. >> all the strategic petroleum reserve is for it's an emergency stockpile of crude oil that is dipped into, you know, the definition of emergency is kind of. >> the price. >> goes up. president. yeah, exactly. like up to the president or in time of natural disaster or whatever. help me with this. when does crypto when does it become a crypto emergency? >> i don't know. i mean, that's the thing. there's no answer. i mean, i think probably what the administration will say is this is a way of bolstering an industry that's become very strong in the united states. and, you know, that's a decent argument. we've also heard other politicians argue that by holding on to bitcoin, we could
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it'll go way up in value and we could sell it later and pay off a lot of debt. also a fine argument. but like we we've got a giant pile of gold that we're not doing anything with and that we don't actually need. and we haven't done that either. so yeah, that's the big question for me is if there's if this is strategic, what is the strategy? what's the point? we still we still don't know that. >> help us. definition of terms is kind of where we stand on on that one. but also just to note, we all do remember or should recall that donald trump has a financial stake in a crypto business. he has been very and people within the crypto industry played a pretty prominent role in helping to fund his campaign and his inaugural fund. what is it with donald trump and crypto? and do you see a conflict of interest here? >> well, i think there's definitely real dangers of conflicts of interest. i mean, especially he has this meme coin that people can buy at any time, you know, and do it in ways that make it hard to trace. so that is a concern and will continue
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to be a concern. the story, i mean, but what i do believe the core story for the trump administration is, however, is that they see that the cryptocurrency industry is is one in which people are making a lot of money. there's things getting built, you know, like bitcoin mines, there's jobs getting created. i think they just like that and they want to move that forward. and then it also happens that they've got this big new bunch of political allies, which also helps. but i do think at the end of the day it is just like trump likes bringing jobs to america and sees this as a fresh new opportunity to do that. >> all right. stand by to stand by. it's good to see you, brady. thanks for the help. a new hour of cnn news central starts now. >> we begin with breaking news. the first jobs report of president donald trump's second term just dropped the numbers of job losses worse than expected. not good, but salaries are on the rise. not bad. a real mixed bag. we will discuss. plus, the death knell for the department

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