mean, but what i do believe the core story for the trump administration is, however, is that they see that the cryptocurrency industry is is one in which people are making a lot of money. there's things getting built, you know, like bitcoin mines, there's jobs getting created. i think they just like that and they want to move that forward. and then it also happens that they've got this big new bunch of political allies, which also helps. but i do think at the end of the day it is just like trump likes bringing jobs to america and sees this as a fresh new opportunity to do that. >> all right. stand by to stand by. it's good to see you, brady. thanks for the help. a new hour of cnn news central starts now. >> we begin with breaking news. the first jobs report of president donald trump's second term just dropped the numbers of job losses worse than expected. not good, but salaries are on the rise. not bad. a real mixed bag. we will discuss. plus, the death knell for the department

of education. the new secretary of education says the department doesn't need to exist. three state attorneys general are already fighting back over the cutting of grants for teachers and chilling text messages could give investigators a better idea of what exactly happened the night. four university of idaho students were killed in their own house. the accounts from the victims roommates as they allegedly listened to the killer. i'm sara sidner with john berman and kate bolduan. this is cnn news central. >> all right. we do have breaking news. the new jobs report just released. this comes days after these days of economic turmoil. so the numbers were a tick lower than expected, but still solid, 151,000 jobs added in february. the expectation was 160,000. the unemployment rate rose to 4.1%. still decent numbers. now, as

for stock futures this morning, so far they have been more or less flat. actually you can see right now they're now ticking downward, but ever so slightly. investors basically saying this doesn't answer a lot of questions for them. and man do they have a lot of questions after this week. kevin liptak is at the white house. first though, matt egan is with us. give us the dirt on this report. matt. >> well, john, this report showed solid job growth. 151,000 jobs were added in february. that is an improvement from january, which had been revised lower to 125,000. i think the more disappointing news here was the unemployment rate. it was expected to hold steady at 4%. it didn't. it ticked higher to 4.1%. of course, that's still historically low. you can see on that chart that there's been just a slight rebound in the last month in terms of the rate of hiring. so relative to all of those concerns that you were

just alluding to, john, about the economy. these numbers are not bad, right? they don't suggest that anything is really going off the rails in the jobs market right now. digging into some of the numbers here, as far as where jobs were at and where they weren't, just a couple of things i would call out. we did see that leisure and hospitality and retail lost jobs last month. that's something we've got to keep an eye on because we know that consumer confidence and consumer spending has taken a bit of a hit. the other big number here is the government workforce, because we saw that overall government hiring slowed. that's because while state and local governments added jobs, we actually saw a drop in the number of employees for federal workers, that fell by 10,000. and keep in mind, that's largely not even accounting for the mass layoffs that have been presided over by elon musk and doge as they try to cut federal workers. to sum it up, i talked to joe brusuelas over at rsm. he said he thinks

this is a goldilocks report, right? it's not so hot that it would raise any sort of alarms about inflation. it's also not so cold that it's going to really people about the idea of a real slowdown in the economy. there was also another milestone. we see that the u.s. economy has now added jobs for 50 months in a row. that is the second longest period of uninterrupted job growth in american history, second only to that recovery from the great re that recovery from the great recession. so listen, you put it all together, i think kind of a mixed report, but also better than fear. >> better than i think the worst case scenario, though, as we said, may not answer all the questions that investors have at the end of this tumultuous week. let's go to the white house now. kevin liptak is standing by there. and kevin, it's a little bit before the white house can give its official response. but i am curious how you think they will approach this 50 straight months of job growth, 48 of

which happened during the biden administration? >> yeah, i think they'll welcome this report. this is the first full month that fell under the trump administration. you'll remember when the jobs came in slightly below expectations last month. they said it was a reflection of a biden economy that was worse than anyone expected. this month, they're slightly better, so you can probably expect them to take full credit for it. but i think in reality, what the real sort of win here for the white house is that this job market is healthy enough to absorb some of the shocks that are still coming. you know, this jobs report, as matt said, reflected a 10,000 job decline in the government sector. you can expect that is going to increase as time goes on as these government cuts take full effect, perhaps seen in jobs reports later this spring. and i think, you know, when you talk to trump allies, they certainly see plenty of flashing warning lights in the economy, whether it's from these massive job cuts that are coming at the hand

of elon musk or whether it's the uncertainty caused by the president's tariff regime, they know that this is coming. they know that there could be some trouble ahead when it comes to the economy. so a good jobs report today, i think is enough to at least ease some concerns that at least the labor market will be able to absorb some of this uncertainty. but already you've seen just in the last day, the president and the white house trying to ease back on some of the more whipsaw aspects of this. you saw the president delay some of the tariffs, for example, you saw the president tell elon musk that he wanted a more finely tuned approach to government cuts. so certainly you see some calibration, i think, in the white house. but when it comes to this particular jobs report, i think it will be a welcome sign here among the president and the president's aides. >> shannon, canada is being played as a full scale retreat from the white house on tariffs, at least for now. kevin liptak

at the white house, thank you very much for that. and our thanks to matt egan as well, kate. >> keep a close eye on that. and we're also watching this. it's still unclear when president trump will make his move to try and dismantle the department of education, but what is clear, according to his new education secretary, is that he will go through with it. >> do we need this department? >> no we don't. >> what about your employees? 4100 employees. what are they saying? i'm sure they're fearful they're going to lose their jobs. >> i think any time there's talk about shutting a department down, you know, the employees that are there are concerned about their jobs, but they're good off ramps for them. and in a country where we right now have over 8 million openings in jobs, i think there would be a lot of places for them to go, and we'd like to help them get there. >> when it comes to education front, there's also now a new, new legal action on this front. three state attorneys general are suing the trump administration over funding for teachers, specifically teacher training programs. joining us right now is one of the ag's leading this lawsuit. the

attorney general of new jersey, matt platkin. it's good to see you, attorney general. thank you for being here. so the administration. >> thanks. >> so much for having. >> me. absolutely. the you're now part of multiple lawsuits against the trump administration just since he took office. this one is about hundreds of millions of dollars for teacher training programs. why take this one on? >> well. >> look, this. >> is the latest. >> example where. >> this administration. >> has shown an. >> utter disregard. >> for. >> what congress has. >> said and. >> for the law. and these. programs that. we're talking about. >> ay crital. >> we have a national. >> teacher shortage. >> in the pipeline for our. >> kids. >> and these programs make sure that kids in rural communities. >> and kids in urban communities. >> have quality teachers. we make. >> sure we have enough teachers trained. >> in math and science. >> and. >> for kids.

>> with special needs. and it's part of, as you just saw, secretary mcmahon say, a broader assault and unprecedented assault on public education and on our families across this country. and we're going to stand up for them. >> the the supreme court this week rejected the trump administration's attempt to freeze $2 billion in foreign aid coming out of usaid. send it back to a lower court. and in seeing that and thinking about the lawsuits that you're involved in, this one included, i kind of think that the dissent that was led by justice alito, you could almost try to apply it to kind of the argument that we were hearing and what you might be facing in these legal challenges going forward. let me read part of this dissent that that he wrote. does a single district court judge who likely lacks jurisdiction have the unchecked power to compel the government of the united states to pay out and probably lose forever? $2 billion to 2 billion taxpayer dollars? the answer to that question should be an emphatic no. but a majority of the court apparently thinks otherwise. i am stunned, change

the dollar amount, but apply it to kind of this overall struggle, which is what you are taking on in court. multiple in multiple different ways, which is the question which is about executive power and the extent of it. i mean, what do you say to this dissent? >> well, i. >> think the key word there is that it was a dissent. the majority of the court said that the president is not a king, that he cannot unilaterally strike billions of dollars of spending, in one case, at least. trillions of dollars of spending, spending that went to things like medicaid and early childhood programs and programs for our seniors and programs for our veterans, that he can't just wake up and say, when congress passes a law and the president signs it and appropriates spending, he can't decide not to spend it because he doesn't like something. there's a way to do this. he can congress. he has majorities in both chambers in congress, and he's not even properly attempting to follow the legal process laid out in

our constitution. and more importantly, what he's doing is harming people. he is harming our residents. you just heard secretary mcmahon so callously say she's going to kill the department, that she has been sworn in to run, okay, that department makes sure that kids with special needs have proper services in schools across this country. that department makes kids in low income communities of all shapes and sizes have quality education. as a parent of two kids, i don't just want to throw that out simply because the president doesn't like it. the law is the law and he has to follow it. >> the president's reaction to all of this, the roadblocks that these lawsuits and the courts have presented so far in early in his administration can kind of be summed up with something that he said back in mid-february. let me play this for you. >> we're being hindered by courts where they file in certain courts where it's very hard to win, and a judge will stop us, and a judge will say that it doesn't make any

difference what you find. you just keep paying the money. that's a hell of a way to be. and i follow the courts. i have to follow the law. all it means is that we appeal, but that gives people time to cover their tracks. and that's what they do what's your message to him? >> well, i agree with him. he has to follow what the courts say. and in this, in the usaid case, the court that he's talking about was one that he has boasted about the appointments he's made to it. he they have boasted regularly about how they've remade the federal judiciary. no one is saying that he can't go to congress and seek new laws. his challenge is he's not been able to get anything through congress, because what he's asking them to do is so unpopular. but what he can't do is take laws that are on the books, take spending that has been appropriated, that people are relying upon for fundamental services, for healthcare, for education, for law enforcement

and say, you know what? i can't get congress to do what they are lawfully able to do. so i'm going to do it the illegal way. and when a court says he can't, he has to follow that. >> it sounds like more lawsuits likely to come. new jersey attorney general, thank you very much for coming on. sara. >> all right. no one is answering. i'm freaking out. those texts from students in a home were one by one. they were being killed. the latest in the case against a suspected idaho college student killer and warning that the impending job cuts at veterans affairs could put veterans dealing with mental health issues at risk. how the department's crisis responders are fighting back now. and just minutes from now, the opening bell will ring and we'll see how the markets are responding to the first jobs report of president trump's second term. >> some people have minor joint pain plus certain stomach problems. they may not be able to take just anything for pain. that's why doctors recommend

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the national veteran's hotline say they are extremely alarmed, one staffer telling cnn if there are not enough employees to be there for the crisis hotline, then that's going to definitely cause a lapse in the mission, which is veteran safety. it will be a very significant lapse. responders often talk to former service members who are in their deepest despair. the mandated return to office having an interesting consequence because some responders are forced now to have extremely sensitive conversations and exposed open cubicles where everyone can hear. joining us now is the ceo of iraq and afghanistan veterans of america, allison jaslow. she is also an iraq war veteran. first to you, in hearing from these responders saying that they are having to sometimes go to their cars to take these phone calls to keep them private and that there could be deep cuts to this service that basically answers the call when a veteran is in a mental health

crisis. what is this going to mean, and how will this impact the men and women that you serve? well, i. >> think. >> what's most concerning is we don't need the very. >> people who its job. >> is. >> to reduce. >> the stress level of somebody who's calling them in crisis, to also. >> be experiencing. >> undue stress themselves. >> right. >> so. >> you know, i think. >> who knows. >> if the department of. >> veterans affairs. >> will actually. >> go through. >> with the cuts that were. leaked from. >> the va this week. >> but just. >> having to deal with that uncertainty and added. >> stress level. >> on the very people. >> who are. >> supposed to be supporting and giving best in class care to. >> our nation's. >> veterans should bother all. >> of us. >> what are you hearing from the veterans that you serve? what are they experiencing as they hear some of this? the latest story was that 70,000 jobs may be cut from veterans affairs. >> well, you know, we actually just. >> had many of our best and brightest members in. >> washington, d.c. with us this week. several of them. >> are federal employees. >> themselves. what your viewers

may or may not know is that nearly 30% of the federal workforce is veterans. right now, over at the department. >> of defense. >> it's nearly 45% that are veterans. and some of our veterans actually work in. >> the va. >> they thankfully still have their jobs. but what they told us when they were in town this week is that they're dealing with a lot of stress themselves, but also some of them who are leaders in their own right are carrying the burden of having to ease the anxiety and stress of coworkers. and honestly, that's distracting them from being able to do the job that we need them to do, both to help get veterans the benefits that they've earned and deserved, and also to be able to make sure that they have the care that they need. >> just a curiosity. i mean, we do hear a lot from from all politicians truly, who say that they really care about veterans. they want to do right by veterans. the trump administration and trump himself has constantly said that he supports veterans, that he would not hurt veterans. do veterans believe that now in seeing that these potential cuts could be quite severe, some of whom have already been laid off from the federal government well, i would

say that there are politicians from both parties that are usually just giving us lip service when they say that. >> you know, and i think, you know, actions speak for themselves. and so, again, you know, i don't know if the current administration will go through with the cuts that they've detailed, but the growth in the workforce over the last several years was very important. you know, we passed what was called the pact act, which was a huge investment in veterans health care, one of the largest investments that has been made in decades in veterans health care. and it's allowing vets who have cancer because they had toxic exposure during their wartime service get the care that they need. and the last thing we want to do is rip that support out from under them. in other words, you know, we have veterans who thankfully were able to survive wartime but are dealing with the impact of their wartime service back here at home. and we should be making sure that we're taking care of them, in part because if we still want to fight our nation's war with an all volunteer force, we need to make sure that everyone who's

raising their hand and signing an oath to serve in our volunteer force knows that we're not going to abandon them on the other side of that service. >> and suicide rates are disturbingly high for veterans coming back into this country after dealing with war. one of the things that that i'd like you to speak to is how difficult it is for someone to come back from the intensity of a place like afghanistan or iraq, and then return and try to get their footing and find jobs here. how hard is it for veterans to try and reenter the workforce? >> we know, to your point about the veteran suicide crisis. unfortunately, i don't know a veteran who doesn't know another veteran who's died by suicide. so it's something that we still need to raise awareness around as a country. i appreciate you bringing it up today and still aggressively tackle. and i think there's a lot of reasons why veterans are taking their lives. you know, i have a buddy who was in rotc with me, who he dealt with survivor's guilt when he came back and just couldn't shake it. we lost a member in december who

struggled with ptsd and took his life. but you know, i think to your point earlier, just reintegrating into society can be very hard for many veterans. you know, we we do a number of things when we, build people into the service members that they are into the soldiers that they are. right. and a lot of it is like breaking them down in boot camp or basic training getting them to, to learn how to take orders. and then when they get out of the military, they go into a civilian society that doesn't function the way the military does, that doesn't have the structure that the military does. that is more fend for yourself than the military is where we're taught to get each other's backs. and that can just be really hard on the average veteran. and if they don't have, you know, the right support network and or, you know, appropriate battle buddy like they did when they were in the service to help them through that. that can just cause undue stress. if they have a family, makes them feel like at times they can't provide for their family. and that can, you know, have veterans go to the brink as well. so, you know, even if they

don't, you know, deal with with what you would believe are the common stressors of wartime service and what they might be exposed to. there's just the stress of reintegrating into civilian society that can do a real number on many veterans. >> i know the veterans affairs tries to help with that as well, especially the crisis responders who are very concerned that their jobs are being impacted here. allison jaslow, thank you so much. i really appreciate you coming on and sort of giving us an important perspective this hour. kate. >> thank you. >> we are minutes away from the opening bell on wall street. how markets are reacting to will be reacting to the latest jobs numbers and and a full week of whiplash over president trump's on again, off again tariff strategy. and there's also new reporting this morning from the associated press. tens of thousands of images, including war heroes and military firsts, have been marked to be deleted by the defense department as part of the effort to eliminate dni programs. and. influence the

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lower over the last few minutes. seeing as vanessa yurkevich is here to share this moment of the markets opening night. >> we got. >> one minute. >> but here we go. >> 151,000 jobs added. a little bit lower than expected, but still solid. the unemployment rate ticking up to 4.1% from 4%, but still historically low. interesting where we have seen job gains. last month we saw it in health care, in finance, transportation and warehousing. but where we saw declines is interesting. leisure and hospitality. this is potentially reflecting how businesses are feeling. consumer spending, what they're going to be spending in the future. and then overall government jobs increase. but at the federal government level decreased by 10,000. and then when you break it out a little bit, u.s. postal service, those are where the declines happened. 6700 jobs there and other federal workers losses of about 3500 jobs. wages, though

important, wages rose 4% year over year. that's good because that's keeping up with inflation. even better than inflation, which is about 3%. and i think we are just about open here. but futures were up mixed. and here we. >> go yesterday. this is. >> this is yesterday. this is not live okay. >> to be clear we will see the numbers from today cycle in in a minute or two okay. >> there they go. >> yeah i think yesterday right now. >> but we know that markets all week john were reacting to so much news. they were reacting to tariffs coming on going off. and they were presumably going to start reacting this morning to this jobs report, which is the first under the second trump administration, folks are going to be paying attention to this. this could be a precursor of what's to come. still a solid number this morning. but investors are definitely going to be parsing through this report to try to figure out what it means for the future and what it means in comparison to what the trump administration is trying to do with the economy. and some of their moves on

tariffs. are these are these the right numbers? okay. >> the raw numbers right now, you don't see percentages. what you see is the market is down a very little bit, relatively speaking, in terms of percent turning negative over the last 20 or 30 minutes or so, but flattish certainly compared to the last few days. >> definitely a moderation compared to what we've seen in the past couple of days. but a bit down on this news. >> vanessa yurkevich thank you for sharing this live moment with us, kate. >> all happening live people. let's we'll continue to track how the markets are reacting, but let's get the latest right now. joining us is joining us from the white house. is the director of the white house national economic council kevin hassett. kevin, thank you so much for coming back in. kate. let's start with the jobs report. what do you see in this jobs report? >> yeah, i. >> think it's i'm. >> much more positively. >> surprised by the. numbers than. >> the market. >> the bottom line is that the biden administration created a lot of jobs, and they tended to be government jobs. about 25% of the job creation was government jobs. and we actually, as president trump intended,

reduced government jobs by about 10,000, as you guys just mentioned. and then the other thing we're trying to do is increase manufacturing jobs and manufacturing jobs, which you didn't mention were up about 10,000, with about 9000 of those being new jobs for auto workers, which, as you know, are very sticky and high paying jobs. and so i think it's a fantastic report. it's showing exactly what president trump intends to do. he intends to reduce government spending, to get rid of wasteful government jobs and to create manufacturing jobs. and that's what you see. finally, there are a bunch of signs that the flu was going to have a big impact on this job report. and that's what i think the travel and leisure thing that you guys just mentioned came from is that people were home sick and they weren't going out and going to hotels and so on. and so i expect that that's going to reverse in the next month. and it's another reason why i was positively surprised about this. the people who account for flu in the jobs data were saying this number was going to be maybe even about 100,000 lower than what we saw. >> on. i saw economists saying that because only the job cuts that were included that were lost by february 15th are

included, that they believe that the full scope of the cuts that we've seen within the federal workforce are not going to be reflected in this, in this report. do you agree with that? is that going to be more reflected in next month? >> right. >> yeah, yeah. the way to think about how it works is that they have a survey week. and the survey week is like around the 12th of february. and so whatever happens through then that's what's in the monthly report. so you don't have the stuff after that. so government workers will probably have a bigger decline next month. and i expect that manufacturing jobs will go up even more as we get closer and closer to the april deadline, where people need to onshore production if they want to avoid tariffs. >> let's talk about the tariffs. what happened between tuesday and thursday? tuesday and today that changed things. if it wasn't market reaction that changed the president's mind, what was it. >> no, it was not. yeah. this is a drug war, not a trade war. and the bottom line is it's a negotiation. it's an ongoing negotiation. i can tell you that i've been in the situation room

looking at photos of places that we think are producing fentanyl. and so president trump has adjusted the adjusted the parameters over time as he's seen progress, because we need to have some progress. tens of thousands of americans are dying of fentanyl. and we've seen the canadians and the mexicans crack down in a good way. as you saw, the mexicans sent us, i think it was 29 of their hardest criminals to help us round up the people who are dealing fentanyl. and so as we get progress with them, then we adjust the parameters and that's what's going on. so it's what happens when there's a negotiation. >> so you actually think that the fentanyl problem became less of a cross border problem in in in a matter of days. >> we've seen progress like they're sending criminals here. they're cracking down on cartels. we've seen pictures of facilities that are being shut down. and so president trump has been impressed by some of the progress. not like obviously, in the end, what's going to matter is are there fewer deaths from fentanyl in america? that's the thing that we're going to care the most about. and frankly, we've been very disappointed in

what china is doing, where they're basically producing all this stuff and even subsidizing it in order to harm americans. and so that's why the china tariffs are even more than they were before. >> as part of the conversation. and you've expressed very clearly to me that that this when it comes to especially mexico and canada, that this is about being a drug war. but at the same time, the president has also insisted that it is other things, that it's about a trade deficit, it's about making as happened from the was said from the podium in the white house briefing room, that it was to bring auto manufacturing back to the united states. so it also comes with he calls himself, you know, the tariff, a tariff president, if he believes in tariffs so much, why would he remove them? why would he not just keep them in place? >> there are two phases to what we're doing right now. the first phase is to go after the border and fentanyl. and

there's been a huge amount of progress on the border and quite a bit of progress on fentanyl. that phase ends on april 1st, on april 2nd. then we begin the reciprocal trade phase. and at the reciprocal trade phase, then we're going to look at things like, you know, what's going on with the trade deficit and adjust parameters accordingly. if canada and mexico make a heck of a lot of progress between now and then, then whatever happens with the reciprocal actions will be what happens to canada and mexico. but if we think that the progress on fentanyl hasn't been that impressive, then what's going on right now will be in addition to what happens in april. and that's something that the president has been very clear about from the beginning. >> one of the things that we have seen is market reaction to the uncertainty of the whiplash or the back and forth, whatever you want to call it in terms of tariffs on tariffs off. one day, the president had said, you know, there and it was said from the white house there were going to be no exemptions with these tariffs as they were put on. and now we've seen how this has gone back and forth in the just recent days when it comes to

april 2nd, when he says the big one, when the reciprocal tariffs are going to be coming into place, why should anyone believe that april 2nd is actually going to happen? given what we've seen in the last week? >> well, what else we've seen is tariffs put on everything and then tariffs put on the things that have a lot of u.s. content. that's what the usmca products are. and so if you got a whole bunch of car parts that are in the u.s. and they're assembled in mexico and then shipped back into the u.s., then we're not putting a tariff on the u.s. part. so that's the thing that was changed in part because or mostly because all because of the progress we've made on fentanyl. the reciprocal trade act will be something where the president pushes a policy that says, whatever your tariffs are on us, then that's what we're going to put on you. and that's what americans believe is fair. and that, i've got to say, is the final thing, is that when that tariff revenue comes in, that's revenue that doesn't have to be raised from taxes. it's revenue that can be used to cut people's taxes on overtime and on social security benefits and so on. and it's not the end of the story. so it's

not like there's going to be a tariff over here, and then the money is just going to disappear. it's a tariff that's going to help us reduce income taxes and balance the budget. >> let us see what happens between now and then, because it seems like quite a lot. kevin, thank you very much for coming on. >> thanks, kate. thanks. >> all right. a new report from the associated press this morning. pictures of the enola gay. the aircraft used to drop an atomic bomb in world war 2nd may have been deleted by the pentagon, seemingly because those images had the word gay in the name. more on that ahead. plus, no one is answering. i'm freaking out. terrifying text messages shed light on the night. four idaho college students were murdered in their home. >> an alternative. >> to pills, voltaren is a clinically proven arthritis pain relief gel which penetrates deep to target the source of pain

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>> well. >> if you. >> consider what trump's. >> position has. >> been since the. >> inaugural, i'm sure. >> putin is going. >> oh, yeah, right. >> not going to happen. >> because really, what trump has. >> done is switched sides. >> we've been. >> supporting ukraine for the last actually. 15 years. really seriously in the last. >> three years. >> since the russian invasion. and all of the talk from trump is that ukraine was responsible for the war. i'm sure that putin is going. yeah, right. the reality is that trump switched sides here. you take a look what happened at the un with the various resolutions that were put forth. united states switched sides from working with our european allies. and now in those working with and voting with what north korea and russia and china. it's incredible. we've got to see what's absolutely necessary is for the united states to continue to support ukraine inff

to remain an independent country and to push back on russia's invasion. unfortunately, what's happened is that trump gave it all away, and now maybe he can regain something here. i hope so, but it's going to be the proof will be if he actually does it. >> we'll see if he follows through on this new threat of new sanctions against russia. look, the u.s. is has a delegation that will sit down with the ukrainian delegation in saudi arabia next week. what's your what's your expectation from what will come with that? >> well, the good news is that the that the trump adtion finally decided that, hey, maybe we ought to be working with ukraine on what the future of ukraine is going to be. unfortunately, the initial message was that the united states would not involve ukraine, but rather trump would work directly with putin, trying to the two of them figuring out

what would happen to ukraine. this is a good news. this is actually good. this is about ukraine, about the future of ukraine. and certainly, as zelenskyy says, nothing about ukraine without ukraine being involved in it. so it's a good step. hopefully it will be useful. >> all right. you said, as i said on the armed services committee, i want to ask you a question about a report that does concern the pentagon. it comes from the associated press and the efforts led by secretary of defense pete hegseth, to purge the department of defense of all references to diversity, equity and inclusion. the ap writes that in the efforts to do this, there have been some unintended consequences. quote, in some cases, photos seem to be flagged for removal simply because their file included the word gay, including service members with that last name and an image of the b-29 aircraft enola gay, which dropped the first atomic bomb on hiroshima, japan, during world war ii. your reaction to that?

>> well, that particular thing, it's just you can get a good laugh out of it. but the reality is what they are doing is really seriously harming the ability of the military to have people that are capable of providing the necessary work, the necessary services, and there are people of all kinds of every ethnic group, women, maybe transgender, gay, all of those. those are people that have served with distinction in the military. and this purge that's going on is very, very disruptive. and the men and women in the military, whether they are gay or transgender or ethnic, they are concerned. they don't know what their future is. and you take a look at the purge that's taken place at the top of the military, at the very, very top. women have been fired. women, the cno, the top person in the navy was a woman fired the top

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a white car is driving in front of the home. now, this white car had gone back and forth since 330, but that's a pivotal moment of that. white turned out to be an elantra. was driving in front and then at 412 doordash delivers knock on the door. xana kernodle answers it. she gets the food she ordered. she goes to her bedroom. so it's believed that she was very alive during this time period. eating that doordash at 417, there was a security camera 50ft away from the residence. it had audio. so what we hear is, first of all, whimpering and then a loud thud. and then you hear barking. and kaylee had a dog. and then at 422 to 424, the two surviving roommates in their own separate bedrooms are texting back and ' what they said. no one is answering. they were trying to get ahold of the all of the the other victims. i'm really confused. well, santa was

wearing black. i'm freaking out. it was like a ski mask. almost. i'm not kidding. and sarah, we had known that one of the surviving roommates and the probable cause affidavit that she opened up her door during this time period, there was a man in black. he had a mask that covered his nose. he was not athletic, but a bit muscular with bushy eyebrows. that's what she's talking about right there. now it goes on that at 10:45 a.m., they text kaylee and maddie, wake up, get back to us. no response. finally, at 1158 noon, they call 911 and say we have an unconscious person. and it was xana kernodle is who they were talking about. and she was found on the floor of her bedroom near the bathroom. >> wow. the timeline is confusing, but those texts are chilling. >> thank you. and the judge will rule on this. but i don't want to tell you what the judge is going to do, but it's coming in. >> okay. jean casarez, thank you so much. we appreciate it. that is. >> a tease. jean good to see.

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