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right here to cnn news central. >> a new pivot for president donald trump and his day to day changing tariff war. just one day after offering a one month reprieve on tariffs on canada. today he's threatening new tariffs on our neighbors to the north, including a 250% tax on dairy. this is just the latest in a series of tariff flip flops for trump that have knocked stocks lower this week. and it comes as a new jobs report just dropped today, covering the first month of president trump's second term in february. the u.s. economy created 151,000 jobs. that is considered solid, though it came in just slightly below expectations. unemployment ticking up to 4.1%. we have a team of correspondents covering these developments. let's start with vanessa yurkevich, who has more with how this chaos and uncertainty is hitting stocks. actually, let's go ahead and start with matt egan and the

jobs report. matt, apologies for the fake out. i'm imitating the president who is moving tariffs back and forth. walk us through these jobs numbers matt. >> well boris look this feels like this report could be the calm before the storm. nothing terribly alarming here. although there were some hints of softness in the jobs market. we learned today the economy added 151,000 jobs in february. as you mentioned, that was slightly below expectations, but that is an improvement from january, which was revised lower, and it's a solid pace of growth. now, the unemployment rate, it did unexpectedly tick higher to 4.1%. that's historically low. but it moved higher because more people are unemployed and fewer people are in the workforce. when we dig into some of the industries, the good news is that manufacturing returned to job growth after a few months of losing jobs. but retail lost more than 6000 jobs amid worker strikes. leisure and hospitality lost some jobs as well, and the

federal government lost 10,000 jobs. that's the most since june of 20, 2022. and it doesn't even fully capture all of those mass layoffs from doge and elon musk. so we expect that to continue. this is the 50th month in a row where the u.s. economy is adding jobs. that's the second longest streak on record. but, boris, the big question is how long is it going to continue amid all this uncertainty around federal layoffs, federal spending cuts, and of course, this trade war. >> and, matt, where exactly are we with tariffs? what's the status of these tariffs today? >> yeah, it's incredibly confusing. it feels like every hour almost there's a new tariff that is threatened or dialed back or delayed. i haven't looked at my phone in 90s so i might have missed another tariff threat on truth social. but look, 20% tariffs on china that did kick in on tuesday. there's also 25%

tariff on canada and mexico, excluding autos and products that are compliant with the usmca trade agreement. 10% tariff on canadian energy and potash, which is a compound used to make fertilizer that american farmers need. but look, there's more tariffs that are on the way. maybe i mean, the president has threatened to impose new tariffs on steel and aluminum imports next week, early april. there's tariffs that loom potentially on products from the european union on autos. there's the reciprocal tariffs. and then later on this year potentially tariffs on copper and lumber, timber, semiconductors. you mentioned the new tariffs that were just threatened today on canadian dairy products as well. we've seen trade policy uncertainty just go through the roof. there's an index that tracks that. it's the highest it's ever been going back to 1960. and so right now we're just everyone's trying to make sense of it. all right. it's a lot of uncertainty and chaos for

investors, for ceos and for small business owners to try to make sense of. boris. >> matt egan, thank you so much for that update. let's bring in vanessa yurkevich now. vanessa. obviously markets don't like volatility, even though trump says he's not watching the markets well, certainly a lot of people are watching the markets though. >> and what we've seen most of the day is that markets were down on the news of this sort of weaker than expected jobs report. but if we look at the numbers now, they're up again. and this is just though a moment, a snapshot in what has been a very volatile week on wall street and potentially why they are up right now is because the fed chair, jerome powell, was at an event earlier today and he said that despite these levels of uncertainty, the u.s. economy is actually in a good place and that we just need to wait and see. so when you have the fed chair making a comment like that, that the economy is still working well, it is still doing well, that might have

calmed some nerves on wall street, but of course, this has been an up and down week. there are more obviously losses than gains this week, and next week is a brand new week where we might hear about new tariffs. and certainly the market will react to that. but as it stands right now, you have the dow, s&p and nasdaq all just slightly up at this moment. >> it's going to also be difficult to be a business owner when you have trade policy going topsy turvy like this. what if business leaders that you've been talking to shared about what their planning is like? >> yeah, i've been speaking to business owners all week in mexico, in the u.s. and canada. and the way they describe it is that it's a logistical nightmare. i spoke to one canadian flour company that imports to the u.s., and they said that they initially on tuesday put a tariff tax in place, and then they had to remove it two days later. and that involved having to refund customers and also having to explain to customers what was

going on while having to pay credit card fees in the process. for many businesses, they like planning at least two weeks out, and this day to day, hour to hour flip flopping. they've told me that this is just simply exhausting right now. >> vanessa yurkevich, thank you so much for that, brianna. >> let's talk more about what this means for jobs in the economy with ben bergman. he's a senior correspondent at business insider. and ben, it's kind of a tariff yo yo this week. so i'm going to summarize it. yes. tariffs wait. not for mexico. wait. not for cars. yes for canada wait. no for canada. now just today it's yes for canadian lumber and dairy 250% because they're doing it to us. what is the effect of all of that craziness? >> well, what investors and businesses hate more than anything? it's uncertainty. and boris just asked about the effect on businesses. i was just texting with my mother before this. she owns a small parenting magazine called seattle's child. they printed in canada. she just

got an email from her printer that they're increasing the prices by 3%. that was on wednesday. then president trump said he's delaying that by a month yesterday. but they're not just going to be able to go back and forth. so i think businesses would really like to just know what is happening. same with investors. the uncertainty is very difficult to deal with. >> what and what is, you know, bigger picture here. the emerging picture of the trump economy between these jobs reports, the tariffs and the market reaction to all of it. >> the emerging picture is one of just tremendous uncertainty. it's a roller coaster that everyone is on. and i think you see that in the markets, even though we're session positive right now, this is the worst week for the markets since september. and it seems like a long time ago in the first trump administration, where he would look at the stock market and really care a lot about that, and that reassured investors. but this time, he doesn't really seem to care that much about the day to day fluctuations of the market.

>> yeah, let's not disparage roller coasters, right? i mean, some of those are pretty great. and i should note, we're also expecting to hear from the president next hour. he's going to be at this crypto summit after he established a strategic bitcoin reserve via executive order last night. explain explain to us what that means. >> yeah, roller coaster is great to go on at disneyland. not necessarily what you want to see your 401 k doing. and yeah, this crypto summit is really interesting because it's something that president trump announced but no agenda was announced. no attendee was announced. but one thing he's probably going to talk about is this crypto reserve, because the u.s. wants a reserve of bitcoin and for other coins, i think a lot of investors were hoping that the u.s. would be buying up lots of crypto. doesn't seem like they're going to do that, he said. it's going to be revenue neutral, meaning they're going to use coins that they already have through asset forfeitures. >> the trump family notably launched their own coins just

before he took office. does that matter here? >> no, i don't think the trump coin is going to be included in this reserve, but certainly trump has billed himself as the first crypto president, and this summit is indicative of that. >> yeah. all right. we'll be watching for that. ben, great to have you. thank you so much for taking us through all of that, boris. >> so we've discussed the economic impacts. let's talk about the political impacts of president trump's dramatic policy shifts with white house correspondent for reuters, jeff mason. jeff, great to see you. as always. talk to us about the the logic here, the thinking that's fueling trump's decision making. i imagine he's hearing from a lot of different folks on these tariffs. >> oh, no doubt he's hearing from a lot of folks, boris. and good to see you too. i think that the the politics of this is varied. you know, i think that as your previous guest was saying, the business community certainly likes certainty. i don't think that would be incorrect to say that republicans on the hill would

like a little bit more certainty as well. which isn't to say that they're standing up to president trump or protesting these things with president trump, but i think it does make things a little tricky. democrats, certainly the same, although i don't think they're looking for certainty in either way from from this white house. i think they see this as a political weakness, which they will no doubt try to exploit. once we get a little closer to the midterms. but that's that's a ways off for now. i think in general, this president, this white house feels like they have a mandate. this is his style. and so i don't think that they're particularly concerned about it hurting him politically. but stay tuned. it might. >> i do wonder when trump says that he's not watching the markets. i think it's safe to say that that's not true. maybe what he means is that he ignores them when they're not in his favor, but he's certainly touted stock market numbers when they've been good before. >> absolutely. and you and i both covered the first term of president trump. and definitely

i remember him coming out into the briefing room when the stock market when the dow or one of the major indices had hit a new record. so, you know, i agree with you. i think that he absolutely does care about the market. but i also think it's correct to say that these gyrations are not a concern to him because he cares even more about tariffs, and he cares even more about these policies that he's putting into place than he does about the back and forth. but if there were a major, major drop, i can't imagine that that's not something that would be very high on his radar. and the flip side, if there ends up being a major spike again, there's no doubt in my mind that he would come out and take credit for it. >> yeah. i was looking for another way to describe the volatility in the markets gyrations. that is a fantastic word to use, jeff, i also wanted to ask you about peace negotiations between russia and ukraine and the united states. trump saying that russian president vladimir putin holds all the cards. there are also

some indications that trump has been bothered by the recent barrage that russia has unleashed on ukraine. do you think he ties himself in any way to that? why has he made angry by that? if he is seemingly sort of pave the way for russia to be more aggressive? >> it's a great question. he's giving contradictory messages on russia. he did say in a in a social media post earlier today, he was negative on russia for its its bombardment of ukraine. but then in his most recent back and forth with reporters in the oval office, just a few minutes ago, he said that what you just mentioned that russia has all the cards and he was more critical of ukraine and said again that he wasn't sure ukraine was ready for peace. so he didn't echo in front of the television cameras the harsh, harsher, shall we say, criticism that he was directing at russia earlier in the day. and that's that's just quite simply a mixed message. and it's to get

back to your initial question, yes, he's paved the way for russia to be aggressive because he has been more conciliatory towards russia than he has towards ukraine. and it bears repeating again that the facts are that russia invaded ukraine and not the other way around. >> and, jeff, one last thing, something that he said during his press availability really struck me. he was seeming to hint that there might be some deal on the horizon with iran over its nuclear program, he said there will be interesting days ahead. they're down to the final moments. do we know what he's referring to? >> no, i mean, no is the answer to that, other than he has acknowledged that he sent them a letter. and i think it's always bears repeating or remembering that he likes the word deal. so yes, looking for a deal, wanting to reopen in some kind of way, communications with iran about their nuclear program, but also adding a pretty clear threat there, both in an interview he

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under. often those are people who don't have a say in whether they are vaccinated or not. they are minors. a six year old unvaccinated child died from the virus last week, and we're now learning there might be a second measles death, this time in neighboring in a neighboring county in new mexico, health officials say they are investigating if the virus caused the death of an unvaccinated person who tested positive for the disease. the person did not seek medical attention before their death. joining us now is doctor f perry wilson, associate professor of public health at yale university. and i know hearing news like that is just it's so tragic, i think because of how vaccinations could have prevented this. but i wonder what you think about this new updated vaccination recommendation coming from the texas from texas health officials in these affected counties where they're saying that infants should get an early dose of the vaccine and adults without immunity should get a vaccine. are those effective?

>> yeah, yeah they are. >> this is the mmr vaccine. >> is one. >> of the most effective vaccines we have against viral illness. about 97% effective. there is, you know, a routine vaccine schedule that that most of us have received. and much of the country has received these additional doses or early doses are necessary in the face of trying to control an outbreak. those are just the decisions that need to be made to sort of create a fire line around a growing outbreak. >> the vaccination, no doubt incredibly effective. the recommendations. do you think people will follow them? because if people are hesitant to vaccinate their children, even if, as we know, science has proven some of their hesitation is not based in science, do you worry that they'll be hesitant to vaccinate their kids even earlier? which is this guidance? >> i see what you're you're asking. yeah, of course there will be ongoing hesitancy.

people are anxious about vaccines and becoming more so. that said, there is good scientific evidence that a vaccine recommendations that come from trusted individuals, including your own personal physicians, have an outsized effect on the decision whether or not to vaccinate. so i would urge all my colleagues in texas, the physicians in texas, to reach out to their patients because those messages coming from them to someone you haven't seen, from someone you have an established relationship with, people are much more likely to listen to than than, frankly, listening to people like me. >> and do you think they're more likely to listen when they see someone in their community dying from measles 100%. >> there are multiple surveys that show that as the perceived severity of an illness increases and the perceived proximity of an illness increases, the willingness to vaccinate increases. i think that's that's just human psychology. in

fact, i think one of the reasons vaccination rates against measles has gone down over time, in addition to a lot of misinformation out there, is simply because it was so effective. we eliminated measles in the united states. it just wasn't top of mind. it wasn't something that people even thought about. and so it made it easier to say, oh, well, why? why should i even bother? >> yeah. and as we're looking, maybe you can speak a little bit more of that because we are focused on these two states. right. texas and new mexico. but bigger picture in the u.s. what has been that trend of vaccination backslide across the u.s.? because for some people, it may be, why even bother? but that's certainly not the only reason. >> no, i think we can't. the elephant in the room here is really the covid pandemic and the amount of misinformation about covid vaccines. colored the experience for a lot of vaccines. we saw, you know a

very dramatic decline in covid vaccine uptake after the initial round of vaccines came out. and this strange off target effect was that simultaneously with people not getting covid boosters and things, we also saw a decline in other, more routine childhood vaccinations and flu vaccinations. so it had this add on effect as mistrust of sort of relatively standard and well-established public health measures sort of eroded in the face of this new and scary pandemic. we've backslid quite a bit. and for measles, this is particularly troublesome. it is the most infectious human virus, more infectious than covid, more infectious than hiv. the only way to stop an outbreak of measles is to prevent infections. and as i said, the vaccine is 97% effective at preventing infections. but you need to vaccinate a lot of people because it will find those people who are not vaccinated and take hold very readily. it's highly infectious. >> yeah, we're seeing that play out. unfortunately. doctor

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interest. every single performance. >> review i have. >> says fully successful. sometimes pivotal, in a critical position. it's a fraudulent statement that they make. it's an illegal termination. >> help us understand the status of this probationary. designation. had you been a recent hire? >> i've actually been in the position since june of 23, but more as an intern. a federal employee. officially since april of last year. it was about a month from the end of that probationary year, which every time someone is promoted to the next pay grade, they then begin another probationary year. you are more or less always under a probationary status of some sort, and in that capacity, the only thing you can be fired for is unsatisfactory for performance. that's right. in my hiring paperwork, which my

personnel file, like all of our personnel files, is a written document from the government stating that we are fully successful. >> mm-hmm. so if you think they are unjustified in in firing you. their response thus far has roughly been that a lot of the probationary folks are being eliminated. what do you think that means for agencies like the va long term, if they're losing folks like you who have been proven to be, as you put it, pivotal in critical jobs, fully satisfactory just because they haven't been on the job for a certain amount of time. >> well, exactly. and it's not just the job. it's that pay grade. it's that pay level. and again, it's a fraudulent illegal termination because it's based on false statements. it's going to double the workload. our our department was already understaffed. the day that i was let go with a

coworker, that was about half of our department's workforce, which automatically doubled their workload at the same pay, which means basically a cut in pay to them. this translates to the patient, to the nurses, to the doctors, because nothing the nurses or doctors touch in that hospital isn't coming through us first. >> i do wonder what you say to folks who argue that these cuts will make the va work better for veterans. i know you voted for vice president kamala harris, so? so perhaps it speaks to your political leanings, but there are a lot of republicans out there who are essentially saying that the va is broken, and these reductions are a way to fix it. what would your response be? >> i'd say we could cut congress in half, cut the senate in half, maybe take ellen out of the oval office. cut that in half. that might be better as well. if we want to go that route, let's go that route. >> i. can you respond to the

idea that making the government more efficient would reduce the cost to taxpayers, therefore making lives easier for for veterans and for other folks, they would be able to save more money. and that essentially their argument is that the government is going bankrupt and something needs to change. i imagine you would say that this is not something that should be fooled around with. >> well, i mean, right off the bat, you fraud and waste. alina habba is a counsel to the white house, counsel of the president, and she makes $420,000 a year. she's making over $1,100 today. she makes today what i would make in two weeks. she has put out a statement that is more disparaging than that statement that was on the termination, calling us perhaps unfit to work, any job that maybe we didn't want to come to work. completely disparaging. that is fraud. that is waste. she is the woman who defended harvey

weinstein and made $2.5 million to defend harvey weinstein, which she lost the case. so, i mean, if you want to talk fraud, you want to talk waste. teresa barrett, the office of human capital is doing nothing but putting out falsehoods and lies, promulgating misinformation. that's fraud. that's waste. what are they making a year? this is not cutting any waste. this is not. we're talking about a hospital. we're talking about a hospital. you're not talking about some di. you know, whatever program that has an office. and they know this is hands on medical work. this is hands on stuff. it doesn't make anything more efficient. it makes things less efficient. it creates more waste. >> james stansel, we have to leave the conversation there. appreciate you sharing your experience and your point of view. >> thank you. >> stay with news central. we're

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