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>> more tariff news today that could make or break businesses. president donald trump threatening new retaliatory tariffs against canada on lumber used to build u.s. homes. and a 250% tax on dairy that's eating, adding even more turmoil and uncertainty driven by the president's flip flops on key issues. let's start with the economy. remember, on tuesday, trump hit goods from canada and mexico with 25% tariffs, saying there was no room for those countries to negotiate. that drove stocks lower, sparking fears of a growing trade war with america's largest trading partners. >> but donald. >> they point out that even though. you're a very smart guy, this is a very dumb thing to do. >> one day later, after a phone call with the big three american automakers, trump made his first big tariff reversal on concerns

those taxes could devastate america's auto manufacturing. >> we are going to give a. one month exemption on any. autos coming through usmca 24 hours after that, with stock markets in sharp decline and both canada and mexico refusing to back down, trump hit pause on most of his tariffs against those countries for nearly a month. >> in another major walkback. >> they came back to me yesterday. they said, could we have some help? i said, look, i'm going to do it, but that's it. don't come back to me after the 2nd april second. >> president trump also changing course on doge. he appears to be reining in elon musk's indiscriminate approach to downsizing the federal government. remember this cabinet meeting from last week? >> anybody unhappy. >> with elie honig? if you are, i will throw them out of here. >> well, after weeks where republican lawmakers have been

confronted by angry crowds at town halls like this. >> one is doing right now. >> as far. >> as cutting out those jobs, and that is a game changer. >> what's not. >> reasonable is taking. >> this chainsaw approach. >> i feel. bad that people have been laid off. >> fraud and. abuse that has been discovered already. >> oh. >> following a private meeting between musk and some of those lawmakers this week, and after multiple federal agencies were forced to rehire fired employees after realizing the critical nature of their roles, president trump now says his administration will start using, quote, the scalpel rather than a hatchet. >> i said, i want the cabinet members go first. keep all the people you want. if they can cut, it's better. and if they don't cut, then elon will do the cutting. >> as for foreign policy, a lot of major changes after the contentious oval office meeting with ukrainian president zelenskyy you don't know that. >> god bless you. god bless you.

you go to war. don't tell us what we're going to feel. we're trying to solve a problem. don't tell us what we're going to feel. >> zelenskyy exited the white house without key u.s. security guarantees, and in the days that followed, the u.s. paused military aid to the ukrainian front lines and partially halted intelligence sharing. since those decisions, europe has rallied around ukraine. leaders embracing zelenskyy at a special summit this week in brussels. while trump took to the stage on capitol hill lambasting u.s. support. >> we've spent perhaps $350 billion. like taking candy from a baby. that's what happened. >> for the ukraine response. according to the government inspector general overseeing the ukraine response. and just yesterday, trump questioned u.s. support for nato. >> if the united states was in trouble. and we called them, we

said, we got a problem. do you think they're going to come and protect us? they're supposed to. i'm not so sure. >> nato allies did come and help the united states after it responded to the september 11th attacks with attacks against al qaeda in afghanistan. nevertheless, despite all of that, u.s. officials are now preparing to meet next week with zelenskyy in saudi arabia discussing a framework for peace. and today, there was another new twist. president trump announcing possible large scale sanctions on russia. if a peace deal is not reached soon. brianna. >> a whole lot to break down. let's start with the latest on the tariffs. cnn's jeff zeleny joining us now from the white house. jeff, bring us up to speed on trump's new tariff threats against canada and where things stand there, brianna. another day. >> another threat of tariffs. >> but that, of. >> course, does not mean tariffs will be imposed, as we have seen virtually every day this week, as the financial markets have

tried to follow along to this. but the president a couple of hours or so ago in the oval office, talked about the potential of new tariffs on lumber and and a dairy products for canada. this was a day after most mexican and canadian products were given a one month extension from the the tariffs. of course, all reciprocal tariffs, which means what companies what companies are charging the u.s., the u.s. will charge them. those will go into effect april 2nd. but seemingly out of the blue, the president just saying that he may impose new tariffs on lumber and on dairy, but this clearly has become just one of the negotiating tactics. one of the talking points that he has made, even as the markets have been wondering exactly where the consistency here is. so, brianna, we do not have any more specifics than that on this specific set of tariffs. but the president mentioned it. so of course, people are left to wonder why. the market certainly has done that once again today.

>> yeah. we shall continue to wonder. jeff zeleny, thank you boris. >> we want to dig deeper on how the constantly changing headlines on tariffs could affect business and the economy. we're joined by douglas holtz-eakin. he was the chief economist on the white house council of economic advisers under president george w bush. he's also the president of the american action forum. douglas, great to see you as always. i wonder not only how this back and forth impacts the market short term, which we've already sort of seen, but also long term, how trading partners view the united states. >> well. >> i think there are a number of things that are worth noting here. the first of all is that all of these tariffs, the ones on canada and mexico, china steel, aluminum and the the ones promised in the reciprocal tariffs and the pharmaceuticals, chips, autos, i mean, the list is quite long. all of those in the end are tax increases that will make things more expensive in the united states and or be

headwinds to hiring and investing and fostering economic growth, both of which are bad things for the american public. so any such announcement carries with it directionally, some bad news for the united states. and the question then is what do we get for it? and there so far, i think the results have been pretty thin. the president's been quite unclear as to what he wants from canada. is it fewer border crossings, less fentanyl? is it moving auto production lines into the united states? is it a lot of revenue to replace tax cuts? it's really unclear. and so the announcements themselves carry some some real negative implications. the second thing is the timing is completely unclear. we're going to do it now. maybe we'll do it later. how can you make a plan for for this bad news when you don't know when it's going to hit? and the third is just uncertainty itself is bad for decision making. financial markets really don't like this kind of uncertainty. the the federal reserve, for example, spends a lot of time trying to clear up what their plans might be. this generates uncertainty. businesses are thinking is now

the time to hire or not? is now the time to build a new plant? i don't know. and it tends to freeze economic activity and and slow down the the progress in the economy. so for the u.s. economy by itself, these are not good announcements. there's no doubt about it. and our trading partners are comparably baffled, quite angry in many cases. and as a matter of course, have been planning to retaliate because they've seen this movie before and they're not going to put up with it. and so that's more bad news for the global economy. and the combination could be quite impactful if both go through. >> the wall street journal editorial board seems to be inviting someone to sue the administration. they say that trump is using a law to justify the tariffs. that doesn't hold up. you laugh, but they write, quote, someone should sue. i mean, is that actionable? >> could somebody actually do? maybe i should. well, their their point is that the congress has the power to levy tariffs.

that's constitutional. they have delegated to the president that power under certain circumstances. typically emergencies. and so the president has announced a whole series of emergencies. we're in an energy emergency, a national economic emergency or a fentanyl emergency as the gateway to to undertaking these tariffs. i think what the the wall street journal is saying is an american citizen could raise their hand, go into court and say, i contest whether we are in such an emergency. are we really in a national economic emergency? the unemployment rate is 4.1%. inflation is under 3%. we've been growing at rates have two and a half and 3%. how can that be an emergency? and if they were to win that case, the power to do this unilaterally would go away. >> it's fascinating, especially on the suggestion that there's a fentanyl emergency at the northern border with canada. when i think all of last year it was roughly 10 pounds of fentanyl that were seized, significantly less than compared to the southern border with mexico. i think in january to february, it was 0.03 pounds. so

i do wonder in the big picture, as trump talks about bringing manufacturing back to the united states, as he tells farmers that there may be a period of difficulty and adjustment period, as he describes it, it could terrorists be used to reshape the u.s. economy in a way that better benefits everyday americans, or is that seemingly too far down the road and causing too much disruption to actually be a net benefit? >> so, taken in the extreme, you know, mr. trump has talked a lot about not wanting to import things. we should just make th' observation that's pretty common

now that there is no single country on the globe that can make an iphone. no one has all of the things necessary in their boundaries. so trade is is how you solve those problems. you have a global network of labor, and they do the things they do best, and we do the things we do best. and if you try to undo that, you're essentially saying, let's do something that we gave up because it wasn't worth it and do it again. that usually means you're less good at it. it costs more to do it. in the united states, it's more expensive for us to buy it, and we give up doing what we do well. so the reason there is trade is it is advantageous for consumers only when it's abused. do you want to step in. and there the president likes to talk about how we've been taken advantage of. but these are not cases that he is bringing because he's found damage to american industry by unfair trade practices. these are tariffs he's just putting up because he's saying, i don't like what's going on. >> and doug holtz-eakin, appreciate the analysis. thank you so much for joining us.

>> thank you. >> brianna. >> today in washington, a federal judge ruled that she will not block doge from accessing sensitive banking information at the treasury department, saying that federal workers unions had not proved they would face irreparable harm. cnn senior crime and justice correspondent katelyn polantz is with us now. caitlin, what was the judge's reasoning here? well. >> brianna, the judge said, you know, there's a really. high bar to convince a court to step in and put an indefinite block on an agency like this to tell an agency you can't let some of your own staffers have access to data. and that bar wasn't cleared by the people who brought this lawsuit and asked for the judge to intervene in an emergency way. now, this is an important judge. her name is judge colleen kollar-kotelly. she's in the district court in d.c., and last week she had one of the most gripping hearings that i've listened to so far, where she just asked the point

blank questions what is doge? what are they doing? where is he? elon musk on this and who is giving direction at an agency like the treasury department that has doge staffers there? who's telling them what to do? in this case, though, it's about privacy concerns about what these staffers may be doing with very sensitive payment data, personal information, banking information that is held by the treasury department and used to cut checks that the federal government disburses. and those privacy act claims they had to show somehow to judge kollar-kotelly that this data was at risk of getting out. and she said the evidence isn't there yet, she wrote. if plaintiffs could show that defendants imminently planned to make their private information public, or to share that information with individuals outside the federal government with no obligation to maintain its confidentiality, the court would not hesitate to find a

likelihood of irreparable harm. that's the standard here. but on the present record, plaintiffs have not shown the defendants have such a plan. so, bria this is the type of case around privacy challenging doge and their work at agencies that's falling flat, not just before this judge, but before others. but of course, fear not. there are so many lawsuits in court right now, and there are other cases challenging elon musk. the doge, and other trump administration actions. we're going to see how those play out. they could go a lot of different ways with a lot of different judges, at a lot of different stages in these lawsuits. >> there's a group of democratic attorneys general who are suing the trump administration over its mass layoffs, and they're arguing that the firings are inflicting economic harm on their states, particularly when it comes to tax revenues. tell us about this one. >> yeah. so, brianna, this is sort of the example of how these cases morph into different types of claims as different groups are trying to challenge what the

trump administration is doing. and in this one, it is democratic led state governments, and they are suing the federal government, saying, we are hurt here because we have taxpayers and because it hurts our tax base. if you're firing people, firing probationary workers, there are other workers suits that have already gone through the pipeline that have had less success, partly because they're bringing them in federal court and there's ways that those workers and the unions that represent them can challenge being fired, not in federal court before labor boards. and so we're going to keep seeing lawsuits like this, trying different tactics. but every judge is going to be different. they're going to be looking at the facts specifically for each of these cases going forward. >> all right, caitlin, thank you for the latest there boris. >> let's discuss the war in ukraine. now we're joined by cnn anchor and chief national security analyst jim sciutto.

jim, a series of mixed messages today from the administration. you had trump this morning on social media saying that he might levy harsh sanctions on russia to get them to the negotiating table. but then during his press availability in the oval office, he said effectively that it's more difficult to deal with ukraine than it is with russia to get peace. yeah. >> i mean, listen. >> i always think with him. >> particularly as. >> it relates to to. >> a place like ukraine. >> look at what he has said. consistently and done. >> consistently. >> and though for the first time. >> in. >> a. long time, he's said something critical about russia. >> he hasn't done anything right. he hasn't. >> imposed those costs yet. >> while he. >> is imposing quite severe. >> costs on ukraine. including pulling back military assistance. >> and intelligence sharing. >> that's having immediate impacts on. >> the. battlefield as. >> ukraine is still. being relentlessly attacked. >> so, you know, the consistent moves. >> statements and actions are ones. >> that indicate that he is pulling back support from. ukraine. and that is absolutely the way u.s. allies. >> are taking it. and that's. >> why when you see in this emergency emergency. meeting

yesterday of eu nations, including nato. >> nato allies. >> that they are saying publicly we. cannot rely on the u.s. to support. ukraine anymore. so we have to fill in the gap, but also even more broadly, and this is more significant. they can't rely on the u.s. to defend europe. so they're taking that as a genuine move from trump, not just bluster. >> to that point, we saw macron recently saying that france is considering expanding its responsibility over nuclear defense in europe. how far do you think europe is willing to go? >> they're willing to go. and i've been speaking to to diplomats in europe this week far enough to defend themselves because their perception is, again, they can't rely. >> on. >> the u.s. to defend them. and this is in the public record. i mean, you had trump say again yesterday, i'm not sure i would go to defend, you know, despite the fact that we are required by treaty to to defend each other mutually. so their their attitude is, okay, we got to we got to figure out a way that we

could do it without the u.s. and because they can't fill the military gap quickly. our military is just bigger. and by the way, nato was designed to be led by the u.s. and to fill a lot of these roles. the quickest way to replace is by expanding your nuclear arsenal. and right now, that's just the u.k. and france. but france is talking about extending and even perhaps sharing with a country like germany. and this is something that goes more broadly because allies in asia, south korea and japan are hearing similar, similar signals and making their own calculations as to whether they need to go nuclear. i mean, this is this is a among the many questions you and i are talking about as we we look at the effects of trump's foreign policy, the possibility of further nuclear proliferation is one of them. >> wow. it is a really serious subject. jim sciutto, thanks so much for joining us. >> it's always uplifting to talk to me before. >> the weekend. yeah, it's great. yikes. thanks, jim. still to come this hour, a death row inmate will be executed by firing squad tonight. by his own

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process. he also rejected death by electric chair, which his attorneys said would, quote, burn and cook him alive. the reverend hillary taylor is the executive director for south carolinians for alternatives to the death penalty, and sigmund's longtime spiritual advisor. reverend, thank you for being with us. and i just wonder is the clock is ticking at this point in time, what is on your mind? >> what is on our mind this afternoon? certainly holding brad and his family and also the people that are all involved in his case, his legal team and also the people that he has harmed. holding them all in prayer. making sure that everybody feels as supported and connected as possible to our movement. people who are far away, and also people who are local, and also making sure that when we hold vigil and protest outside of the prison, that we are able to do so in a way that is safe and in a way that is also honoring brad.

>> so he's getting attention. a lot of attention because of this choice to die by firing squad. tell us what he's told you about this decision. >> yeah. so brad was faced with an impossible decision of whether he wanted to be pumped with poisons, that we are not legally allowed to know anything about, and that basically took, you know, more than 20 minutes for the last three people to be executed, with which or to be cooked alive with the electric chair, or to have his heart blown out of his chest by the firing squad. and when faced with this impossible decision, he chose the method that he knew would be the most effective and also would be the most efficient and would not be like lethal injection. >> and you are to be clear an advocate against the death penalty, which south carolina

hasn't seen an execution for quite some time. but what do you say to people who it's a divisive issue, right. it always has been. what do you say to people who say, this is someone who committed a heinous crime? his victims, you know, didn't even have this this choice yes. >> what i would tell you is that the death penalty is is awful and is a reflection of the violence that, you know, we are not willing to deal with in our society. what i will also say is that victims of violence deserve to be seen and heard. and as cadp is not here to tell anybody how to deal with violence, they also deserve all the resources and the services available to them so that they can heal from their trauma. they deserve to know that what happened to them will never happen to them again. and the death penalty is the poorest way to ensure any of

those things happen. so that is what we say, and we want to help solve the problem of violence. our mission is to abolish the death penalty and catalyze criminal justice reform, because we know that people who often experience violence go on to commit violence. violence that is not transformed is transferred. and brad is somebody who experienced violence in his early life and was not able to have the right interventions so that he did not perpetuate violence. we want to make sure that violence is interrupted and prevented, and we ask that people join with us in order to do that, but we can't do that unless we end the death penalty. >> how is he reflecting on his crimes and on the punishment that he is expected to to endure here shortly? >> brad is hopeful and prayerful that he will receive clemency from governor mcmaster. brad is somebody who recognizes the harm

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extensively in building homes. listen to this canada has been ripping us off for years on tariffs, for lumber and for dairy products. >> 250%. nobody ever talks about that. 250% tariff, which is taking advantage of our farmers. so that's not going to happen anymore. we're going to be they'll be met with the exact same tariff unless they drop it. >> this comes just one day after trump announced he would pause tariffs against most canadian goods for a month if they fell under the usmca trade agreement. let's discuss with wab kinew. he's a premier of manitoba, canada. sir, thank you so much for being with us. first, i just want to get your reaction to trump backing off tariffs for at least another month. but then as you heard there, threatening new ones. >> well, these. >> new tariffs that are being floated are. >> just going to make the trip to the grocery. >> store more expensive for americans.

>> and building. >> homes for. >> americans, more expensive as well. >> so here in manitoba, when we. >> heard that announcement yesterday. >> about a pause until april 2nd, we said that wasn't good enough for our province. and i would encourage americans to think that that's not good enough for you, either. i think all of us want to see costs get lower. we want to see prices come down. but these tariffs getting applied and then retaliatory measures, it's just going to raise the cost of living for everybody. i would much rather see us work across the u.s. canada border to lower prices for americans as well as canadians too. >> what about his argument regarding that 250% as he claims tariff on u.s. dairy imports going into canada? >> well, here in manitoba, we have a really close relationship with a lot of the midwestern states. so we send a lot of electricity south. we're a major exporter of low carbon baseload power that helps the midwestern states. and then when it comes

to the ag sector across the board, we have great trade that goes back and forth. so whether it's pork, you know, canola, beef, eggs, dairy, what have you. a lot of these products, they may start in canada. they might go down to iowa or north dakota, then come back to canada, then go back to be sold in the u.s. so really, if you try to separate our ag industry, you're going to hurt american farmers just as much as any impact that we're going to feel here in canada. so from our perspective, we'd much rather put these tariffs in the rear view mirror. yes. we are going to push back. we are going to stand up for our economy on things like pulling us liquor off our liquor mart shelves here, but that's not the sort of conversation we want to be having. we would much rather be having a conversation. how do we work together? how do we make that ag producer in the states better off at the same time that we make the ag producer better off here in canada? so if we can put this trump tariff tax in the rear view mirror, i think we get

back to those lower, lower price conversations sooner. >> i have two questions for you on stuff you just mentioned. you signed an order pushing, pulling american liquor off of manitoba shelves. you imitated trump in your announcement, sort of jokingly poking fun at the president's style. what went into your decision? what were you trying to achieve with the announcement well, people have been talking about a trade war here, but i think this is also a meme war, if you will. >> and so for somebody who's talking about our country as a 51st state, i'd hope that he's able to take a sense of humor that we're responding with as well. but again, we look at america as our neighbors, as our friends. we love the american people. cross border shopping, coming down to watch nfl games and concerts and things like that. we have a great working relationship. but the thing is, right now, these actions of the trump administration are going to raise the cost of living for the average american. so we're taking steps to get noticed.

pulling u.s. liquor off of our liquor mart shelves as one way for us to get the attention of the american. hey, why don't we move past this tariff conversation and focus on the real economic priority for people on both sides of the border, which is lowering the cost of living? that's been a priority for us, and i'm sure americans would agree if we could focus on bringing costs down, it'd be great. >> and you mentioned hydroelectric power being exported to the united states from manitoba. i know you're considering putting a 25% surcharge on energy exports to certain states, similar to what ontario ontario has done. what ultimately would factor into that? decision? >> well, we don't want to live with this economic cloud over our heads. that is this threat of more tariffs in the future, whether it's next week or the week after that or april 2nd. the reality is, if we focus on

lowering prices, both of our countries will be better off. but we have to take some steps to push back and to get the american public to pay attention to the economic pain that the trump administration is going to bring on to your own country. so us being an electricity exporter is one of those ways that we can get attention during this time of artificial intelligence. baseload power is one of the most valuable things in the world. we have it here in manitoba and we're sending it south of the border. but if that relationship is going to change, if it's not going to work for us as canadians any longer, then we're going to have to make a change in that decision to send power south. so again, this is not the conversation i want to have. i would much rather be talking about increasing base load power exports to the u.s. but again, i shared this message with governor tim walz and some of our other neighbors. we have to look out for our canadian economic interests. so as long as the trump administration is going to be threatening tariffs

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