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america's top trading partners as those countries hit back this morning. >> and talks for peace right now. secretary of state marco rubio on his way to saudi arabia for talks to end russia's war in ukraine. but president trump is now demanding ukraine must do to restart u.s. military aid. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world, i'm wolf blitzer. you're in the situation room. we begin this hour with a warning from the president on the u.s. economy. there are also new retaliatory tariffs in effect from china on u.s. farm goods. they include a 15% tariff on chicken, wheat, corn and cotton, and a 10% tariff on produce,
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pork, beef and dairy products. all this, as president trump says, u.s. tariffs on canada and mexico could go up, while also refueling after refusing to rule out the possibility of a recession. >> are you expecting a recession this year? >> i hate to predict things like that. there is a period of transition because what we're doing is very big. we're bringing wealth back to america. that's a big thing. and there are always periods of it takes a little time, it takes a little time. >> all right, let's go live right now to our white house reporter alayna treene. elena, what is the white house saying about all of this this morning? >> well, wolf, and one thing i just want to point out right there off the top is that we also heard the president doubled down on that later when asked on air force one last night, he repeated his claims, really refusing to rule out that a recession could happen. but
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look, we did hear from the director of the economic council, kevin hassett, one of donald trump's top economic advisers, walking through a lot of this this morning, he did acknowledge that tariffs are going to have some sort of impact on the economy in the short term. of course, we saw stocks drop today, things that i know many top white house and trump administration officials are watching closely, but they continue to argue, like the president, that they believe that the global concerns right now, the concerns about a potential recession, about the economy, are all going to be felt in the short term. then we also heard hassett argue that perhaps the uncertainty in the global markets due to this trade policy is actually helping the united states economy. take a listen to how he put it. >> what i'm seeing in the jobs number, for example, is that the uncertainty is actually creating jobs in the u.s. right now. we just saw 10,000 manufacturing jobs created in the u.s., 9000 auto jobs. and that's after losing 110,000 manufacturing
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last year. and so what's going on with the trade policy, which is a small fraction of the overall policy, is that it's starting to have the intended effect of onshoring activity in the u.s. >> while trump. >> and now, wolf, i know we're going to have matt egan kind of break down some of the fact check around that. but what's clear is that they are continuing to to defend the president's trade policies, even as you're hearing a wall street, different economists, people on capitol hill all sounding the alarm of what this impact could be, particularly when you have so many americans still worried about high prices and the potential for more inflation, wolf. >> all right. alayna treene over at the white house for us, elena, thank you very much, pamela. >> all right. so let's get that fact check. now. let's go live to cnn's matt egan in new york. matt, what do the numbers say? >> we know that investors and ceos hate uncertainty. it can have a real chilling effect on the economy. so i was a bit surprised to hear kevin hassett argue that uncertainty is creating jobs. and look, it's too early to say that manufacturing is suddenly
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roaring. back in america, there have been some positive signs, though. we did learn on friday that the manufacturing sector added 10,000 jobs in february. that's nice to see. after two straight months of losing jobs, but we should note that that does not even account for and fully recover the jobs that were lost during the prior two months. also, there was a survey out on manufacturing that showed that the manufacturing sector returned to growth in the last two months, but again, that uncertainty came up with numerous manufacturers complaining that uncertainty around tariffs has actually hurt the industry and caused some manufacturers to start raising prices. pamela. >> all right. matt egan and you know, there's always the question about wall street, how it's reacting. what can you tell us about that? >> yeah. another ugly day for the stock market at last check. the dow is down 365 points. that's about 1%. but we're seeing even more significant losses for the s&p, which is down by more than 1%. the nasdaq
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down by more than 2%. look, there's clearly concerns about the economy, about all this uncertainty. jpmorgan's david kelly. he told me that right now a lot of business people are like deer in headlights. and that is a very dangerous place to be. one last point, though, here. i know that there's been a lot of talk about a recession. it's just far too early to go there. this economy has proven to be so resilient again and again. but clearly, pamela, this is another test for the economy. >> yeah, i think that's really important to emphasize there. madigan, thanks so much, wolf. >> pamela, canada has a new prime minister elect this morning. mark carney is expected to speak with president trump soon after being sworn in earlier early this week, i should say. and he's already stepping into the trade war with the u.s. listen. >> we didn't ask for this fight, but canadians are always ready when someone else drops the gloves. so the americans, they should make no mistake in
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trade, as in hockey canada will win. >> mark carney when the liberal party leadership race after justin trudeau announced he's stepping down. let's go live right now to cnn's paula newton. she's joining us from ottawa. paula carney is known for his finance experience absolutely. >> he's known around the world. he would also be known, though, as one of those globalists that donald trump speaks of so much. and he reviles that kind of approach, whether it's in the economy or in geopolitics, wolf, canada is in the middle of an absolutely historic transition at this hour, as you said, we expect mark carney to be officially sworn in as prime minister sometime later this week. he is a former governor of the bank of canada, the bank of england helped usher britain through that brexit transition and really helped quite a bit in having global economies try and get over that 2008 financial
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crisis. what is preoccupying canada, though, is the conversation you have just been having and that those are those tariffs taking aim at canada right now. he got into some pretty pointed language in his acceptance speech. listen. >> the americans want our resources, our water, our land, our country. think about it. if they if they succeeded, they would destroy our way of life in america. health care is a big business in canada. it is a right. >> that is in fact, the. that is in fact the transition there that they are hoping for to go to mark from prime minister justin trudeau to mark carney, framed in terms of the existential threat that they
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believe is coming from donald trump, wolf. >> all right. paula newton in ottawa for us. we'll stay on top of this story. critically important. >> it certainly is. let's turn to capitol hill now. this hour the race is on to avoid another government shutdown. the house is expected to vote tomorrow on a six month stopgap bill to keep the government running through september. but with an ultra slim majority. can republicans get it passed without help from the democrats? let's go live to cnn chief congressional correspondent manu raju. manu, how are republicans feeling about passing the stopgap bill? >> well, it's really uncertain at this moment, given the narrowness of the majority in the house and the uncertainty about whether any democrats could break ranks as well. now, a lot of republicans, typically they don't vote for any stopgap measures. they are philosophically opposed and going that route. but donald trump is laying on the pressure, calling on all republicans to ultimately fall in line, which is giving some republican leaders hope that ultimately they will get their people on board. we do expect one republican in the house to vote against it right now, that's thomas massie of kentucky. that means that on any straight party
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line vote, mike johnson can only afford to lose no more republicans. in fact, he can only afford to lose one total. and right now several of them are undecided. one congressman this morning, congressman tim burchett of tennessee, told me that he is still undecided. others have warned that they could vote against this plan as well, including congressman tony gonzales of texas. now, what do democrats do? they are concerned about the domestic spending cuts in this plan. the democratic leaders in the house said they plan to vote against it. but will their rank and file members break ranks? that's a question. and if this does pass the house, how do senate democrats deal with this? their votes will be essential to breaking a filibuster. at least eight democrats are expected to be needed to break a filibuster filibuster on the senate side, so it's uncertain if they will supply the critical votes, because this is the one piece of leverage. pamela, try to force the trump administration to do what they want. but will they use that leverage, or will they give republicans the votes they are demanding? >> yeah, that's the big question, marty. raju, thanks so much, wolf. >> and right now, secretary of state marco rubio is on his way. he's almost there to saudi
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arabia. he's there to meet with the crown prince, just ahead of very critical talks with a delegation from ukraine. they're trying to lay the groundwork for a possible deal to end ukraine's war with russia. russia, of course, invaded ukraine. cnn's alex marquardt is on the scene for us. he's already in jeddah, saudi arabia. alex, what exactly is secretary rubio trying to get done on this trip? >> well, the u.s. and the ukrainians are trying to get this relationship back on track after that. explosive, dramatic meeting in the oval office between the two presidents. we heard from steve witkoff, the middle east envoy, just a short time ago, saying that they believe that substantial progress can be made here on the ground in jeddah. we are expecting the secretary of state, marco rubio, to land in a short time. he will have a meeting with the crown prince of saudi arabia. but of course, the focus is on that meeting with the ukrainians tomorrow. we heard president trump saying yesterday that he expects very big things to happen this week. he raised the possibility of that intelligence sharing to
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come back online after military and intelligence assistance was halted. we also are expecting the essentially the negotiations, the discussions to move forward. the state department, a senior official with the state department saying that they believe that the ukrainians are in a better position to continue these discussions because they are sending this senior level delegation, wolf. but what exactly that means in concrete terms remains to be seen, wolf. >> all right. alex marquardt on the scene for us in jeddah, saudi arabia. pamela. >> all right. still ahead, a high school shooting plot foiled. how florida police were able to track down the suspect, who they say had this arsenal. and bending to putin, we're going to ask republican congressman don bacon if the trump administration is walking away from a legacy of u.s. presidents standing up to russia. you're in the situation room. >> maybe if he hadn't been such a, he would have gotten away
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trump administration was negotiating with the taliban, without the afghan government, that really weakened the afghan government thereafter. and we could go all the way back to 1938, when neville chamberlain negotiated with adolf hitler, and they carved up the czechoslovakia territory and basically demanded the czechoslovakian leader give in to their demands. hitler and chamberlain, the leader of great britain at the time, and then a year later, they took germany, took the rest of czechoslovakia and invaded poland. ukraine is our ally. they want to be part of the west. russia is our adversary. and it's time that this administration gets this in their brain. they're treating putin with velvet gloves, and they're being harsh to our allies. i got to tell you, i'm hearing from all over the world, but particularly lots of republicans in omaha who do not like what they see. >> so you believe it sounds like that the trump administration is just being too conciliatory towards russia right now and sort of walking away from its legacy of being the leader of
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the free world. >> we are the leader of the free world. but right now, many countries are questioning, are we still the leader of the free world? we may be the most powerful country in the world. we were the leader of the free world. but it appears to many leaders and people all over to include republicans in nebraska that this administration is walking away from that legacy that was built by ike eisenhower and all these presidents, and really a capstone of ronald reagan. peace through strength and building these close alliances. and we are undermining that legacy right now. i'm not interested in a foreign policy that is totally built on realism or transactionalism, where it's just, what do we have in it for us? i believe in having a foreign policy that's a mix of realism, protecting our country and idealism, where we're the leaders standing for freedom, free markets, rule of law. and we got to we got to be clear eyed, but also have moral clarity. putin invaded ukraine. he's murdered all of his
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political opponents. he tried to kill a previous ukrainian prime minister. he's bombing cities. he's ramped up the bombing of cities since. president trump has been harsh towards president zelenskyy. we've got to see this. we're playing into the hands of putin, and i think it's devastating for, you know, our foreign our national security and our foreign affairs for the years to come. so i'm very concerned. >> you know, trump for his part, he touts that he's a deal maker. he is predicting very big things in the saudi talks this week. we know the secretary of state, marco rubio, is leaving there soon. do you share that optimism at all? >> well, i do want peace. we want a fair peace. we want a just peace. but how do you have a just peace if you don't have zelenskyy in the meetings? i just don't think it's right. we we have a long history of seeing how you cut one party out and show favoritism to one side or the other. it don't work. but why are we showing favoritism to the thug, to the dictator, to the murderer? it doesn't make sense to me.
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>> i also want to ask you about farmers. you said on the house agriculture committee this morning there's these new tariffs from china on farm products coming from the u.s. that are now in effect, that includes 15% on chicken, wheat, corn and cotton, 10% on produce, pork, beef and dairy products. in your view, how damaging are these tariffs to american farmers? and we should note you grew up on a farm, right? >> right. i was. i grew up on a corn and soybean farm. we had some beef cattle. you know, when we get in a trade war, the agriculture of america is what the other countries target. but i am not one of these guys. that is 100 or a zero. i understand why we're doing tariffs towards china. i hear all the time as a republican or a congressman from omaha, where our steaks, omaha beef or nebraska beef is being blocked out of chinese ports, they put so many barriers in front of our products. so i would say to the president, or my advice would be, if we're going to do tariffs, focus on our adversaries in china, is our adversary, so is russia. but
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when it comes to our allies, i think we should be a little more diplomatic and work behind the scenes, behind closed doors, doors more and and get these problems fixed. but china blocks out our products and i see it every day. and i think you got to fight. we need to it needs to be reciprocal. if they're blocking some of our stuff that we need to do the same to build a fair trade. i like free trade. free trade is good for consumers, but one country is not being fair. then we have to match it. and so i generally supportive of what the president is trying to do towards china. >> there's a lot going on in capitol hill. also this week, the house republicans have unveiled a stopgap bill aimed at averting a government shutdown. with such tight margins in the house and senate, it's not clear if there are enough votes for passage. what do you think is going to happen? are you prepared to vote for it? >> well, it's going to be a tight vote. i don't think we're going to get many democrats. i hope we do, because we don't want a government shutdown. now. about a week ago, before i went to church, i put on x or did a tweet. whatever your lexicon is, i said i will not vote for a
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clean cr because it is terrible for our military. it would be effectively a 3% cut to military and they wouldn't be able to do any new starts. how can you say we're preparing to deter china, russia, iran? if you're going to do a yearlong cr and within about 30 minutes, the white house called me and said, they're going to make big, significant changes to the defense spending within this cr. so we're not seeing a clean cr. we're going to see a cr that where you see defense spending augmented, but also allowing for new contracts and new starts. and so i will dialog with mike rogers, the chairman, and other leaders on our armed services committee to make sure it's adequate. but we can't do a yearlong clean cr and say that we're deterring china and russia. it would be a lie, but what i'm being told is that there have been fixes put on this cr that will help fix or help repair the damage to the dod. >> i want to, and we'll of course, watch what you end up
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doing on that front. but very quickly, i've got to ask you about this back and forth on x with the secretary of state, marco rubio elon musk clashing with poland's foreign minister over the use of musk's starlink satellite internet system in ukraine. what did you think about that? >> well, i served in nato. i worked with polish officials, polish military. i've been to poland twice now. there's no there's very few countries that are more pro-american than poland. maybe the baltics are right in there as well. we want our presence, and they also know that the fall of ukraine would be devastating to their national security, not only poland, but the baltic countries. and i thought, why is a white house official that's not even elected? it's not the president or the vice president. why are they why is that person belittling of the polish foreign minister? it's not appropriate. it's not right. we need more discipline in the white house now. poland is our friend. if you've got heartburn with them, get them on the phone and talk to them. but stop the public bashing of our friends. in a
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world that's where we have real threats out there with china, russia and iran. so i didn't like what i saw. i thought we could be better. >> congressman don bacon, thank you so much for coming on, sharing your time and your perspective on the news of the day. we appreciate it. look forward to having you back on wolf. >> pamela, up next up against the clock. the trump administration has until 6 p.m. eastern tonight to pay money owed to the u.s. usaid partners for the work they've already completed. we'll speak to two former usaid employees about the situation. they now find themselves remove it. >> moon and doug. >> you'll be back. emus can't help people customize and save hundreds on car insurance with liberty mutual. you're just a flightless bird. >> no, he's a dreamer, frank.
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>> in the arena with kasie hunt. >> today at 4. >> p.m. on cnn. >> we're just hours away from a crucial deadline. the trump administration has until 6 p.m. eastern tonight to pay money already owed to usaid partners for the work. they've already completed. the humanitarian agency has been gutted by cuts emerging as a major flashpoint in president trump's aggressive push to slash the federal government. pamela. >> let's dig deeper with cnn legal analyst elliot williams. elliot, what exactly does this judge's order mean for the legal fight over usaid? >> it's hard to say, because there's a few different legal fights happening overall. it's one of the bigger, broader question of the president's funding pause. blanket pause on funding across the federal government. how how ought that to work? is it lawful in the first place? then there's a second, smaller one about, with respect to usaid, in terms of funding for work that's already been done for people that have
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done work, this is the $2 billion. you've heard this, this, this term thrown about. what about that when people have already done work, can that be reimbursed? and so that's the legal fight happening there, sort of happening in concert. so much to watch over the course of the next day. >> so let's just take a step back. look at big picture here. this is just one of many legal fights over trump's push to slash the government. what do you make of the way that the courts are responding to trump's move so far? >> what i find so remarkable is that so many of the questions are over what you call temporary restraining orders or preliminary injunctions, all having to do with the speed with which they're moving. these cuts are happening at a breakneck pace, far faster than congress can keep up, or the courts can keep up. and it's really putting the courts in a position of having to make spot decisions on these vast questions of how the government ought to work. frankly, i think the administration's been quite sloppy in some of the work they've done in terms of some of these cuts they've made. and that's the position that the courts are in. and so i think the courts are doing their best to keep up. but this is a profound challenge for american government right now. >> it certainly is. elliot williams thank you, wolf.
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>> and thank you, elliot as well for me. let's get some more right now in the story from two former usaid workers who were both fired last month. joining us now are linda yee and benjamin thompson. linda, i want to read part of a statement posted by the u.s. secretary of state, marco rubio, this morning. i want to read it to you and listen to this. after a six week review, we are officially canceling 83% of the programs at usaid. the 5200 contracts that are now canceled spend tens of billions of dollars in ways that did not serve, and in some cases even harmed the core national interests of the united states. you're a former usaid worker now. what's your reaction to that? >> sure. thank you so much for asking me that question. i think that when we're talking about life saving aid programs, saying that we're going to cut 83% of usaid programs, we are going to put lives in jeopardy. there is no way that that is not going to harm millions of people's lives. when usaid takes on programs, we always did it in order to save
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lives and improve lives and save lives in the long run. this is things like disaster risk reduction. the world is only going to get more chaotic in terms of extreme weather events. so we cannot be cutting these programs right now. this will have a devastating impact, wolf. >> benjamin, can you ever recall a time when the work that you personally did for usaid actually harmed the u.s. national interest? >> i cannot know the the underlying assumption to. rubio's statement is that these programs are full. >> of what they're referring to as waste, fraud, and abuse. if that were actually the case, if that were their genuine intention, they would have gone about this in a very different way. they would have worked with existing personnel. they would have worked with the inspector general to review our programs or funding streams. instead, they immediately fired the inspector general and then terminated. as lin had said, lifesaving aid without any kind of official review process. this. i'm glad elliot mentioned the haste with which this is happening. that is intentional. that is a strategy and a shock and awe campaign that is meant to overwhelm you. the only
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genuine purpose to this is fear mongering. they're not trying to achieve any specific policy objective. >> and can. linden, let me ask the same question to you. do you ever do something at usaid specific program that you concluded actually harmed u.s. national interests 100%? >> no. i will say that i and the people that i served with, we all had the same mission that was to make the world safer, more peaceful and more prosperous for everyone, but especially for our fellow americans. everything we did was for that purpose. we worked across partnerships to make everyone stronger together. and as i said, it is only going to get more chaotic in terms of natural disasters. and this means that we all need to be in this together. human survival is not promised and america has in the past benefited from foreign aid. notably, after 9/11, after hurricane katrina and just recently, canada and mexico both gave foreign aid for the wildfires in california. so when the time comes, america will
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also need to ask for foreign aid. and we do not want to be the country that cut everyone else's lifesaving program. >> let me get let me get benjamin to weigh in on this as well. so 83%, almost all 83% of all usaid contracts have now been canceled, according to the statement from the secretary earlier this morning. what's that going to be? what's the impact of that? >> i don't think we can yet know how drastic the impact of that will be. i know we're already seeing incredibly negative impacts. i know that you all have done stories on pepfar or hiv programs. we're seeing immediate impacts with that, as well as with the halt on our food aid. i know that often the administration's response to that is that they've issued what they're calling lifesaving aid waivers for those kinds of programs, and they're claiming that those are continuing. that's not the case. our partners are not receiving the funds that they're supposed to be receiving. the logistical issues alone that these actions have created, and the confusion that has been put on our our
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loyal partners has been really devastating to see. and we're going to see the ramifications. >> of that. what do you make of the fact that rubio goes on to say that the remaining programs, there are not many, but the remaining programs will be administered more effectively by the state department. what do you make of that? >> i, i think it goes back to the earlier point that they're assuming that that u.s. aid workers are out to get them or out to resist their their policy goals and state would somehow be a better implementer for this. it's been very shocking and demoralizing, frankly, to see that the people that i worked with, good people from all walks of life that are committed to serving american interests, be demonized in such. >> a position. did you work at usaid? >> i'm relatively new. only a couple of years before that, i was at the state department. >> and lyndon, what about you? >> i'm also in the same boat, two years at usaid before that at the state department. >> and tell us about the way you were terminated, your jobs, the way you were fired 100%. >> so our contract was
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terminated with only five minutes of notice. what does that mean? we were told that we would not be able to report to work the next day with just five minutes notice, we were told to close down all of our laptops and our work phones. those were to be thrown away. so there was that's waste right there, and we were not able to report to work. we were not able to give notice. i work very closely with un partners in my role. previously, i was not able to give them any kind of notice that i would be leaving. we had to leave things half finished. it is not the way we would have wanted to go about closing these programs down. >> benjamin, the same for you? >> yes. it's a very similar situation for me. when we were sent in to to gather our stuff, we were given a very short window to do so. when we were there, the security situation, the personnel they had throughout the building, it was very clearly meant to intimidate, to threaten, which which just seemed wildly out of place and inappropriate. >> so inappropriate indeed. i've known many usaid employees over the years, and most of them
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were. almost all of them were so dedicated, hard working. they wanted to help people all over the world and wanted to save lives, which is what usaid is all about. but to both of you, thanks for all your important work. we appreciate it. and thanks for coming in right now. >> thank you very much, pamela. >> thank you so much. just ahead, it's the most important evidence prosecutors have against bryan kohberger. we'll speak to a forensics expert on how the dna found at the idaho crime scene will be put under a microscope in court. that's next. >> united states of scandal with jake tapper sunday at 9:00 on cnn. >> good morning with. >> dulcolax. >> good, good. >> good morning yeah. try dulcolax chewy fruit bites for fast and gentle constipation relief in as little as 30 minutes, making your good morning even better with dulcolax. >> still congested. >> nope. >> oh. mucinex 2 in 1 saline nasal spray spray. goodbye mucinex 2 in 1 saline nasal
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university of idaho students in november 2022. and we're learning more about a dna sample taken from a knife sheath left at the crime scene, which could be the make or break piece of evidence in this case. for analysis, we're joined by joseph scott morgan, distinguished professor of applied forensics at jacksonville state university, as well as a former investigator with the fulton county medical examiner's office in georgia. professor, thanks for coming on. so the idaho state lab, located this single source of male dna left on that knife sheath found on the bed next to one of the victims. the dna of bryan kohberger is a, quote, statistical match to that dna. how will prosecutors focus their case on this dna evidence? >> well, first off, thanks for having me. but yeah, with with that particular bit of dna that comes off of the knife clasp, which is the area where actually it snaps together to hold the knife itself in place. that's
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touch dna, which means that it's a tiny fragment of dna that essentially rubs off of a point of contact with the accused. all right. so they would have had to have searched this microscopically very, very thoroughly. and when they came up with that hit, i'm sure that they were quite amazed. this is a very bloody scene. and the fact that this knife sheath was immediately adjacent to these poor, beautiful young women tells us a lot. i really i've thought about this for a long time. i'm. i'm really thought. i wonder if perhaps he had just kind of discarded the knife sheath after he had attacked them. and at some point in time, he had been flipping this thing back and forth. he'd been very careful, other than that. but they've got him with this, i think. >> well, you say they got him. what can kohberger's defense team do to raise doubt about regarding the dna evidence found on that sheath? as you well know, it's it's all about raising doubt, right?
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>> yeah. it is. and so this is going to go back to the trash polls that were conducted in pennsylvania. you know, regarding his father and going through the forensic genetic genealogy, you know, we've been doing this for a while. however, there are still many questions about it. where we begin to look back generationally. some people have often said that you can be named as a suspect as a result of one of your cousins. just let that sink in just for a second. so these are open source databases that they're utilizing in order to facilitate this. and this is probably where the defense is going to make the most hay. in this case. they're going to say that this is not accepted, that it's bad practice those sorts of things. and they're going to beat this horse as long as they possibly can. >> what other evidence can kohberger's defense use to argue on behalf of their client? >> well, i think some of it is going to come down to placement
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relative to the timeline, you know, where in fact was he at any given time? there's been some question about that cctv evidence driving about up in, you know. moscow where he's, you know, essentially circling back and forth. is there anything wrong with doing that? no, there's not, but, you know, it's kind of fascinating. pamela. he he actually dropped a bit of information at some point in time. that same night, he claimed that he had gone out to a secluded area in order to do stargazing. well, you look back at the meteorology reports that night, you had a ceiling of about 400ft. there was actually ice falling and you had fog. i don't know about you guys, but i don't think i could appreciate any kind of celestial bodies at that point in time. and he's he's hanging his hat on that saying that that's actually where he was.
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>> interesting. i want to just really quickly go back to the dna. you know, it's not just about detecting it, but also preserving that evidence. help us understand how investigators work to preserve and maintain that dna evidence once it's discovered, given how central it is to the case and how small the sample is. yeah. >> well, this is the way i like to. i teach my students this, actually. i tell them, listen, you, you, anytime you walk onto a scene, you have to treat every bit of evidence. i don't care how minuscule it is, as if it's unstable nitroglycerin. it could blow up in your hand at any point in time. so everything there would have to be treated with kid gloves. some of the stuff that i witnessed relative to the processing, the scene. i'm not a big fan of, you know, there's one classic image of them removing one of the mattresses from the from from the house and actually putting it into the open bed of a pickup truck. and that's not within
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industry standards. i have, you know, there's a real problem with that. and also, you know, before kohberger was actually hooked up on charges and brought back they they the authorities were already attempting to clean that apartment. they had actually hired a service. and, you know, our friends can go back and take a look at this. there's kind of this, this plastic tunnel that they had created so that the crime scene cleanup people could go in. and that's that's a really bad practice. and then you couple that with the fact that the authorities there allowed them to tear down this house, which i think is a bad decision. >> now, joseph scott morgan, thank you for coming on. >> my pleasure. thanks for having me, guys. >> well. >> and coming up, he's been the mvp in my hometown of buffalo long before the nfl gave him the title officially. and now looks like bills quarterback josh allen is going to be sticking around buffalo for quite a
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bills and your buffalo bills as well. what makes this deal though. so historic? >> first of all, i have to say i love when we get to talk bills because wolf blitzer smiling is the best tv we can offer. absolutely. see? listen, josh allen wasn't being paid among the top ten quarterbacks in salary, so this record breaking six year, $330 million deal. it includes the largest guarantee ever given to any nfl player $250 million. here's a list of the most guaranteed qb money. allen still had four years left on his current deal, but this extends him through the year 2030. now bringing him closer to the top of the yearly market for top qbs as well. allen, as wolf has mentioned, has been the mvp in buffalo for quite some time, giving his all on the field but also giving back to the community. this was the moment he was surprised with a message of congrats from kids at oshei children's hospital back in buffalo, just after he won the mvp, he had a message for them as well. listen to this. >> oh man. >> i mean i just. it's pretty
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