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>> market mayhem. another bleak day on wall street as investors react to president trump's refusing to rule out a recession this year and the uncertainty around his tariff policy, as trump warns that those taxes could still go up. >> plus, let's. >> try this again. >> u.s. and ukrainian. >> officials in. >> saudi arabia for fresh talks. >> after that. >> ugly oval office blowup. >> what we know about. >> this new critical diplomatic. >> push to end. >> the war in ukraine. and could lyle and erik menendez soon be freed? we're expecting to hear this hour from the l.a. district attorney who's considering the brothers request to be resentenced. we're following these major developing stories and many more, all coming in right here to cnn news central. >> today. wall street rattled as president trump's global trade

war enters a new phase today. china began imposing tariffs on a wide range of farm products from the u.s. and adding to the economic uncertainty. this. >> are you expecting a recession this year? >> i hate to predict things like that. there is a period of transition because what we're doing is very big. of course you hesitate. who knows? all i know is this we're going to take in hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs, and we're going to become so rich, you're not going to know where to spend all that money. i'm telling you. you just watch. >> cnn's alayna treene is live from the white house for us. so, elena, what is the white house trying to do with this messaging? >> well. >> it's so interesting. and some of those comments are so fascinating to me. one, of course, you saw him double down on those comments that he had made earlier in the day about refusing to rule out a recession, but also for a president like donald trump, someone who loves to engage in

hyperbole. he exaggerates. and you've heard many of his other top cabinet secretaries, people like howard lutnick, the commerce secretary, saying there's no way that there's going to be a recession. it's very interesting how he's being kind of cautious in his language on this answer, and it's in line with what he's been saying over the past several weeks, which is he expects some sort of short term pain. and this is repeatedly what i'm hearing from white house officials as well, that, yeah, there's probably going to be some short term pain. and that is what they're trying to argue. but at the same time, we are hearing wall street, capitol hill, the global, our global trading partners, all of them very concerned about what they are seeing specifically as the fallout from this kind of whiplash on the tariff policy. but one person that we did hear from this morning on this was kevin hassett, one of donald trump's top economic advisers. he did try to have a more economic message. and again, he argued that he believed the trade deficit would be temporary as well and be solved soon. take a listen to how he put it. >> people are anxious about

future tariffs and so they're stockpiling. and so that's a very, very temporary phenomenon. there's a heck of a lot of uncertainty that's resolved. i think that in the end, the trade policy uncertainty is the one thing that people will see. and that is going to be resolved in early april. as president trump has said. >> so that last part there, brian, i didn't fully understand, to be honest, when he's saying it will be resolved, the tariff policy in april, we know that the president has said that by april 2nd, he expects tariffs on u.s. or, excuse me, on canada and mexico, the united states neighbors, to go back into effect in a bigger way to maybe have more tariffs placed on them. so if anything, we might see more uncertainty in april. but what he did also try to argue, and i caught up with him after that interview here at the white house. he essentially was trying to argue that there are other parts of the economic agenda. when you look at tax policy, which they're of course, trying to do right now in that broader spending deal, we'll see if congress can avoid a government shutdown on friday. if not, that will only send the markets, you know, into throw them into more uncertainty. but he was trying to argue that that and some of the other economic

priorities could offset some of that. that tariff uncertainty. but the bottom line here is one, the trump administration and the president himself are acknowledging that, yeah, we could see prices go higher. they don't want to say that a recession could not happen all at the same time. knowing that the president is dug in on tariffs, he believes that the united states is being taken advantage of. and he believes it's a good negotiating tool. we'll see if that changes. if the market continues to react the way it is, brianna. >> alayna treene live for us at the white house. thank you boris. >> in addition to these new retaliatory tariffs. from china, canada's. >> tariffs on the u.s. >> are still. >> in place. >> last week, it put a 25%. >> levy on things. >> like beer, fruit and vegetables, shoes, cosmetics and more. >> and today. >> ontario starts charging a 25% surcharge on electricity to three u.s. >> states minnesota. >> michigan and new york. the tariff war and opposition to president trump is actually unified. canadians. listen to

these remarks from mark carney, who is expected to be canada's next prime minister. he was just elected to head the liberal party. yesterday. soon, potentially to be sworn in as p.m. the canadian government has rightly retaliated and is rightly retaliating with our own tariffs that will have maximum impact in the united states and minimum impact here in canada. >> and my government will keep our tariffs on until the americans show us respect. >> let's discuss with doug ford, the premier of ontario, which is the province that's to impose that surcharge on 1.5 million homes and businesses in the united states. he also ordered all u.s. alcohol to be removed from ontario shelves. premier, thank you so much for sharing part of the afternoon with us. what do you hope to achieve with this surcharge? what needs to happen for you to remove it? >> well. >> first. >> of all, thanks. thanks so much for having me on. boris and

i start off every interview with telling you americans that canadians love americans. i love americans. it's one person that caused this problem, and that's president trump as he is putting tariffs on us. even if he says he's putting it on hold. there's still 60% of goods that are crossing the borders that will be tariff. and it's hurting both economies. it's hurting the american economy. it's hurting the canadian economy. uncertainty is what people don't like hearing and general life. not to mention the markets are tumbling and investors from around the world are looking twice at america and in canada to invest in. there's no reason for a recession. i call it the self-made donald trump recession. he he ran on a mandate to lower prices to make sure we didn't have inflation, to create more jobs. and it's backfired. so let's sit down at the table and let's start working on a new usmca deal.

even though president trump said it was the greatest deal he's ever made, nothing has changed. so i guess it's not the greatest deal now. >> his argument would be that he's trying to remake the american economy to produce more goods that are currently imported into the u.s. here at home with these electricity surcharges, you say that the move is designed to protect your province. the administration, if they see it as an escalation and they reciprocate with tariffs on lumber, steel and dairy, ultimately, doesn't that hurt your constituents? >> no. we're we're looking at negotiating through strength. if he cuts off the lumber or puts a tariff, do you know whose costs are going up? it's the american people that want to buy a home. they're going to pay more for for their home or or steel that they need, or aluminum that is only 16% of aluminum is manufactured in the u.s. they rely on over 60% of aluminum to come down there for their goods.

high grade nickel coming out of ontario, that 50% of the high grade nickel for your military, aerospace and manufacturing comes from ontario. and the list keeps going on and on and on. not to mention the 4.3 million barrels of crude oil that we shipped down. every, every single day. so i believe in building an american fortress. let's make sure that we focus on having the two greatest countries in the world, the most prosperous, the richest, the safest. the problem is not canada. it's china right now. and he has to keep an eye on china. >> i do want to ask you about the question of fairness and specifically on on one claim, because i've heard it from trump and a number of officials in his administration, most recently, commerce secretary howard lutnick, he argues that canada has a 255% tariff on dairy imports. the administration has cited that over and over again. is that number accurate? do you think it's fair for american dairy

farmers? >> well, what i'd like to do is sit down and discuss these issues with them at the at a usmca table. what i will tell you this if we take the 4.3 million barrels a day that we shipped down there to keep your economy going off the balance sheet, the u.s. has a $56 billion surplus, a trade surplus with canada. i'm okay with that. that's fine. things were going fine. everything was moving forward. market was going up a little bit. everyone was optimistic. and all of a sudden, out of nowhere, he wants to attack his closest neighbor and ally and his number. i call or their number one customer. you don't attack your number one customer and expect the results that he thought were going to happen. protectionism does not work, especially between canada and the u.s. maybe you should take a page out of ronald reagan's book. >> premier, i do want to ask you about mark carney. he is in line to become the next prime

minister. we saw justin trudeau's relationship with trump evolve and then ultimately degrade. how do you think mark carney is going to approach president trump? >> well, mr. carney is a very, very bright individual, and it's up to mr. carney to build that relationship with president trump. they're both bright people. let's make no mistake about it. agree or disagree with president trump. he understands finances. so does mark carney. and so do i. we're business people. and if we sit down around the table, we can resolve the problem and make sure that both countries prosper like the likes of which this country has never seen, or the likes of which the u.s. has never seen. if we work together. >> premier doug ford, we appreciate you joining us and sharing your point of view. >> thank you so much. and god bless america and god bless canada. thank you so much. >> appreciate you sir. brianna.

>> on capitol hill, house republicans have a spending plan to avoid a potentially devastating government shutdown. but the clock is ticking for lawmakers to agree on it because there's a friday deadline and it is fast approaching. this is a measure that would keep the money flowing in washington through the end of september. it includes an increase in defense spending and some cuts to domestic spending, which democrats will likely oppose. the house is expected to vote on the bill tomorrow, but with a super slim majority. republicans have virtually no margin of error to pass it. cnn's lauren fox is live for us on capitol hill, following all of this for us. lauren, where do things stand right now? >> yeah. >> brianna. >> the. first challenge is going to be. >> whether or not. >> house republican leadership can get this through their own chamber. >> we expect. >> that a vote would happen tomorrow in the house of representatives. and again. >> this is. >> such a narrow majority that speaker johnson likely can't afford to lose more. >> than one vote. >> that assumes that every single democrat is voting against this piece of legislation, and that does remain to be seen. but so far,

every single democrat that i've talked to. has argued that this is house republicans control of this chamber. it is up to them to keep the government funded. now, there are some good and bright spots for speaker johnson. one of them. a lot of the conservatives who typically do not vote for these stopgap spending measures, are signaling that they are behind the speaker. in part, that is because of some work that president donald trump did last week when he invited lawmakers to come to the white house, where he made his case that this is crucial to ensuring that they can really move on to other pieces of legislation that would help advance president trump's agenda. now, the other question mark is, even if this gets out of the house of representatives, what happens once it gets over to the senate? republicans do control that chamber, but they do not have a filibuster proof majority. that means they will need at least seven democrats, likely more because senator rand paul, a republican, typically votes against these stopgap measures. already you are seeing a lot of consternation, a lot of

concern from senate democrats about this proposal that house republicans put forward over the weekend. it remains to be seen whether or not democrats would get behind this bill, if it gets out of the house, or whether or not they'd let the government shut down. brianna. >> all right. the suspense again. lauren fox, live from the hill for us. still to come, we're live in saudi arabia, where secretary of state marco rubio has just arrived for a high stakes meeting with ukrainian officials. it's the first time the two sides have met since that oval office blowup a week and a half ago, and dominican authorities say they have questioned the young man, who was one of the last people seen with a missing american college student here. what he reportedly told them, and a new democratic bill could force the trump administration to rehire veterans fired by doge big if, though, if republicans support it maybe if he. >> hadn't been such. >> a. >> he would have gotten away.

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well. he made clear that he wants to hear things from the ukrainian side that he's in listening mode, and he wants to hear essentially the sacrifices that ukraine is willing to make to get to a peace deal. because, of course, there has been this trump administration criticism that the ukrainians are not yet ready to negotiate a peace deal. so rubio said that he wants to hear what difficult decisions, what concessions the ukrainians are willing to make, like the concessions, he says russia will have to make. and that's interesting, boris, because we have not heard really anything on the russian side in terms of what they are willing to give up. a lot of these concessions that they will be talking about will be territorial concessions. and rubio said that, you know, they're not going to get into a very granular level of detail. they're not going to be in that room poring over maps and drawing lines. but he wants to talk about what ons he says are in the realm of the possible. now, of course, the trump administration has shut down. put a pause on that

military and intelligence assistance for ukraine. rubio said that the defensive intelligence sharing has remained in effect. of course, that begs the question of when you're defending yourself against the russian onslaught, what is offense and what is defense? but more importantly, boris, in order to get that tap of military and intelligence assistance, turn back on this key, he says. this meeting tomorrow, he says, will be key. boris, what we're going to see tomorrow is the second step in this process of trying to get the russians and the ukrainians to the table. the first step was three weeks ago, when rubio and other top u.s. officials met with the russian side in riyadh. also here in saudi arabia. tomorrow is the second step. the europeans and the ukrainians have criticized this kind of two track approach because they have essentially been frozen out of those conversations with the russians. and i should note, boris, that it's interesting to see how the u.s. is approaching the two different sides. a stick with the ukrainians and taking

away that military and intelligence assistance to essentially force them to the table. and the carrot approach with the russians giving them that meeting on the world stage, saying that american troops will not go into ukraine and that ukraine will not be a member of nato. two very different approaches, but designed to eventually, boris, get the two sides to the negotiating table. >> boris alex marquardt, thank you so much for the update from saudi arabia. let's get some analysis now from jeffrey edmonds. he's a former director for russia at the national security council and now a senior fellow at the center for a new american security. jeffrey, thanks for being with us. this comment from secretary of state rubio about ukraine making difficult decisions. what does that entail? >> it's hard to know what they. >> mean by. >> decisions unless they mean completely giving. >> in to. >> putin's demands. because there's really not. >> a peace. >> deal. to be had. >> as long as putin believes he's. >> winning, as. >> long as he thinks he can achieve his strategic goals by the way he's doing it now by.

taking land in ukraine, there's not going to be any meaningful peace deals coming out of russia. >> should we stop looking at this as a negotiated peace by the u.s. and more as a negotiated surrender of ukraine? >> that's how i would look at it, because it's not. putin hasn't voiced any kind of or hasn't signaled he's willing to back away from his strategic goals at all. so it's difficult to see what the actual negotiating space would be, unless you're just giving him everything he wants. >> how have the how is the dynamic for these negotiations changed since that oval office meeting? because to alex's point about a carrot and a stick, it seems like the u.s. is punishing ukraine. >> that's right. it seems like there's this view that ukraine is is the is the entity that's in the way of the peace deal. it's almost like, get ukraine out of the way so that the u.s. and russia can improve their own relations. but there's really nothing to be had there. so it's really, you know, there's there's not much change away from this idea that ukraine is

standing in the way of peace. and that's just not true. >> and you hear zelenskyy reiterating this, especially since that oval office meeting, he's saying ukraine has been for peace since day one of this war. and it's really russia, russia's fault that this war is continuing. he's meeting with the crown prince. i mean, what is to be gained? what are you looking for in that meeting? >> i don't i think he's looking for support in addition to whatever limited support the united states is going to continue to give him, and he's still trying to hold, you know, the center, not the center stage, but trying to hold public opinion on the ukrainian side. given the fact that the united states has taken such a dramatic shift in its approach to ukraine. >> to your point about surrender versus negotiated peace, where do you see the the lines being drawn when it comes to new borders? because ukraine says that they're preventing a russian advance in the east. russia is making advances in kursk, that part of russia that ukraine has made some gains in. where does that line wind up

landing? >> i think the line i think it's important to realize that that for putin, the number one objective is not land. i think that's something that that a lot of people think it is about the neutrality and demilitarization of ukraine. that's the central goal here. you know, besides luhansk and donetsk, that's notionally where the where the the line would be. but i don't think he would he wouldn't stop there if he didn't get those strategic goals of the neutrality of ukraine and the demilitarization, militarization of ukraine. >> and so how does that look like in a negotiation, that neutrality of ukraine that he desires? do you expect that to to come from this, or do you expect it not to come from that, such that he continues, what appears to be these territorial goals? >> it's not i don't think the ukrainians certainly don't want this. now. they've talked about neutrality in the past, but not with russia, not with russia's invasion. that's right. and so i think what putin wants is, is the united states to force the ukrainians into some kind of neutrality agreement, because he doesn't trust the ukrainians. and so it's got to be backed by

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dominican republic, is that the young man told police he and konanki went into the ocean, where he claims the young woman was swept away by a wave. but he also told police that he believed that she had followed him out of the ocean before he fell asleep on the beach, because he was feeling ill. according to the law enforcement source, this is the timeline they've been able to put together. konanki was last seen on surveillance camera with seven other people entering the beach at the republica hotel in punta cana on thursday at 415 in the morning. five young women and one young man who were with her left the beach area at 5:55 a.m., but konanki stayed behind with the young man, who was also part of the group. that young man is seen on surveillance video leaving the beach area four hours later at 955 in the morning. konanki was reported missing to the hotel staff at 4:00 in the afternoon. that very same day. overnight, i also spoke on the phone with her father, who has traveled to the dominican republic. subbarayudu

konanki described his daughter as a very nice girl and a very ambitious young woman who wanted to pursue a career in medicine. she's a pre-med student at the university of pittsburgh, where she's a junior. the family initially requested the assistance of loudon county authorities in virginia, the state where they live. this is what the local sheriff had to say about the case. >> it's possible that she. >> never went into the water. it's possible. >> that there's something else that could have happened to her. so we can't just assume that that's the case. so we have to, you know, presume that at this point, anything's possible. >> and borders the dominican national emergency system is coordinating search efforts on the island for konanki, according to a statement. officials are using four teams of drones equipped with advanced technology that have been deployed to conduct a thorough

search in the coastal area of bavaro. originally from india, konanki is a permanent resident of the united states, as is her family. her father told me they have been living in the country since 2006. boris. >> rafael. to be clear, that young man who is being questioned, is he also a tourist? >> he is a tourist. he was with the group initially and they were all hanging out together the night of the fifth and the morning of the sixth. what police have told us is that they are all americans, with the exception of konanki, who was born in india but raised in the united states. >> boris rafael romo, thank you so much for that update, brianna. >> now to some of the other headlines that we're watching this hour. a major rescue operation is underway at the site of a fiery collision involving a u.s. flagged oil tanker and a portuguese cargo ship off the northeastern coast of england. a spokesperson telling cnn that all of the tanker's crew members have been accounted for and brought to safety, but could not confirm how many were on board at the

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fired from his job at the small business administration. chris, you are an air force veteran. you spent about a decade as a military intelligence analyst, and you were recently fired from your job at the small business administration, not once, but twice. is that right? explain that. >> yes, ma'am. so first of all, thank you very much for having me. back in early february, as business was going on as usual at the small business administration, where here in minnesota, i was the deputy director of the minnesota district office. and one day, without any forewarning and certainly without any coordination with my supervisor or leadership that i was aware of, i received a letter saying that i had two weeks notice and that i was being fired for performance reasons. i knew very well that i was not having performance issues. i spoke to my supervisor. he had not conveyed any performance issues, but there it was, two weeks because of my probationary

status. only two days later, i was in a management call with senior leadership at the agency and we were all told, if you received this message, you are not being terminated. it was sent in error and i very quickly afterwards received an email that said as much. and 24 hours later i once again received another email, the same as the one before from an automated robot saying please see the attachment. and here again, it was a signed letter telling me i was being terminated for my performance. only this time it was effective immediately. >> and this one was real. >> this one was absolutely real, and i would even offer that the first one was real as well. it maybe was sent out in a draft form, but it certainly conveyed the intention. but the second one that i received was signed on agency letterhead. i asked my supervisor, the district director here in minnesota, and he confirmed it was true. >> so what do you make of these firings that you're seeing of veterans who make up a big part of the workforce, but just the

federal workforce in general, as it's also being, you know, vilified for just being, you know, this sort of bloated workforce of bureaucrats. >> this has been a lot of chaos. veterans have made promises twice. they have made a promise to join the military in uniform, to serve their country. and then after fulfilling that service, they've made a second commitment to their country, making the very same oath in front of the very same flag that as part of the federal workforce, as long as they do their job well, the government will return the favor with job security. and both times we have betrayed those veterans. and then, to make matters worse, on the back end, we're gutting the very agency that's supposed to take care of them after this very unexpected disruption to their lives, whether they're seeking unemployment assistance, whether they're seeking assistance for mental challenges that they're having, resulting possibly from post-traumatic

stress to even simple services such as working with the small business administration through the va to start a small business. and so for our veterans, this has been promise after promise, followed by a lot of betrayals and broken promises. >> and we've seen this administration after administration, including trump in in his first term, make it a priority to hire veterans, right. what do you how do you sort of square that with what you're seeing? the firing of veterans and what is actually quite popular with some americans? this idea of reducing the federal workforce, that is something that does have a lot of traction. how do you square these things? how do you explain that to someone who says, you know, i do think government should be smaller. >> you know, this isn't really a conversation about small government or big government or red government or blue government. this is about good

government. and the government makes a promise to its veterans that in return for their service, they will receive preferential consideration in the hiring process. they also promise veterans that in what's called a reduction in force, they will also receive some special considerations in the drawdown process. but when you fire a probationary worker, which is what's happened here in the thousands, none of that special consideration is happening. and so here again, we're talking about a betrayal where we've said, we'll take care of you. but apparently that only means on the front end because there was no consideration. using my case as an example on the back end. and so we're seeing a constant discussion about what's best for our veterans and who cares more for our veterans and vote this way because they'll care for our veterans or vote that way. but at the end of the day, what we're seeing right now is chaos resulting in exactly the same kind of unintended casualties that one would expect. when you don't do the proper

coordination and when you don't follow the process. >> chris, where do you go from here? where do veterans who've been fired go from here i would assume that a lot of veterans are doing exactly what i'm doing this week. >> i'm doing the dishes to make up for the fact that i'm sitting around this house without contributing. now i'm scrambling on linkedin, but i'm in a very unique position where i have a little bit of time and a little bit of flexibility before my wife completely loses her patience with me, that i can take the opportunity to speak out for federal workers who are still employed and being demonized, to speak out for veterans who are federal workers, still being demonized, and to speak out for those who have been lawfully unlawfully terminated. and so i'm going to take this opportunity so that my colleagues in the government can get back to taking care of their families and get back to looking for good work. and i'm going to sit here and stick up for people because it's what needs to be done. >> yeah. well, i'm glad to hear you have a little flexibility. we've heard of many cases where

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penal code, under the california law, that's what nathan hochman was speaking about today. now, the district attorney's recommendation there should be no resentencing of the menendez brothers at this time, but it can go to the sentencing hearing. but the recommendation is vastly different from what prior district attorney gascon had said. then you have a third pathway, which is clemency or pardon by the governor. so those competing pathways here right now, this presser was focused on the resentencing, although i must say i watched a press conference, but i feel like i saw a closing argument in court for why the menendez brothers should not be resentenced. >> well, talk a little bit more about that, because i think if anything, the case of these brothers has been so impacted over the years by political considerations and just how you have district attorneys thinking about how hard. or soft they

need to be on crime at any given moment, as they consider the circumstances of these two. >> yes. so the prior district attorney, gascon, had made a recommendation that resentencing was appropriate. that's the motion that's on the books with the court right now. so what we saw was hochman, who had said he wants to do a complete and full investigation and look into everything back into the records before making his office's recommendation. well, he said, you have to withdraw that prior motion made by gascon's office and take a look at our submission, judge, because a judge will ultimately decide, as opposed to a three page statement of facts that gascon had. we have 60 pages. think about the difference between the arguments that are going to be set forth before the court. when you have that dichotomy of what the district attorney intends to present. so ultimately, while it will be up to a judge, certainly here a hochman has set forth a

more thorough analysis of the why. the district attorney's recommendation is what it is. >> does it seem most likely, misty, that this is going to wind up being determined by california's governor, gavin newsom, and whether he decides to grant clemency? >> so that is another factor, because it's a totally separate process that doesn't involve the district attorney. the governor goes to the parole board, and the parole board makes a determination about whether or not someone should be eligible. they list out all of the factors they do this analysis, and the governor takes it into consideration. but something i found very, very interesting in this press conference is that hochman, when laying out his position on this and the office's position, went back and used a prior decision made by gavin newsom in the sirhan sirhan. that's the person who assassinated robert f kennedy. were the parole board actually said he should be eligible. and

governor newsom said no, he should not. and hochman actually mirrored that framework that gavin newsom had set up when making that decision and did his analysis based on that. so i think, boris, there is some acknowledgment by hochman that he knows this other path exists, and he's actually kind of setting forth the arguments that would be against that. however, gavin newsom can act independently as the governor in conjunction with the parole board. so it's certainly is another path. >> really a fascinating legal study for a case that is so divisive and so controversial. misty marris, thank you so much for breaking that down for us. >> thank you. >> here's a quick look at the dow jones industrial average. ouch. we're following the wall street jitters over these trade wars and recession fears. the dow currently down nearly 800 points. it's been about a week, week and a half of days like this. stay with cnn. we'll discuss in just a few minutes

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