way in which this was sort of told to the public, was that the right way? and i know there's everybody's grappling that the cdc, nih, all of them, we have been asking people about their own personal reflections on the pandemic. and i want to get to priscilla, who wrote, my mother died from covid, and this is a year i can't get past. it seems i am still reliving it every day since then. we also got a message from sherry. it was utter devastation. within a month i lost two close coworkers to covid. one beloved e.r. doctor took his own life, and that's when i left. i never want to experience anything like that again. and lastly, we have susan in ocean pines, maryland. she shared this message with us. it prompted me to reevaluate my work life balance, and i made significant career changes to be able to enjoy days with life in the slow lane. i don't know whether i'd have come to this

realization had covid not happened, and i might still be going 100mph to the hamster wheel. sanjay, these are such deeply personal reflections, and you have some of your. we all have them. you have some of your own. what were some of your own reflections? >> yeah. i got to say, first of all, you know, i think because i was a reporter covering this just walking down the street, even walking here today, people still will share their reflections with me. i mean, it is it is deeply ingrained in a lot of people's psyche. i think for me, you know, obviously it was just a constant sort of drumbeat. i mean, i was getting up at 430 in the morning every day for years, and. >> you were never not on tv. i mean, i remember that, yeah. >> and talking to people, reporting on this all the time, i think i am worried about the overall impact on public health. i mean, cdc just got rid of 550 people, the nih, 1100 people. we have measles that are circulating. i was just in west texas, where. >> this. >> is. >> one of the. >> vestiges. ed whelan. yeah, this is so we are going to have

some real challenges. and i think the question will be, does the public health system have the infrastructure to be able to respond to this? it was already challenged even before the pandemic. we'll see what happens. now. >> that was my biggest worry and my biggest takeaway was going into hospitals. i am no doctor, but i watched people die and i watched nurses and doctors, you know, saying they don't think they can do this anymore. and i thought, oh, my god, are we going to lose our health system the way in which we are used to it? and it was a big moment for me. i mean, i lost it on the air because i just was so scared for all of us. >> yeah. that conversation. >> with you. yeah, it was really, really hard. dr. sanjay gupta, i'm so glad you're still with us. i'm so glad that you're still here telling us the truth about what's happening in our world. >> we'll keep doing it. >> i appreciate you. hey, i'm so glad to see you in person. dr. sanjay gupta with us in person. please come back. you got it, i will. all right. our next hour starts now. it happened this hour. we are standing by for the opening bell on wall street

after a bruising sell off yesterday. investors on edge over president trump's recession talk and the tariff whiplash. will stocks bounce back today? and right now? critical talks underway in saudi arabia. they've been going for about four hours now with the hope of ending russia's war in ukraine. secretary of state marco rubio is meeting with top ukrainian officials as the fighting rages on there. and vice president jd vance on capitol hill. he's meeting with house republicans to try to shore up support for their stopgap spending bill ahead of an expected vote today. i'm sarah sigmon with kate bolduan, and john berman is out today. this is cnn news central. >> this hour we are standing by for the markets to open after they had an ugly start to the week. the dow and s&p 500 each had their worst day of the year. the nasdaq posted its biggest

single day decline since september 2022. fears of recession and president trump's trade war is causing concern among investors. someone not helping to allay those concerns. president trump himself, when he would not rule out a recession, could hit this year, instead answering the question by saying the u.s., the u.s. economy will see a quote unquote period of transition a little less than 30 minutes until the opening bell. futures right now, they are down. cnn's alayna treene is at the white house tracking all of this for us. so, elena, what are you hearing from the white house right now about? well, what we're looking at. futures are down, markets are about to open. and what happened yesterday? >> right. well, we haven't actually heard much, particularly directly from president donald trump, which is unusual given how much we have heard from him almost daily, really coming out and speaking to reporters, i note that yesterday we did not hear from him publicly. he did not open up any of his executive order signings or other events to the press, and we're not expected to hear from him today either

until after markets close. he is set to speak to the business roundtable at 5 p.m. there will be a lot of ceos and other business leaders there, but again, that is after markets close. all to say, everyone is going to be watching those remarks very closely, really looking for some reassurances from the president after one, of course, this trade war and the concerns and uncertainty that the tariffs that he has been imposing on the united states, neighbors, questions about that, but then also, of course, about what he said over the weekend where he refused to rule out a recession. and those comments to me, kate, just as someone who has covered the president for as long as i have, we're so striking to me because he is a president who likes to exaggerate to use hyperbole. but he again refused to say that there could not be a recession, that there would not be a recession, i should say, and also refused to rule out higher prices. now, we did get one statement from the white house yesterday, it essentially urged reporters to look at the investments that have been spurred because of the president's election win and

the investments coming into america. they also pointed to the successes of the president's first term when it related to economic policy. but again, nothing very specific. in light of that market reaction and really seeing the market's worst day of 2025, wiping away any gains that have been seen since the president took office. now, one other thing as well, that i do want to point out is this all seems to be really testing, like the president and the white house seem to be really testing the resilience of the economy. and when i talk to white house officials, trump officials, they tell me that the president is dug in, unlike during his first term, where he used to, you know, sometimes dictate policy and definitely dictated rhetoric based on the stock market performance. we're not really seeing that this time around. he is very committed to these tariffs. he believes that the united states is being taken advantage of. and it does seem like he's ready to continue moving forward with that. despite the uncertainty and concerns we're hearing from wall street. >> yeah. elena, thank you so much. let's see what happens in

the next 30 minutes. sarah. >> tick tock. all right. the big question this morning will markets rebound or will they do the opposite? cnn's vanessa yurkevich is with me now. vanessa. everybody's kind of waiting and watching on tenterhooks. >> yeah. >> so yesterday the s&p and the dow had. their worst. >> day of 2025. >> the nasdaq had. >> their steepest. >> drop had its steepest. >> drop since september of 2022. >> but look at. >> futures right now. >> pretty much flat. >> this could. >> be wall. >> street taking. >> a breath. >> trying to. assess what's coming next. we know that the president is holding that business roundtable. >> maybe that is. >> quelling some. >> fears. >> but we're about. >> 30 minutes away from the open. >> of course. >> this could change. >> throughout the day. >> wall street is also. >> looking at. >> a mixed economic. picture right now, right. we have consumer. >> confidence, which is down. we have inflation rising. >> we have job. growth pretty solid but a. >> little less than expected. >> in the jobs. >> report last week.

>> tariffs going. >> up and gdp. estimates pointing down. >> so a lot of mixed messaging about. >> the economy. >> right now. we heard from larry summers yesterday. he's the former treasury secretary. here's what he said about what. >> he thinks is. >> going on and what is impacting wall street and main. >> street. >> people depend upon. >> predictability, predictability. >> of policy. >> predictability of what the central bank. >> is going to do. >> predictability about. >> the enforcement. >> of law. >> predictability about their. supply chains. >> and we've. >> given up all. >> of that. >> with surprise after surprise after surprise. >> now, he went on to say that. earlier in the year, he would. >> not have predicted. >> a recession. now he's. >> about. >> 5050. however. goldman sachs goes on to say that they believe there's a 20% chance of a recession just up slightly from

15%. that is not very high odds. the overall economy right now is pretty sturdy. we are grappling with constant changes in economic policy. jerome powell said last week that he believes that we need to wait and see what's going to happen, because before we can make any determinations about the economy, he said that the economy is in a good place right now. i don't know if jerome powell is going to have that much sway at this moment, but you can see the picture right now mixed pretty much flat on wall street as we wait for that opening. >> bell. >> we will wait and see. it's just another day on wall street. but ultimately we have to find out what's going to happen in the big picture. and that takes a lot longer to try to figure out. vanessa yurkevich it's always a pleasure to have you and thank you. thank you. all right. over to you, kate. >> much more to come on that front. we also got the other breaking news. let's turn to that. we've been tracking this morning critical talks between the united states and kyiv are happening as we speak in saudi arabia for over four hours now, secretary of state marco rubio

and trump's national security advisor, mike waltz have been in meetings, have been meeting and sitting down where you see the pictures there with their ukrainian counterparts hanging in the balance. this morning, lots of minerals deal a potential cease fire. intel and military aid restarting for ukraine and bottom line, an end to russia's brutal assault. cnn anchor and chief national security analyst jim sciutto is with me now watching this very, very, very closely. as things progress. but what are you going to look for when they come out of this meeting today? >> well. >> for one. >> what is the u.s. demanding from russia? right? i mean, the public talk in recent days and actions has been pressure solely on ukraine. you saw marco rubio yesterday, say going into these talks, they're curious what ukraine is willing to give up, what concessions it's willing to make. this is, of course, happening as the u.s. has already taken something away from ukraine, which is crucial. intelligence sharing, which is and i've been speaking to

ukrainian officers on the ground in ukraine. it is impacting current operations there. they are feeling this. and it's not just on offensive operations, because a lot of the intelligence that the u.s. has stopped sharing impacts their defensive operations as well, because they cannot strike russian positions before they fire on ukraine, including ukrainian cities. so the focus has been on what can ukraine bring to the table. and this, of course, has been a consistent thing, kate, because it goes back to that infamous oval office meeting with president trump, is the pressure on the ukrainian side. now, i know in the midst of the back and forth over the last couple of weeks, trump has said he may. raise sanctions or impose new sanctions on russia, but we haven't seen that yet. and that's the difference here. and that's what i hear from european diplomats, is that they fear an imbalance in these negotiations. >> that's a great point. i mean, what you definitely it's not just saying it. you are seeing it. actions have been taken when it comes to ukraine.

actions have not been taken. when you're talking about with russia on russia, has russia said anyone within the kremlin say, said or shown any willingness on concessions for peace? >> zero. right. and and the u.s. intelligence read of this has been consistent for weeks. and that is that russia has no intention of making significant concessions that they are holding on to their maximalist positions. right. which is to keep the territory they've taken via an invasion. right. i mean, that's how this happened. they invaded the country twice in 2014 and 2022, and that they don't want to give that up and that in fact, president putin's intention remains to to take the entire those those two entire eastern provinces of donetsk and luhansk and that, again, you know, when you think of who's getting pressured to give something up, you know, first of

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>> arguing that this. >> is the. >> clearest way. >> to. make sure that the president can advance the rest. >> of his agenda. >> basically. >> move aside this issue of funding until. >> the end. >> of september. >> and go ahead and pursue tax cuts, a debt ceiling increase, as well. >> as other. >> cuts that are important to conservatives. >> but first. leadership has to get the votes. and like you noted, there's already one republican who is a hard no. but there are many others who are skeptical. here are two of them tim burchett and rich mccormick. >> currently. >> but i'd like. >> to talk. >> some more. >> so are you a hard no. >> no. >> i'm going to listen. >> i haven't talked to the president yet this week, but i'm sure i. >> will hear. no, no. why is that? >> because i don't. >> see what changes between now and september. we could have had. a good. >> a good bill. >> that had. >> just a few. changes that. >> actually made a difference. >> things that. were that americans agree. >> on.

>> and republicans. >> would have gotten behind 100%. >> you would have had mass, you would have had. >> several other. >> members that. >> right. >> now are not happy with a bill that should. >> be republican owned. >> now, the challenge for house republican leadership today is that house democrats have already argued that they are going to be united against this proposal. so that means johnson has to carry this vote on his own. if house republicans can get this out of their chamber. the challenge also rests in the united states senate, where there is expected to at least need to be eight democrats to vote for this proposal to avert a government shutdown. right now, it's really unclear where a lot of senate democrats are. many of them last night, noncommittal as we were asking them whether or not they were going to be supporting this proposal. sarah. >> we are glad that you're safe from the chairs that almost attacked you there. you kept it real. thank you so much, lauren fox. really appreciate your reporting from capitol hill this morning, kate. >> even the chairs are dangerous on. >> capitol hill.

>> it's really joining us right now on the topic that lauren was just talking about. let's get to it. top democrat on the senate finance committee is joining us now. senator ron wyden of oregon. senator, thank you for being here and dealing with our nonsense. i read you quoted as saying about the cr shutdowns are a bad idea. i'm not a shutdown guy. does that mean that you will be voting in support of this? >> well, here's where we are, kate. >> you know. >> the house republicans. >> are throwing. in with elon and. >> his. >> saboteurs, and. >> i just don't see. >> any advantage to the country by going. >> along with that. >> i think it makes. >> much more sense. >> to come up with a short term. >> you know. >> approach that's fair. >> that's balanced, and that's my preferred route. >> that might be your preference, but given the options that you might be faced, are you a yes. if it's just the the year long extension and that's it. >> let's see what happens today. you know this. >> is going to be a. >> long day. >> it's clear that the

republicans have some questions about their votes. i've already. >> made it clear that particularly elon's influence on this package is very troubling to me, as the ranking democrat. and the reality is, and you all have had it on, on the show already, we had more bad. news for working families this morning and tomorrow. aluminum and steel are supposed to be 25% tariffs. that means the price of cars is going to go up. so we're going to be watching through the day what it's going to take to make sure that working families and seniors don't get hammered some more. >> a little bit more on the cr patty murray, obviously an important democrat when it comes to all of this, said this speaker johnson has rolled out a slush fund continuing resolution that would give donald trump and elon musk more power over federal spending, more power to pick winners and losers, which threatens families in blue and red states alike. even if it's what we're looking at and a shorter extension. do you think you could sign on if that's what this does?

>> well, i think senator murray is making my point. she, too, wants something that's short term, that's fair, and is not another gift to elon musk. >> so let's see what happens today. let's talk about elon musk because he did an he did a new interview and was talking about entitlements, basically saying this is it's a new it's his next target saying that when it comes to entitlements quote, that's the big one to eliminate. says he's targeting around $700 billion there. i just asked a republican congressman how he feels about, quote, unquote, you know, that being the big one to eliminate in terms of entitlements, he said this. let me play this. >> i think when he talks about elimination, i think we're talking about eliminating the waste, abuse and fraud. and it is true that the medicare, medicaid and social security make up about 75% of our budget. it's mandatory spending. we've got to find the savings there.

>> senator, what do you think of that? >> what i think is elon musk is on his way to privatizing social security. if you combine what's going on now in terms of the cutbacks and, you know, taking the role of government smaller and smaller and probably going to private contractors, that's what's at stake. he's already been talking about comparing social security to a ponzi scheme. i think his remarks in the last week or so are a prelude to privatization. >> let's see. let's see if he can clarify. and if eliminate doesn't mean eliminate means eliminate waste. maybe that needs to be asked. u.s. stocks, you talked about it. u.s. stocks tanked yesterday. worst day of the year. turning south is wall street journal put it. wall street fears trump will wreck the soft landing. senator. republicans are giving him space to run on this, giving him some room to run, saying that a lot of this reaction is a lingering impact from president biden. let

me play what a republican told me yesterday. >> you can't disregard the damage that the biden administration did to our economy with their regulations, with their inflationary spending, with the the the interest rates that have skyrocketed because of his policies. you can't you can't negate that. >> it is just six weeks into president trump's second term. do you think it is too early for trump to own this economy? >> well, the trade chaos that we've seen in the last few weeks was not caused by joe biden. this trade chaos, in my view, is like a big anchor around the american economy. and if it continues literally every 24 or 48 hours, i think some working families are going to get thrown deep into the water. >> what is it? the is it the threat? than pulling back? is it then putting it on? is it the

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right, first to you. look, we are looking at aluminum and steel supposed to get hit with trump's 25% tariff tomorrow. that means the price of housing and cars could spike. why is this a good idea, matt? for americans. >> well, look, you got to remember that ultimately, donald trump. >> ran on also protecting. >> american businesses and actually protecting the u.s. steel manufacturers and fabricators that are actually here. >> in the united. >> states. for years, they've had to compete unfairly against chinese. >> imports and even some. canadian imports. >> where you had. huge subsidization, especially from the chinese. and candidly, the quality wasn't as good very often because. of partially that. and so this is a key commitment. >> donald trump ran on. >> he's been talking about. >> now not. >> just in his public life, but even in his private life. >> if you. >> go back to the 80s, he was. >> talking about. >> protecting the u.s. steel industry at that time. he talked about it vis a vis japan. and so this is just keeping to a commitment that he had made

quite some time ago. >> there's another commitment, though, he made, which was he was going to change prices on day one, that he was going to help the economy. and people are still suffering with that. that has not happened. is he concentrating on the wrong things, do you think, matt? >> i don't i mean, look he a few things. one, the stock market today is still higher than most of what it was last year. so yes, we saw what happened yesterday. but that's what happens in the stock market. we see that go up and down a little bit. but you actually had a really strong jobs report come out on friday, 170,000 or so new jobs at the same time, you're seeing a reduction in government jobs, which is actually a sign of a shifting an economy that's becoming more healthy at the end of the day, which is a commitment that president trump made. and so, you know, i think it's going to take a little time for some of these policies to play out. certainly, it's a course correction from the way d.c. traditionally works where it's just been ever growing and more taxpayer money and more subsidies going out. and so,

look, they're going to have the private sector is going to have to get used to not having a massive federal bureaucracy to lean on. but as we make that shift, you're going to see really strong economic growth. >> the jobs report was actually lower than expected, but it didn't tumble as much. but, christine, i do want to talk to you about this. the republicans are blaming the democrats, the ones that we have come on this show have blamed the democrats for the economy's woes. they're still blaming biden. are democrats worried that this messaging will work with the american people? >> well, i. >> think what democrats are worried about is the impact of trump policies on americans. we saw the stock market not just do a course correction yesterday, but a tumble. we've not seen any relent in prices of goods, services, eggs that really is hitting americans. and the fear is it's just going to get worse. you know, and on one hand, the republicans can't blame the democrats and then take credit for what they're

putting out as a good jobs report. either this is their economy or it is not. and i think we've seen for years donald trump point to wall street as a key indicator of a good or bad economy. he can't step away from that outlook. he owns that outlook. >> he now says he doesn't pay attention to wall street, which believe it. if you want to. >> check his tweets. >> yeah, i do want to ask you, though, what democrats can do. they do not have the house. they do not have the senate. they do not have the numbers. so going forward, what is it that they can do to try and impact some of these things that they do not like, that president trump has put forth? >> well, although we don't control anything at the moment, the margins are still in the house and the senate are close. and it is very hard for a leader of any party to always get all of their members in line. so we do have some power. we are not without power, but the greatest power we have is to work with americans. if you've seen the

very organic turnout at these town hall meetings, republicans are having, people are mad about the economy. people are mad about this slash and burn attempt by elon musk to just gut the federal workforce in places that really are important, like the veterans administration, like social security, gut the promises that we made. americans. i think if we work more closely and organize with rank and file americans, we'll have a lot more power. we're seeing republicans run out of those meetings and actually move to virtual meetings, because they're afraid to be in the room with americans. >> matt, i do want to ask you about something christine said, which is about the cr, about whether or not that can be passed just by republicans repeatedly. and we've seen donald trump go after thomas massie, who is saying, i absolutely am not going to vote for this. it's not happening. is this a good policy? it has worked for him in in the past. is it good for the president to go after republicans by saying

we're going to run something else against you if you do not do what i say? and will this work over time? >> well, it may or may not. and that will kind of bear itself out. i mean, no one's surprised that thomas massie is going to oppose this. he opposes everything. i think the real question is, are the democrats, even though they're in the minority, going to be responsible here and actually try to keep the government open, or are they going to kind of stamp their feet and, you know, say, if we don't get our way, we're going to go home? i mean, look at what's in this continuing resolution. it actually increases has one of the largest increases of pay for junior officers in the military. it fully funds veteran benefits to push back against what christine was just saying right now, this actually fully funds veterans benefits or democrats now going to vote against that in the coming days while also trying to shut down the government. it does increases funding for tsa and for for important security measures as well that are necessary in order to and for air traffic controllers as well. so, you know, i think we've actually seen a responsible approach by the republican majority and the

trump administration on this. the question is, are the democrats going to try to play politics with the u.s. economy right now? and whether they're going to keep the government open? the democrats. >> if they do. >> explains why their approval rating right now is around 20%. >> yeah. the democrats response to that is, how dare you put this on us. you have control of both houses. we will have to wait and see how the american public responds. depending on which way things go, as this bill, they're going to be a vote today. so we will see if the house can push it through. and then what happens with the senate? christine quinn matt mowers, thank you both so much. we really appreciate you coming on. all right. ahead, investigators released a new image of a u.s. college student that has been missing in the dominican republic. what clues that could hold about her disappearance. police also talking to the last person to have seen her there on the beach. >> after cooking a delicious knorr chicken cheddar broccoli recipe, you will want to close your delivery apps because nothing beats a perfect combo of

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detention of khalil and that he is leaning on a portion of u.s. law known as the national. the nationality, the immigration and nationality act of 1952. and i want to just tell you a little bit about what it says, because it talks about the secretary having very broad authority to determine that if there is serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the u.s. as a result of a person's actions, that person can be deemed deportable. what we do not know yet is what crime they are going to charge khalil with. so far, we know that they have said the administration and trump has posted on social media about how this is because of his involvement in columbia's protests last year against the israel-hamas war. we have we have seen marco referred to hamas affiliated activity by khalil. but the question is, are they going to be able to prove

this in court before that deportation proceeding can continue? this is so far a small win for the attorneys of khalil. so far, the judge has said that they have to stop this now until both parties can come to court. and i did hear from the attorneys last night. amy greer, who has been representing khalil, said that she had finally spoken to him. he's been moved to a detention center in louisiana. he's in good spirits. and she said in part that the remarks by government officials, including the president on social media, only confirmed the purpose and illegality of mahmoud's detention. he was chosen as an example to stifle entirely lawful dissent in violation of the first amendment. so that is what's central to this entire story, whether or not the government is going to try and argue that khalil's protest is grounds for deportation. now, green card holders like khalil are also

protected by the first amendment, which protects all of us and gives us the right to protest the freedom of assembly, the freedom of speech. so it's going to be a very interesting test for this administration. the question here is, are they going to try and do this to other students? we saw the president said yesterday that this was, quote, the first of many more arrests to come. and that's certainly got student activists as well as first amendment and free speech activists, very concerned. >> yeah, very concerned, as well as the fact that the president and republicans have been always talking about their first amendment rights as well. so we will see how this sort of plays out in court. the judge going to be a very important player in all of this when it comes to what happens to mahmoud khalil. thank you so much. i really appreciate it, gloria, for staying on this story. over to you, kate. >> so a new image was just released now showing the missing american college student in the dominican republic. from the day she disappeared. it comes from surveillance video, believed to

be really the last moments showing sudiksha konanki. the 20 year old has not been seen since the early morning hours of thursday. and since then, a young man who was with her has been interviewed by police, reportedly offering differing accounts of what exactly he saw that early morning. cnn's jessica haseman is in punta cana for us. joining us right now. and, jessica, what is the latest that you're learning? >> hi, kate. that's right. this is this tuesday marks five days since the 20 year old university student sudiksha konanki was last seen here in punta cana. that screenshot that you mentioned is believed to be the last known video of the missing university of pittsburgh student with a group of friends. at around 416 in the morning before she disappeared last thursday while on spring break at the rio republica hotel here in punta cana. in this image, konanki is seen with three other women and two young men headed to the beach at the hotel. according to

our source, who is close to the investigation this monday, the fbi has joined the investigation. according to a press release by authorities, a special commission has been formed with dominican authorities to further investigate the case. in addition, authorities have announced that they will be re-interviewing people connected to the disappearance of the young woman. that includes that young man that you mentioned that is believed to be the last person to have seen konanki at the beach in the early hours of thursday morning. according to our source, the young man like you mentioned had been interviewed or has been interviewed by authorities at least three times. according to our source, about what happened at the beach. they went into the water, he says. they got caught up in a wave and he came out feeling ill, threw up and later fell asleep. and that's the last time he says he saw konanki. authorities had said

that there were conflicting declarations by this young man about that last moment when he saw konanki, the dominican president, luis abinader, said in a press conference this morning last monday that it is, in fact believed that the young woman had been caught up by a wave. and that's why there is such a wide operation focused on the beach. kate. >> and this investigation now continues. jessica, thank you very much for the latest from punta cana for us. still ahead for us, elon musk says a large scale cyber attack took took his social media platform x down for quite some time for a bit. but what tech experts are now saying, though, about that hit. >> welcome back. >> have i got news for you? news saturday on cnn. >> you know that thing your family does? yeah, that. >> thing.

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couldn't access x either on app or desktop. we were seeing tens of thousands of reports on downdetector as well. this even affected the nfl free agency day because often so the teams and reporters, they use x to understand the player movement. so this actually had ripple effects beyond just x. but elon musk then eventually posted that. he said we get attacked every day. but this was done with a lot of resources. he called it either a large coordinated group and or a country was involved. and then we heard that fox business interview where he mentioned that the ip addresses came from ukraine. i do want to caution everybody, though. it is very easy to spoof an ip address, which is a location. it's like an address of where you come from, where your computer is coming from. hackers for hire will even advertise spoofing ip addresses. if you want to hire them to hack something, you'll be like, oh, we can make it look like it's coming from this country or another. now, experts we have talked to in cybersecurity say a it's both a little bit too early to pin blame on somebody or some country. but they do say that this does have the hallmarks of what's called a distributed

denial of service attacks. this is essentially where hackers overwhelm a system. imagine a group of people blocking the entrance to a store. you can't get into that store because they're just standing there. that's essentially what a ddos attack is. but it's it's still unclear what's happening here. but it is interesting to see elon musk so quickly pin the blame on a certain country when he himself says, you know, we don't exactly know what happened. and actually, larry kudlow in that interview even said to him, well, that's your speculation, right? >> which is problematic because he has been attacking ukraine in other ways as well. so we will have to wait and see what actually happened. >> and who. >> we believe. >> right, to find out the truth. thank you so much. appreciate it. thank you for joining us. this is cnn news central. we're out of here. >> we're out. >> by. >> after challenges. you bounce back. >> stronger now. >> damaged hair can two. new dove intensive. >> repair with bio. >> protein care. >> plus amino. >> serum refills.

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