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wednesdays. >> happening now. breaking news in the red. markets this morning. down again. all the gains since the beginning of the year wiped out. a new warning from the white house. just in. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. pamela brown is off today. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in the situation room. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> and we begin with the breaking news. wall street right now grappling with the fallout from its worst day of the year. the doight now 229 points. you can see it right there. there's a lot of uncertainty over president trump's trade war sent stocks plunging monday, triggering further fears today of a recession. and this morning, president trump's agriculture secretary seemingly

acknowledging what investors already fear that things could get worse before they get better. listen the uncertainty is real, and the farmers and ranchers are concerned, and he's been very clear. >> it's going to be a little bit bumpy for a, you know, maybe a few weeks or a few months. but at the end, his vision and again, what we're effectuating is that our american farmers and ranchers, but truly, all americans will be moving into an era of greater prosperity. we call it the golden age here at the white house than ever before. >> all right, let's go live right now to cnn business and politics correspondent vanessa yurkevich, who's joining us from new york. vanessa, i understand goldman sachs now says there's a 1 in 5 chance of a recession. >> yeah, that's right wolf. but markets this morning opening mix may be taking a little bit of a fresh breath of air after all of this turmoil on wall street yesterday. the markets having their worst day of 2025. and you can see the picture right there. we know that the president is

holding a business roundtable a little bit later this evening. and we know that ceos have been very influential in getting the president to change some of his tariff policies. but as you mentioned, goldman sachs revising their recession forecast up to 20% from 15%. we also heard from former treasury secretary larry summers, who put those odds closer to 50%. however, wolf, we are not in recessionary territory just yet. we also heard from jerome powell, who said the fed chair, who said that the economy is in a good place right now, but we are seeing some warnings from major retailers just this morning, delta slashed their earnings forecast by about half. and kohl's saying that it's going to be a turbulent 2025. you can see those stock prices. they're down on that news. but we are waiting to hear from the president today. we did not hear from him yesterday. waiting to hear from the president today about any more news around tariffs or the economy. this

will be critical as wall street continues to digest this news coming off of their worst day of 2025. wolf. >> we'll keep monitoring all these developments vanessa yurkevich in new york. thank you very much. there's more breaking news we're following at any moment. the house speaker, mike johnson, will answer questions from reporters as he fights to get his spending bill through. setting up a potential cliffhanger vote as early as today to fund the government through september. and the clock is ticking. without a funding bill, the government will shut down in less than four days, and the ramifications for the american people would be enormous. let's go live to our chief congressional correspondent, manu raju. he's up on capitol hill. first of all, manu, what are you hearing from lawmakers? critically important this morning. >> yeah, the full court press is on. and when republican members who are trying to muscle this through the house and the narrowest of majorities, we

expect essentially unified democratic opposition, which means that the speaker of the house, assuming all members are present and voting, can only afford to lose one republican vote. and already several are either raising concerns or say they are opposed, including one congressman, thomas massie, who donald trump last night threatened to endorse a primary challenger against him if he votes no. but massie has some choice words for his party. when i asked him about this last night. >> i guess deficits only matter when we're in the minority. >> you're no, no. why is that? because i don't see what changes between now and september. we could have had a good a good bill that had just a few changes that actually made a difference. >> so you would no. on the cr. >> currently, i like the fact that it has less spending, but i hate the fact that they push it over to the war pimps at the

pentagon. >> you obviously. >> usually opposed to. >> what's different for one. >> yeah. what's different here? >> in my analysis of it, i'm, i'm looking at it and i think if we're going to impose or succeed in getting the the trump mandate, this is kind of what you're going to have to do. >> and that's been the pitch to get behind this plan, because donald trump is asking them to do that. that's the message that the vice president himself delivered to house republicans this morning. but the question here, wolf, too, is what will democrats do if this does pass the united states house this afternoon because they have the power in the united states senate to block this measure. but several of them are still undecided about whether to support it. they're concerned about the prospects of a shutdown, even though they are deeply concerned and objecting to the spending cuts to domestic programs that are included in this extension of government funding. so that is going to be a big question for democrats how they deal with this. if this does pass the house and they have the power to filibuster this in the senate.

>> and momentarily, we're going to be hearing from the house speaker mike johnson, right. >> any minute, wolf, and we do expect him to really express some confidence that they can flip those members, those republican members, wolf, who are saying that they're not sure they're undecided yet, but they're going to put the pressure on them and expect donald trump to call those members as well, wolf. >> all right. we'll see what what unfolds. manu, thank you very, very much. there's more breaking news right now. the vice president, vice president vance is up on capitol hill meeting with house republicans as they scramble to lock down votes just ahead of today's expected crucial vote. let's go live now to our white house reporter, alayna treene. elena, you have some new reporting. i understand from inside that meeting. what have you learned? >> that's right. and the meeting actually just wrapped up shortly ago. wolf and i spoke with a source who was in the room, and they said that the vice president was very clear in telling members that if the government shuts down on friday, if they do not pass this bill, the short term funding bill that republicans will be the ones to

be blamed and that that is a departure, really, from what we've heard from president donald trump, who has been telling and really trying to outwardly project that if there is a shutdown, that democrats would be to blame. but look, i'm also told that vance warned that if they don't pass this bill, that they risk losing momentum not only on the president's overall agenda, but the source in the room specifically said he pointed out border security and political momentum. now, this comes as we know that the white house chief of staff, susie wiles, but also president donald trump himself, has been making calls directly to members really trying to strong arm them into falling in line behind this. we also saw the president lash out against republican thomas massie of kentucky, someone who has said that he is going to vote against the short term bill, arguing that he will be the one to lead the charge against primarying massie for saying no. so i think that just shows you really where the president and he is very frustrated with people who are coming out against this. they view this as being crucial to getting his agenda through and

are working very hard here at the white house to try and convince members to get on board. >> we're watching the dow jones at the same time. elon you can see in the bottom right hand corner of the screen, it's down 324 points at least right now. we'll watch those numbers unfold. lots at stake right now. alayna treene at the white house for us. thank you. also new this morning. russia is accusing ukraine of launching a massive drone strike against targets. against targets in moscow. watch this. more than 300 people in total. 300 targets, i should say 300 targets were selected by those drones. two people were reported killed. and it happened just as critical meetings got underway in saudi arabia. a u.s. delegation led by the secretary of state marco rubio meeting right now with senior leaders from ukraine. at stake is a potential peace agreement to try to end this devastating war with russia. let's go live right now to our chief national security

correspondent, alex marquardt. he's joining us from jeddah in saudi arabia. alex, the u.s. national security adviser, mike waltz. he's also with you guys in jeddah. he said the talks are getting they're, quote, getting there. could we see substantial progress out of these critically important meetings? >> that is certainly the hope, wolf. these are not only intense but but critical talks now going on for some five hours. after a quick break. they're back at the table. we heard from the from president zelenskyy's chief of staff, andriy yermak, saying that this is a work in progress and as you say from mr. waltz, the line we are getting there, which which does give us some indication that they are getting what they hope for. we did hear from secretary rubio just yesterday saying that they were in listening mode. they wanted to hear from the ukrainian side what concessions the ukrainians might be able to offer in order to get to a peace deal, because there has been some doubt from the american side that the ukrainians actually wanted to

work towards a peace with russia. i spoke with yermak, along with other reporters. we asked him what concessions they might have in mind. he did not specify, but he said that the key here is to get this process started and to have what he called deep and constructive conversations with the american side. you can imagine, wolf, they will certainly be raising the military and intelligence sharing assistance that the u.s. has put on pause, that this meeting could essentially get unsuspended, if you will. security guarantees is something that is on the table as well as a partial ceasefire deal that ukraine has proposed. of course, far from certain. if that is something that russia, which has shown no indication of willing to give concessions, whether they would agree to that as well, wolf. >> alex marquardt on the scene for us in jeddah, saudi arabia, thank you very, very much. we're getting new details right now into one of the trump administration's biggest legal battles. after a federal judge ordered the trump administration to pay money owed to usaid

contractors, blocking their refusal to spend the congressionally approved funds. cnn crime and justice correspondent katelyn polantz is here with me in the situation room. walk us through this ruling, caitlin. what does it say? >> well, wolf, this is the case that went up to the supreme court and back. it could go there again, but right now it's a trial level judge in washington, d.c., saying, hey, there were foreign aid contractors, nonprofits. they did the work up through mid-february. you've got to pay them for the work they've invoiced. so he told the federal government, this the amount that's owed as of friday, according to the court record, was about $670 million to these foreign aid implementing groups. they're going to be giving the judge an update by friday on how the payment is going. but the justice department, representing the trump administration, has said this is a really complicated process to pay this money that we stopped paying out. and the contractors are saying, you guys are creating

bureaucracy. an important point in the trump administration, as they keep saying they are trying not to create more bureaucracy. but the judge here, he had a lot of strong words for the trump administration, said that the way they turned off the money to this contractors had dire humanitarian consequences, could have really devastated businesses and programs, continues to devastate them as they don't have this money. another important point the judge made. it looks like to him, donald trump was overstepping the boundaries of the executive branch and doing something that congress should have been doing, the judge wrote. the executive not only claims his constitutional authority to determine how to spend appropriated funds, but usurps congress's exclusive authority to dictate whether the funds should be spent in the first place. wolf, the translation there is congress appropriated this money. the judge isn't going to micromanage it. but this may be a big case about separation of powers. and it is very, very likely to have.

>> appeals and senate not only appropriated, but authorized this foreign aid money for usaid projects around the world. and the president of the united states signed the legislation into law. the only way to change that, according to this ruling, is if for congress to go ahead and change the change, the appropriation and the authorization, and for the president to then sign that into law, is that right? >> yes, exactly. so here the judge can't do much more at this point just because of how things are set. in this case, all he's done is said the federal government has to pay the money. but wolf, there is a situation here where this question of can trump just change what's being paid? if congress appropriated it, that is something that's likely to be on appeal. >> it's the law. it's signed into law by the president of the united states. katelyn polantz, thank you very, very much. still ahead, equating nutrition and exercise to the measles risks. the new claims this morning from health and human services

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>> and. >> there's more breaking news we're following right now. president trump says he is now doubling the tariffs on canadian aluminum and steel. let's go live to our white house reporter, alayna treene for us right now. elena, tell us what you're learning. >> well, there's actually a lot in this post. wolf, i have it out here in front of me. i'm just going to read for you some of what he said. he said that this is in retaliation to ontario's premier placing a 25% tariff on electricity. he said because of that, he is going to. starting tomorrow, place an additional 25% tariff on all steel and aluminum coming into the u.s. from canada. again, he said that will go into effect tomorrow, march 12th, tomorrow

morning. he also called on canada to quote, immediately drop their anti american farmer tariff of 250% to 390% on various u.s. dairy products. he also said that he would be shortly declaring a national emergency on electricity within the area. the threatened area is what he called it. and then again, he also pointed out, as i mentioned, this is a lot of news in here. he again pointed out that if other tariffs that he decides are not correct or are not reasonable tariffs that canada has placed on the united states, then he will massively increase the amount of tariffs placed on vehicles, automakers and different vehicles coming in to the united states from canada as well. so really here, wolf, just to break this down, i mean, we are seeing him dramatically ramp up that rhetoric and threats against canada in this, this for tat kind of tariff war that we've really seen take place. and i think the context as well, just to be very clear, is this comes as we've now seen the market see the biggest, most

significant drop of the year. we saw that happen yesterday. it's continuing to be low today. and there's a lot of uncertainty right now, not only with the global markets but of course with trading partners. all of this, you know, coming as we're expected to hear from the president tonight. but this i think is going to only add to that uncertainty and comes as we've really seen this kind of stop and go tariff policy that the president has been using so far. >> all right. stand by. the speaker of the house, mike johnson, has started speaking on critically important issues. i want to listen in. >> it was a shameful display by the democrats. they are flailing. as is noted. they have no leader, no vision, no no plan, no platform they can run on because that was repudiated in the election and they're in a panic mode right now. and so you see them lashing out. you see increasing profanity. there are many stories, many of you have written about this new track. they've taken the new strategy where they just scream and shout and and curse at everyone. i don't think that's going to be

very productive either. and you also see the contrast going on this morning. they either have an issue with reading comprehension, or they are attempting to run. one of the most shameful misinformation campaigns that we've ever seen in our in our lives. we we filed that the cr, the continuing resolution on saturday and as was noted, they had already come out panning the bill that literally had not yet been seen. they they they said, quote, this is the house democrat leadership team's statement on friday. remember, the bill was, was was filed on saturday afternoon. on friday they said, quote, republicans have decided to introduce a partisan continuing resolution that threatens to cut funding for health care, nutritional assistance and veterans benefits through the end of the year. every single word of that is a lie. every single one. they just made it up. they didn't read the bill. it's nonsense. people are not buying this. and you see the contrast between one party which is leading, moving the ball forward for the american people and the other. that is just screaming. then the democrats

start parroting this talking point. in interviews all weekend on cnn, they said, quote, it's so harmful to the american people. you know, cutting medicaid, cutting medicare, threatening social security, cutting veteran benefits. it's all a lie. you can all read the bills 99 pages this clean cr contains no poison pill riders, no no policy riders there at all. no cuts to medicare, medicaid or social security. zero. no cuts to veterans benefits zero. in fact, as was noted, we plus up the accounts for veterans. and respectfully, i'm just going to say this to every reporter in the room that if you're allowing democrats to make these intentionally false, scurrilous claims without pushback, then you're aiding and abetting the spreading of this misinformation. i would just ask you to call them on it. the american people deserve that. they deserve that clarity from our press corps. make them point it out to you. they can't, of course. and now, after weeks of trotting federal workers up to capitol hill and on to cable news shows to protest president

trump's efforts to make the government more efficient, now they're planning to vote down this simple bill. they are going to try to shut the government down. every house democrat will participate in this. it looks like that would be a shame if it's true. i hope some of them will have a moment of clarity themselves and do the right thing, but it looks like they're going to try to shut down the government. it's a striking new posture for democrats, who have always said they've just been apoplectic about the prospect of government shutdowns. i put a video out about an hour ago on social media. i encourage you to go see that this is they have, in their own words. you don't need to trust us on this. but katherine clark, here's one little zinger from her quote. not only is it irresponsible and purposefully misleading, but it's also a dangerous precedent to be threatening a shutdown, unquote. now, remember, this is this is in last year, years past, pramila jayapal, quote, the tragedy here is all the civilian employees. it's the employees who are going to suffer, unquote, aoc quote, it is not normal to hold 100,000 workers paychecks hostage. it is

not normal to shut down the government when we don't get what we want, unquote. i don't think i've ever agreed with her before. she's exactly right. jerry nadler said, quote, shutdown is really an extremist policy designed to appeal to an extremist base and hold the whole country hostage. yeah, we agree. so they and all their colleagues need to do the right thing. democrats have been insisting they're fighting for federal workers. you're about to see again on vivid display. very clear the contrast. you will see one team that is working to fund the government and make sure we do the responsible thing. and you're going to see another opposing the cr because they've now exposed the truth. they're not for federal workers. they're not for anyone. all the people they've said in the past are going to be harmed would be by their votes. they're using federal employees as props. they're using medicaid benefits and social security checks as cudgels in this thing. the threat of a government shutdown, they're using it as some sort of attempt to wrestle power away from the president of the united states, who overwhelmingly won the popular vote. the electoral college in every single swing state. here's the bottom line

if congressional democrats refuse to support this clean cr cr. they will be responsible for every troop who misses a paycheck. for every flight delay from reduced staffing at tsa, for every negative consequence that comes from shutting down the government. i understand they have an important retreat this week. boy, i'd love to be a fly on the wall at that party. comes at a critical time since they don't have a leader or a message or a platform. and i'm just going to say this if our democrat colleagues want to increase their 21% approval rating with the american public, they ought to start by doing the right thing and keeping the government open. i think that would be a great first step. so i'll take questions. chad. >> good morning. you continually criticize the democrats here. doesn't that imply that you don't have the votes on your side, because you wouldn't need democratic assistance to keep the government open? >> no, we'll have the votes. we're going to pass the cr. we can do it on our own. but what i'm saying is democrats ought to do the responsible thing, follow their own advice. in

every previous scenario and keep the government open. it's their choice. i wish it could be a a unanimous vote in the house chamber today. that would be a great thing for america. but they're not going to do it, chad, because they're on this this lost, you know, they're wandering in the wilderness and they're seeing this guy at the same time. and you're going to see that today. they're going to vote no, and they're going to come out and try to pan it, and they're going to lie about it. and we're calling on you guys to to call them to account, make them tell you the truth about the bill. they didn't read it before. they said all that nonsense. so ask them that. ask them how they. yeah. manu. >> the president. >> went after one of your own colleagues yesterday. thomas massie, who does plan to vote against this? he says he should be primary. do you agree with the president? should thomas massie be primary for his vote against this? >> look, i'm in the incumbent protection program here. that's what i do. speaker of the house. and you know me and my style and my you know, the way i do this job, i don't. i bless those who persecute me. right? so thomas and i have had disagreements,

but i consider thomas massie a friend. he's a thoughtful guy. he's. i guess he'll tell you he's doing what he thinks is right on this. i just vehemently disagree with his position, but i'll leave it at that. >> mr. speaker, you in the past did not vote for crs when you were a rank and file member. you have said in the past that you were done with short term crs. by my count, my math might be a little off. this will be the fifth continuing resolution that you're presiding over as speaker of the house. yeah. what do you say to your conservative colleagues who have heard you in the past, promise that you were going to start to go through a regular appropriations process, but yet again, find themselves in a position where they have to take a difficult vote on a cr. >> yeah, it's a great question. i'll rewind and replay the chairman of the house freedom caucus here, doctor andy harris, who said it so well, this is a different cr than anything we've seen in our careers in congress. i've been here eight years. he's been here a bit longer. it normally is something that's a patchwork to to give us more time to try to get to the appropriations process. this is totally different. a year long cr, which is the first that i

think we've had. i don't know that there is a precedent for an actual year long cr. it solves the problem because it freezes federal spending. it takes care of these immediate priorities that have been articulated here, and it allows us to to move forward with changing the size and scope of the federal government. there is a seismic shift going on in washington right now. this is a different moment than we have ever been in the doge work is finding the massive amounts of fraud, waste and abuse. we have a white house that is actually dedicated to getting us back on to a fiscally responsible track. we're going to scale down the size of the bureaucracy and the agencies, which has become the fourth branch of government. none of that was was present or true before. when i became speaker, i inherited a real mess. we had joe biden in the white house. we had divided government, and it was a very difficult thing for us to navigate through. i didn't get to do anything i wanted or thought was really important for the country. i did what we had to do, what was necessary, what we could get 218 votes for. this is a totally

different scenario. by doing the cr this time, it actually is the responsible play and the conservative play, because we are conserving the resources of the american people. and this is this is something that all of us have wanted to do our whole careers, and we now have the opportunity to. >> do it last year. sir, will you support a cr? >> well, yeah, this is what i expect is that this white house is going to actually do its job. what a concept this white house is going to send us a budget that that has this hasn't been done in a while. this white house is going to send us a budget that's going to request funding for a smaller, leaner, more efficient, effective, accountable federal government. that is a new paradigm for us, and we're excited about that. that's what we'll be working on as soon as we get fy 26 off the table fy 25, we turn to fy 26. and that's when we have all the cuts that and the savings that will be actualized at that point. there's a there's a process as i've explained in here, you have to qualify those savings. you've got to quantify them and then you codify them. well, the codification process comes for fy 26. you're going to

see the administration and the congress working in tandem to provide and present a better government for the people. and that is something many of us ran for congress to do. that day is now upon us, and we're excited about it. >> mr. speaker, the stock market plunged yesterday. it's going down again today. part of the reason is because of president trump's policies on tariffs, including the ones that were just introduced this morning. can you comment here? does trump need to rethink what he is doing given the chaos that we're seeing in the stock market? >> this this is how i feel about it. many of us feel about it. the president has already proven what he can do on the economy. this is not theoretical. look at the first term of the trump administration prior to covid. we've talked about this many times in here, times in here, after the first two years of the trump administration, we had the greatest economy in the history of the world, not just the u.s. go check it. we had every demographic was doing better. all boats were rising. we had a thriving u.s. economy. we were booming. and that's because of the policies and the strategy that president trump led and

delivered. we cut taxes, we cut regulations. we let people keep more money in their pocket. and we made america the first priority. that is what he is doing again. now he's got to he's got to reshape and shape things because it's in a real mess. the last four years was a disaster in economic policy. in every other measurement of public policy. so what president trump is doing, i think of it sort of like a like like when you're playing billiards and you're playing pool, right? you go on the table and the balls are racked, right? and you hit it as hard as you can. this is many people's strategy in the game. you hit it as hard as you can to break up the balls on the table and send them spread. then you play the strategy of sinking them in the holes, right? that's what we're doing right now. it is a shakeup. and he said there's going to be a shakeup right now. but this is what's required in my mind to start the process of repairing and restoring the american economy. i believe that the strategy is going to work. i believe that, you know, sometimes when when you shake up that it's a it's a violent thing on the table, right in the game metaphor, but it always works out well in the end. and i

think you've got to give him time. he's been in office for just over, what, 50 days? this is the 51st day in office. give the president a chance to to have these policies play out. that's where we are on it. yes, sir. yeah. >> in your estimation, what crime did mahmoud khalil commit to warrant his arrest, detention and the potential revocation of his green card? >> let me tell you something. i went face down the angry mob at columbia at the height of that stuff. when? when the pro-palestinian pro-hamas protesters were there. i'm telling you, this is my own observation, not something i read in a newspaper. it was dangerous. i met with jewish students before we went to campus, who were hauled away off campus because they were instructed by the administration not to come to class, which they paid for for fear of their physical safety. the administrators there refused to take control of that campus. they refused to allow the pd to come, the police department to come in and take control. and it turned into a chaos. the president has since been removed and now they got the same problem again. columbia and other universities, they have to keep control of campus. the first responsibility of an

administration is ensuring the safety of the students who are paying tuition to be there, for crying out loud, this madness has to stop. we have to get control of it. this guy apparently was a mastermind of those very things. when the gnashing of teeth and the ripping of clothes and the people screaming at me, wanting to rip me limb from limb because i was there talking about moral clarity and how there's a right and a wrong. they were doing that. they disrupted the campus. they were threatening physical violence to their fellow students. if you're on a student visa, i'm going to say this clearly. if you are on a student visa and you're in america and you're an aspiring young terrorist who wants to prey upon your jewish classmates, you're going home. we're going to arrest your tail, and we're going to send you home where you belong. and that this is just getting started. so, look, i, i appreciate free speech. i used to defend it in court, but this is far beyond the pale of that. when you are threatening your classmates and spewing anti-semitism and all this hatred, it's enough. and i think the american people understand that they're supporting it. and i'm glad we

have a president who's strong enough to lay down the law. thanks a lot. >> thank you, sheriff, all right, so there he is, the house speaker, mike johnson, clearly blaming democrats if in fact, there will be a government shutdown, when in fact the republicans have a majority. >> it's a small majority in the house of representatives. they could pass this continuing resolution to keep the government open, at least for the time being. i want to bring in our congressional reporter, lauren fox, who's watching all of this. he was very, very tough on the democrats. but the republicans, he's fearful that they're going to be at least a few republicans who will vote against this congressional, this this continuing resolution, what they call the cr that will shut down the government if that happens. but the republicans, they could do it by themselves. they only need a simple majority to go ahead and pass this cr yeah, i think that johnson's comments, though, wolf, speak to the challenge ahead in the next couple of hours for republican leaders.

>> they know that there are a number of republicans who are either leaning against voting for this spending bill or have already said that they are opposed. this is a moment in which president donald trump is going to have to make calls to lawmakers on capitol hill. obviously, the vice president was trying to make the case to house republicans earlier today, arguing that this was an essential step of making sure that republicans can pass the rest of trump's agenda. essentially, the argument being to clear the decks so that they can move on to some other important issues. but you're right, wolf, in the house of representatives, republicans have the ability and are likely if they're going to pass this bill at all, going to have to carry this legislation all on their own. we are hearing from democrats as well as their democratic leadership, that they are not going to be lifting a finger to help republicans later today when this vote comes to the floor. that means that speaker johnson and the president are going to have some work to do to convince some of those skeptical conservatives.

now, they have done a lot of work already, and there are a lot of conservatives who don't typically vote for these stopgap spending bills, who are saying that they are supportive, who are getting behind the president. but it's important to remember that even if they can get this out of the house of representatives, it goes to the senate. this is not a bill that has a filibuster proof majority, which means you do need a handful of democrats in that chamber. i was just in the senate talking to a number of those democrats. none of them committed to voting no, but none of them committed to voting yes. a lot of people want to see what happens in the house today, because some democrats are hoping that republicans can't carry this on their own. in that chamber. they go back to the drawing board. democrats maybe get more of a say in what is in this stopgap bill, wolf. >> and do we know when the house vote on this continuing resolution will actually take place? >> yeah, we expect that it's going to be later today, wolf, in the 4:00 hour, exactly what time obviously is always fluid and a good indication of whether or not they have the votes or not is whether that vote timing

starts to slide into the early evening. if they're still grappling to get the support that they need, that obviously can always be moved, wolf. >> and very quickly, lauren, if all the democrats vote against the continuing resolution, the cr, how many republicans can the speaker afford to lose if he wants to get this passed? did he predicted it would pass? >> yeah, wolf, a little bit of that is dependent on attendance today. but if everyone is attending, if every democrat is voting against this bill, he can afford to lose one. he's already lost thomas massie. you heard our colleague manu raju ask the speaker in this press conference because the president has threatened potentially to primary thomas massie or to at least support a primary challenge to thomas massie what the speaker thought of that. i thought it was really interesting. speaker johnson said. they disagree on this issue, but he is in the business of the incumbent protection program, signaling that he personally is not going to be going after massie, even though massie has already said he's voting against this bill.

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johnson has enough republican votes, do you plan to vote? first of all, in support of this spending bill, this cr, this continuing resolution? >> yeah. good morning, wolf, and thank you for having me. there is not a lawmaker up here that does that likes crs. all of us have voted against them. all of us have voted for them at different periods. but governing is messy. and what i appreciate about president trump is his willingness to listen to members of congress and work towards a solution. there were two things in particular that i was advocating for. you know, i spent 20 years in the military. i retired a navy master chief, one of those in this bill is the largest pay increase for junior enlisted service members, e1 through e5 in the history of our nation. it's long time we get our service members off food stamps. this bill is going to do that. another thing that i advocated for was increased funding for border security. and just when the administration is getting going, i think now is not the time to pull the rug from underneath the underneath

the administration. i was able to fly on air force two with the vice president to the border this past week and saw firsthand the vice president is very influential in in allowing people to understand what the administration is trying to do. for those reasons, i do plan to vote in favor of this cr and to keep the ball rolling. there's a lot more discussions that need to be had, but i think it's a positive direction that the administration is going in. >> there's a question about some of your republican colleagues who are planning on voting against it. for example, thomas massie and you heard president trump now threaten to go after him. this republican congressman, if he votes against this continuing resolution. are you at all are you hearing from your republican colleagues in the house that are concerned if they vote against the cr, the continuing resolution, the president will go after them and seek to primary them in the upcoming midterm elections? >> no, i think it's less of that. look, members were put members were elected to

represent their districts and a lot. and that's exactly what we do. in the same breath, president trump, in just a very short period of time, his policies are working and now is not the time to cut funding. now is the time to make sure that they have all the resources they need. now. congress should have an equal. we're an equal branch of government. we need to have a seat at the table. and i think it's a positive thing to have this dialog, to have this back and forth. but i also think it's important to the american people we need to deliver enough with the talk, enough with the blame game. we need to deliver for the american people, the american people. president trump is doing that. congress needs to come alongside and make sure it's constructive that we're having a dialog and making sure that we are indeed getting that agenda done. >> but is it appropriate, do you think, for president trump to threaten a republican congressman, thomas massie, with a primary if he votes against the cr? is that appropriate? >> hell yeah, it's appropriate. this is politics, wolf. you better have tough skin. you

better be ready for everything. you know, there's good days and bad days. there's not one member of congress up here that hasn't gone through the exact same thing. so that's a choice that that thomas has decided to make. a lot of us make those decisions. and you better believe that president trump is going to make sure that his voice is heard one way or another, which is perfectly fine. once again, this is politics. >> i want to get to some other sensitive issues while i have you, congressman, we have some breaking news involving another escalation in the trade war with our neighbors up north, specifically canada. the president announcing only a few moments ago that new steel and aluminum tariffs against canada will go into effect tomorrow. what's your reaction to this latest development? because, you know, the price is going to be paid by a lot of americans who need that steel and import for their homes, or for other projects that are going on. >> you know, tariffs are a delicate situation. and, you know, the traditional thought process is tariffs don't work. but yet, once again, president trump has defied the odds. and

he's bringing these people, these these countries that in many cases have taken advantage of us for a long time. he's bringing them to the negotiating table. now at the end of the day, i hope we get to yes, i hope all these, you know, we can we can solve things before some of these policies get implemented and hurt a lot of people. i'd also say to this, congress has a role to play reconciliation in reconciliation. there should be things in there that strengthen our economy. one of those is permanent tax cuts. i think this is something that you may see the market rebound with, if you will, in the coming months. so it's a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot of time to, to to play out still. but i think so far what president trump is doing is working. >> i want to shift gears quickly while i still have you. congressman, i know you're on a tight schedule. there could be some changes coming up to medicaid, the insurance program that cares for 72 million poor and disabled americans across the country. you led a letter to the house speaker, mike johnson,

voicing your concerns, and you wrote this, and i'll put it up on the screen. nearly 30% of medicaid enrollees are hispanic americans. and for many families across the country, medicaid is their only access to health care. close quote, nursing homes and hospitals, as you know, are already struggling in very small rural communities out there. how detrimental would these potential medicaid cuts be? >> oh, it would be. it would be astronomical. it would be terrible for the american people. one of the hats that i wear here in congress is i'm the chairman of the congressional hispanic conference. these are about a dozen hispanic house republicans. and one of the things that we've advocated for, yes, we want to cut the fraud. yes, we want to cut the waste, but we don't want to pull the rug underneath from the from the from underneath. hardworking american people. and this is where congress needs to work with the administration in a constructive way to accomplish both things. i think we can do that. i know we can do that. it's going to take time, energy

and effort. i'm certainly committed to it as well as a lot of other of my members. but my colleagues. but we have to protect medicaid. and once again, the hard working americans, they need to be protected, not bashed. but to medicare and social want security as well. is thaprogram americans are counting on pell, pell grants, the trio program, education, the list goes on and on. there's a lot of work to be done. this is where the details matter. and that reconciliation bill in the coming, coming weeks and months, that is the real battle. that is the real conversation that needs to be had. and i look forward to being part of that once again, having a constructive conversation with the administration to say, how do we cut the waste? but how do we protect hard working americans? we can do both, and we will. >> congressman tony gonzales of texas, thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you, wolf. >> and coming up, we'll have more reaction from the house speaker johnson's comments from

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involve cutting medicaid, cutting medicare. and and if we're going to just focus on this continuing resolution, let's talk about it, because i know you just talked to my other colleague from texas, and he was boasting about the increase in pay for certain service members, while not talking about the fact that those that have already served our country, our veterans, that they're going to lose so much of their care. we know that right now they're looking to cut close to 80,000 people from the veterans affairs. and then in addition to that, in this cr, all the money for, bills that we've passed before, specifically that extra money that we put in for the toxic burn pits, they want to take that out. so it should not be an either or when it comes to those that have served our country or those that are willing to serve our country. and right now they're pitting them against one another. we see as they've decided they're not going to do any more town halls. so i don't know if tony even knows what his constituents want, that they are consistently getting railed against because of the way that they're treating veterans. by making sure that these firings, they're not standing up for the people,

they're not standing up for the house. so, no, i'm not going to vote for the continuing resolution. the republicans control the house, the senate and the white house if they want to get their draconian stuff passed, it's going to hurt my constituents. they're going to do it by themselves. >> and what's very worrisome is that so many veterans who work in federal government agencies are now being fired for various reasons. as a. >> result, one third of our workforce for the federal government, they're veterans, veterans, and we want to make sure those veterans are protected by all means. >> i want to play a little clip of what we heard from the house speaker and get your reaction. so listen to this. >> they're planning to vote down this simple bill. they are going to try to shut the government down. every house democrat will participate in this. it looks like that would be a shame if it's true. i hope some of them will have a moment of clarity themselves and do the right thing, but it looks like they're going to try to shut down the government. it's a striking new posture for democrats who have always said they've just been apoplectic about the prospect of government shutdowns.

>> you want to react? >> yeah, i'm going to say that we don't want the government to shut down. and frankly, this president has single handedly not just been shutting the government down, but literally trying to dismantle it. and i haven't heard a word out of them. in addition to that, we know that we have been talking about impoundment, which is basically saying, hey, the power of the purse belongs to congress. well, guess what? our speaker doesn't act that way. he doesn't get out there and say, hey, mr. president, you can't do this. once we've appropriated dollars, then these dollars are supposed to be for this. and one of the things that they're not talking about in this continuing resolution is the fact that they are going to give even more latitude. this is basically going to be a slush fund for elon and donald trump. they are they are getting rid of the parameters around the spending. i think the comparison was that we have maybe 88 total pages of kind of whatever the parameters are for how the monies are to be spent. but the majority of the discretion goes to trump and elon. when we normally had, i think in our last one, we are typically we have about 2800 pages. >> we know there are a few, a

handful, potentially, of republican house members who are going to vote against the continuing resolution and that could torpedo it. but do you do you see a bunch of your fellow democrats voting for it to keep the government open? >> not that i've heard. and you know what? it's interesting that the speaker knows how to call out my colleagues, but this is their bill. so why not call out your own colleagues, the ones that elected you to be their speaker? listen, nancy pelosi didn't have these problems. so if they need some help, maybe you should tune in to a woman because maybe it just takes a woman to get it done. >> thank you. is that what you're saying? >> that's what i'm saying. >> are you going to vote against it? >> i'm going to vote against it. now, if they want to decide that, they're going to start negotiating in good faith, remember our last continuing resolution. remember it was sunk because elon decided to go on twitter. and at this point in time, he had never graced the oval office. and so if this is how they want to govern, then you're going to have to get your own house in order. but you can't come to us and just say, here, take it. and we're supposed to say, yes, thank you

so much for making us take it. that is not why we were elected. and we want the american people to see that these people cannot function. wolf, you've been talking about a stopgap. everybody is talking about a stopgap. >> the continuing resolution. >> the continuing resolution. but it's not a stopgap, right, because for everyone at home, just know that our bills, when we do appropriations, they are for one year, right. and they go from september to september. this isn't a stopgap. they've not been able to pass their own appropriations bills out of the house in the entire year. and so now they want to do this all the way to september. they never would have passed the appropriations. >> i took notes of what the house speaker, mike johnson, was saying, and he said this continuing resolution that's going to come up for a vote later today, which you will oppose, contains, he says, no cuts to medicare, medicaid or social security. >> yeah. so it is interesting that obviously, we passed the budget resolution or they passed the budget resolution that is going to require them to go into

these cuts, but they've not got their single bills passed. we've got 12 specific kind of categories. and so for everybody at home, when you think about it, when you're paying your bills, you've got your electricity, you've got your house note you've got that. so that's what we do. we have 12 separate bills and they've not been able to pass those 12 individual bills. and in those that is where they are prescribing for the cuts to those specific programs. now in this they are prescribing other cuts such as they want to get rid of money that was in the inflation reduction act. and they want to take back monies obviously, for our veterans and things like that. so i don't know if they ever plan to actually go through the 12 single appropriations bills going forward. i mean, when you're passing a continuing resolution for the entire fiscal year, i don't know why they won't try to keep doing this. i don't i don't know what they're doing. >> democratic congressman jasmine crockett, thanks so much for coming in. >> it's good to see you. >> welcome to the situation. appreciate it very, very much.

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