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>> 1 extended. >> relief formula for dry eyes. >> blink. >> happening now. breaking news. dramatic escalation. president trump upping the ante in the trade war. markets now dropping big time amid the uncertainty. take a look at this. the dow jones industrials now down 629 626 points. as we're speaking right now. we want to welcome our viewers here in the united states and around the world. pamela brown is off today. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in the situation room. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> and we're following the breaking news. president trump saying he is now doubling the tariffs on canadian aluminum and steel as markets reel for a second day in a row. the dow jones down now. take a look at this. you see the dow is way down getting close to 600 points
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now 622 points down right now 622. it's all fueled by the enormous uncertainty over the president's trade war. joining us now, cnn white house reporter alayna treene elena is joining us on cnn business and politics correspondent vanessa yurkevich is in new york. she's joining us as well. elena, let me start to you with you. what is the white house saying, first of all, about this latest escalation in tariffs involving our closest neighbor and good friend, china, canada? >> well, wolf, we really saw the president just moments ago with this post on social media, really just ramp up some of that uncertainty and threats to canada. i note as well that this comes just days after canada selected a new leader for the liberal party. we are going to have to see them have a new prime minister soon. someone who has said that he wants to continue what justin trudeau has been doing, but i want to get into what the president said. he said that in response to the premier of ontario placing a 25% tariff on electricity in certain
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states, that he is going to be responding, as you mentioned, with increasing tariffs on steel and aluminum from 25% to 50%. he also argued that that those are going to go into effect starting tomorrow morning. he also said he would soon be declaring a national emergency on electricity within the threatened area. and he went on to say that if he does not like what canada does, if he does not like how they respond, he will significantly increase tariffs on automakers and cars coming into the united states from canada. and he added, as well, he said this, which i found very notable, quote, the only thing that makes sense is for canada to become our cherished 51st state. just continuing on with that taunt. but i think the big picture here, wolf, is that we have seen so much uncertainty. the market had its worst day yesterday, that it has had all year. a lot of people wanting to get some reassurance from the president and the white house. this is not doing that. this is only creating far more uncertainty at a time when people are very concerned about the state of the economy., and
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the markets are not good. >> so far today, in the first couple of hours or so since it's open. the dow jones, as you can see, bottom right hand corner of the screen down 570 points already. elena. stand by. i want to bring in vanessa. vanessa. how else is wall street responding this morning? yesterday was very, very bad. today looks pretty bad as well. >> yeah. markets open mixed this morning. kind of waiting to see what the president was going to say. we got that answer at 10 a.m. when the president posted on truth social that he would be doubling tariffs on canadian steel and aluminum. and you see now markets reacting to that news falling even further. there's a big question here about whether or not we're pointing towards a recession. president trump said that he could not rule one out. and goldman sachs has just increased their recession forecast to 20% from 15%. but just to reassure folks at home, we are not in recession territory just yet. and jerome powell, the chair of the federal reserve, said that
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the economy is actually in a good place right now. but there are flashing warning signs right now. we are hearing from major retailers about what the outlook is looking like for consumers for this year. delta slashing its forecast by about half. and also kohl's saying that this is going to be a turbulent 2025 for consumers. and you see those stocks reacting right there. also in the auto industry. president trump in his post said that he is going to go ahead on april 2nd and put tariffs on any autos coming into the u.s. but the problem is canadian auto parts and cars are very much intertwined with u.s. manufacturing. those stocks, gm, ford and stellantis, the big three here in the u.s. are also down this morning on that news, wolf. >> they certainly are. how is canada so far reacting? vanessa? >> well, canada has said that they want to come to the negotiating table and try to
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work something out. but we heard just moments ago from doug ford, the premier of ontario, who reacted to trump's truth social posts this morning. take a listen to what he said. >> i apologize. >> to the american. >> people that. >> president trump decided to have an unprovoked attack on our country, on families, on jobs, and it's unacceptable. i'll talk to the team and we'll make an appropriate response to president trump. again, i stress this is not the american people. canadians know it. and if we go into a recession, it's self-made by one person. it's called president trump's recession, which shouldn't be this way. we should be booming both countries right now. >> now, wolf, we've been reporting a lot on the trade war with canada, mexico and china. but this is really shaping up to be a global trade war. you heard saying that the recession that could be coming would be
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self-inflicted. we also heard the same thing from the former treasury secretary, larry summers, who said that would also be self-inflicted. now, the markets this morning have been reacting at every step of the way along this news cycle. it will be interesting to see if we get any readout from the 5 p.m. business roundtable that the president is holding later today, and whether or not business leaders can try to pull back president trump from some of these more rash tariff decisions, of course, rattling markets and american consumers who are looking for some certainty right now, wolf. >> we'll see what happens, and we'll monitor what the president has to say. later today. he was silent on all of this yesterday. vanessa yurkevich and alayna treene reporting for us to both of you. thank you. there's more breaking news we're following right now. we're expecting a cliffhanger vote later today on a spending bill. congress and the house speaker, mike johnson, scrambling right now to avoid a full scale federal government shutdown as the deadline draws closer and closer. i want to go live to cnn congressional correspondent lauren fox up on
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capitol hill. lauren, where do things stand, at least right now? >> yeah. republican leaders, wolf, are trying to make a point. but that point only will succeed if they can convince all of their members to rally behind the plan, and that is to support the stopgap spending bill that continues government funding until the end of september. now, democrats have preferred a shorter term stopgap measure that would allow them to negotiate full year spending bills. but that is something that at this point, johnson is saying he will not do. the question is whether he has the votes to pass it. now. already, speaker johnson has one no vote in thomas massie, and there are a number of other conservatives who are still holding out support. you can expect that president trump is going to be working the phone lines. you can expect gop leaders are going to be having meetings, having conversations with their skeptical members. there are a lot of conservatives who don't typically vote for these stopgap measures that are going to have
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to be convinced. we expect that this vote will happen later this afternoon. but here's johnson already blaming democrats. >> they're planning to vote down this simple bill. they are going to try to shut the government down. every house democrat will participate in this. it looks like that would be a shame if it's true. i hope some of them will have a moment of clarity themselves and do the right thing, but it looks like they're going to try to shut down the government. it's a striking new posture for democrats who have always said they've just been apoplectic about the prospect of government shutdowns. >> and typically in these kind of negotiations, a lot of democrats do support these stopgap measures. but we expect that democratic leaders are going to be holding their caucus together. the bigger question is if this does get out of the house, what happens in the united states senate? they are going to need a handful of democrats over there already today, wolf. i have been questioning one after another. democrat. no one committed to supporting the bill, but no one
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committed to voting, no knowing that doing so could lead to a government shutdown come friday at midnight, wolf. >> all right. we'll see what happens in the house of representatives later today. lauren fox reporting for us. lauren, thank you very much. still ahead, follow the money. elon musk is sharing brand new details about doge and what's next for its cost cutting, cost cutting efforts. plus, staff cuts and funding freezes are pushing fema to cancel. yes, cancel most classes at the country's top fire training academy. actually, as we head into fire season, stay with us. you're in the situation room welcome back. >> have i got news for you? new saturday on cnn. >> mirror. joy. >> the overwhelming. >> relief after miralax helps you go. >> miralax works. naturally with the water in your body, putting you in. >> a supernaturally good mood. >> miralax free your gut to free your mood. yellow didn't.
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effort to deport him. cnn correspondent priscilla alvarez is here with me in the situation room. i know you're getting more information. priscilla, what are you learning? >> well. >> i am learning from sources that secretary of state marco rubio approved of a use of a legal provision, a rare one, wolf, to initiate this arrest and detaining not only of khalil, but also of another activist. now, this is a legal provision that is in immigration law. essentially, it gives authority to the secretary of state. if they find that someone is deemed to be a threat to u.s. foreign policy. now, in this case, the it seems to be the argument that the government is making for the arrest of this activist. but, wolf, it is an extraordinary escalation of the immigration crackdown by this administration. now, as you mentioned there, a federal judge has blocked the effort to deport him. there will be a hearing tomorrow where we will learn more about that. in a filing quote, to preserve the court's jurisdiction pending a ruling on the petition, petitioners shall not be removed from the united
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states unless and until the court orders otherwise. so there are still some steps that we are going to see unfold here. i think one of the things we'll be watching very closely is what the government brings to that hearing. we know what provision in the law they're using to detain this activist, but what evidence do they have? and ultimately, it will be a judge who will have to decide, is this really free speech, or was there support of a terrorist organization? those are some of the questions we anticipate are going to be raised over the course of these proceedings. now, i will say this. we have a statement from the attorney kailey leinz attorney who says, quote, the u.s. government has made clear that they will use immigration enforcement as a tool to suppress that speech, that being free speech. so there's still so many questions here in terms of how they came to that determination, wolf. but i am learning from my sources that the secretary of state did approve the use of this provision for the detainment of khalil, who is now being held in louisiana. >> and does the trump administration, specifically the secretary of state, marco rubio,
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who ordered his deportation? do they have evidence that khalil was threatening jewish students at columbia university? >> and that's exactly what we anticipate hearing more about tomorrow during the hearing. so far, they have not provided what evidence that they are using to hold him. those are the questions we expect a judge will have. we're also keeping a close eye on the docket for any filings from the government that would include those exhibits, for example, to say these are the reasons we think he's a he's a threat to u.s. foreign policy. >> all right. priscilla alvarez reporting for us. good work. thank you very, very much. and we'll be right back with more news are you hungry? >> i'm hungry. >> oh, perfect. >> i'm so excited. this is. >> cuisine at a different level. oh, yeah. food makes me so happy. >> eva longoria searching for spain premieres april 27th on si. >> you'll love this. centrum silver is clinically proven to support memory in older adults, so you can keep saying you
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loss mark is this training. >> right now? absolutely. i mean, we liken it to the war college or the naval postgraduate school for what firefighters go through. so, you know, the locals are good at getting the basic training to folks and where we tend to see and where we've seen it across the 50 states, i've worked in three different ones and where we've seen it across the 50 states. so when we get into those higher level classes, we begin to see a disparity in what people feel are the priorities. and that's where the national training academy, the national fire academy brings together the executive fire officer program and others to help firefighters be consistent. and i think it's extremely important when we start talking about 911 response and to make sure that our communities not only who expect good service from us, they get good, consistent and efficient service. >> you know this area very, very well. is there anything to fill this void for training first responders at the local, state and national levels yeah, so
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important thing for people to understand. >> the national fire academy has both on campus opportunities and off campus opportunities. and all 50 states have training academies or training associations that are associated with the national fire academy. more people actually attend national fire academy courses at their state level than they actually do at the campus at emmitsburg. the difference is that every one of those courses is no cost to those firefighters. it would be completely cost prohibitive if the firefighters had to find that training either at. a local level without the funding covered or from some private entity. so being able to tie all that together, is there something to replace that? no there isn't. the states have their own academies. in most cases, the locals have their own academies and they can get that basic training done. but when we start talking about the coordination of training at the higher levels, there's not another entity that's doing that.
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>> yeah. good point. we did some research. the national fire academy and the u.s. fire administration were founded 50 years ago to reduce fire deaths, and that mission has shown enormous success over these decades. that's right. i assume you agree? >> oh, absolutely. i mean, if you want to cover, i'll cover that whole little piece there. you know, in 1973, the america burning report, which was commissioned by the government, determined that that between 12 and 16,000 people were dying every year in fires in the united states. so they established the national the united states fire administration in 1974, a year after that report. and then in 1977, the national fire academy. so their main mission out of the america burning report was to reduce fire deaths and reduce losses. insured losses in the united
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states. we have reduced those fire deaths by 75%. so while 3000 people still die every year, which is one, every three hours, somebody is dying in a fire in the united states still today. but that's much better than the 33 per hour that we're that we're dying in. 1973. so the mission was pretty succinct, and the mission has been phenomenally successful to take this away right now, even for applause, we're going to begin to see a degradation in our service. it may not happen tonight or tomorrow, but you're going to see a degradation in the capabilities of fire departments who are unable to get this training and keep their people up to date. >> so critically important. hard to believe this is even being considered here in the united states of america. mark boucher, thank you very much for all your service over the years. thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you. appreciate it. >> and i want to get back to the breaking news right now. president trump now saying he will double tariffs on canadian aluminum and steel imports. he says it's a response to
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ontario, the province of ontario, placing a 25% surcharge on electricity coming into three u.s. neighboring states. and joining us now, the ontario premier, doug ford. premier ford, thanks so much for joining us. first of all, what's your reaction when you heard this latest news? >> well, first of all, thanks for having me on, wolf. and it's a disappointing and i'll tell you the reason it's disappointing because americans are going to pay more. they only have the capacity. the u.s. only has the capacity of producing 16% of the aluminum. they need pretty well, almost. the balance comes to over 60% comes from quebec. so costs are going to go up along with aluminum and steel. let's focus on the real problem. and that's china. you know, bringing train shipments in and costing american and canadian jobs. i want to make sure that we we send more electricity. well, if i want to
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send more critical minerals, but there was an unprovoked attack on canada, on families, on jobs, on businesses. for what reason? you know, the market is speaking loud and clear. consumer confidence is down. the market is tumbling. you know there's going to be plants closed in the u.s. assembly plants will shut down because they won't have the aluminum, or they'll be paying twice or three times as much. this is this is absolute chaos created by one person. and that's donald trump, not the american people. i always say canadians love americans. i love americans, and this this has to stop. let's sit around the table and negotiate a new deal. even though he created the deal in the first place. >> yeah. and as someone who grew up in western new york, in buffalo, along the border with canada, i can honestly say i love canadians as well. talk a little bit about ontario, your province and the electrical power it shares with the states in the united states along the
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border. a lot of it is coming from ontario, right? >> that's correct. the power 1.5 million homes and businesses in new york and michigan and in minnesota. i just got off the phone with governor whitmer. i consider her a friend. we've worked together for seven years. she's a wonderful person and i apologize to her. she understands. but what i recommend is on the electricity bill put down this increase is a tariff from from trump. it's a trump tariff, which is basically a trump tax. >> as you know, you've called this an unprovoked trade and tariff war initiated by the united states against canada. trump is saying that canada pays very little for national security and relies on the u.s. for military protection. what's your response to him on that issue? >> i agree that we have to meet our 2% commitment, our nato commitment. i've said it. i've
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said it for years. other premiers all signed agreements sending it to the federal government. we spend 1.4% on on defense. it needs to go up to 2%. we we have to pitch in our share 100%. i agree on the 2%. >> yeah, that's what he's been saying now for the last several years. the nato allies have to increase their spending to come up to what the u.s. percentage of military spending is. his latest truth social post earlier today, premier also doubled down on trump's desire for canada to become the 51st state of the united states, saying the brilliant o canada anthem will continue to play. how do canadians feel about what the president trump is saying about canada becoming part of the united states and even allowing o canada a beautiful national anthem, to continue playing? >> well, obviously the canadians are infuriated. and what it's done, it's united. the whole country and the patriotism is
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running wild across the the country the lakes have never seen before in my entire life. i will never become the 51st state. canada is not for sale and we want a great trading partner. we've had. we had the greatest neighbors in the world, the u.s. and it's not the american people. they didn't vote president trump in on on this type of mandate. he had a mandate to lower inflation, lower cost of living, create more jobs, and it backfired on them. inflation is going up. jobs will be be lost. there's he's taking more money out of americans pockets for for what reason. we're still trying to figure this out. let's sit down at the table and negotiate this deal. if there's things he doesn't like, then we sit down and we we have a conversation. but just going for tat back and forth, all it does is hurt americans and canadians. it's unacceptable.
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>> before i let you go, premier, i want to ask one final question. trump is calling on canada to drop its tariff on dairy products. is this a realistic. request? >> well, it's one of the items that obviously gets under his skin. let's sit down and talk about it. that is as simple as that. let's renegotiate the usmca. let's stop the bleeding on both sides of the border. as china is sitting there laughing at both countries. let's sit down and negotiate a fair trade for both countries. and everyone benefits. >> yeah, it's amazing what's going on. hard to believe. as a kid growing up in buffalo, new york, along the border with canada, whenever i would go to a buffalo sabers hockey game, they'd always play the u.s. national anthem, but they would always play o canada as well, because so many of the hockey players, almost all of them, were canadians. and i just remember that as a kid growing up, doug ford, the premier of ontario, thanks very much for joining us. and we'll be right back. >> well, thank you, wolf.
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nasdaq just up slightly. but really the dow and s&p coming off their worst trading day of 2025 last year, trying to make sense of what is going on. we spoke to an investor just a short time ago who said that the market is blatantly just sick and tired of the back and forth, and that it's impossible for investors to have any confidence right now. and that is not a good thing when you're talking about the stock market, investors want to feel some sort of certainty and predictability, and that is not what is playing out right now. you can see those markets now just reacting and trying to get some sort of sense of what is going on right now. we know that there has been a little bit of talk about a recession. well, i just want to quell fears a little bit. we know that goldman sachs upped their forecast to about 20% chance of a recession from 15%, but we are not in recession territory yet. we heard from jerome powell, the fed chair, who said that the economy is in a good place. but so much uncertainty. does, wolf start to
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open some cracks and people are starting to wonder what is to come next. the uncertainty is just paralyzing right now, wolf. >> people are worried right now. they see those numbers of vanessa yurkevich appreciated very, very much. and there's more breaking news we're following right now. top u.s. officials are holding truly crucial talks with the ukrainian delegation in saudi arabia. there's a lot of lot at stake. aid to kyiv, intelligence sharing with ukraine and whether the two sides can mend ties after that fiery oval office clash between president trump and zelenskyy that all of us, of course, remember. let's discuss this and more with cnn contributor on russian affairs, jill dougherty. she's a former cnn moscow bureau chief. she has a brand new book. there. you see the cover coming out next month called my russia. what i saw inside the kremlin. jill, thanks so much for joining us. and thanks so much for writing this important book. i've gone through it, as you know, and it really is eye opening to learn of your own experiences in
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moscow. first of all, jill, how critical is this summit that's going on in saudi arabia right now for trying to restore u.s. aid and intelligence sharing with ukraine? >> yeah, i think, wolf, that's the critical part for ukraine, because without the military aid, but especially, as you noted, the intelligence information that is halted right now, that's having an effect on the battlefield. and so there's a short term and a long term game here. i mean, zelenskyy's team has to try to get to convince the other side, the americans, that they are serious about wanting some type of ceasefire or end to the conflict. but at the same time, they want the united states to continue that military help and the intelligence, because they are being hurt on the battlefield. and then the russians, you know, the vladimir putin watches this. they are not saying much of anything. and i
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think you you have to listen to the words that rubio, secretary rubio is using, which are concessions. he said, what concessions will the ukrainians make? and then what do they need from the other side? so until they can, you know, until they can really get this thing moving, it's really more a long term game for both sides. so it's complicated. and that's why i think these talks obviously are going on for quite a long time. >> yeah. you're you're right. the secretary of state, marco rubio, says he wants to see and he used this word concessions from the ukrainians. and he said he wants to know what they would be willing to make during these talks with russia. is now the right time for ukraine to start putting concessions, their concessions on the table? >> they do not think that this is the time, what they're trying to do. they have proposed a partial ceasefire, and essentially it would be both
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sides stop the attacks on civilian infrastructure, on energy. they have prisoner swaps. and but it's it's a first move. they're not going for that. you know the full how do you solve this. and neither are the russians. i mean i think for zelenskyy his problem is if you stop the fighting, if you have a ceasefire, even a temporary ceasefire, what are the guarantees that this won't happen again? what are the guarantees that russia won't come in again and attack? so that means longer term security. and for the russians, the russians are saying we're not you know, we're we're of course we want peace. but they're not saying anything specifically about how they would get there, other than to say that it's a long term. they want the root causes, and the root causes, you know, that's nato borders. it's a very big subject. so again, we've got short term, long term. and until you can get the short term, you know, kick started, you can't go
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long term. >> very dramatic development overnight. as you know jill russia says it was hit by a massive wave of ukrainian drone attacks overnight including actual drone strikes on various targets in moscow. officials there claim they downed more than 300 ukrainian drones. what do you make of the timing of these ukrainian strikes on moscow? >> well, it would appear that what they're saying is, hey, moscow, you know, we can hit you too, just as you hit us. and so it's kind of like a bargaining chip or a, i guess, a bargaining chip. but, you know, the problem is the russians did that, too, just last week, as we remember, they had a huge attack on ukraine. and that is when president trump said, oh, we may have increased sanctions and we may have tariffs, but he did not follow through on those. now we have to see i would be very interested in whether president
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trump himself says something about the ukrainian attacks on russia, because these things are, you know, they they can change the equation. so we will see the russians say they will. yeah. >> and we'll see how russia is going to retaliate. we know for three years they've been bombing civilian targets in ukraine, including in kyiv, the capital, almost nonstop. and now ukraine is attacking various targets in moscow. hard to believe all of this is going on right now in europe. jill dougherty, congratulations on the new book. i know it's coming out very, very soon. we'll discuss it. there's the cover right there. my russia. what i saw inside the kremlin. and jill and i go way back. we were both senior white house correspondents for cnn during the bill clinton administration. so we share a lot of history. thanks, jill, very much for all the good work you're doing. and we're still following our breaking news. we're getting more reaction right now to president trump's newest tariff threats targeting canada. we'll have details straight ahead.
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after the world health organization declared covid 19 a global pandemic. the virus had found a foothold on every continent except antarctica and in several countries. transmission was sustained and very, very substantial. cnn chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta, calling the outbreak, by the way, a pandemic. days before even the world health organization did so. sanjay is joining us live right now. i know, sanjay, you've had your eyes on this the whole whole time. it's been five years. where do things stand right now in 2025? >> well, you know, i think, wolf, for a lot of people, they're still a component of post-traumatic stress, almost. if you look at the images that have become sort of lasting images from the pandemic, paramedics in those early days rushing to people's homes to try and provide care. people being reunited after a few months of not being able to see each other, grandparents and grandkids, for example, and then
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just all that social distancing that, you know, became a part of controlling the pandemic for some time. that's what a lot of people remember. i think, you know, time is a bit warped. wolf, i think for some people it feels like a year ago. for other people, it feels like a decade ago. some people have post-traumatic stress. other people think this is way in the past. but just just to give you an idea of where things are now, if you look overall at the world, how many confirmed cases of covid there was in the world versus the united states, you know, 778,000, a million versus 103 million in the united states. if you look at deaths overall, and keep in mind as you look at these numbers, that the united states is about 4 to 5% of the world's population. and yet we had, you know, 1.2 million deaths, compared to 7 million deaths around the world, so close to a seventh, more than a seventh of the world's deaths. again, these are confirmed sort of cases. so those are the that's sort of the snapshot of where things are. now, wolf, one
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thing i will point out is that, you know, we got we had a vaccine by the end of 2020. and now looking back four years, you say, well, how much of a difference did it make? if you look for a six month period, for example, between october of 23 to april of 24, you say there was about 5300 deaths that were averted because of the vaccine, 68,000 hospitalizations averted. so, you know, that's a bit of a snapshot, some dire numbers in terms of what the pandemic did, but also some glimmers of hope in terms of what the vaccine was able to prevent. wolf. >> and, sanjay, i know we've been asking our audiences about the lasting impacts of the pandemic, and i want to read some of the notes we've received. first, from priscilla, who told us this. my mother died from covid, and this is a year i can't get past. it seems i am still reliving it every day since then. also, sherry wrote this saying it was utter devastation. within a month i lost two close coworkers to covid. one beloved e.r. doctor took his own life, and that's
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when i left. i never want to experience anything like it again. what are the other reactions reflections that you're learning and you're getting, sanjay? because i know you're you're getting a lot of feedback. >> well, i think among health care workers, wolf, especially that last comment you read that really strikes close to home. and people lost people that they knew that they worked with. they saw patients dying in hospitals. i think it's very different for people who didn't see that. i think people who have a component of post-traumatic stress are more likely clearly to be people who were affected by this, either directly because of loss of loved ones or because of caring for patients and hospitals. i think there's two things that really spring to mind. one is that there was this wondrous technology of the mrna vaccines. i mean, i think it forever probably changed the pace of medical innovation to be able to develop a vaccine that quickly. on the other hand, even before the pandemic, public health was not invested in well in this country. and now it feels like it's slowly being bludgeoned even further. i mean, more than 500 people have been
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let go from the cdc. more than a thousand people from the nih at a time when, you know, public health really matters. we see measles outbreaks. i was just in west texas a couple of weeks ago, seeing what's happening with measles there. we're still keeping an eye on things like h5n1. so it's at the extremes, wolf. on one hand, we really rose to the task in terms of developing a wondrous vaccine for covid 19. on the other hand, basic public health infrastructure is still being sacrificed, which is a real shame. >> still be getting covid shots and covid booster shots. >> i think if you've not had covid, if you don't have any natural immunity, and especially if you're at high risk, yeah, that makes sense. >> yeah, we always listen to you. our chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta. thanks for all your important work. and sanjay will be back tomorrow to answer some of the many questions we've been getting for our viewers. please send along your questions and reflections on covid 19, and we'll share some of that with
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