allergens, and bacteria from the other. visit nasal fresh md. com and get 25% off with code tv 25. >> laura coates live next on cnn. >> closed captioning is brought to you by skechers. >> hands free slip in footwear. >> hi, i'm howie mandel, the newest ambassador for skechers. i went to the store to buy hands free skechers slip ins, and i said i was an ambassador. the owner called me and i said yes. skechers slip ins. >> the black lives matter art that became part of dc after the

watching newsnight. laura coates live starts right now. >> tonight, a car show at the white house, donald trump and elon musk make a tesla pitch on the south lawn. but a lot of americans aren't buying what they're selling. plus, president trump's tariff whiplash hits breakneck speeds as everyday americans are asking, what's the end game? and there's new footage from right before a u.s. student vanished in the dominican republic. our investigators, closer to finding out what happened to this girl. tonight on laura coates live. you know, president trump is trying to give a lifeline to the man who gave him a nearly $300 million lifeline during the campaign. how? by turning the south lawn of the white house into a kind of tesla showroom with elon musk right there to give the sales

pitch. why? well, probably because of the company's plummeting stock, which is down nearly 40% for the year. or maybe because of scenes like these at royce o'neale, tesla showrooms shattered windows, damaged cars and what looks like gunshots near portland, oregon dealership. now you add in tesla charging stations burned to a crisp outside of boston, and you end up with trump putting on a kind of live tesla advertisement at the white house and when i saw what was happening with this, you know, the concerted effort by page, i think they're paid agitators. >> and when i saw what was happening, i said, i want to buy a tesla. and he shouldn't be sacrificed or have to suffer because he wants to help government. >> but the story doesn't seem to end with trump's empathy. perhaps for musk, he's also accusing people of illegally boycotting tesla. except it's

not actually illegal to boycott companies, and the president took it a step further during his tesla. show and tell. >> mr. president, he talks about some of the violence that's been going on around the country at dealerships. some say they should be labeled domestic terrorists because we'll do that. >> i'll do it. i'm going to stop them. we catch anybody doing it because they're harming a great american company. and let me tell you, you do it to tesla and you do it to any company. we're going to catch you and you're going to you're going to go through hell. >> naturally, violence should be condemned and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. but most protests against tesla, they appear to have been overwhelmingly peaceful. and when you make claims that boycotting is illegal, coupled with threats of domestic terror charges, well, it makes people wonder if it's a maybe it's a pretext, something more. if the idea is to send a message. lawmakers in congress are facing one of their own, because trump is signaling that republicans who don't rubber stamp his

agenda, well, they might face the primary. case in point. congressman thomas massie, the only republican to vote against the bill to fund the government through september. trump is calling him a grandstander and threatening to put him out of a job. as for massie, well, he seems unbothered. >> are you worried about your future prospects with donald trump coming after? >> you know, if i go if i get on this plane and never come back, i could still be the happiest guy on the planet. >> but can he beat you? can he beat you? >> i don't know. i doubt it. i think the comments were put out there to keep other republicans in line. >> so massie may not be worried about his job. it's a different story for federal judges, because if you're a jurist who doesn't support trump's view of the law, his allies will threaten to come after you as well. tonight, there are two judges speaking out against threats to impeach judges who don't bend to the president's

will. one of them happened to have been appointed by the president himself. he says that impeachment shouldn't be a short circuit of the appeals process. their message is likely directed at, well, elon musk himself, who has repeatedly called for removing judges who rule against the president of the united states. joining me now, kara swisher, a cnn contributor and new york times opinion contributing writer and, of course, host of the on and pivot podcast. glad to see you, my friend. i want to know what your reactions have been to the fact that the president was seeming to be running to musk's side today. there's a bit of a tesla sales pitch being made to the american people. >> well, the sales are off like a lot across the world, not just in the united states, but in europe and germany. like by double digits, large double digits as people don't want to buy the cars for a lot of reasons. one, they don't like elon musk and you're allowed to do that in any country you want. if you don't want to buy a car, you don't like the people who make it. you don't have to buy it. the other is there's not a very fresh line of cars, actually. there's a lot of

competitors. and so that's another thing. they're suffering some sort of weakness in that way and updates. and they've promised a lot of things like full self-driving that haven't come to pass. they've promised robotaxis, haven't come to pass. and so he's doing him a solid by by doing this ridiculous and very cheap use of the white house to sell cars. it looked like a like, well, i guess it's a new car lot, but it looked like a used car lot. >> it is fascinating to think about. there could be other reasons that someone opts not to purchase a car, other than perhaps his political stance. imagine that. but he is intricately tied, of course, to the tesla, as you well know. and then after that display at the white house today, i mean, the new york times is reporting that musk is now looking to donate 100 million bucks into groups controlled by president trump's political operation. and it's not actually clear if this would be one of trump's super pacs or a new organization. but that's a whole hell of a lot of money. why this much and why now? yeah. >> well, one, he's doing it the trump can control. so he's showing a level of, you know, fealty alpha beta. like i will give you what you want. the

other one that he has, he controls a musk does. secondly he's made up that money today. the stock finally went up after constant declines over the past few weeks. and it went up a little. it probably made that money already in tesla stock. it'll probably go down again. it's not going to he's going to have to do a car sale every day. you know, essentially to get that stock back up, which would be something to see. but it's a terrible use of, you know, taxpayer money to do what, to do this to help a donor who's doing that. but he's doing that so he can make the money. and i think we need to all focus for all the distraction on elon musk and the rest of it. and they are doing significant things. always look at the money he is giving him, money and the ability to primary other people is a cudgel he can use against people like massie and others. and that's what this is all about, is more money from elon musk, because trump is helping him keep his fortune larger. >> i mean, more money, more primaries, right? that's the name of the game. and this is, of course, on top of the quarter of a billion bucks he spent on the campaign. on top of the time, he is also spending i

mean, his actual, you know, time capital on the agenda. and i keep going back to this. what exactly is in it for musk? is it pure altruism or something more? >> no, no no no, he wants power. he actually believes this, i think in part. you know, i just was in south by southwest with a lot of people like mark cuban and many others, and everyone thinks it's really about power and control. i would look to i he really wants there's going to be 1 or 2 major players in aa, possibly just one, and elon wants to be at the front of the line even though his aa company, while it's, you know, it's a strong aa company, it's not at the top. openai is and several others. and so he wants to be in the front row when trump is handing out all the benefits from a.i. and various things the government can do. that's where i, i think that's his biggest interest. >> well, it seems like it's apparent. kara swisher thank you as always. >> thank you. >> i want to bring in former campaign manager for donald trump, bill stepien. also, former obama campaign advisor marcia cross. i'm not going to ask either of you if you have a

tesla, because i think it's just going to be a loaded question these days. let me ask you, though, bill, president trump did have these teslas on the south lawn of the white house. how is that not a conflict of interest? >> i think this is more political than financial. i think this is actually about yesterday in the comments on fox news. whether you believe musk or somebody else, he either stepped in entitlement reform or entitlement cuts. i think the white house was obviously forced to issue a retraction or clarification today. i think in a town in which division is at the top of everyone's list, i think this was the president putting his arm around elon musk and saying, there's no division. he's my guy. i want to keep this guy in power to keep doing the job he's doing. >> i feel like every week we're hearing something, whether it's their joint interview where musk is saying that they're trying to tear us apart, and he's like, i know this or the comments about president musk, there seems to be a consistent drumbeat of, no, no, i'm really in control, which makes people question. methinks the lady doth protest too much in some respects. but

then the democrats maybe aren't protesting enough amicia because here was what they had on their official democrats account on x, by the way, saying in a post, this is their words, ugly truck. is that the best that they can come up with? >> it sounds like a middle schooler. absolutely. >> i have a middle schooler, and it does, in fact sound like one. >> absolutely not. democrats. it's not lost on anybody that the lack of a cohesive message, the lack of a message in general, is something that continues to evade them. i think that at this point, the focus should be on the effects that are happening to everyday americans. we talked about just a moment ago, some of those entitlement cuts that are bound to happen because the budget that this republican party wants, they cannot get without dipping their hand into those entitlements. they need to start talking to many of the workers and the families in the states that have since lost their jobs, and many more that are going to be cut over the next few weeks. >> how does this actually impact? that's i mean, that's the big question. like i've heard you articulate this before and in your political eloquence,

you have said this. why why are we not seeing that? >> because i think the democratic party has lost the plot, the idea that change comes from the top down is extremely frustrating when you're supposed to be the party of the grassroots, when you are supposed to be the party of civil rights, when you are supposed to be the party that elevated activism. right now we're seeing a party that is playing games on tiktok and making weird videos that nobody fully understands and is not addressing or speaking to the issues that are affecting everyday people. >> well, of course, tesla, speaking of everyday people, these are not like, you know, $10 trucks, right? these are not 1000 or 10,000. these are upwards of 40 to 110,000 bucks a pop. so the idea of the president having the rightsizing or downsizing or just firing federal workers and talking about the cost of living, is this too tone deaf to try to perpetuate the message he wants voters to see? >> it was unconventional, for sure. to put it mildly. i would also say, who's the democrats

messenger, right? the message is part of the problem. no one can out scream donald trump, right? there was no one out there. >> but donald trump also has several messengers. the echo chamber is a lot larger across multiple social media platforms. he's got college students, he's got recent grads. he's got people in appalachia. he's got people in big urban centers as well. at this point, the messaging, it's not just one messenger. >> well, but you mentioned the message being unconventional. i mean, people are fighting over the price of eggs, eggs and teslas are in the back of the president of the united states. this does not jive for many people that this is somebody who's focused on lowering prices for the average person, most of whom can't afford a tesla. >> not the way i would have done it. but i also think this is in some ways refreshing from what we saw over the last four years where you didn't have this access, you didn't have this interaction. >> refreshing. for whom the average tesla owner has has access to their salary of over $150,000. >> a year. they didn't have access to our president for the last four.

>> they don't have access to him. now you know who has access to people who bought it? billionaires. >> you're not wrong about the access of it, but in terms of what you would have done, i mean, why do this? i mean, why why has there been the focus and the prioritization of the trump administration on things outside of what i thought was a really winning strategy? you said it in the past of focusing on the almighty dollar for the average person. why? why pivot in this way? is it useful to them? >> useful to who? >> republicans? to donald trump, to those seeking reelection in the midterms, to securing the majority, maintaining it? everyone. >> what's happened this week? all nominees have been confirmed by the senate. write in swift order. no issues, no problems. today we passed a funding bill in congress with one defection. so we can talk about the car, show the south lawn, all the stuff. but the mechanics of government are happening. education, big changes there today. so we can talk about what's happening on the south lawn, but changes happening,

changes afoot in washington. >> so are democrats distracted by what's happening right now? i mean, you had ro khanna, congressman ro khanna, who denounced the acts of violence against tesla. he had come on earlier in the last week talking about how he was a little bit saddened and using my own word there at other democrats, not standing at other significant moments during that joint address to congress, and not sort of giving an inch. trump said the same thing. are democrats distracted by things like the south lawn and missing the mark for the average voter? >> well, i think that it's important for democrats to make the connection between the wealth and opulence that is being shown at the white house, when many of them still can't afford the price of eggs, or the next school supplies for their kids, or even know if the school is going to be open next year because of the cuts to the department of ed. those are things that i think that they're trying to hammer home. but in addition to that, i agree there there were certain circumstances where democrats should have stood during that, during that joint session, particularly. >> his head is swiveling. like you're talking. i agree with you. but go ahead. >> particularly the young, the young brain cancer survivor. my

my niece actually passed away from brain tumor at six years old. so it's a very personal thing for a lot of people. and they feel like, you know, you go against trump when it comes to the policy, but we're talking about american families, and there are a lot of people who were honored during that process who politics did matter. these were american heroes and people who had survived some pretty tragic situations. >> sorry to hear about your niece. i'm glad you shared that with us though. thank you for making sure we understand. these are there's rhetoric and there's real people impacted every single day. so thank you both. still ahead, businesses, investors and everyday people all looking for some sort of crystal ball as to how trump's trade war pain might end. well, one of the smartest economic wizards around is with us to help answer that question, larry summers is next. >> twitter is having this moment. it shaped the way that

we receive news. oh my god, what in the world is going on? feelings are getting hurt. relationships are getting hurt. that's bad. >> twitter breaking the bird sunday at ten on cnn. >> expense of the onboarding, the benefits. the time off requests. fixing payroll. it has to stop. >> a cry for help. >> action hero unnecessary. >> was that necessary? >> no. neither is stressing over things that should be automated. paycom automates everything. that's less stress for you and your people. >> okay. >> set your hr and payroll to automatic and make the unnecessary unnecessary. >> nobody understands me. >> what do you mean? >> if you have heart disease and struggle with ldl. >> even with statins and diet. >> listen to your heart. >> talk to your doctor about repatha. >> repatha plus a statin lowers ldl-c by 63%. do not take repatha if you're allergic to it. serious allergic reactions can occur. get medical help right away if you have trouble breathing or swallowing. swelling of the face, lips, tongue, throat, or arms. common

side effects include runny nose, sore throat, common cold symptoms flu or flu like symptoms, back pain, high blood sugar and redness, pain or bruising at the injection site. ask about repatha. >> knowledge is put to the test in every gmc, sierra, or get 0.9% apr on these sierra models or current eligible gmc owners. get over 7800 total value today. she starts with a drive, but the real work came before. inspired by a coach who recognized her potential, morgan stanley proudly supports first team driving progress for the next generation. >> liberty. >> liberty mutual is all she talks about. since we saved hundreds by bundling our home and auto insurance. liberty. >> hey, kid, it's pronounced liberty. >> liberty. >> liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty. >> liberty. >> liberty. >> now she's mocking me. very mature.

>> hey! that's enough, you two. >> hey, i'm not the one acting like a total baby. >> she's too. >> only pay for what you need. >> liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty. >> if you're 55 and up, t mobile. >> has plans built just for you. two lines of unlimited. for just 30 bucks a line, that's a 45% savings compared to verizon and at&t. >> it's not just the savings that are great with our t mobile plan. there's all this value from all these other things that t mobile offers. >> switch today and get two free 5g phones like the motorola edge with turbopower charging. that gives you power for the day in just 15 minutes, and two lines of unlimited for just 30 bucks a lot. >> t-mobile has been such a savings for us. >> we love it. >> it's the beauty of oman. our tradition. our hospitality, the

sounds of limitless fast and reliable solutions from comcast business can help turn your business into a... reliably up-and-running cybersecuring... performance boosting... storm preparing... ...wifi backup is working... ...reliannected, modern business. powering the engine of modern business.

comcast business >> it's not that you're spending in real time. lowers bills and helps you find and cancel sneaky subscriptions. >> sign me up. >> stay on track with your finances and elon rocket money today. >> united states of scandal. >> with jake tapper sunday at 9:00 on cnn. >> well, another dizzying day of president trump's trade war with canada. the white house still on track to impose a 25% tariff on steel and aluminum on canada at midnight after backing off a whopping 50% threat. you may wonder why the white house would do that. >> there's a very strong man in canada who said he was going to charge a surcharge or a tariff on electricity coming into our country. he's he has called and he said he's not going to do that. he was a gentleman. he was a gentleman. >> well, tonight that gentleman, as the president calls him, telling his side of the story it's not about backing down. >> it's about sitting around

the table and negotiating a fair deal, because right now, no one likes uncertainty. >> well, joining me now, former treasury secretary larry summers. mr. secretary, thank you for joining. i am curious from your take, what are the consequences of having these daily policy changes on something as significant as tariffs i mean, we're doing real damage to our economy. >> it's a self-inflicted wound. we increase the price of goods like steel and aluminum that are used by companies that employ 10 million people. we make purchasing weapons for our national security more expensive. we make cars more expensive for american consumers. we alienate countries that used to be among the best friends we had in the world. we hurt u.s. exporters. when canada retaliates, we give a gift to

asia because every time we produce jointly back and forth with a supply chain with canada, the asians are getting a big advantage relative to us, as are the europeans. so it seems to me this is pretty much all downside as economic policy and all of the uncertainty where nobody can predict what's going to happen. what do you do when you're not sure what the future holds? you decide it's the wrong time to buy a car. it's the wrong time to buy a house. if you're a business, you decide to hold on to your money and figure out what your factory is going to look like a little bit down the road. so i think we're taking real chances with our economy in the way we're doing this. >> and of course, the markets have been volatile as a result of it. and actually, mr. secretary, there have been some financial commentators who have suggested that president trump may want to impact the markets this way to put some pressure on the fed. chairman powell, to

maybe lower interest rates. how do you think powell is viewing how all this is happening? >> i hope and i trust that the fed is going to do its job independently, as is mandated by law. and i expect that that's what they will do. it certainly what they should do. i got to say that damaging the economy so that the fed will cut interest rates seems kind of, like a crazy approach to managing the economy, because at the end of the day, they're going to be, behind. it's like burning your own house so you can get some insurance or something. it seems like a very odd strategy for moving the country forward.

look, i. >> have, i think. >> two months ago, most experts thought the odds of a recession in the united states this year were 10 or 15%. now, those odds are close to 50%. and there's only one important thing that's changed. and that is the kinds of policies we're pursuing. a few months ago, most people thought the united states economy and the united states stock market was the strongest in the world. now it's lagging badly behind many others. only one thing that's important has changed. so i think we're doing real economic damage. there are things that the president is doing that are appropriate. some of the efforts to reduce regulation, i think, are very much necessary. some change in our policies at the border are appropriate. but these tariffs and some of what's being done

to somewhat arbitrarily slash and burn government spending, i think that's going to create uncertainty and problems that are going to be with us for a very long time. >> an ominous warning. larry summers, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> still ahead, what happens when a republican repeatedly votes against president trump's wishes? well, republican congressman thomas massie is about to find out. and later, mel gibson. yep. that one. and the sudden gun rights request that reportedly got a pardon. attorney fired. >> welcome to the new way to network. they switched to juniper's a.i. native network. and now everyone's so productive they're operating at a higher gear. that's the new way to network at work with real a.i., putting you in the fast lane.

>> don't you want some more? cause i can feel your love. i can feel your love. oh. >> sometimes my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis gets in my way. but thanks to skyrizi, i'm free to bare my skin. >> clearer. i feel free to bare my skin. yeah, that's on me. nothing is everything. >> with skyrizi i saw dramatically clearer skin. and many people were 100% plaque free. skyrizi is just four doses a year after two starter doses. >> don't use if allergic. serious allergic reactions, increased infections, or lower ability to fight them may occur before treatment. get checked for infections and tb. tell your doctor about any flu like symptoms or vaccines. >> and we go hand in hand. nothing on my skin. that's my

new plan. nothing is. everything now's the time. >> ask your doctor about skyrizi, the number one dermatologist prescribed biologic in psoriasis. learn how abbvie could help you save. >> gold bond believes touch says everything it says. i got you and i'm never letting go, ever. gold bond get in touch with irresistibly touchable skin. >> safe repair safelite replace. >> nobody likes. >> a cracked windshield ha! but at least you can go to safelite. com and schedule a fix in minutes. >> can't confirm. very easy. >> safelite can come to you for free and our highly trained techs can replace your windshield right at your home. >> safelite repair safelite replace. >> go to safelite.com and schedule a replacement today. >> our restaurant's been in

business for 17 years. american technology and innovation are a part of everything we do. from helping us attract new customers to facilitating deliveries through websites and apps, i'm really excited about what artificial intelligence can do for small businesses like ours. this game changing technology can make us smarter and more efficient. advancing open source a.i. will make our economy and main street stronger. our leaders in washington need to protect our competitive edge. >> scout is protected. >> by simparica. >> trio, and he's in. >> it to win it. simparica trio. >> is. >> the first to with triple protection o fleas and ticks. intestinal worms. heartworm disease. no problem with simparica trio. this drug class has been associated with neurologic adverse reactions, including seiz

>> welcome back. >> have i got news for you? news saturday on cnn. >> tonight, house republicans delivering a budget battle victory for president trump, passing the stopgap bill that will keep the government open. now the senate must pass it to, of course, avoid a government shutdown. almost every house republican voted in favor of it. that is, except one kentucky congressman thomas massie, a budget hardliner who wanted the funding bill to cut more spending. now that has trump fuming, he's calling massie a, quote, grandstander and threatening to fund a primary challenge against massie. now, trump has actually targeted massie before, but he failed. that may be why massie is brushing off trump's threats tonight. >> i think the comments were put out there to keep other republicans in line. i don't think they were meant to change my vote because they know they can't change my vote. they don't even call me. >> but he called you a

grandstander. >> that's an upgrade. last time he called me a third rate grandstander. so i've. i've no longer have that qualifier. i'm just a grandstander. according to him kind of an upgrade with me now, a man who knows what it's like to draw the ire of the president, former congressman mo brooks, a republican from alabama. >> trump, as you recall, rescinded his endorsement of brooks during the 2022 senate race. congressman, thank you for joining us. why would trump start this fight again? i mean, is congressman massie right? is trump sending a warning to any republicans who will try to cross him? >> well, let me give a little bit of background. i know president trump personally for a good number of years. know thomas massie personally for a good number of years. if we had 537 elected officials in washington, d.c., like thomas massie, a lot of the challenges that we face as a country would be solved. congressman massie is smart as a whip. he understands public policy and the cascading

effects. he's honest. he's principled. and unfortunately, we've got a president who, quite frankly, in my judgment at least, is none of those things. and so you put those two together and politically speaking, it's like gasoline and matches. and you know how donald trump likes to play with matches. >> well, you know, there it seems as though congressman massie also thinks some of his republican colleagues are playing with a kind of fire because he says they're only caring about deficits. quote, when we're in the minority, of course they're in the majority now. so are trump and republicans backing away from their commitment to cut that $1.9 trillion deficit? >> well, absolutely. but that's not new. if you go back to 2015 and 2016, president donald trump told us that he would be able to balance the budget in four years and pay off all of our debt in eight years. and instead, he racked up the worst four years of deficit, accumulated debt and

deficit well over $6 trillion of any president in history until joe biden came along and did a little bit worse. we've got a $36 trillion debt. we've got a $1.8 trillion deficit from last year over 20% of our tax revenue now is being spent on debt service, and it's only going to go up unless we get people who act like thomas massie. so is there a lot of hypocrisy in washington, dc? absolutely. if the democrats had proposed this legislation, if they'd have been in the majority, it probably would have been a unanimous republican vote against raising our debt ceiling by roughly $7.5 trillion during the trump administration. and $19 trillion over the next ten years. that's not solving the problem. that's making it worse. and we're headed to a national insolvency and bankruptcy as a result. >> i think you've identified some of the frustrations about hypocrisy from the american voters for both sides of the

aisle. i do want to turn to our conversation i just had with larry summers. i know you were watching that last segment. what did you think of his warning? an ominous one, frankly, about those tariffs. >> well, i have an economics background, too, of course, not to the same depth probably as larry summers. but everything i heard i agree with 100%. the american economy needs confidence. it needs stability. it doesn't need the kind of uncertainty that's being interjected on a regular basis. and that uncertainty causes people to freeze up. and we need people to risk money in order to create more jobs. and they're not going to do it if we keep hearing the kind of things we're hearing emanating from washington, dc. >> so do you give any credence to this, this thought that this is all part of the negotiation, the give and take, the media is reporting on it, but the give and takes of these conversations is what happens behind closed doors and how the sausage of negotiation is made. do you buy that at all? >> well, if there's consistency to it, then you can have those kind of public comments. but

we've got a president who is all over the map on a regular basis. yes. terrorists? no. terrorists? yes. terrorists. no. terrorists? yes. terrorists. no. terrorists. if you're a businessman and let's say you're in the steel or aluminum business, you're not going to expand and create the capacity to produce more aluminum and to produce more steel. in america. if you don't know what the heck the competition is going to look like a year from now, if you don't know what the tariffs are a year from now, that kind of uncertainty causes people to freeze up, and that's hurting our economy. >> you know, ukraine today, congressman agreed to a 30 day ceasefire. it put the onus on russia to agree. if that holds. does this validate trump's we call it negotiation approach. >> well, no, i don't understand the idea of all of a sudden we're in alliance with north korea and russia, which is what president trump has been doing by hurting ukraine. his foe is

an invader. russia and north korea, which has also supplied troops. so we've got to start being faithful to the kinds of commitments that america has made over the decades. and we should not be betraying not only ukraine, which has been an ally, but also western europe, which has been an ally. and it really creates another degree of uncertainty, albeit this time in national security and foreign policy matters that may encourage other aggressors to be aggressive. one thing that we should have learned about from history is don't ever encourage an aggressor. don't ever appease neville chamberlain. how well did that work with adolf hitler and nazi germany? not well at all. yet that seems to be the strategy. i couldn't believe it when marco rubio and the president have been saying, along with jd vance, ukraine, you've got to surrender in whole or in part, the in part being you've got to give up land to the invader. that's just going to encourage that invader and other potential invaders to

invade more. that's bad policy. >> former congressman mo brooks, thank you for joining. >> my pleasure. thank you. >> up next, she refused to recommend mel gibson be allowed to buy a gun. and she says the doj fired her because of it. you know, tonight she's speaking out. >> i said to a colleague, i really think that mel gibson might be my downfall. and within hours of of saying that i was being escorted out of my office. >> plus new surveillance video emerges showing a missing u.s. college student just hours before she vanished in the dominican republic. >> touches of black. >> they say a lot without having to say much. they stand for. >> elegance, refinement and.

>> prestige, even a little. can go a long way. and though they're darker than the darkest night, they make you see everything in a new light. the kia x-line nightfall collection. >> kia movement. >> that inspires. >> keir starmer. brad schimel. >> mark warner. >> to all. >> those who never give a. >> second thought. >> to being the first ones in. thank you. servpro. proud supporter of our nation's first responders. >> if you have. >> heart failure. >> or chronic kidney disease. >> vasagar can help you keep living life because there are places you'd like to. >> be.

>> serious side effects include increased ketones in blood or urine and bacterial infection between the and genitals, both of which may be fatal. severe allergic reactions. dehydration, urinary tract or genital yeast infections, and low blood sugar. stop taking and tell your doctor right away if you have nausea, vomiting, stomach pain, tiredness, rash, swelling, trouble breathing, or swallowing. tell your doctor about lightheadedness, weakness, fever, pain, tenderness, redness or swelling between the and genitals. ask your doctor about vasikka today. if you have generalized. >> myasthenia gravis. >> picture what life could look like with. >> a subcutaneous. >> injection that takes about 30 to 90s. for one thing, could it mean more time for you can improve daily abilities and reduce muscle weakness with a treatment plan that's personalized to you. do not use vive titulo if you have a serious allergy to any of its

ingredients. it can cause serious allergic reactions like trouble breathing and decrease in blood pressure, leading to fainting and allergic reactions such as rashes, swelling under the skin, shortness of breath, and hives. the most common side effects are respiratory and urinary tract infections, headache, and injection site reactions. it may increase the risk of infusion related reactions and infection. tell your doctor if you have a history of infections or symptoms of an infection. talk to your neurologist about titulo for gmmg and picture your life in motion. >> you know what you don't see in psoriasis commercials. cut the thousands of real people who go undiagnosed. people whose psoriasis can look very different depending on their skin tone. as the makers of tremfya, we understand that everybody's moderate to severe plaque psoriasis doesn't look the same. so we undertook a first of its kind study of plaque psoriasis in every skin tone. like hers and his and

yours. >> serious allergic reactions. >> and increased risk of infections may. >> occur before treatment. >> your doctor should check you for infections and tb. tell your doctor if you have an infection, flu-like symptoms, or if you need a vaccine. >> ask your dermatologist about tremfya. >> an msc. >> cruise isn't. >> just a vacation, it's a. >> holiday full of european. >> style and all the things americans love to come on bloom. >> there are a ton of football. >> matches. >> games, football games. are you ready for some adrenaline? i was born ready. >> how high is that? so high. >> privacy. >> privacy. >> gelato. >> froyo. architecture. architecture. >> that is a big hat. >> it's american, of course it's big. >> what a vacation. >> don't you mean holiday? my bad. we should stop now. >> yeah. >> i'm doctor sanjay gupta in atlanta, and this is cnn. >> mel gibson's gun. that's why

the u.s. pardon attorney was fired. at least according to her. two weeks ago, liz oyer was tasked with vetting a list of people convicted of crimes to see if their gun rights should be restored. an unusual assignment for her. but she proceeded nonetheless. her office came up with an initial group of 95 people that she thought were worthy of considering. and then came the request. she says that she was asked to add mel gibson to the memo here. she told cnn's kaitlan collins about that tonight. >> i was unable to fulfill the request because i did not have enough information about mr. gibson to be able to recommend that, given his history of domestic violence, he should receive his gun rights back. >> now, gibson lost his gun rights after he pled no contest to a domestic violence charge back in 2011. under federal law, someone convicted of a crime like domestic violence is prohibited from buying or owning a handgun. i want to bring in the reporter who got the scoop

first. justice and fbi reporter for the new york times. devlin barrett. i'm glad to call you, mr. scoop. at this point in time she says that she wasn't given a reason for her firing. there were others, as you know, in doj, who were fired even on friday alone. why does she believe mel gibson's gun case is ultimately why she was let go? >> well, as this played out. she became more afraid. >> that she was going to be fired over this because in part because people keep getting fired, demoted, reassigned in the justice department, senior attorneys like her, senior officials like her. and there's there's a bit of a climate of fear and a bit of a climate of uncertainty, that anything you do to disagree with the political leadership might lead to your demotion or firing. so that's sort of the context in which all this was happening. and then within hours of her saying no a second time, you know, two security guards showed up at her office with a letter saying she was fired. >> i want to play more from her

interview with kaitlan collins. listen. >> dissent within the department of justice is just being aggressively silenced. people are afraid to speak up. they're afraid to object. i confided in a colleague who expressed the view that yes is really the only acceptable answer to requests that are being made by department leadership. and so i understood that the consequences were potentially serious for my career at the department of justice. >> you covered the doj. does this mean that that, yes, is the only response and loyalty the criteria? >> well, look, there's a memo that the attorney general has sent out that basically says you must comply with anything we say. you know, there's there's a long tradition and culture within the justice department. if a lawyer feels very strongly that something is not the right thing to do, they can pull their name, they can not be involved in it. >> also. >> you want to hear that if you're the if you are a member of the doj, if there is some consternation or reason not to go forward, that's very much

part of your duty to talk about that. >> and i have heard from many people inside the department now who say that they are afraid to disagree. they are afraid to say anything that might get them sideways with the political leadership. for the example shown here today, which is that, you know, they could get fired or demoted. >> that sounds like lady justice is no longer blindfolded. then in that respect. in a statement, deputy attorney general todd blanche had this to say. this former employees version of events is false. her decision to voice this erroneous accusation about her dismissal is in direct violation of her ethical duties as an attorney, and is a shameful distraction from our critical mission to prosecute violent crime and enforce our nation's immigration laws and make america safe again. but you you actually corroborate her story with multiple people, right? >> so her account is very clear. and there are people inside the justice department who confirm what happened. the way she said it happened. the big question here, obviously, is she was not given a reason for her firing.

so the big sort of like tension point here is, was she fired because of this or was she fired while this was happening? and the people who have fired her say that's not why we fired her. but obviously when you're in the process of firing lots of people there's reason to, to, to obviously question the reason every time someone new gets fired or demoted or reassigned. >> the plot thickens. look forward to reading your next scoop. devlin, thank you so much for joining. all right. so there's a very important court hearing set for tomorrow in new york that i want to point out. it's for mahmoud khalil. he is the green card holding palestinian activist facing deportation over those anti-israel protests at columbia. here's what the white house press secretary said today this is an individual. >> who organized group protests that not only disrupted college campus classes and harassed jewish american students and made them feel unsafe on their

own college campus, but also distributed pro-hamas propaganda fliers with the logo of hamas. >> now, his attorney says her client did nothing illegal. and that leads us to a new segment we're calling. can they do that specifically? can the administration deport green card holder mahmoud khalil? we'll get some more answers about that. the hearing tomorrow. but here's the short answer for now. theoretically, yes, provided there is a legitimate basis under the statutes. now, i.c.e. has not publicly provided an explanation or a statutory basis as of yet, but the white house today said it's relying on a particular provision of the immigration and nationality act that says that a green card holder can be deported if the secretary of state has reasonable grounds to believe that a person would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the united states, that determination appears to be wholly subjective as to how one

defines such consequences, or whether one's behavior rises to that level. courts are often reluctant to second guess any determination of foreign policy, and are likely to defer to a secretary's determination. and while the supreme court has held that constitutional rights can extend to even non-citizens, the powers that the executive holds over issues of immigration and foreign policy could significantly impact those rights. there's a lot we don't yet know to even evaluate whether a subjective determination, this particular green card holder presents such consequences, but we have questions like what specifically did he do during the protests that would rise to that bar? the administration suggests that he has led activities aligned to hamas. what does that mean? and is it specific enough? remember saying anti-semitic things about israel, handing out fliers is not on its face, illegal, given the first amendment. courts have also found that green card holders can be free from deportation based on speech

alone. can the government, though, prove that their interests overrides even that? will a court defer or challenge? you can bet there's going to be a lot of appeals, a lot of hearings on this very issue. already. they're wrangling over whether courts in new york or louisiana, where he's being held, should handle this case. and nine supreme court justices may indeed already be expecting to weigh in ultimately. but the bottom line, based on what we know presently, yes, even with some legitimate free speech concerns having been raised, it is entirely legally possible for courts to extend deference to a secretary of state's determination that deportation may be appropriate, but will they? ahead. this is the last known image of a university of pittsburgh student before she vanished in the dominican republic. was it a tragic accident or something far more nefarious? the latest on the

investigation is next. >> i have an important question. >> are you hungry? i'm hungry. >> perfect. >> 11 generations ago. >> one of my ancestors left spain for the new world and a new life. 400 years later, i'm back. i'm so excited. hola familia. this is cuisine at a different level. >> is the best place to be a chef. >> oh my god, we have found spain. >> eva longoria searching for spain april 27th on cnn. >> i have type two diabetes, but i manage it well. it's a little pill with a big story to tell. i take once daily jardiance at each day start. as time went on, it was easy to see. i'm lowering my a-1c. and for adults with type two diabetes and known heart disease. jardiance can lower the risk of cardiovascular

death. >> two serious side effects include increased. >> ketones in blood or urine, which can be fatal. >> stop jardiance. >> and call your doctor right away if you have nausea, vomiting, stomach pain, tiredness, trouble breathing, or increased ketones. jardiance may cause dehydration that can suddenly worsen kidney function and make you feel dizzy, lightheaded, or weak upon standing. genital yeast infections in men and women. urinary tract infections, low blood sugar, or a rare, life threatening bacterial infection between and around the and genitals can occur. call your doctor right away if you have fever or feel weak or tired and pain, tenderness, swelling or redness in the genital area. don't use if allergic to jardiance stop use if you have a serious allergic reaction, call your doctor. if you have rash, swelling, difficulty breathing, or swallowing, you may have increased risk for lower limb loss. call your doctor right away if you have new pain or tenderness, sores, ulcers, or infection in your legs or feet. >> jardiance is really swelled. the little pill with a big story to tell. >> look out, cause. >> here i have. >> you always had trouble with your weight. me to. >> discover the power of. >> wegovy with wegovy.

>> i lost. >> 35 pounds. >> and some lost. over 46 pounds. >> and i'm keeping the weight off. >> i'm reducing my risk. >> wegovy is. >> the only weight management medicine proven to reduce risk of major cardiovascular events such as death, heart attack or stroke in adults with known heart disease and obesity. >> don't use wegovy with semaglutide or glp one medicines, or in children under 12. don't take if you or your family had mtc men2 or if allergic to it. >> tell your provider. >> if you plan to have. >> surgery or. >> a procedure. >> are. >> breastfeeding, pregnant, or plan to be. stop taking and get medical help right away. if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, or any of these allergic reactions, serious side effects may include pancreas inflammation and gallbladder or severe stomach problems. call your prescriber if you have any of these symptoms. wegovy may cause low blood sugar in people with diabetes, especially if you take medicines to treat diabetes. call your prescriber about vision changes. if you feel your heart racing while at rest, or if you have mental changes, depression or thoughts of

suicide may occur. common side effects include nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, constipation, stomach pain, flu or upset headache, feeling tired, dizzy or bloated, gas, and heartburn. some side effects lead to dehydration, which may cause kidney problems. >> with wegovy. >> i'm losing weight. our xfinity network is built for streaming all the stuff people love. how can it get any better? -i'm just spitballin' here, but, what if we offer people apple tv+, netflix and peacock? for one low monthly price. -yes. so, people could stream the shows they love. and we could call it... xfinity streamsaver! mmmmm. what about something like: streamsaver? ooooooo. -i love that. add streamsaver with apple tv+, netflix and peacock included for only $15 a month... and stream all your favorite entertainment, all in one place.

anyway. >> five grams of sugar. pass me one. no i can't, i'm just a voice. >> united states of scandal with jake tapper sunday at nine on cnn. >> closed captioning is brought to you by skechers. hands free. slip in footwear. >> hi, i'm howie mandel, the newest ambassador for skechers. >> i went to the store. >> to buy hands free skechers slip ins, and i said i was an ambassador. the owner called me and i said yes. skechers slip. >> ins rahel solomon. >> tonight, new information on the disappearance of a university of pittsburgh student while on vacation in the dominican republic. cnn obtained the last known images of sudiksha konanki surveillance video shows her and a group of friends leaving the hotel lobby and walking towards the beach.

at approximately 4:15 a.m. on thursday. an additional image from another security camera shows the group walking the property around the same time. what happened after that? well, at approximately 4:55 a.m., six people left the beach, but konanki and one other man were not with them. that man is now being kept in a hotel room under police watch. but a source familiar with the investigation tells cnn he is not officially detained. and another source tells cnn the man is not considered a suspect at this time. here to discuss former senior fbi profiler mary ellen o'toole. among her many cases is the natalee holloway disappearance in aruba in 2005. mary ellen, thank you for joining. i need your expertise because it's been five days since sudiksha was last seen. are you concerned with how little we still know about what might have happened? >> it is really very concerning

that we know so little about her, and we know very little about really what's being done, other than the things that we read in the newspaper about the searches and the dogs and the drones and so forth. so at this point, i'm really, frankly, if this case had occurred in the united states, because we unfortunately see a number of these cases, there would have been a lot more work done, at least from my perspective. for example, we would have been developing a very thorough victimology on this young woman to understand what her personality is like and if any of her behavior like what we saw on that videotape, was that out of character for her? because that can give us a lot of insight into what would cause her to hook up with someone she just met, and he looks like he's almost pulling her down that walkway so that victimology would give us a much better understanding. could she have possibly been drugged? so we don't see that happening in

this case? >> and i'm assuming when you use the term hookup, you mean that she is connected in some way? we don't know the circumstances of their interaction in any way, mary ellen, but that's part of the questions people have. i mean, her own father is asking authorities to widen their investigation to kidnaping or human trafficking. i mean, there are more than 300 people currently involved in the search. where should their focus be outside of the victimology profile? >> well, you have to have parallel courses of investigation. you can't just do one course and look at it. was a stranger or someone she met there. at that facility. at that hotel. you have to also be looking at. could it have been an accident? but both have to be done at the same time, and then you start bringing in the experts that can pursue each separate line of investigation. if you do one and then try to finish that and then later start up another one, you can see how

you can lose a lot of valuable information and physical evidence and so forth. so it has to be parallel tracks. >> mary ellen, could you describe the information sharing you would expect between our own fbi and the dominican authorities? >> it would be limited. and the reason that i say that is, and i think a lot of people don't understand this. when you go to a foreign country and something happens to you, you get hurt, you you get attacked, you get arrested. the fbi has no jurisdiction in your case. we can't come in and take over the the investigation. we can't call the shots. we don't even do the interviews. when i went down for the natalee holloway case, it was my case. i just stood and watched as they conducted the interviews. so we're really in kind of in more of an assistant mode in these kinds of cases. and so what's being done? the hands on work is actually being done by the authorities there. the other thing i think is

really important, people tend to think the fbi will come down in mass and that we will have a large presence. that's not true at all. there are very few fbi agents that are likely on the ground. if this happened in the united states, i can promise you we'd probably have upwards of 100 fbi agents. we'd have the state police. we've had the county police. but in this case, you just don't have that expertise. and that's unfortunate. >> it's extremely especially for a family who they want her home. they want to know where she is and what has happened. and here's some of what we do know about sudiksha. she's a 20 year old student, a junior at the university of pittsburgh, described by her family as bright, as ambitious, studying to become a doctor. from your experience, how important are those kinds of details to the investigation? >> oh, they're critically important because they give us a picture of who this young woman is. and the first time a case comes across my desk, the first

thing that i do is to develop the victimology. who is this person? what is their personality? and why were they? why were they selected? why were they targeted? why did they become the victim, either of an accident or of a violent crime? and and if you have someone that's acting out of character, as i did see in the natalee holloway case, what would account for that? what would explain that? so understanding the victim, it is through the victim that we know more about the offender. if it is a violent crime, if it's an accident, the same is true. we've heard nothing about whether or not she can even swim. so victimology is critical in this >> for watching anderson cooper 360 is next. >> tonight on 36