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the consumer price index shows annual inflation at 2.8%, the first time it has slowed in some four months. and that progress may be short lived, as president trump escalates his trade wars overnight. a 25% tariff went into effect on all steel and aluminum imported into the united states. for americans, that could drive up prices on things like cars and appliances. on wall street, the dow opened stronger, going up more than 200 points. but now a retreat. the dow down about 100 points, as you can see. let's go live now to cnn business and politics correspondent vanessa yurkevich watching all of this in new york for us. vanessa, let's begin with this new report on inflation here in the united states. what's the headline? >> well, this is welcome news for consumers, for consumers. prices in february fell for the first time in four months. prices in february month over month increased about 0.2%. and on an annual basis, 2.8%. so that's encouraging news for

consumers. we saw in this report that shelter that is rent made up half of all increases in the report. but we did see decreases on things like gas and also airline fares. good news for consumers on that front. also, we were watching food prices very, very closely. food ticking up 0.2%. and we were watching eggs wolf again, 10.8%. that's the increase, excuse me, 10.4%. that's the increase on the monthly basis alone. but markets this morning, reacting to the news at last check they were mixed. the dow was up 200 points on this inflation news. but investors quickly forgot about that and then turned their attention to this trade war. now this global trade war after a 25% tariff went into effect on aluminum and steel coming in from countries around the world and the eu responding very quickly with their own retaliatory tariffs on $28 billion worth of goods. we are waiting, though, wolf, on

retaliatory tariffs that will be announced, presumably by other countries. we will see what that means for u.s. consumers and markets who have been it's been very volatile for them in the last two days. right now, a mixed picture. but the day is young wolf. >> still very young vanessa yurkevich in new york for us. thank you. i want to get some reaction from the white house right now. cnn reporter alayna treene is on the north lawn of the white house. joining us right now. what are you hearing, elena? >> well, look, wolf, i think one, it's very clear that the president and those around him talking about these tariffs are continuing to dig in. yesterday when the president addressed the business roundtable, he continued to argue that he believes tariff policy is good policy. he said that it's needed to rebuild the country. but what he didn't do, and this is something i've been picking up in my conversations with people on both ends of pennsylvania avenue and, you know, obviously wall street as well, in light of the stock market falling for two days straight is people are really starting to question have greater concerns over what the president's grand plan is here,

what is the strategy? and some people were hoping to hear some of that reassurance last night. but this is what one person told cnn. they said, quote, there was no new clarity or certainty that the president gave them when he was speaking to them. another thing to keep in mind as well is how much the president is actually views these negotiations as whiplash. that's something i've been told. we've seen him, you know, the start and go kind of especially what we saw with canada yesterday. he said he was going to raise tariffs 25% again. on top of that, raise those tariffs on steel and aluminum from canada into the u.s. at 50%. he did not do that. i'm told that is all part of the broader negotiation. and of course, he does view these tariffs as a key negotiating tool, wolf. >> alayna treene at the white house for us, elena, thank you very, very much. let's discuss what's going on with the economist natasha sarin. she's a professor at the yale law school and a former treasury official during the biden administration. natasha, thanks very much for joining us. can you break down what this really means? the cpi numbers, consumer price index

numbers that came in this morning? >> yeah. so i think the way you can kind of interpret these numbers is they're relatively good news. inflation came down a tick cooler than expectations. but it is still quite high year over year. we're talking about a 2.8% increase in prices. so that's significant. and it's significantly away from where the federal reserve would like to be, which is closer to a 2% inflation target. and importantly, what this data doesn't have within it is the impact of trump's escalation of these trade wars and these tariff policies, which are certainly going to be incredibly inflationary for the american people. >> because a lot of people are really worried about this trade war that president trump has launched against close allies, including canada and mexico, for that matter. at the end of the month, the european union is set to impose counter-tariffs against the united states. $28 billion worth of u.s. goods. what's going to be the impact of that? >> so in reality, what tariffs mean or they mean a tax increase for the american people. that's like plain and simple. and work that i've done at the budget

lab at yale with some of my colleagues, suggest that the result of these canada, mexico and china tariffs that the administration has already proposed is going to be an increase of around $1,600 in prices for the average american family each year. so this is a significant price increase, and it's a significant uptick in inflation at a moment where we haven't already gotten to the last mile with the last inflation that we saw around the pandemic. >> because president trump keeps saying he wants to reduce taxes for the american people. what you're effectively saying is that these tariffs are going to raise taxes for the american people. >> absolutely. it's kind of the exact opposite. he's saying he wants a pro-growth agenda and an agenda that's focused on allowing businesses to invest in america and cutting taxes for the american people. the reality of this trade war and these tariff policies is that they're doing the reverse. they're causing taxes to increase, and they're creating a ton of uncertainty for businesses looking to invest in this country. >> i'll get your reaction, natasha, to what the commerce secretary howard lutnick just said on fox business. listen to

this. >> nothing's going to stop that until we've got a big, strong domestic steel and aluminum capability. and by the way, he's going to add copper to that mix, too. so just remember, national security rises above all other things. people get lost in this stuff. we must have steel and aluminum. we must have semiconductors. we need to have cars and automobiles. we need to make these things in america. >> what do you think? >> so listen, if we were having a conversation about tariffs in particular sectors against particular countries, acknowledging the china threat is very real, i would be happy to have that conversation. and i think many economists would as well. the reality is the idea of broad based tariffs, 25% tariffs on canada, our ally in the name of fentanyl like it is hard to square with that kind of national security rationale. >> very tiny percentage of the fentanyl comes in from canada. >> less than 1%. right. so it's clearly not about that. and so

it's hard in some sense to understand what i teach my students. i teach finance and we talk a lot about like what rationale for policy might be and what the administration might be trying to accomplish here. it's frankly hard for me to understand what the objectives are, but it's very clear what the reality is going to be. it's going to be higher prices for the american people and a less secure world with the americans. so, insular, so isolated relative to our foreign counterparts. >> natasha, thanks very much. natasha sarin of yale law school. right. >> thank you so much for having me. >> well, we'll have you back. thank you very, very much. also today up on capitol hill, the senate minority leader, chuck schumer, and his fellow democrats will take a closer look to try to chart their path forward to avoid a federal government shutdown after the house of representatives narrowly passed the republicans spending bill yesterday. let's go live to cnn's chief congressional correspondent, manu raju, up on capitol hill. manu, so where do things stand in the senate right now? because this is critical. >> yeah. senate democrats are

torn about what to do here because their votes will be essential in order to see whether this bill can actually become law, because in the united states senate, you need 60 votes to overcome any filibuster attempt. and there are 53 republican seats. we expect at least one republican vote. no. that means we'll have at least eight democrats need to vote to advance this plan. but there's a problem. democrats have been trashing this proposal for days. they are concerned about the spending cuts. they're concerned about how it does not rein in donald trump or elon musk, or the efforts to purge the federal workforce. and they want some provisions in there that the republicans have essentially ignored. so now the question is this do they vote to block this bill and leading to a government shutdown, or do they vote to allow this to go forward and enact a plan into law to avert a shutdown, even though they are very concerned about the contents of this proposal? and in talking to democrats in both chambers in the house and the senate, many are calling on their members to hold the line, particularly progressives in the house who are warning about a backlash to senate democrats if they capitulate to the gop

demands. >> they should refuse to allow this bill to pass in the senate. >> if they don't. >> i think there's going to be huge backlash from across the country. and i think all of them will, you know, will have to deal with the consequences of that. the republicans. >> have the white house, the senate and the house if they want to do this and if they want to screw over the american people, they can do this with their votes and their party. i do not believe that democrats should participate. >> but some democrats may very well participate, wolf. some of them are more concerned about a long term potential long term government shutdown, which is why they may supply the votes at the end of the day. and the timing is critical, wolf. 11:59 p.m. friday night is the deadline for the congress to pass a bill to avert a government shutdown today. this afternoon, senate democrats will huddle over lunch with chuck schumer, the minority leader, to decide how to proceed here. we'll see if they have a decision after that critical

meeting. >> yeah, it's a critical decision for the democrats to make. the republicans need the democrats in this specific piece of legislation in order to get the house version passed and the impact on the american public could be enormous if the federal government shuts down, including a lot of people not only losing their jobs, but being being harmed, you know, harnessed with enormous problems without a federal government backing manu raju up on the hill. thanks very much. i want to stay on the hill right now. the next fight for the house speaker, mike johnson, is to pass a budget bill with sweeping cuts, and he's now laying out his priorities for that huge measure. let's go live to cnn congressional correspondent lauren fox. she's up on capitol hill for us as well. lauren, the speaker has a very ambitious timetable for his budget plan. what's his strategy? >> yeah, wolf, the speaker has laid out this really ambitious timeline. and in some ways, it's not completely under his control to decide. if you remember the house of representatives, they already

passed their budget blueprint with a lot of strong arming, with a lot of help from donald trump. they got it across the finish line. but now, because the house and senate have very different budget blueprints, a lot of questions remain about whether or not the senate is going to move as quickly as johnson is hoping. here's what he said we've got to do it sooner. >> we've got to do it early in the year. and that's why i put this on a very aggressive timetable, trying to get it done by late spring, because that will bring real certainty and i think calm to everybody about what their tax rates are going to be for the foreseeable future and, and how we're going to settle this out. we bring down federal spending dramatically, which we're aiming to do. that will help as well. >> i think the question that a lot of folks have is if you're not able to accomplish it as quickly as you want, what happens then? >> well, look, i have to i have to have cheerful persistence here every day, okay? that's what i do, is pushing everybody to action, making, making it happen. they always underestimate us, but we always get the job done.

>> and one of the biggest challenges is squaring the spending cuts that the house wants to have, which is somewhere between 1.5 trillion and $2 trillion. that is such a huge number and something that has a lot of senate republicans uncomfortable right now. the question becomes, when is the senate going to move on a budget proposal that looks more similar to this house proposal right now? that timeline is not clear, wolf. >> all right. lot isn't clear right now. lauren fox reporting from capitol hill. thank you. still ahead, the measles outbreak in west texas is growing and growing. and experts are worrying that more people are infected than what's being reported. also coming up next, on the verge of a cease fire, i'll ask congressman jason crow if the trump administration will get russia behind the plan to stop the war with ukraine and keep vladimir putin to his word. stay with us. you're in the situation room. >> the united states of scandal

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>> but the kremlin has yet to accept that proposal and wants to hear from u.s. officials first talks. secretary marco says will come later today. joining us now for more on what's going on. colorado democratic congressman jason crow. he serves on both the house intelligence and armed services committees. congressman, thanks so much for joining us. secretary rubio says the ball is now in russian president vladimir putin's court. how does this administration get russia to agree to a deal? that's one thing. but then to honor it down the road. >> well, let's make no mistake. this is a ball that's in vladimir putin's court, as it has been from day one of this war. it is his responsibility. he and he alone bears responsibility for the invasion. he's the one who made the decision. he continues his relentless assault against the ukrainian people. innocent civilians, women, children, families kidnaping tens of thousands of innocent ukrainian children and taking them to

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>> so, congressman, how does this square with what we saw in that tense oval office meeting a couple of weeks ago between these two leaders? >> well, i want a deal. i want a ceasefire, and i want a peace agreement that is favorable to the united states and ukraine to end this war. ultimately, this war will end at a negotiating table. i firmly believe that. but the damage that the trump administration has already done to our international reputation, to our alliances, to our credibility around the world has already been done and continues to be done with canada, with mexico, with so many other countries of which we are trade partners, we are security partners. the way that they continue to treat our friends is frankly appalling, and we are losing credibility. i sit on the armed services committee, the intelligence committee, i travel the world. i meet with our partners, our allies. i visit our troops around the world, and people are looking at us and saying, what is happening to america? and what is donald trump and jd vance and others doing to this country? >> congressman, while i have

you, i want to turn to another critical ceasefire. the u.s. special envoy, steve witkoff is in doha, qatar, right now for talks between israel and hamas. what needs to happen to secure a second phase of the hostage and ceasefire deal involving the israelis and hamas in gaza? >> well, hamas needs to release the hostages. you know, that is that is the critical next step. there's no doubt about it. they can't keep these hostages. they have to let these innocent folks go and return them in the bodies of those who are deceased as well. and listen, i believe hamas is a terrorist organization. it has to be removed from the battlefield. it cannot exist because they victimize the palestinian people too. so we have to create a security environment that's going to require engagement with the rest of the arab world right now. so the united states, israel, but dozens of other countries in the region have to step up, including the egyptians and the jordanians, who are going to be essential to getting

us on the path to a security environment and a rebuilding of the region for for long term peace. >> and another extremely important and very sensitive issue. while i have you, congressman, i know you've been a vocal critic about how harmful eliminating the federal department of education would be. what are you hearing from your constituents following yesterday's announcement that the department will begin by laying off even before the trump administration destroys the department of education, they're going to begin with laying off half of its staff, thousands of education department officials. >> well, i believe in government reform, and i believe there are a lot of places where we can find inefficiency and we can make government work better for people. and i've pushed for years on that front. but to take a sledgehammer to agencies that provide critical aid for rural communities to underserved underprivileged communities, to hungry children is going to do damage that can't be repaired,

right. the approach of elon musk and others of, oh, we're just going to take a broad swath of cuts and then we'll see what works. we'll see what doesn't work, and then we'll fix the things that does not work. you can't do that when you're dealing with people's homes, when you're dealing with food, when you're dealing with people's livelihoods, when you're dealing with their prescription medications, because damage will be done to these people's lives. in some cases, their actual life that can't be fixed later on. that's simply just not how government works. >> congressman jason crow, as usual, thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you wolf. >> up next, tesla commercial over at the white house. i'll ask congressman ryan zinke if he's concerned about elon musk's influence and potential conflicts of interest welcome back. >> have i got news for you? news saturday on. >> cnn. >> hi. glad everyone's here. let's get started.

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and the white house. so why would the democrats be to blame? >> well, in the house side, it's a majority. so we pass it out. and on the senate side, it will take 60 votes. that means you're going to. >> have to have a filibuster. >> absolutely. so they're going to need some democrat help. and as a republican or a democrat, well, if you vote for a government shutdown, i guess you're going to own it. and i would say agnes king, you know, a good friend. he's a senator from from maine, i think, expresses it best from the democratic point of view. he said, look, they don't like the cr. they don't like the that part of the bill. >> but the continuing. >> resolution, continuing resolution and this bill. but i can tell you a government shutdown is worse. so i think the huddle is going to be pretty short. i think it will pass out of the senate. and look, i've dealt with a government shutdown. it is not pretty. and oftentimes it hurts people that are vulnerable. that shouldn't be hurt. they're not politics. they just want to go go to work. and a government shutdown also gives the administration some latitude on determining what's

critical and essential. if, for instance, a oupaychecks for our military, they could be set aside where military would be uncertain and so could our our border patrol agents. >> a lot of democrats say, you know what? let's pass a 30 day continuing resolution, a temporary measure. and in the process of those 30 days, have democrats sit down with the republicans and work out a fair and equitable compromise. republicans are opposing that, at least for now. >> you know, i'm open for the appropriation process. you know, the reason why we're in a cr is the house and the senate could not pass the appropriations on the house side. we passed all 12 out of committee, eight out of the house. the senate was at zero. so i am absolutely for article one, section nine of the constitution that's passed the appropriation process. and there's an opportunity, just because we have a continuing resolution doesn't mean we we will give up on appropriations. i think if both sides come together with reasonable plans,

there's room there. >> you know what's very worrisome to me, and i'm sure to a lot of other folks out there right now are the trump administration's proposed cuts to the department of education. i mean, what's more important for kids than education, education, education, education. and not only do they want to fire thousands of employees, officials at the department of education, but trump wants to completely eliminate the department of education. do you agree with him? >> well, he's he's not asking for elimination of programs. he's he's asking for elimination and a redistribution of who actually does that. i think the states are in a better position. there are some roles and missions, though, that have to be maintained federally. but i think as far as administrating and bringing the decisions, i think they should go further to the states. >> the states don't necessarily have all the money that the federal government has to implement those kinds of programs that help poor kids, sick kids and others get the education they need. >> that's right. but no one's talking about eliminating programs. they're eliminating the people and who can

administrate them through block grants. >> if the people are fired, they can't implement the programs. >> well, montanans can certainly. and cross-deck those responsibilities. if you look at montana, for instance, a rural state, oftentimes what's concocted in washington, d.c., when it goes out to montana doesn't exactly fit. so in a lot of cases, the states are better for administering the programs. no one is talking about cutting title one or title nine or title ten. it's about who who's best to deliver the funds. and i think montana or. >> let me just be precise, do you support eliminating destroying the department of education? >> i support the transfer of funds going to the states where they could be administered, administered, i think in a better way. >> so is that a yes? >> yeah, yeah. if if it means reconstructing. education and across the board, you know, you look at the cuts or cuts

>> did i stopped eliminate? well, i stopped the grants similar, but on a smaller scale. what's happening now, but the tools i didn't it's not my first rodeo. >> so i've been in the secretary of the interior. even you didn't have the tool to eliminate waste, fraud and abuse. i didn't have the tools to look and find the detail. and this is what doge said. you love them or like them or love to hate him. he brought in a team u.s. treasury employees, by the way, that were able to look not only in the files, but the details of the files. and that's what most of the press is about. some programs are really good. i think the good programs will stay. the ones that are on the fence will be scrutinized, and the bad

programs will go away. but the amount of abuse, according to mr. musk. and again, they have to be confirmed, is or is around $1 trillion. what we see is now we're in the exposing phase. the next phase is let's confirm because there's a difference between saying a program is wasteful and making sure you go down the weeds and determine that it actually is. and then those have to be quantified. and then congress has to take action. >> congressman ryan zinke of montana, a great state indeed. thanks very much for joining us. >> great to be with you, wolf. >> appreciate it very much. just ahead, there's breaking news coming into the situation room canada just announcing retaliatory tariffs against the united states. the items impact could affect you. stay with us. we'll be right back. >> united states of scandal with jake tapper sunday at 9:00 on cnn. >> still congested? nope. oh. >> mucinex 2 in 1. saline nasal

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>> ambassador to canada and the former michigan governor, james blanchard, is joining us right now here in the situation room. what's your reaction to what's going on? i mean, for me, as a kid growing up in western new york, buffalo on the border with canada, it's hard for me to believe that u.s. canadian relations are in a crisis like they are right now. >> it's really goofy stuff. it's totally unnecessary. our relations with canada today are the worst in modern history. and it's not just tariffs. it's the it's the constant insults by the white house calling that the 51st state. it's the vice president saying that in the last few decades, decades, canada has treated us very badly. we've had this fabulous partnership and alliance all my life, and it's been seriously damaged these last month and a half. >> two months, not just the tariffs, it's also the vocal, the verbal statements. when you hear the president or the vice president refer to the prime minister of canada, and you were

the u.s. ambassador to canada as a governor, as if canada is a 51st state. what do you think? >> well, it's an insult to canada. canadians find that as insulting as tariffs. the tariffs, of course, are totally unnecessary and are going to be inflationary and harmful. but yeah, i mean to say a 51st state is like saying you don't count. you're an appendage to us. no, it's everything they're doing is it appears to be designed to destroy our fabulous relationship. i'm spending more time on canadian television and radio, telling the canadians that the white house does not speak for 90% of americans, that canada is our most reliable, trusted, and best ally. it isn't just the economy and autos. i grew up in detroit or agriculture. it's cultural. it's relatives, it's tourism. it's everything. >> yeah, i mean, it's really crazy when you think about it, when you hear trump say, this isn't really a trade war that he's launched against canada,

it's a drug war that he's launched because of the illegal drugs pouring into the united states. he says, from canada. >> yeah, fentanyl, less than 1%. there probably are more drugs going north and guns going north. by the way, in terms of migrants, i think there are more people going north these days than south. this whole trade dispute is a manufactured dispute. it's made up. it's make believe. we have a manufacturing surplus with canada, by the way. we have an auto surplus with canada. the only deficit we have with canada is energy, and we want that energy. canadian natural gas heats homes in detroit. we want we have been energy self-sufficient, wolf, since the first term of barack obama. the mr. trump says we have an energy emergency. no, he may cause one. no, we're energy self-sufficient. it's growing. everything we do with canada has been a positive relationship. we're going to we're going to cut the ribbon on a new modern

bridge in detroit, the gordie howe international bridge, next fall. that is going to be a celebration of our relationship. both families and tourism. agriculture, autos, manufacturing. we have an integrated economy with canada, and we also have an integrated cultural relationship as well. >> people don't necessarily appreciate it, including people who live on the border with canada. how much electrical power, for example, emerges from canada into the united states and helps americans? and in michigan, in new york and other states as well. >> and new england, by the way, quebec. >> right. >> could shut down new england. hydro-québec. yeah, but you know one thing, too people don't realize that michigan is an agricultural state. we export billions and billions of dollars of agricultural products. >> what kind of agricultural products? >> fruits and vegetables. they're grown principally all along our western shore. it's huge. and those products go to canada and they also go

overseas. it's billions and billions. and we have again a trade surplus in agriculture with canada. the other thing i want to mention is back when our auto companies were in trouble, you and i, we've dealt with this a few times, but in 2009, when barack obama crammed down administrative bankruptcy for general motors and chrysler to help them stay alive during the financial crisis, canada also contributed to that. both ontario and the federal government. so they were there when we needed them. when 9/11 hit us, the first ambassador in nato to call our ambassador was the canadian ambassador. say, what can we do to help this is an alliance my entire life. and yours. and we cannot let the white house, mr. trump, put it asunder. we just cannot allow it. and at some point, members of the senate are going to have to stand up and say, enough is enough. >> do you think that's going to happen? >> at some point? i think it

will. but, you know, one of the problems is they're afraid to talk. >> or the republicans. >> yeah. yeah. i mean, the democrats are going to say that all day long, but they're in the minority. we are in the minority in the house and senate. but, you know, what's interesting is when mr. trump gave his speech to congress recently, he said, i brought back free speech, which is kind of a weird statement. there is no free speech with republican senators right now. they're afraid to talk. they are afraid to talk and afraid to be honest about our relations with canada or with ukraine. look at look at the cozying up to putin. this is outrageous. i was with some german diplomats the other day, and they say we just don't think we can ever rely on the word of the united states anymore. and our nato allies, as you know, are gathering together to figure out how to deal with this new reality, which is kind of on again, off again. politics. it's a, you know, the canadian people deserve better. the ukrainians deserve better. our

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>> new this morning, the measles outbreak that started in west texas is growing. it has now spread to at least three states with more than 250 confirmed cases. experts say these numbers are likely as undercount. joining us now, doctor peter hotez, co-director of the texas children's hospital center for vaccine development. he's also professor and dean of tropical medicine at baylor college of medicine. doctor hotez, as usual, thanks so much for joining us. do you expect the outbreak to continue to grow? >> yes, it will, wolf, because every every tuesday and friday we get updates and the numbers are always going up. and remember the incubation period, the time from when you're infected with the virus to you show symptoms is just under two weeks. so anytime the number goes up, you know the this epidemic keeps evergreening, meaning it will continue to rise for at least another two weeks. so this will certainly last in the minimum to the end of this

month, and likely well into the spring, unfortunately. >> what do you say to those people who are reluctant to get a vaccine to deal with with the measles? >> well, you know, this is a serious virus illness. 20% of kids typically require hospitalization, either because of measles, pneumonia or neurological symptoms, including encephalitis or deafness. ocular involvement, dehydration due to severe diarrhea. measles is a bad actor, and up until a few years ago, measles was the single leading killer of children globally. and and it it causes severe illness in adults. adults don't do well with measles, particularly pregnant women. so that's the word to get out is how awful awful this this disease is. and yet our mmr vaccine for measles, mumps rubella is one of the most effective and safest vaccines there is. >> yes it is. i want to get your reaction, doctor hotez, to what the health and human services secretary, robert f. kennedy

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would argue for healthy nutrition and exercise, but that's besides the point. the the single most important thing to do is to be vaccinated, because all the nutrition in the world and all the exercise in the world will not give you virus neutralizing antibodies against the measles virus. so that has to be the message. and so when when the secretary, you know, says things like, you know, giving vitamin a or castor oil or all of the other things he talks about, it sends the wrong message because it doesn't explain to parents the overwhelming importance of getting vaccinated. and sure, all those other things are fine as well. and measles does do worse in the setting of severe malnutrition. but but still, it still can cause serious illness and even death, even in in kids like this one unfortunately had no underlying issues. >> doctor peter hotez, as usual, thank you very much. coming up in 30 minutes, a prominent palestinian activists case heads to federal court. the first

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