the united states is. recognized as having such an important role in the peace process. and yet half the parties. >> from. >> the northern ireland government have decided. >> not to come. >> to the sympathetic state celebrations. >> they're having what? >> they haven't come over there boycotting this happy state. >> what are they boycotting? >> they are talking about your. >> position on gaza. >> as one of the reasons. >> oh, i haven't heard that. i really haven't heard that. look. >> can. >> i just say i got to pay tribute to the president on the peace initiatives. the one thing we've learned in ireland about the peace process that you've just spoken about, and i recall back in the early 90s. when the first tentative steps to get peace in ireland. people criticized people like john hume or people like albert reynolds, the then taoiseach, but they kept going. and when we got that ceasefire in 93, okay, it took a number of years to get to comprehensive peace settlement. but again, the guns more or less largely went silent. the war in ukraine is a devastating war on young people. and i think that

very simple, straightforward narrative is to be commended. and we all have children. i mean, we would be shocked at the prospect of young people losing their lives in that number. be the ukrainian, be the russian or whatever. anything we can do to stop the violence, i think is an extremely positive day, and there will be all sorts of people having qualifications on it and all the rest of it. it's our job then to work on it and to try and build it. europe, us and everything. i will. >> say, i will say and thank you for that. but i will say last week, 2500 young people died while we sit here and talk. and while they talk about peace, but they've been talking about peace, this should have never happened. this war should have never happened. it would have never happened if i was president. that's what makes me more angry than anything else. because you've had far more people die than they report, than these people report, for whatever reason. but you had far more people. the numbers are far more devastating. you'll find that out someday. and it

doesn't affect you very much. they're not irish and they're not from my country. they're from russia, mostly. almost all from russia and from ukraine. and people could say, why are you doing this? why are you involved in that? because there are 2000 people a week are dying and they have families and they have mothers and their fathers, and they have sisters and their brothers and friends, and they're dying. and i've seen the pictures, the satellite pictures that we see all the time. and it looks like gettysburg in its prime, because that was, they say, one of the most horrific battles ever. you have kids lying all over these fields that are dead because the weapons today are unbelievable. between drones and various types of guns. i'm not even talking about beyond that, with the with the big babies, you understand what i mean? i hate to even mention the name, the nuclear name. i hate to mention it, but you have weapons today that are

so powerful and i see kids every week. i see pictures of kids laying all over the field dead. they're dead. beautiful kids. they're dead. and they're not from here, and they're not from where you are. but he's working very hard. we're all working hard to get this thing finished. it's crazy over nothing, and it's not going to go anywhere. it's just a terrible situation. and i. >> think. >> and i think we have a chance to get it done. so we've. >> got our. >> we've gotten half of it as a ceasefire. and if we can get russia to stop, then we have a full cease fire. and i think it'll never go back to war. i think something. >> will. >> we've been listening to president donald trump alongside the irish taoiseach. micheal martin, inside the. >> oval office. >> at the white house. thank you so much for joining us this afternoon. i'm boris sanchez alongside brianna keilar in the nation's capital there. you just heard president trump talking about the potential for a ceasefire between russia and

ukraine that the u.s. is trying to broker. the president would not comment on a potential meeting with vladimir putin. but in his remarks, he was asked specifically if he felt that the united states would have to pressure the kremlin into accepting a ceasefire. and he said that he hopes that that would be a necessary though there are things he could do that would be unpleasant in the financial sense. so president trump there during this availability for reporters in the white house, signaling that perhaps economic sanctions may be on the way if russia were not to accept the cease fire deal. the president was also asked about cuts to the department of education on behalf of doge and about the stock market, which he says he believes is soon going to surge. >> yeah, let's. >> go to. >> jeff zeleny, who is at the white house and has been following all of this. jeff, those are some of the highlights from this oval office availability at a really crucial moment, both in negotiations with ukraine but also the president's tariff war and his

overhaul of the federal government. >> no doubt about it. this is more than just a traditional ceremonial meeting between the irish prime minister and the american president, which of course, happens every year to reinforce the long standing relationships between the united states and ireland. the reason it's happening slightly before saint patrick's day is because congress is going into recess. the members are leaving, so that is why they are doing it now. in fact, the president and the prime minister are heading to capitol hill right now for the lunch that they normally have. but underscoring and underlying all of this, about 50 minutes or so worth of questions and the situation in ukraine, no doubt has rattled european leaders. the president's decision to embolden vladimir putin certainly has, as well as has the latest round of the trade wars. this is something that has been ongoing. the president, speaking very strongly against the european union, once again, saying he thinks that their entire reason they're forming together was to, in his words, screw the united states. excuse

my language. this is something that the president has talked about a lot, but certainly it's coming to the forefront as the eu is talking about specific tariffs on kentucky bourbon, if you will. wisconsin motorcycles, harley-davidsons and many other american products. but the president went on to take a variety of questions, becoming short with reporters. at one point, when asked about the stock market. when asked about the uncertainty in the markets, he defended his decisions and he said that he needs and deserves some flexibility. so that, of course, was one of the exchanges that we had our eye on, as well as just the deal with russia. will vladimir putin now sign a cease fire? will he not? as for the sanctions you were talking about, it's an open question whether these economic sanctions actually can be more done on that front, because they're basically for the last three years or so, the trade has all but evaporated and dried up between russia and the united states. so sanctions, it's

unclear if that actually would have much more of an effect. but there's no doubt the wide ranging conversation here talked about really the underlying relationship. and it is frayed. there is no doubt about it. as every foreign leader we have seen come and sit in the oval office here, gone are the days of when these are simply ceremonial meetings. >> all right. >> jeff zeleny, live for us at the white house. thank you. >> it has been a roller coaster so far for stock traders as president trump's on again, off again tariffs inject more uncertainty and volatility into markets. >> cnn's vanessa yurkevich has been following it all. she's with us live now vanessa. how is wall street reacting today in what may be really the kickoff of a global trade war? and what do these new tariffs mean for americans? >> yeah. well wall street today has been very much up and down, much like the president's announcements on tariffs. you can see there's a mixed picture

right there. the s&p now up about just 31 points there. the dow though down about 53. we've really seen this up and down for the past three days now. and investors are grappling with two things. the first thing is a global trade war. and what we have seen in just the last 24 hours is 25% tariffs on all aluminum and steel coming into the u.s., the united nations really addressed this quickly with reciprocal tariffs, putting their own tariffs on $28 billion worth of u.s. goods. and we just heard from canada that they are putting a 25% tariff on $20 billion worth of u.s. goods and targeting also steel and aluminum. also in the background of all this, we got an inflation report today that showed inflation actually cooled in the month of february. and year over year inflation up 0.2% in february and 2.8% annually. and

that is a cooling compared to the increases that we've seen for the past four months. and some of the price changes that we've seen for consumers come along the lines of cost savings on airline tickets and gas prices. but we have seen the price of food tick up a little bit, particularly on eggs. look at that up 10.4% in the month of february alone. that is a dramatic increase. and shelter also up 0.3%. that accounted for the largest share of increases in this cpi report. but investors today just trying to grapple with these two pieces of news, an escalating trade war and a cooling inflation report. boris and brianna. >> so as you saw there, despite claims from the white house that egg prices are down, this latest cpi report actually shows that they've gone up 10%. vanessa yurkevich, thank you so much for breaking that down for us. joining us now to discuss market turmoil, tariffs and trump's trade war is neil irwin, the chief economic correspondent for

axios. neil i want to start by asking you about something trump touted in the oval office moments ago. he talked about inflation cooling. how do you read that in the middle of this escalating trade war? >> yeah. >> so this number we got today, the consumer price index. >> for february. >> what it shows is that. this kind of elevated inflation we had at the end of last year, heading into january, looks to have been temporary. so the underlying inflationary dynamic in the economy is pretty benign. it's getting better. the question is what happens now. and february. we only had the earliest impact of the trade escalations and the trade wars, the tariffs. we don't know for sure how much those are going to affect prices and headline inflation in the months ahead, partly because we keep getting the stop and start action on exactly what's being implemented, how high, how broad it's going to be. so for now, the inflation picture looks pretty good. the question is what comes next? >> and on. the tariffs here. immediate retaliation from the

eu overnight as more new steel and aluminum tariffs, broad tariffs are hit. you hear trump saying the u.s. is going to react. they're which appears to be putting us at risk of a global trade war there. he's trying to fix real or perceived trade imbalances. he's trying to goose, you know, industrial manufacturing here in the u.s. can he do that without it? over time, really costing the american consumer i think the real question here is how much is this going to be a one off change in the terms of trade with all of these major trading partners, and how much is it just going to be chaos and an ongoing on again, off again type of arrangement? >> you know, if you talk to ceos, they'll tell you, look, they don't want to pay tariffs. they don't want to have to reroute their supply chains. but if it's a one time change, they know it's going to be in place. they'll adjust and prices might go up in a one time way. they might have to, you know, their prices. they might have to

take a hit to their profit margins, but they can live with it. what's harder to live with is kind of this, this policy changing every day in a way that makes it very hard to to commit to things, to build a factory, to hire people. and so that's i think the open question does, do we find a new normal for trade policy between the u.s. and its major partners? is that stable, or do we keep having the chaos we've had over the last month? >> the counterargument from folks in the administration would be that these tariff threats yield results. they would point to the ontario premier. premier i believe. premier. premier. premier. doug ford undoing his 25% surcharge on electrical imports into three u.s. states as a result of trump threatening to double steel and aluminum tariffs on canada. they would point to that and say that's a success story. how do you read it? >> well, that's a reversing of policy. that was only retaliation for tariffs the u.s. put in place. you know, this gets back to a fundamental

question about trump's trade policy. how much of this is about having a negotiating tool, a source of leverage versus his other goals, which is resetting the entire framework of the global economy, re domesticating u.s. manufacturing, creating a revenue source for the federal government. those things are in tension with using this as a negotiating ploy, using it for tactical advantage on whether it's fentanyl or trying to get get very narrow gains from different countries. there's a tension between those. and the white house right now is trying to have it both ways. so we'll see which way it leans as this policy area goes forward. >> yeah, and it's hard to answer some of these questions because you don't know what is true today on tariffs neil may not be true tomorrow. that makes it really difficult. but americans have their point of view about how they're seeing this. 61% of americans disapprove of how trump is handling tariffs, 76% of republicans, though, approve approve of the tariffs, but that's lower than their approval on all of the other categories that are polled. i

wonder how much that public opinion, and certainly if it's persistent, could impact things yeah, i think it could. >> and you know, the stock market let's be clear. the stock market hasn't dropped all that much this last few weeks. but whenever it starts to move it gets people's attention. and that's before you get to the price impact, the inflation impact. and you know, if the price of goods at walmart starts to go up in the months ahead, we've seen what happens. we saw that in 2022, people really don't like it. and so, you know, there really is a risk here for the white house that if they try and break things and move fast and, you know, take some chances with the economy, if people start seeing goods get more expensive, if they start seeing their stock portfolio drop, it will have a cost. politically, we see that in the data already on surveys. and it's early days. you know, we're two months into this administration, not even and you know, the kinds of things they're threatening on trade would involve much more expensive tariffs than we saw back in 2018, 2019 and would show up in terms of consumer prices, would show up in gdp growth, would show up in the job market, most likely.

>> all right, neil irwin, thank you so much for being with us. still to come. all eyes are now on russia after ukraine accepted a 30 day cease fire ceasefire deal that was proposed by the u.s., president trump is vowing to speak with putin about it. within days. he was actually asked if he was going to be meeting with putin, and he wouldn't answer. so that was very interesting to hear. just moments ago. plus, the case of a pro-palestinian activists arrested by i.c.e. heads to court. what the judge just decided. >> and later, new measles cases confirmed in yet another state as hhs secretary robert f. kennedy jr. makes stunning claims about the mmr vaccine. that and much more coming up on cnn news central. >> twitter breaking. >> the. >> bird sunday at ten on cnn. >> if you're shopping for a home, you could browse hundreds of listings to find homes wi ya

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>> questions to respond so if they take a long time, they're clearly mulling things over, trying to figure out where they can get the most advantage. so one of the possible ways that this could unfold is obviously the one would be an outright rejection. >> i don't think it's going to happen that way. i think what they'll do is they'll engage in talks, especially with the u.s., regarding a possible cease fire, and they may delay those talks a bit or drag them out. they may accept it. they may accept this proposal to an extent. but then you have to watch how they're going to implement this, because this really doesn't call for a direct peace or a ceasefire or anything like that. what it calls for is a brief cessation of hostilities for about 30 days, i if that happens, that could serve the russians well internationally. it could serve them well in the sense that they would go in and they'd say people would look at it and say, okay, they've they've stopped fighting for a brief time, but they'll also use that to reconstitute their military

forces. and if they do that, then they can, in essence, live to fight another day. and that could be a a problem going forward for ukraine. >> would you foresee a situation in which russia escalates its attacks just before accepting something like that? would that be an indication to you that they're on the precipice of accepting a ceasefire? >> yes, it is a possible indication. something like that would be very logical for the russians to do. you know, you heard the air raid sirens in the background when clarissa was speaking. and that's kind of an indicator that the russians are ramping things up. they may lob a lot of artillery into ukrainian positions, a lot of missiles, even conduct air attacks and drone attacks. and then they may decide that it's in their interest to, you know, to stop fighting temporarily. but if they do that, don't expect it to last for a long time. >> when you think about the strong steps that president zelenskyy is describing, he'd like to see the u.s. take to put pressure on russia. if they

don't accept this deal, what do you think that would look like? you had president trump saying that they would suffer some financial ramifications. but we also heard from jeff zeleny at the white house essentially saying the u.s. is kind of maxed out sanctions on russia. there's not that much more effect that they're going to feel. so what is in the range of options for the administration? >> yeah. so the normal options would include sanctions, you know, economic type actions against the russians. but as jeff mentioned, and as you're mentioning, this is going to be have limited efficacy when it comes to the russians. they are already on a war footing. their economy is basically cut off from the western world already. so it really doesn't matter in that sense what would happen. so the only way that the trump administration could exercise real power over the russians would be to do something that they are not known for doing, and that would be to move troops into a place like poland and say, hey, if you move in in any direction toward ukraine or take any more ukrainian territory, we're going to get involved. and i don't see anybody doing

that on the u.s. side at the moment. but that would be the one card that the u.s. could play, which would be escalatory, potentially escalatory, but it would also put the russians on notice that they've gone too far. >> i want to get your perspective also, on another view of what a deal could look like that we heard from ian brenner, one of our foreign policy analysts, yesterday. he was sort of describing that what we could wind up seeing is a much broader deal that putin could use ukraine as a bargaining chip, one piece of a much broader deal between russia and the united states that could involve nuclear weapons, all kinds of economic agreements. how does that fit into this picture? do you think we're going to wind up seeing something far more comprehensive than just a ceasefire, or even peace with ukraine? >> i think that might be a possible goal by both the trump administration and the russians. so what the russians are looking at is the possibility of dividing up the world into different spheres of influence. so this goes in line with what ian was saying. they would

potentially use ukraine as a stepping stone to get there, and they could accept on a provisional basis a cease fire. but the goal would be to extend their influence into other parts of eurasia, either central asia or obviously ukraine, potentially other parts of europe, including potentially nato members. so that could then really call into question our alliances and many other things. and that would definitely be a russian goal to divide us from our nato allies. it would also make things easier for the russians, both politically and militarily. >> so many implications with how this could turn out. colonel cedric leighton, appreciate you joining us, as always. >> you bet. boris, thanks for having me. >> still to come on cnn news central, an update on the case of that palestinian activist who was arrested by immigration officials. he is set to remain in ice custody, at least for now. the latest details on this case when we come back. >> in the 90s, enron brought us the ultimate visionary, jeffrey

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universities defending khalil's right to call for a ceasefire. cnn's gloria pazmino is outside court in new york. so, gloria, get us up to speed on what happened at the hearing and what's next. >> yeah, brianna, we had gone into this hearing sort of expecting that it would be somewhat procedural. and that's actually what happened. the judge instructed both parties to go ahead and file the motions that they intend to file, and essentially come back to him in a few days. we did not get any new information about how the government is justifying the arrest of khalil, and the judge did not make a decision today on whether or not he should be released. that matter was not before him today. the one thing he did agree to today was that khalil has so far had a very difficult time having access to his lawyers, something that his attorneys talked about in court today. they said, quote, we literally have not been able to confer with our client once

since he was taken off the streets of new york city. the judge listened to that argument and asked the government to work with them to make sure that they can have access, specifically privileged calls that are not being monitored by the government. now, we are expecting the parties to file their motions. the government is making an argument that the state of new york does not have jurisdiction over this matter, because khalil was first detained in new jersey and then transferred to louisiana, where he is now. the judge encouraged the khalil attorneys to sort of agree to have the jurisdiction matter resolved, so that things can sort of get moving forward. in the meantime. a lot of support for khalil, not just in the courtroom, which was packed, but also outside of the courtroom here in foley square in downtown manhattan, where protests protesters demonstrated and advocated for his support. we also heard from the wife of khalil, in the form of a

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made specifically for kids. what a lovely company, shane. and i should note, you spoke to the new york times in 2019 about the tariffs that president trump was implementing. then during his first term, and how they could harm your company. i should note that ultimately, that did force you to move production of the bikes out of china, where 95% of bikes with smaller wheels were made. but before we get to the expected effects of these latest tariffs on your small business, can you take us through that process? because that is something that trump wanted, which was moving production out of china, though we should note, you didn't move it to the u.s. >> correct? yes. back in the first trump administration, we we did make that move because of the the the increased tariffs on chinese imports. and through that move, it was, you know, fortunately, our builder is a

taiwanese company. so we were able to shift our production to taiwan. and yeah, it was a it was a bit of an eye opening experience. and like you said, it's unfortunately, we weren't able to come to america, to the u.s. to produce our bikes, which is a goal. it's still a goal. but i think it's important to note whether it's the first round of tariffs or now the at least in the bicycle industry, it's to produce something. it's like the reason that 95% of all bikes in the world were produced in china at that time is because it's sort of like a village. and so our builder is in one area, but down the street from them are the people that make the tires, and down the street from them are the people that make the cardboard boxes. so everything is sort of close together. so getting parts and things like that make more sense. and it's not like the tire company is just sending them tires. they're turning the raw material into a tire and

supplying it. so for the u.s. production to happen, which again, i would love to have that be a thing. it's just that we have to establish that village again. we can we can assemble bikes in the u.s., but we would still be importing all the parts at this time. >> yeah, they really have a hold on the production of these parts. so in, in, in china they did as you said. you moved it to taiwan. so when you look at this latest round of tariffs, how are you planning. how are you expecting for this to affect you. >> well, fortunately we took the steps back previously to move our production out of china. and that's sort of our, our our path forward at the moment. and it's right now taiwan is still sort of doing the normal tariff scenario. so that could change.

but that's where we're headed at the moment. >> what has it been like for you? what has it meant for the bottom line? for how much? especially as an emerging company and you are a small business. to be clear, you don't make a ton of bikes. and what has that meant for you as you're trying to sell your product and get a toehold in the industry? has it made it harder? has it shifted you towards something that you wanted ultimately to do, which was to not maybe be producing in china? >> well yeah, it has sort of made us, i guess, rethink where we are. and, and just to be clear, too, it's when we made that move, that shift from, from china to taiwan, there was an automatic 10% increase in the cost. and so that's sort of like, why why china sort of became, you know, like such a such a hub for bicycles is sort of the, the inexpensive labor

and, and other factors and things like that. and yeah, moving forward as far as like our current situation, hopefully it's hard to say. i guess, you know, and probably like a lot of businesses, you know, we're a small we're we're super small. so with the, you know, the tariffs kind of like they're on their, off. they're on, they're off. it's it's it's hard to sort of forecast and predict with such rapid changes in things that are happening. because when we, when we place an order with our builder so we, we, we designed the bikes, from the ground up. so they built them to our spec. but when we, when we placder, it's a window of about 3 to 6 months. by the time, you know, we place the order, by the time we get the order. and unfortunately, the first tariff round, we did get caught with some of the high, high tariffs because we were we were like, all right,

well, our shipment should make it. but it didn't. it was actually one day, one day late. and we had when the tariffs. >> so shane explain explain then if you could just before i let you go kind of what this means for someone who is a customer of yours and is looking or any small company making a product sort of in the realm of yours, that if you are either moving out of china or you are passing on the tariff, it sounds like there's a price increase that goes along with it. how do you want customers to understand what this means for the product that you're selling them yeah, that's a great question. >> and i think that a lot of folks that i, that i at least that i talked to sort of there's a little bit of a disconnect between what the tariff is. and so the tariff is, you know, it's, it's, it's a tax that is paid for my company or u.s. importers. it's not

anything that china pays. so, so right. so we have to pay that extra money. and when we did get caught with the kind of that one day late in the big tariff, it was a, you know, like it went from about, you know, 10 to $15,000 tariff duty to about a $30,000 tour of duty. so our margins are already very tight as it is. and yeah, so it's sort of like if we have to pay it, it's one thing to absorb, you know, a quick, you know, like a smaller tariff, but a big tariff. you know, we have to increase the prices to cover that, that extra cost, which, which means unfortunately, you know, the, the cost of the bikes goes up and our, our customers are paying more for the bikes. >> shane, thank you so much. it's it's really helpful for us to understand as you're going through this process, what it does for your business and what it does for the customer. and you really illustrate that.

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