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declares victory. >> i think it's going very well. it was an operation. >> except the surgery is far from over and the patient is in severe pain. plus, many republicans are suddenly silent after years of insisting the risky operation wasn't needed. >> the buyer pays the tariff. >> also, the far right conspiracy theorist who called 9/11 an inside job is giving the president advice on who to fire from his national security team. >> and this. >> case has been. closed here. >> at the. >> white house. >> apparently, it ain't over till the watch dog sings the pentagon investigates its own leader. live at the table. scott jennings, congressman ro khanna, jim schultz, social hinojosa and van lathan. americans with different perspectives aren't talking to each other, but here they do.

good evening. i'm abby phillip in new york. let's get right to what america is talking about. the patient is in shock. you just heard how donald trump is comparing his unprecedented economic war to an operation, but he thinks that we're in the healing phase of it, when in fact, the knives are still out. a couple of reminders here before we show you inside the trauma unit. one, it's not the problem that most people disagree with. it's the solution. the methods. and two, your prescription for pain meds may be needed for weeks, months, even years. no one really knows. so here is day one. stocks having their worst day since 2020. $2 trillion just wiped out the dollar, erasing all gains since the election. the tariffs may cost every household in america more than two grand a year. nations are starting to retaliate, including france,

which is telling its people not to invest in america. banks, retailers, clothing, airlines, big tech, all of them. hard hit. today, one economist comparing trump's economic wisdom to that of a suicide bomber and a rather ironic image. the folks who opened the market this morning on what would become one of its worst days is newsmax, the pro-trump tv network. that company, you might remember, recently paid millions to settle a lawsuit for pushing trump's election lies. yes, that is rudy giuliani, who you see there in the corner, who also lost his shirt for defaming election workers. now, since monday, when it arrived on the stock exchange, newsmax peaked at $265 a share. today, it closed at 62. so despite all of this liberation, the president is at mar a lago tonight and he is in good spirits. >> how's it going? >> i think it's going very well. it was an operation. like when a patient gets operated on. the markets are going to boom,

the stock is going to boom, the country is going to boom, and the rest of the world wants to see. is there any way they can make a deal? >> joining us at the table is cnn business and editor at large richard quest. also with us, tim decker, a conservative economic commentator. richard quest, the patient, is literally, perhaps in shock at the moment. the stock market, i think, could not have been more clear about how they saw this. but even more important than that, businesses are coming forward and just being very transparent. prices are going to go up, they're going to go up, and americans are going to start to feel it. >> yes. the president. said he thinks. >> it's. >> going very well. >> i would hate. >> to see his definition of going badly, bearing in mind what we saw today. this was america's investors and the world's investors. if you look at other markets basically saying they are terrified at the way in which the united states is unilaterally reworking the

global trading system. i've got a couple of examples, if i may. here we go. this is a bottle of san pellegrino. now, of course, there are plenty of u.s. domestic options as well. this is going to go up by 20% because it comes from italy. therefore, the e.u. if you want fiji water, it's a bit of a luxury product. it's quite good. this is going to go up over 30% because of where it comes from. and good old fashioned tim tams from australia. >> i see the package has been broken into. >> because this didn't stand a chance. the tim tams from australia, which is a wonderful biscuit. these are going to go up by 10% because they're imported now. by the way these just came from the the deli across the street along with everything else. there are alternatives. but if you extrapolate all of this into all our individual products, the short answer to the long answer to your short question, we're all paying it. >> and tim, it's not just those products that are, you know, maybe luxury items. they're available elsewhere. it's a lot of things that the united states

isn't producing. never is going to produce. why slap tariffs on the whole entire world? and why not just acknowledge the mistake and let's fix it and move on? >> well, i don't know if you can call this a mistake. number one. number two, i don't know many americans who are going to actually consume those products on a regular basis. so we'll see if they're going to feel the hit on that one. but what i will say is this. >> but it's not just those you will acknowledge. it's everything. sure. >> sure, you're going to you're going to feel a hit for sure. that's what tariffs are. they're attacks. no question about it. and if these tariffs stay on long term yeah that's a bad news for the american consumer. that's bad news for all of us in this country. however you saw in that conference yesterday on the in the rose garden, the real deal, which was when he called out speaker mike johnson and majority leader thune and said, pass the tax bill and pass it soon. pass it now, because that's what this is about. that's the pro growth policy and the regulatory reform, all that stuff. >> so let me get let me get this straight. first, this was a negotiating tactic to reduce

global tariffs. now it's a negotiating tactic for his own party. he runs the show. and all of a sudden this is about them. >> i mean, he made he made it yesterday. we can still see negotiation come through this. there's no question. >> they need any incentive to pass. >> the tax bill. >> suggestion the. >> republican caucus about two months ago had this screening of ronald reagan. >> and i went. >> for the movie. >> and they should have. >> another screening. >> and they should. >> play ronald reagan on tariffs. and ronald. >> reagan will say, it seems. like the patriotic thing to do, but those. >> people in congress. >> they're just. bowing to special interests. and tariffs always raise rates. they cause inflation, they hurt competitiveness. they hurt innovation. and it's a false patriotism. don't fall for it. and they should just watch that over and over and over again. >> this seems pretty straightforward if you're a conservative. what also makes this i think somewhat absurd is they put out this formula. here i have it here. it's a chart like this that the president held up and in the blue and

white column, they basically had a made up formula. here's how larry summers describes it. it's now clear that donald trump's administration computed reciprocal tariffs without using tariff data, no tariff data at all to to this is to economics what creationism is to biology. astrology is to astronomy or rfk thought is to vaccine science. the trump tariff policy makes little sense, even if you believe in protectionist mercantilist economics. i don't understand. i mean, i guess they think nobody is going to bother to check, but making up numbers and then saying, we're going to have that number and be generous is not math. it's also not economics. it's kind of no way to run the economics of the greatest economy in the world. >> well. >> look, i'm not going to get into the mathematical formulas. >> they came up. >> with because i wasn't there. >> and i don't i don't know how. >> or why they. >> did it. >> i have mixed. >> feelings about this. truthfully.

>> i wasn't trained to believe in tariffs. you know, if those of us who grew up as traditional. republicans have. >> always thought what ronald reagan. >> thought. and so what. >> trump is doing. >> here is implanting new economic. >> theory. dna inside of the republican party. and what you're. >> seeing is. >> some republicans are rejecting it. some republicans are reluctantly going on with it. some republicans are enthusiastically embracing it. i know people in the business community who are on both sides of it, frankly, back home in kentucky and elsewhere. i'm also persuaded, frankly, by the trump argument regarding the working class in this country and also by the fairness argument. so i will just say this if it works, it will be the ballsiest and gutsiest thing a president has done in decades. >> let me know. >> please let me finish. and if it doesn't work, if it doesn't work, the political consequences fall on the shoulders of one man. >> actually, and i totally agree. >> with you. this is the one time i actually agree with you. jim cramer said it best. well, there are. >> several. >> maybe five times. this is one of those five times. jim cramer said this is a man made issue. one man made this issue and it was donald trump. and i think

that the americans wanted lower prices. they didn't want higher prices. what's going to happen and what economist economists are saying is not only are people going to get laid off, but costs are going to go up. and that's not what the american people want, and they're going to see it in the midterm elections. and so i think that the republican party needs to be very careful about what they're doing. the other problem with all of this is the uncertainty. he's not saying how long these tariffs are going to go. he's not saying, is this a done deal for a while or is it a short term deal. and that's a problem. >> richard, let me let richard in quickly. >> you talked about the political consequences will be on the shoulders of one man, but the economic consequences are going to be on the whole world. this is an experiment that should not have been taking place because and you talk about the republicans who are not speaking up so far. i mean, mitch mcconnell has come out with a statement. where was he talking about this, by the way, during the campaign when when we knew that tariffs were going to be large on the agenda, you also said. >> you just raised an issue. you said during the campaign when we

knew because donald trump. >> never expected this madness. >> they expected donald trump to enact tariffs. he did it in his first term, actually. >> well, actually, let let's be clear. >> i do think there was. >> an economic vandalism. >> i mean, this is actually not. >> i would think a lot. >> of working. >> class americans would say what was done to them was economic class. >> but the jobs that are going to come back, according to the peterson institute, the very jobs that donald trump says are going to come back are the jobs that america doesn't need. america needs high paying, high skilled, digital new age, a.i. based economy. what he's talking about bringing back is old stock. basically. look. >> well, no. >> here is a shoe. it's my shoe, right? it is made in china. you talked about these luxury products. they are right. but you take your shoe off and see where it's made. made in china, made in vietnam. this is going to be 34% more expensive. it's an ordinary shoe bought in a discount store. >> look, i, i represent silicon valley, but i think this country needs more than tech and a.i.

jobs. we definitely need manufacturing. and we need to be a manufacturing superpower. here's my problem with the tariffs. on the one hand he's saying, well, this is not permanent. this is just a negotiating technique. now, if you really think that and you're jim farley at the ceo of ford or you're the ceo of mary barra, are you going to go to your board and say, well, let's put billions of dollars in build new factories? when donald trump himself is saying that two months later he may take this away? >> congressman, i don't think donald trump is saying that. donald trump is saying we need to raise revenue in a different old school way through tariffs. he he would like this to be permanent. i think the people who are saying that are people like scott, who would like it to be temporary. >> he's saying that they're that we're here and they are here and they want. >> to do he is terrifying the country. >> that's what he's. >> saying, tim. he is terrifying countries. he is terrifying countries that do not actually tariff us at the levels that we are now tariffing them because he is using a made up formula based off of trade deficits. >> i saw before i walked in here that he's gotten a number of

calls from the leaders of other nations around the world. so you wonder what kind of negotiations are going on. if i might offer a piece of advice, though. >> his treasury secretary literally said there are no conversations. >> well, he, the president, the president of united states said it on the plane tonight. so i don't know who outranks who, but let me just offer. >> yeah, exactly. i think to what end is a very. >> important advice. i do think that if an american ally comes to the table like israel did and said, we're totally eliminating our tariffs, we should immediately reward that, because i do think part of the part of the game here is if you want to work with us and you want to treat us an american creators and american businesses fairly, we want to do the same for you. israel did that. i assume other countries are going to do. >> israel did that. and guess what? guess what they did to israel. they slapped them with a 17%. >> saying we should treat them. we should treat them the. >> same 1,717% tariff. >> if the. but if all the countries do what you say, scott, and everybody does sort of come back to us this level playing field, then the president is not going to get this other renaissance in

manufacturing and renaissance of new jobs, because the level playing field you make, goods and services where it is economically advantageous to do so. and at the moment in the united. >> states. >> let's agree. >> let's start digging up some diamond mines and exporting those, and then it will justify the tariffs that we placed on small african nations for diamond imports. some of this does not make logical sense. scott. >> you guys make a good point about where you make things and where does it make sense to make things. one of the arguments the president is making is that it does actually make some sense to try to make some things in the united states that we outsource long ago, and i don't know what you have against the keebler elves of battle creek, michigan, but i'll take them. i'll take them over your tin cans any day. you're americans. are you trying to put them out? are you trying to put them out of business over there? richard, i don't understand. i. >> pay good money. i'll pay good money to charity to see you eat a chocolate. >> what's sad about. i'm sure it's delicious. the best thing. the best thing that donald trump did in terms of industrial policy was operation warp speed,

where he said, if you build it, we'll buy it. and guess what? not only does he not have that approach, he fired the guy, doctor marks, who actually did operation warp speed. i mean, you've got a. so yes, build manufacturing, but at least study hamilton or look at how they built. manufacturing tonight. >> can i seriously worried about that tonight. there are people seriously worried about their 401 s. if you are, like me, 63 years old, and you're looking at retirement in a year or three, you're thinking, how long is it going to be before we get back? that's the reality. >> here. >> you can't retire now. >> we have never had true free trade in this country, ever. and if that's the goal, to get to free trade, reciprocal, low or no tariff, you can't say what's going to happen because we've never seen it before. so you say, oh, they're not coming back. well you don't know because it's never happened. >> well we have seen. >> so i would just say that, that if trump is going to go out on a limb and do this and risk

his political capital. >> that's his we have seen tariffs at this level before. and it wasn't good for the united. >> i've seen reciprocal low. we've never. >> seen that. sure. but but high tariffs produce high tariffs because it causes a trade war. that's not rocket science. >> not necessarily. what if other countries do come back in and say we're going to lower ours. >> they might. it's not rocket science. i'm not an economist, but we've actually done this before and it didn't bode well for us. richard quest, tim, thank you very much for joining us. everyone else, stick around. we'll pass the candy at the table coming up next for us. how maga voters are hearing about this news in maga media. plus more special guests at the table. plus, donald trump gets a visit from a 9/11 truther and then proceeds to fire the people that she called disloyal.

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by 40% would kill jobs all across this country. >> taxing european car. >> imports hurts bmw. >> because they can do the same. >> thing to us. china wins when we fight with europe. >> now, with a 10% tariff. >> laid down. >> who pays. >> that tariff? >> the american. workers and the american companies pay the brunt of all those. >> i hope that our administration is looking at ways to expand and grow opportunities for american businesses and farmers and ranchers, and not get us into this for tat trade war with with some of these countries, even china. >> jim schultz and van lathan join us at the table. congressman khanna, do you think that this is actually going to go anywhere? republicans, like many of those who were correct in their assessment, then, are going to actually say, actually, i don't think we can take a chance on this one. >> not right now. >> i mean. >> in candor, i mean, you don't have enough republicans speaking out, but if the markets continue to go the way they're going, then you may find suddenly republicans having a little bit

more courage. so i think there are people who are concerned and private, but they're going to give it a little more time. >> we're also, you know, it's kind of like a split screen situation for americans, depending on what they're watching in the media. over on fox, where a lot of conservatives get their news, here is how they tried to cope. i guess, with this today. listen, i. >> don't really. >> care about. >> my 401(k) today. you know what? i believe in this man. >> the last. >> thing we want to focus. >> on right now. >> is the stock market. >> who's complaining? wall street? too bad. >> i don't. >> care what the initial reactions are. >> this is the great. >> dealmaker. the great negotiator. i would argue, and we should see it as a potential restructuring of the american spirit. >> the american public. >> would be making a huge mistake to watch the stock market. >> it's an exciting time to. >> be alive. >> okay. having a bit of a hard time there. to be fair, i'm not worried about jeanine pirro's 401(k) either, but many other

americans are worried about theirs. >> it's still. >> a. >> snapshot in time. right. and democrats. >> criticized this. >> president in the last. >> term, time and. >> time again for saying that, you know, he. >> only was concerned about wall street. he was only concerned about. >> the stock market. now they're turning around and using the. >> stock market against him. now they're the ones that care. about the stock market. and he's the one actually fighting for the towns in michigan and pennsylvania and indiana and ohio. those places in the blue wall states where you have working class americans, you have union members in those states. the unions are supporting this effort, especially the autoworkers union. >> i don't think that the american people would actually agree with you on that. there have been 18 races so far in this year, and 17 democrats have won 17 out of the 18 races. there is a feeling around the country that donald trump is not fighting for them. and i think that if you have republicans in hard line districts right now looking at these tariffs where prices are going to go up, you're worried, you're a little bit worried that what is this going to look like for the midterm elections. so i actually

think that as much as donald trump might try to say he's fighting for the working person, they're not feeling it. and that's a problem for him. >> you know, i'm going to say something on this show that i'm not sure i've heard anyone say before. i was wrong when donald trump won. i thought that 75 to 80 million americans were all captured by the maga cult, and that they would go along with whatever president trump said. and i was wrong. i was wrong. there are a lot of people who voted very purely and clearly on the fact that they were experiencing economic distress, and they wanted that economic distress to come to an end. i'm hearing from these people. i'm hearing from brothers, brothers who believed not in all of the social things or the rhetoric or the religious part of who donald trump is, but in the actuality, in their minds, that donald trump was a whiz businessman that was going to fix the american economy. they're confused. they don't know what's going on. they did not vote for harder times. and the reality is, as much spin as can

be done on any network, it is going to be, in my opinion, in my opinion, irreparable harm done to the president's reputation. if people experience a tremendous amount of pain, even in the short term, from the tariffs. >> i mean tremendous amount of harm done to his reputation. but also, i just want to i think i need to correct the record because i feel like i hear a lot of conservatives talking about, oh, the last time when trump was in office, he put in those tariffs and everything was fine. okay, here is jp morgan talking about what happened the last time when he put in those tariffs, steel tariffs created about 1000 jobs for steel makers who were protected by tariffs. they reduced employment by 75,000 in steel using industries such as autos and construction. as prices rose and sales fell. similarly, in all industries affected by trump's tariffs, duties boosted factory employment by 0.4% but reduced payrolls by 2% because of overall costs rising and retaliatory. >> by the.

>> way, it costs jobs to raise prices. >> by the way, there's something else to pay attention to when you're looking at the job creation from the tariffs. in the first trump administration, the price per job. when you look at some of the jobs that were created, you're paying in one case, like $815,000 per job for the jobs that were created because of the costs that are offset by the tariffs themselves. so it's not a great way of job creation. it's very costly to the american public to do it that way. >> you know, what's sad about this is 90,000 factories did shut down in america since 2000. and trump said, there's a hole in the ship. and that's one of the reasons he won. and to van's point, people thought, he's a business guy. he's going to fix this and he's going to disappoint those talents. he's going to disappoint those people who have been betrayed for the last 40 years, because this isn't going to help improve their lives, and there's going to be more disillusionment in this country and more anger that their lives aren't changing. and that, to me, is the saddest part of all of this. >> scott. >> well, i think what is true today was true for joe biden and

every other president that came before either of these two guys. if people feel like their economic trajectory is on the upswing, they will give you political leash. and if they feel like their own trajectory is on the downswing, they will punish you. you go back to ronald reagan and he even though there were hard times in that first reagan term, people felt like the country was getting back on the right track. they were willing to give him time because they believed in his program. they believed in the confidence that reagan was projecting about america. that's what trump has to do here. to the people that you think are going to be impacted in the short term. and they may well be. and trump has acknowledged that he has to make them believe that the long term implications for this and their communities is is worth it, even if they're experiencing a little short term pain. so the political implication, abby, i think all all goes on to the trajectory. do you feel like things will go better in the future? and that's his? that is the salesman's challenge. >> it also it also has to be

true because at the end of the day, if people start losing their jobs, which some of them will, this is going to end badly for trump. yoon rhetoric is not going to do anything about that. i just want to play what one car dealer said earlier this morning, just about what's ahead for his business. pretty much in immediately. >> the cost is going to get passed to the consumer, there's no doubt about that. >> there's nothing we can do about that. we can't i. >> can't eat the cost. >> no matter what. >> all of us are going to sell less cars. and then we have to make the hard decisions. so that's laying people off, that's cutting vendors out. you know, that's reducing our inventories and not ordering as many cars. all these things to me are negative impacts to the economy. >> but i think he's got to get some deals in the short term. right. he's got to get some wins early start equaling out these these the with our trading partners. if he gets those early wins and people start to see

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apparently, laura loomer is giving donald trump presidential advice, and he is listening to it. the president fired three members of his national security team just hours after she visited the white house. she handed him a list of names of people who she claims are disloyal. trump was asked about that tonight. here's what he said. >> laura loomer is a very good patriot. she is a very strong person. and i saw her yesterday for a little while. she has she makes recommendations of things and people, and sometimes i listen to those recommendations like i do with everybody. i listen to everybody, and then i make a decision. always we're going to let go of people. people that we don't like or people that we don't think can do the job, or people that may have loyalties to somebody else. >> first of all, i just have to say, i mean, the national security thing is important, but the president just said that laura loomer, who is a 911

conspiracy theorist, is a good patriot. i, i cannot believe that. i mean, i really cannot. this woman has said she's shared videos, claimed 911 was an inside job. she's called islam a cancer. she posted a video that marjorie taylor greene. called racist, extremely racist. and the president is saying this is a good patriot welcoming her to the white house. >> i'm not going. to defend anything about loomer or anything, she says. i agree with little of what she says. so i'm not going to defend that. but it is. all these folks serve at the pleasure of the president. right? and if the president wants to take advice and evaluate that advice, if she brought documents in that were that showed some type of disloyalty or not following the president's agenda, and he wanted to ask his team to look into it over the weekend and decide if they were going to verify that information and then make a decision that he wants to make in terms of staff well within his province to do that.

but in terms of who he is getting advice from, i can't agree with who he's getting advice from, but it is within his province to make those decisions. >> i mean, he's the president. he can do what he wants, but he is getting advice from a person who is pretty loony. >> i actually think i don't know if this has been reported or not. i actually think they let go of more than three people. there's a longer list, and my understanding is that some of them just don't support the president's agenda, their own political history. i think some of them may have been holdovers, their own political history indicated they supported biden or harris or other democrats who just aren't aligned with trump's worldview. so regardless of where he got the advice or what information that person brought forward, at the end of the day, any president for the core white house staff, you have to believe that every single person in there fully believes in your agenda, and that's why they serve at your pleasure. and when you lose the pleasure, you lose it. but you shouldn't expect a president to have anyone on the payroll who is actively working against you or working against your worldview. >> are you you're comfortable with him getting national security advice from laura

loomer? >> i'm not comfortable with it. i don't think that's what he was getting a b. i don't defend anything. loomer believes. and the examples you cited and see my understanding is she bought it. she brought in basic vetting information that could have been brought forth by anybody. so the messenger can be criticized. but i'm as i understand it, the information is is good and they use the information. and he made some decisions. >> so like in the future or in the past, wherever it is, you're going to hear people say that they're afraid that president trump is in bed with white nationalists, that he's in bed with racists, that he's in bed with people, particularly to people in my community, black people. you're going to hear them say that, you know, there's all kinds of reasons that we don't trust president trump because of things that he's said and done in the past. and then a lot of times when you're talking to your republican friends or your friends on the right about that, they'll tell you, no, that's not true. he's denounced it at every turn. he's denounced this. he's denounced that very fine people on both sides was taken out of context. there's no doubt about it. a white nationalist is

giving the president advice. someone who has given speech at speeches at white nationalist conferences, someone who's called themselves a white advocate, someone who's demonstrated abhorrent racism on twitter, has the president's ear. if you are black, if you are aapi, if you are anything nonwhite, that should frighten you. and it is now unassailable. that is fact. it's right there. and not only is she talking to him, he's listening to her. there has got to be a line. i understand anyone can give the president advice, good advice, bad advice, but there's got to be a line of who the most powerful man in the world can surround himself with and have all americans feel safe. >> well, she's also giving. she is giving him national security advice because she's making him shake up her national, his national security team, and that you don't want the national security apparatus within the white house to be in disarray. and that's exactly what

happened. there seems to be a rift within the national security council, which has been reported before. and it's this isn't the first time that there has been any sort of firing or anything like that in the national security apparatus. you had that at the fbi, you had it at doj. and this is what worries me. it's every single part of the national security apparatus, whether it's signal gate or whether it is firings at these various agencies, top career officials or officials within the nsc. all of this makes us less safe. and it's actually very scary that we have these people all across the federal government that either don't have their jobs anymore or being pushed aside for other jobs, all because of president trump's ego. >> i mean, he hired these folks. >> not too long. not all my understanding is some some were higher. some were okay. >> but but i'm not speaking to the ones that we don't know about. the three that we do know about. one served trump in his first term. the other was a legislative affairs director for his current national security advisor. and then another worked for marco rubio in the senate.

so, i mean, i don't know what the secret information is, but my point is only they just hired these people. and now the the trigger is this person who is all of those things that van described and all the things that we talked about calling the shots. >> apparently this is what laura loomer does. you know, she was trying to get people fired earlier by saying that they supported me on twitter. she'd say, you know, she was in the i he supported roe carney please fire him if she tried this with david sacks. and i think this is a bigger window into donald trump, which is her argument was they weren't with you when you were down and out after january 6th. i was with you. and trump had a choice. when he won, he had a choice whether he would try to be a president for over 51%, or whether he would hunker down with the people who he thought were really loyal to him. and i think the fact that he's not willing to jettison her is not political. it's emotional. he feels that he was aggrieved for four years that she was with him. and the people who were with him are the people

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harris speaking in california for the first time in months with some choice words about the team that beat her in november. the former vice president says that she won't say, i told you so, but that we knew that this would happen. speaking of all of that, she essentially said that basically she was right about all of this. and. yeah, and, well, i mean, in the sense that she did warn that trump was going to do the things that he said he was going to do, despite many people saying that it was all just rhetoric. that's cold comfort for democrats right now. but that's what she had to say. >> this feels like deja vu. right after the 2016 election, everyone looked back and said, oh, hillary clinton said all these things. these are exactly the things that he's going to do this time around. it was all in project 2025. we knew the harris campaign talked about it. whether people believed it, i'm not sure people believed it, but it's just like tariffs. you were right. i think both we were

talking about this earlier, about how trump promised tariffs. he is doing it. he is delivering on it. people do not like it, but people voted for it. so i agree. she did tell people. so and i think that what what we're seeing right now is exactly what he said he was going to do. >> but very few people in america think she should be there right now. and that's because all the problems that came out of the biden administration, the inflation, the costs, all those things, they weren't that you can't recreate history. that was a that was a failed administration. that's not changing. she could say, i told you so all you want. but he also said, this is what i'm going to do. now he's doing it. >> not very few people, millions and millions of people voted for for former vice president harris. i will say this, though. they about to be mad at me. i don't like this. >> like what? >> i don't like the i told you so stuff, man, i don't like it's true, it's true. it's definitely true. all of it was predicted. we need to listen to black women. we need to prioritize black women in leadership, all of that. but when people are struggling and

when people are confused, i do not think it strikes the right chord to be like, i told you so, and. >> i agree. >> with that. i just don't think that it does. and i think that coming from the left right now, the leadership needs to be stronger about what their messaging is not about. i told you so, but i tell you how you're going to be better. >> and also perhaps acknowledging that a failure to get what was motivating voters is also underlying the loss. so maybe she was right about trump, but but not putting on the table something that voters actually wanted to vote for. >> well, yeah, i mean, elections are ultimately about choices. they aren't, you know, you don't have them in a vacuum. and i would just argue back to kamala harris that, you know, i told you so i agree, i told you so donald trump was going to close the southern border. i told you so. he was going to bring order to immigration. i told you so. he was going to drag this country out of the left wing cultural ditch and put us back towards more mainstream middle of the road. >> do you think he's done the. >> last thing i did tell you? so now he's also executing, as you

all have acknowledged, his economic agenda, just as he said he was going to do. he's enacting tariffs and he's asking the congress to make the tax cuts permanent. and he's unleashing american energy. so i agree it is. i told you so. and about half the country is okay with it. and about half the country voted for it. so it strikes me that this is a healthy level of copium going on right now among democrats who are telling themselves stories that the people who voted for this are not happy with it. the vast majority, if not everyone who voted for donald trump, is some level of happiness ranging from 9 to 10 on the happiness. >> completely disagree. >> i think that you're seeing i think that you're seeing we've talked about it on the show tonight. a large, large number of people that are expressing consternation with what they see happening to the country financially, with like, laura loomer being in the white house. i think that i told you so doesn't necessarily have to do with specific policy points that president trump laid out. it has to do with how the country would fare overall under donald trump.

and if people are going to be in financial ruin or, god forbid, if there is a recession, and the chances of that seem to be going up every day, then i told you so is going to be very, very prophetic from, from, from kamala. >> the thing is that the vice president harris is a. brilliant prosecutor. >> and in the campaign, i think. >> the way she did in the debate, she prosecuted the case and she prosecuted the case about all the bad things that donald trump was going to do. >> i don't think. >> there was any person who didn't know it. the problem was we. didn't have an affirmative vision. what are we going to do to help people who are hurting? >> i'm not going anywhere. people are rumoring california governor's race. that's likely. >> i'd vote for. >> i think. i think if she runs for governor of california, she would clear the field. i mean, on the democratic side, she's obviously a strong figure, but i she is she your best option for 28? >> all right. >> we'll see. all right. >> coming up next the panel is going to give us their nightcaps. they're going to tell us what they think needs a remake inspired by the new installment of a decades old series.

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naked gun franchise that started back in the 80s. you each have now 30s to tell us what else could use a remake, jim? >> so i'm saying i'm going to say all the right moves. that's a football movie out of western pennsylvania and pike, pennsylvania. failing manufacturing town football player trying to get out. played by tom cruise. david urban probably thinks he can play that tom cruise character. he probably has a better shot at. >> being the. >> coach now. >> that's where he's from. all right. >> i phoned a friend, which is my sister, and she had a good one. never ending story. it is a little quirky, a little odd, but with modern technology, i think it could be a big win. >> blank man. broke superhero. okay. from the 90s. we all about to be broke because of these tariffs anyway, so we're gonna have to figure some things out. you put damian wayne's junior in it. damian. dante wayans directs it. the wayans family is back. blank man. bring it back. it's perfect for the times. >> god, you guys are stumping me on these.

>> you've never seen. >> anything before. >> great movie. >> you about to get your car? >> sorry. >> i'm going to stick to the theme of the the show. trump's economic team needs a remake. he needs to call. he needs to call larry kudlow even or or call stephen moore. get some people who've studied economics and they're. >> always on message. always on. >> message. >> you don't have a movie. >> of all movies. >> always on message. >> he's a politician. what are you. >> going. >> to? >> i'm just going to start by saying i'm a little nervous about this naked gun business. it's a it's an amazing movie and amazing. i think it's hard to improve on certain things. i trust liam neeson. we trust him. but i am a little nervous. >> about before we move on, though. man, i feel like you took the other side of this. you think it should be remade? >> i didn't think that it should be remade. i had no faith. but that trailer was fantastic. >> i'm hopeful about the trailer on your word, i just, i, you know, i don't even want to watch happy gilmore two. i'm like, i'm worried. i'm worried about the things that i love being.

>> once again, i just have to ask, can we not make any new things? but anyway, scott. >> you know, i put a lot of thought on this tonight, and, i don't it feels like snow white should be remade. i feel like nobody has done this lately. it came out in 1937, and i just feel like it's time that someone actually tried to do a remake of snow white. it feels like it would be highly successful for the company that owns the intellectual property, and if they were to do it properly, i think they'd make a bajillion dollars. so i'm going to go with snow white. >> you know. >> well played. >> scott, i didn't. >> know that. >> yeah. great film. i think it could be done. >> could be done. >> the live action stuff i think is is very tricky. it's hard to make that stuff work with classic. so that's that's all i got to say about that everyone. thank you very much. i'm going to go watch some movies tonight apparently because i have a lot to