vance. for what it's worth, the policy may very well fail. so even then, when he's supporting trump around trade, not a ton of confidence in 2019 that this is going to be a successful policy. >> no. okay. so he also had the opposite view of trump on what was to blame for u.s. manufacturing job losses. right. those have happened. right. jobs have gone overseas. right. that is a reality that that is at the core of this. but trump blames other countries, right. he's blaming protectionist trade policies. vance has said loud and clear that that was wrong. it's something else to blame. >> exactly. yeah. he made the opposite argument, basically from trump. he said that american manufacturing jobs were lost, not because we're shipping them overseas, not because of trade deals, he said. they were lost because of robots, because of automation, because basically robots were taking the jobs of people. and he said, you know, that the protectionist trade policies, the same ones that he supports now, were not going to be we're not going to bring those jobs back because they

weren't lost because of trade deals. they were lost because robots took them away and listened to him here. >> the fundamental. >> issue with american jobs and manufacturing right. >> now is. >> not that all of our jobs have gone to mexico and china, it's that they've been automated. it's that mechanization has sort of reduced the manufacturing work base. >> they haven't disappeared. >> so much from. globalization or from shipping them overseas. they've largely disappeared because of automation and because of new technological change. >> i also want people to look right here at this tweet that we also found from vance. this was a deleted tweet where he said, quote, 2017 can't be repeated enough if you're worried about america's economic interests, focus on automation and education rather than trade protectionism. he said that actually, on a day we found we looked up the date. he said that on a day that trump was attacking, you know, the trade deficit with mexico, with his obviously his huge thing and why he's doing the tariffs now. >> well and it would be clear that's why jd vance would have

posted on that day. just out of curiosity, can you tell when he deleted it? i mean, that wouldn't be a tweet. one would. ordinarily delete him. >> so he runs for senate in 2022. okay. he's, you know, full on maga. he's full trump. he got the beard. he was like, he's he's he's full, full trump supporter. now he deleted all of his tweets at some point before that run. and that's where you know, the thing where he said trump's reprehensible. he makes people that, you know, make me afraid. immigrants afraid. so i think he's reprehensible. all literally all that stuff that's all gone rid. >> of that. >> at that point. he gets rid of it. and now, you know he's so the opposite. right. >> so what is he how is he trying to clear clean this up tonight that on this issue of tariffs he has been just on every level on the opposite side of the president in the past. >> so we reached out to his office. i'm going to read this is the statement that they gave us here. they said vice president vance has been crystal clear in his unwavering support for revitalizing the american economy by bringing back manufacturing jobs and sticking up for middle class workers and families. since before he launched his senate run. and that is a large part of why he

was elected to public office in the first place. >> well, there's his response. all right, andrew kaczynski, thank you very much. thanks for watching. the source begins now. >> straight from the source. tonight. >> an historic stock market plunge. warnings of higher inflation plus increased recession fears. and did i mention that's all before the president's universal tariffs take effect at midnight tonight, a purge at the highest ranks of the intelligence community. trump firing the top brass at the national security agency. one of those officials was in charge of protecting u.s. cyber space. key democratic senator is my source. and the trump administration appealing a judge's ruling tonight, saying they must bring back a man they admit was mistakenly deported to el salvador. that man's lawyer is here live. i'm jim sciutto in for kaitlan collins. and this is the source. tonight we are

just three hours away from a 10% tax on everything. everything shipped into this country as president trump's trade war continues to escalate, china's striking back with its own 34% tariff on all imports from the united states. this begins next week. and every day that the stock market reacts like this, it's a lot of red. their retirement gets further away. for millions of americans. yet the man who is single handedly betting your 401(k) on his attempt to reshape the global economy on his terms, says this is a great time to get rich, richer than ever before. exclamation points. that optimism stands in stark contrast to what you hear when you speak to americans. >> these are american dealers that employ americans. they're going to be impacted in a really

difficult way. >> i just. wouldn't be able to afford something if it goes up like that, and it's going to be bad for american people always. >> you wake. >> up in the morning, i wonder. >> what the egg is. >> going to be. >> how much. >> the oil is going to be, how much the prosciutto will be. >> so you. >> always thinking and worry about it. >> today, the federal reserve chair said that trump's trade war will cause higher inflation and slower growth. so what are americans going to pay more for? things like fruits and vegetables? perishable grocery items will cost more first, and it's not just what you eat, it's what you wear, what you use at home and electronics like laptops, tablets, smartphones that are going to get more expensive. they are. and while this was happening today, this was also happening. the president playing golf at his trump international golf club before heading back to mar-a-lago. just a short time ago, he posted on truth social quote big business is not worried about the terrorists because they know they are here

to stay, but they are focused on the big beautiful deal which will supercharge our economy. we begin with our white house insiders, and good to have you all here. peggy, i want to begin with you at bloomberg. you have the fed being quite clear as to what this is going to do. higher inflation, slower growth, and that the effects of this could be more persistent, that this is not going to be fleeting. do you speak to anybody on wall street who buys what the president is saying here, that this is a big, beautiful deal that's going to make everybody richer? >> well, i. >> think what happened, jim, is that. >> the investors on wall street and traders on wall street were baking in that we were going. >> to have. >> tariffs and higher tariffs. what happened on wednesday was that the magnitude and scope of those tariffs was surprising to most people. and then we saw china come out this morning and retaliate. and a few hours after that, as you said, fed chair powell came out and said this could be a double whammy for the economy in terms of slower

growth, which could potentially affect hiring and higher prices, which is something that the american people have been dealing with since covid. >> yeah. and by the way, seem to move the election in trump's favor. they're expecting progress there. zolan. this is how the financial times put it today if it endures. speaking of trump's tariffs, donald trump's decision on april 2nd to enact sweeping reciprocal tariffs on u.s. trade partners will go down as one of the greatest acts of self harm in american economic history. they will wreak untold damage on households, businesses and financial markets across the world, upending a global economic order that america benefited from and helped to create. i wonder zolan, is there anyone inside the white house or close to the white house, close to the president who has communicated communicating that message to trump right now, or is he just surrounded by folks who are nodding their heads and saying, mr. president, you got this right? >> i think this moment is another prime.

>> example of the difference between trump. >> round. one and trump. >> round two. >> trump round one. you may have those people a rex tillerson, a steve mnuchin that are around him trying to trying to temper actions like the tariffs that we saw this week. remember this time this administration conducted loyalty tests for people coming into government to ensure that the president would be able to act on these instincts, act on something that has really been a part of his identity even long before his political career, feeling that america was being ripped off and wanting to use these tariffs to almost build a wall of sorts, an economic wall around the nation. but it bears, it's worth repeating. you know, u.s. importers, most economists say, pay for the price of tariffs. and that goes and passes on to the consumer. so now you have a gamble. here is trump's grip on his supporters in the party so strong that his supporters will weather through a economic

frustration and wait for what he says will happen, which is manufacturing, coming back to the united states. but how long is that going to take? and do voters become frustrated and fed up with high prices? in the meantime? >> i mean, and also the idea that that is short term is not something that's supported by a number of economists looking at this, imagining that all these manufacturing jobs are suddenly going to return here. dasha, the washington post is quoting a white house official as saying, quote, he this, of course, being trump is at the peak of just not giving an f anymore. i won't specify what that word is. bad news stories doesn't give an f, he's going to do what he's going to do. he's going to do what he promised to do on the campaign trail. is that what you're hearing here? that trump is not even concerned about what used to be his primary bellwether for political success, which is the state of the stock market that he's forging ahead. >> yeah. i mean, you know, in trump one, we heard constantly how much he was watching the

stock market, how much that was sort of impacting how he was thinking day to day. that is just not the case anymore. and to that point about the difference between 45 versus 47, he's not concerned about reelection. he's not even really concerned about the midterms for republicans. he has a vision for what he wants to do, and he's doing it in those around him have to be falling in line at this point, because, again, that was the loyalty test. the thing that i'm trying to parse in my reporting is these two different reads that i'm getting from those close to president trump. the first read is that this is part of the art of the deal. this is the beginning of negotiations. this is where he laid it down. and now these calls are coming in from these different countries. and he's going to use this to get better deals for americans. the second read is no, no, no, no, no. he is fundamentally trying to reshape the world economic order. and this isn't just a negotiation tactic. this is part of a plan that he has had. he

loves tariffs and he wants to see things fundamentally shift in the way that trade happens globally. and i just don't know which direction is going to end up being up here by the end of this. >> and listen, i mean, if we take him at his word, trump just posted to truth social tonight that the tariffs are here to stay. at least that's what he's saying. now, shelby, to be fair, one does not have to look hard or far to find the president warning about a big market drop if he were to have lost the election. have a listen. >> we don't win. >> if we don't win and you're going to have a stock market crash, you will have the largest stock market crash we've ever had that will come crashing down if we lost this election, i think the market would go down the. >> tubes. and when there's a crash, i hope it's going to be during. >> this next 12 months. >> because i don't want. >> to be herbert hoover, the one president. i just don't want to be herbert hoover.

>> interesting telling. have you been some foreshadowing there? but, shelby, does anybody in the white house acknowledge that? quite obvious and public fact that trump warned about a market crash, but in fact, he won. and we have a market crash? >> no, they quite frankly, they are not doing that. and what i think is interesting to everybody else's point is the fact that this donald trump is sort of unleashed. he knows what he wants to do. he he talked about tariffs on the campaign trail. and despite the fact that we have a market crash, they are insisting that this market crash is just temporary, essentially, and that americans just sort of need to ride it out. and that is what i'm hearing is the difference between what we heard donald trump on the campaign trail versus what we're seeing now. in reality, their argument is it is not here to stay. >> peggy, you speak to a lot of folks on the market. do they believe that this is just a let me use that word, transitory stock market problem here, or are they worried about it

getting even worse? >> well, you use the word transitory i think fed chair powell, going back to that, said today that it's uncertainty is here. and it's not just uncertainty about trade policy. it's also about the impact on the economy from changes to immigration policy, changes to regulatory policy, changes to fiscal policy. the trump administration says tax cuts are going to be one of the things that could help us out of this, but right now, it looks like a number of these factors are causing a lot of people to get nervous. >> yeah, we see that. and lots of folks putting a lot of money to express their nervousness, nervousness as the market drops. everyone, thanks so much. we appreciate you joining us on this friday. coming up next, the top democrat on the senate intelligence committee is blasting president trump after he fired several top national security officials on the advice of someone who once claimed that 9/11 was an inside job. senator, is my source. tonight.

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job. this comes as the number of people fired after taking part in that unsecured signal chat, where active military operations were being discussed on an unsecured platform, remains zero. my source tonight is the top democrat on the senate intelligence committee, senator mark warner. senator, thanks so much for taking time this friday night. >> well. >> jim, thank you. we're in the middle of the vote-a-rama, which will be voting all night. and actually, i've got an amendment on this a little bit later where i'm going to say, shouldn't we at least require our senior national security officials not to communicate on non-secure lines? we'll see if republicans step up. but you laid this out. well, general hawk, 30 years of military service served republicans and democrats alike being fired by this, quite frankly, lunatic. at what point, if ever, will my republican colleagues find any courage? i don't know.

>> you, you took to the senate floor floor to condemn this move? laura loomer. as you know, accuses him of disloyalty to the president and your experience with him over the years. did he ever exhibit any political leaning that kept him from doing his job, leading the agency? >> absolutely not. jim, i had no idea what his politics are, but that's been the case for all of the nsa leaders. these are career military. their job is to be speak truth to power. and the one thing we know is that this president doesn't want anyone telling him the truth. and candidly, you know, this person who you said is a denied nine over 11 has said school shootings are, you know, made up no rational administration would have her within 100 yards of the white house. yet she's giving the president staffing advice. >> let me ask you this, because, as you know, these roles are designed specifically to be nonpolitical. they often straddle administrations. paul nakasone, for instance, he

straddled the first trump administration and the biden administration. what is the effect on our intelligence gathering and defense of, in essence, holding senior officials to what are becoming political litmus tests, loyalty tests? >> well, jim, this is the unraveling of literally the whole history of our intelligence and military service to be nonpolitical. this action, which undermines the confidence of all the folks who work in the ic, coming on top of the careless, repeatedly sloppy handling of classified information, which, you know, we call the signal gate. if any military officer or ic officer had done that, they'd be fired right away. we're now 10 or 12 days after we saw it was not just one chat, but 20 plus chats on signal. nobody's been held accountable. and i just go back. you know, i've been on the intel committee a long time. it's been the most bipartisan committee in the senate. when are any of my

republican colleagues going to find the spine to call out what is obviously outrageous behavior. >> on the house side? republican don bacon, he told fox news that the white house fired one of the best generals and the smartest on cyber operations. he went on to say that china and russia are laughing at us at some point. this is going to make the country less safe to take qualified folks out of important jobs. >> you're absolutely right. and remember, we're still sitting at a time where the chinese, through what was called salt typhoon, have penetrated all of our telecom networks. and general hawk had a plan to try to remedy that. now, if you put in somebody political there, that's loyalty is simply to donald trump. you know, when we've seen the leaders at, you know, the director of national intelligence, i believe, lie to the committee, you know, the secretary of defense who sent out this information that put american lives in danger. i tell you, i was down in hampton roads where the truman, the aircraft

carrier that's in the eastern mediterranean, where the planes flew out. and they knew that if that information had gone out, people's lives could have been in danger. none of these folks are up to the job. and i just wonder how many more disasters do we have to have before there's some accountability? >> i mean, in the cyber space, as you know, i spent a lot of time on these stories. this is a it's a it's a low grade war that's already underway. i mean, there's cyber attacks happening every minute, probing operations, cyber weapons planted inside critical systems. so i imagine if the country lets its guard down and is focused more on who who tweets what or what laura loomer says that that makes it makes the country more vulnerable to those kinds of attacks. >> this is a no brainer. absolutely. it's why we set up the intelligence community and the military to be nonpolitical. all of that is being undermined. and you know what i keep as somebody gets accused of being too bipartisan, i am so bitterly

disappointed that republicans have never been, have not yet been willing to stand up and say enough. we cannot undermine these institutions. >> so when you have private conversations with your republican colleagues, are any of them saying, now, this could be too much, you know, exposing information about military operations underway as the signal gate conversation did, or taking someone out of a top leadership position in the midst of, you know, ongoing cyber operations. does anybody say to you privately, you know what? this is getting close. senator warner, to when it's too much. >> for me? absolutely. they absolutely. but private conversations when our candidly, our national security is at stake don't amount to a hill of beans until they find the willingness to step up and speak out. you know, our national security diminishes. and, you know, as as i will give representative bacon from nebraska a little credit here.

he's absolutely right. there were celebrations i can imagine in the intel community in china and russia today when they saw somebody of general hawke's character and determination to keeping our nation safe, frankly, getting fired for blatant political reasons. >> before we go, laura loomer posted about you specifically. i wanted to give you a chance to respond, she wrote in a long post. quote, if anti-trump and pro-impeachment democrats are angry about the firings of trump administration officials in the nsc and nsa, and they are angry about potus, president of the united states meeting with me in the oval office. that's how you know i did the right thing, and that these people needed to be fired. she went on to say, the democrats on the senate intelligence committee are crying because they were hoping to weaponize the intel agencies against president trump again, just like they did during his first term, to spy on him and stage a coup against him. there's a lot in there. i'll give you a chance to respond. yeah. >> just two quick things. one, remember, this is a lady who thinks that nine over 11 was an inside job. this is somebody who

calls into question the veracity of school shootings. this is also somebody that some of the people who were fired at the national security council were literally staff members of republican senators and republican congressmen. it'll be interesting to see whether those members who these guys and gals used to work for were willing to stand up and support their former staff members. we'll see. >> current secretary of state marco rubio, one of his former staffers, among them senator mark warner. hope you have a good weekend. >> thanks, joe. >> coming up next, trump officials are pushing back against a judge who ordered they bring back a man who the white house admits it mistakenly deported to el salvador, el salvador, calling the judge a marxist and suggesting she reach out to the salvadoran president herself. the deported man's lawyer is my next source. >> as a person living with

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in salvadoran custody. my source tonight is abrego garcia attorney, simon sandoval-moshenberg. thanks so much for for joining us tonight. >> good evening. >> so first i want to begin with how you square the trump administration appealing the ruling to bring the client back, even though the trump administration itself admitted it deported him by mistake. >> i don't know what there is to appeal. they've admitted that this was an error. they've admitted that they had no legal basis or factual basis to deport him in their court filings. now, i'm leaving aside what the white house press secretary says. i'm just talking about what's been filed in court. they sent their lawyer to court today with no evidence. >> no information, no explanations, no answer. >> the judge kept. >> patiently asking him. over and over again. >> why did this happen? why haven't you brought him back? and over and over. >> again. >> all he could say is my client hasn't shared that information with me. >> the president, trump's top immigration adviser, stephen

miller, with some quite strong opinions on immigration in general, went after the judge personally tonight, saying she's a marxist who thinks that she is president of el salvador. the press secretary suggested tonight to the ap the judge should contact the president of el salvador to get your client back. i want to ask you this. do you believe this administration might face a court, might lose in court. right. and then ignore that court's decision and just barrel ahead and say it's not our problem. >> i'm a lawyer. i have. >> to trust that, you know, if the judge's order is not stayed on appeal. which i hope the appeals. >> court will. >> not stay at because there's no reason to that they will comply with it. but if they don't comply, we'll be. back in front of the judge. >> asking. >> her to use her full power to force them to comply. >> this is going to be appealed to the fourth circuit court of appeals. more democratic appointed judges than republican appointed judges. do you believe

they will rule in your client's favor? i don't. >> see any reason not to allow this ruling to stand. i don't see. >> any reason. >> to overturn the. >> ruling because the government admitted first. >> that they. >> had no legal. >> basis or factual. >> basis to deport mr. abrego garcia. >> and then. >> in court. >> when the judge asked. >> the lawyer. >> for the government, well, why haven't you brought him back yet? his answer was essentially, i don't know. they haven't told me that. so, you know, i just think there's a huge disconnect between their tweets and what they're saying from the white house press office versus what they're filing and what they're filing is nothing at all. they're saying the white house press office is saying, i've seen a mountain of evidence that he's ms-13. what they're filing is nothing at all, no evidence whatsoever. and the judge said at the outset of the hearing today, i can only go based on what's in the evidence. >> yeah. and the judge appeared skeptical of the judgment that this was that this was warranted. and to your point, even the lawyer from the department of justice didn't

quite have an answer. can you just remind people who are watching here what the basis and the quite thin basis that your client was, was put on one of those flights and sent to that horrible prison in el salvador. >> well, they claim it was an accident. i think i'm a little skeptical of that. i don't understand why they even arrested him in the first place. earlier or last month. i don't understand why they sent him to a staging facility from where flights were taking off. but they say it's an accident. in the end, it almost doesn't matter whether it was accidental or intentional, because they're clearly admitting it shouldn't have happened. so now you've done something you shouldn't have done. what are you going to do to fix it? it's pretty straightforward to me. >> well, we'll see if that holds. simon sandoval-moshenberg, thanks so much for joining. >> my pleasure. good evening. >> my legal source, elie honig, joins me now tonight. i mean, this is a. startling shocking. i mean, it's hard to come up with

the adjective to describe it because, i mean, first of all, these deportations just in their own right, you know, without due process, you're sending a whole host of folks there. but here's one where even the administration admits the due process failed in effect. right. we sent them by mistake, and yet they're still fighting this in court. >> that's what's so remarkable and confounding about this one. >> there are. >> other deportation cases. >> where the administration is saying, well. >> we were. >> legally justified in what we did. those are. >> being litigated. >> up now. >> to the. >> supreme court. in this particular case, the administration admits we deported him mistakenly. >> but their. >> official position is. >> but there's nothing we. could do. now, let me tell you something. >> they could get him back here. >> if they wanted to. right. >> they don't. >> seem to be trying. >> very hard. >> and they're saying he's out of our custody and issuing these challenges. well. >> you get him out, judge. >> that's not the way this works. and the lawyer you just spoke to. made a really good point. looking at the transcript of what happened. >> today in court. >> that was astonishing. you had a doj lawyer essentially apologizing. >> to the court, and. the court

said. >> well, why didn't your. >> client, meaning the federal. >> government, why didn't. >> they make some effort to to go get him? who's in charge of this? and the doj lawyer? >> i sort of feel bad for him. >> but his response was, i don't know. >> and they won't tell me. you can't go in there as a doj lawyer and just play. >> helpless and play clueless. that is. >> not what this is about. so i want to see what happens. i don't think they're going to bring him back by midnight on monday. and then i want to see what this judge does. >> good lord. well, i do want to get your take on this other major legal news tonight, and that is the supreme court allowing president trump to temporarily freeze millions of dollars in grants to states. and these are states that are facing teacher shortages right now. administration's first win at the high court. what struck you about this decision? and does it reveal something about how this court will address other executive power cases, which are involved in a lot of these challenges to these ios? >> it does. so this was a 5 to 4 decision, a win temporary win, but a win for the trump administration. it was five conservatives on one side three liberals plus chief justice roberts on the other side. so what this was there's a lot of freezing and unfreezing here. right. so this the trump administration comes in and freezes this money $65 million or so in teacher training. then

the district court basically says no, it's unfrozen. that money can go out. and today the supreme court said no, it's refrozen. it has to stay. what's really important here is there's a debate back and forth in the supreme court about what's called the emergency docket. if you've noticed, these decisions are popping up every couple of days, the usual way supreme court cases happen. full briefing, full argument, very deliberate. but these cases are happening quick because we're talking about emergency situations and injunctions. and there was a debate on the court. the liberals said we shouldn't be intervening at this early stage, but the conservative majority said no, we will if appropriate. and that's important because here's what else is pending on the emergency docket. birthright citizenship, the same deportation case we just talked about, and the mass firings of probationary federal employees. so stay sharp, because for the next month, we're going to see those opinions. >> come down. but does this show that those opinions will likely go one way or the other based on this, or is this too narrow? >> i don't yeah, i don't think this means trump is going to win all of them, but i think it shows me that there are enough

justices who are willing to rule on these emergency bases that they're not going to punt. they're not going to play hands off that. i do think they're going to be taking and ruling on these monumental issues. this is going to be this month or so. six weeks ahead is going to be one of the most important stretches we've had in a long time in the supreme court. >> that's well, that's almost an evergreen statement these days. yeah. >> a whole lot of new ground here. >> jim elie honig, thanks so much. coming up, former president obama's new message to universities and to high profile law firms targeted aggressively by president trump. >> that's not enough just to say you're. >> for something. >> you may actually have to do something and possibly sacrifice a little bit. >> at the ups store, we offer a live because running a small business takes a lot. that's why we're the help protect your privacy store and the give your business a real street address store. so while you're juggling

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profile law firms not to back down, but to stand up to donald trump's ongoing intense pressure campaign. >> this is the first time i've been speaking publicly for a while. i've been watching a little bit. it is up to all of. >> us. >> to fix this. it's not going to be. it's not going to be because somebody comes and saves you. i do think one of the reasons. that. our, our commitment to, to democratic ideals as eroded is that we got pretty comfortable and complacent. now we're at one of those moments where, you know what? it's it's not enough just to say you're for something. you may actually have to do something and possibly

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>> i think it is deliberate, and i think part of the reason it's deliberate is because the former president is seeing that there is no real leader right now in his democratic party, and it has caused sort of a crisis for the democratic party, where you have all of these things that the current president is doing, and then you have lawmakers and really, the party as a whole who can't really figure out exactly what to do to push back on those efforts. and they're sort of floundering. and you're seeing how that has emboldened this current presidency. and so i think the former president feels like he has to step up and sort of say something to try to get democrats on board and revved up and doing something. >> i mean, there's been a lot of criticism, right, from democrats of current democratic leadership and their failure. i mean, think of the the storm of criticism against chuck schumer after folding on on the budget vote. is there any progress, right? or

movement or change into changing those leadership positions to get more aggressive democratic voices out there? >> i mean, the question i keep hearing from democrats, whether it's operatives or voters, who is the leader of the democratic party? i mean, it shouldn't take obama coming out right now to talk, to get democrats up and out of their seats. there's so much that's happened. just think about the last two weeks that in the past would have been absolute gifts to democrats. think about what happened with signal. think about how republicans have said every other sentence on cable. but her emails. but her emails. there is no unified songbook from which the democrats are singing right now. and there's a lot of concern. i'm hearing a lot of concern from people, but no concerted effort to actually rally people and figure out how do you get cohesive and how do you get a message across that everyone is is out there saying, because there is opportunity for democrats right now, but what

i'm hearing and what i'm seeing, frankly, is that no one's really out there taking it. >> and there going to be elections coming up right where it's going to be tested. you know, those messages are going to be tested. the leadership zolan in separate remarks yesterday, kamala harris, she spoke about trump's moves in office and said they were all too predictable. have a listen. >> we are. >> seeing organizations. >> stay. >> quiet. >> we are seeing those who are. >> capitulating. >> to clearly. >> unconstitutional threats. >> and these. >> are the. >> things that we are witnessing. >> each day in these. last few months. >> in our country. >> and it. >> understandably creates a great sense of fear. because, you know, there were many things that we knew would happen. many

things. >> i'm not here. >> to say. i told you. >> so. >> i mean, she's right. i mean, she's not wrong. and she did speak a lot on the campaign trail about project 2025 and the exact kinds of steps and strategies that we're seeing play out here. what's the been the reception to her, to her message? >> well, i think is interesting about the vice president's message. and president obama's is i don't think the message was just to the democratic party. you saw them both also direct this message towards the private sector, to organizations, to law firms as well. president trump has been trying to put his maga stamp, not just on congress, not just on the federal government, but he's also you've seen capitulation and placating amongst private law firms that have been threatened. you've seen him also try to dictate the hiring practices of companies.

and of course, you've seen the threats to revoke funding from schools. it's all aspects of society with little resistance. and here you see these leaders trying to rally for some of that resistance. >> no question. well, listen a long way to go here. thanks so much for joining. we appreciate it. and hope you have a good weekend. well we have another story that we have been following here that you should be keeping your eyes open for. and that is the cdc layoffs. coming up and coming up. and fareed zakaria has a special. layoffs. some the trump administration and the department of government efficiencies, dramatic cuts to the federal workforce. and his new documentary special, fareed zakaria, takes us through the conservative movement's long running war on government. have a listen. >> as he took the oath of office in 1981. i, ronald reagan.

>> do solemnly swear. >> ronald reagan began his big crusade against government. >> so help me god. >> i congratulate you, sir. >> he believed in ever growing federal bureaucracy, was stifling the american people. >> thank you. >> culminating in the malaise of the carter years. >> in this present crisis. government is not the solution to our problem. government is the problem. >> reagan's solution, the most radical attempt to downsize government since the new deal. >> ronald reagan, his supporters hope the. >> new fdr. >> of the. >> right. >> he would not waste any time before he even left the capitol. reagan signed an executive order to freeze all hiring in the federal government. conservatives hopes were sky high. but in the end, the reagan revolution would fall far short.

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at the nation's top health agency have left the city of milwaukee on its own tonight, as it grapples with a lead crisis in city schools. for months now, officials there have been working with a division of the cdc to screen students and identify potentially dozens of schools that may have exposed young people to lead. the crisis began when a child was found to have elevated levels of lead in their blood. investigators zeroed in on lead paint in that child's school. seven schools were eventually found to have unsafe lead levels, which is toxic to the brain. even small levels of exposure can lower a child's iq. for school district of 68,000 students, the federal help has been critical. but on tuesday, the cdc cut some 2500 workers. entire divisions and programs gone disappeared, including the lead poisoning prevention team helping out in milwaukee. here's how hhs secretary robert f. kennedy jr. responded yesterday when asked

about this. >> the cdc program that monitors lead. >> surveillance for. >> kids was cut. >> can you. >> explain the rationale for. >> cutting a program. >> like that and. >> why that's. >> not an essential service? >> there were some programs that were cuts that are being reinstated. i believe that that's what personnel that should not have been cut were cut or reinstating them. and that was always the plan. >> my source tonight is the mayor of milwaukee, cavalier johnson. mayor, thank you so much for taking time tonight. >> nice to be with you, jim. >> so you got 68,000 students, 100 schools built before 1978, when it was still legal to actually use lead paint. can you can you first help us understand why federal help is essential here to to tackling this crisis and to protecting these children? >> yes, absolutely. >> it's critically important that. >> we have. >> assistance from. >> the federal government, the health department and the city

of milwaukee receives a. >> considerable amount of its. >> funding from federal sources. we rely on federal partnerships, especially when there are. >> complicated situations. >> such as. >> the one. >> that we're facing in. >> milwaukee public schools. >> with the lead hazards. >> that are affecting. >> kids right now. >> and it's unfortunate. >> really, to hear the secretary of the department of health and human services say that these were. >> you know, just. simply cuts and folks were to be. >> reinstated. >> this gym is unfortunate. >> what happens on the ground when the trump. >> administration takes. >> a chainsaw to government as opposed to taking a scalpel? kids end up suffering the consequences, like the ones that are suffering in milwaukee and wisconsin tonight. >> what does that show you about how these cuts are being made? it seems like they made the cut, didn't realize what the effects were, and like, oh, i guess i guess we'll correct that one. you know, it's remarkable to hear that description coming from the hhs secretary. >> it's quite remarkable. and, you know, it just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. i would imagine, you know, when a new

administration comes in, certainly they want to make changes. all of us do. i understand that i'm a chief elected official here in the city of milwaukee, the top ranking elected official in my city. but you don't come in and just simply lob off entire departments. or significant portion departments without using a scalpel. in order to do that, because the consequences could be dire. and that's exactly what we're seeing on the ground in milwaukee. when the department tries to contact our partners at the federal government that we need to work with in order to solve situations like this, it's. it's unspeakable. >> the science here, the effects of lead paint are just debilitating. i mean, there's been so much experience, so much, so much study of this in other schools around the country. do you have any idea now of exactly how many children would have been exposed and potentially affected by this? >> well, there are a